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Re: Jeffrey - Mexico -> MBONO 30y look interesting [C]

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Tazia Smith Jan 12, 2014 4:38 PM
To
Jeffrey Epstein

Jeffrey:

Please find the chart of PDVSA 5% 10128/15 price history below, as well as a description of the USDJPY 10yr trade that we briefly discussed on Friday. Speak with you soon, Tazia

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Jeffrey Epstein [jee‘S@gmail.com] Jan 12, 2014 4:56 PM
To
Tazia Smith

do you think money good in 15

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Tazia Smith Jan 12, 2014 10:52 PM
To
jeffrey Epstein
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Vinit SahniNav Gupta

Looping in Vinit here as he was recently involved with a large offering in the pdvsa credit and may have some take-aways.

My view is the bonds are money good in 2015, as of now, but you are not looking for yield carry (as discussed), and the risks of restructuring and near-term downside due to politics specific to venezuela and chatter around EM assets at large are likely greater than implied by the bonds' current —85 levels; would use Friday's rally to sell (particularly if you believe it was rates driven vs credit). For what it's worth, we've found Latam family offices that are very familiar the credit (and do like carry) are fully loaded and do not have incremental demand.

Tazia Smith
Director
Key Client Partners - US

Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.
Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management
345 Park Avenue - 26th Floor
New Y rk NY 10154
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Vinit Sahni Jan 13, 2014 7:47 AM
To
Jeffrey Epstein

This attached image shows the current pricing on the curve, which is slightly weaker than it was in early December. I have also added the term structure of PDVSA and VENZ sovereign bonds, which gives us some relative value across the curve

Bouts of volatility will likely remain an issue and therefore it will trade like a short tail risk trade. However, given that access to dollars remains key for Venezuela, we should expect the government to do whatever they can to avoid a problem servicing these bonds (or even the perception of the same). They do have a heavy amortization schedule in 2014 and 2015.

Vinit Sahni Managing Director | Global Head - Professional Client Group & Key Client Partners Capital Markets Group

Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management
105/108 Old Broad St/Pinners Hall), EC2N 1EN London, United Kingdom
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Jeffrey Epstein Jan 13, 2014 11:50 AM
To
Vinit SahniPaul MorrisTazia SmithVahe Stepanian
Cc
Nav Gupta

thanks , lets keep

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Vinit Sahni Jan 14, 2014 4:23 AM
To
Jeffrey Epstein

Jeffrey - was looking for value in the EM space, post the PDVSA analysis, started looking at Mexico...

here is a trade I think makes sense -> buying MBONO 30y unhedged

At around 7.5% yield, inflation probably in the 3-4% in the foreseeable future, and USD/MXN likely stable or stronger in real (deflated) terms, I think it is good value. The curve is steep. If you look at 10Y10Y UST and 10Y10Y MXN yields, the spread is above 500bp . Say inflation differential is 100bp higher in Mex and credit diff is 100bp (10Y CDS is about 100bp higher in Mexico although Mex has much better debt dyn), this still leaves about 300bp of cushion for real depreciation per year...ln sum, it seems good value

near term mark to market risk is slower pace of implementation of energy reform and a selloff in USTs

happy to discuss further if u find interesting...

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Vinit Sahni Jan 14, 2014 6:41 AM
To
Jeffrey Epstein

Jeffrey - sorry, to clarify is it 3m USD worth of MXN bonds or 3m MXN, as its a local currency bond.

As soon as NY gets in will get a price on the MBONO 7.75% 11/13/2042 and ping u

as and when our view on rates or the currency changes will keep u updated, as here u have risk on both components unlike the PDVSA where the bond was denominated in USDs.

Best
Vinit

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Vinit Sahni Managing Director I Global Head - Professional Client Group 8 Key Client Partners Capital Markets Group

Deutsche Asset 8 Wealth Management 1051108 Old Broad St (Pinners Hall). EC2N 1EN London. United Kingdom

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Any proposed ideas are being delivered to you by the DeAWM Key Client Partners ('KCP") London desk for discussion purposes only, and do not create any legally binding obligation on the part of Deutsche Bank AG and / or its affiliates ("DE'). These ideas are for the consideration of the intended recipients of this mail only. The KCP London desk does not provide investment advice. All intended recipients are Professional investors (as defined by MiFID). who understand the strategy. characteristics and risks associated with any ideas proposed herein and will be able to evaluate it independently. All trades on proposed ideas shall be subject to the relevant internal approvals prior to execution.

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Vinit Sahni Jan 14, 2014 7:00 AM
To
Jeffrey Epstein

got it

back to u as soon as NY opens up

Vinit Sahni

Managing Director I Global Head - Professional Client Group 8 Key Client Partners Capital Markets Group

Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management
105/108 Old Broad St (Pinners Hall),
EC2N 1EN London United Kingdom
Tel.
Mobi
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Any proposed ideas are being delivered to you by the DeAWM Key Client Partners ("KCP') London desk for discussion purposes only. and do not create any legally binding obligation on the part of Deutsche Bank AG and / or its affiliates ("Dr). These ideas are for the consideration of the intended recipients of this mail only. The KCP London desk does not provide investment advice. All intended recipients are Professional investors (as defined by MiFID). who understand the strategy.

characteristics and risks associated with any ideas proposed herein and will be able to evaluate it independently. All trades on proposed ideas shall be subject to the relevant internal approvals prior to execution.

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Vinit Sahni Jan 14, 2014 7:57 AM
To
Jeffrey Epstein

as its local currency all the liquidity is in NY hours so it won't hurt. As soon as they get some liquidity will shoot it across.

Vinit Sahni Managing Director I Global Head - Professional Client Group 8 Key Client Partners Capital Markets Group

Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management 105/108 Old Broad St (Pinners Hall), EC2N 1EN London, United Kingdom

Tel. +
Mobil
Email

Any proposed ideas are being delivered to you by the DeAWM Key Client Partners ("KCP") London desk for discussion purposes only, and do not create any legally binding obligation on the part of Deutsche Bank AG and / or its affiliates ("DB-"). These ideas are for the consideration of the intended recipients of this mail only. The KCP London desk does not provide investment advice. All intended recipients are Professional investors (as defined by MiFID). who understand the strategy. characteristics and risks associated with any ideas proposed herein and will be able to evaluate it independently. All trades on proposed ideas shall be subject to the

relevant internal approvals prior to execution.

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Vinit Sahni Jan 14, 2014 8:15 AM
To
Jeffrey Epstein
Cc
Raphael ZaguryVahe Stepanian

Jeffrey - trying to wake people up in Mexico now. its 7am so sending some coffee across to Mexico...we are on it as soon as we get prices the NY crew will reach out to u.

Vinit Sahni
Managing Director | Global Head - Professional Client Group & Key Client Partners Capital Markets Group

Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management
105/108 Old Broad St (Pinners Hall),
EC2N-4EN United Kingdom
Tel. -
Mobile +447920-136521
Email

Any proposed ideas are being delivered to you by the DeAWM Key Client Partners ("KCP") London desk for discussion purposes only. and do not create any legally binding obligation on the part of Deutsche Bank AG and / or its affiliates ("Dr). These ideas are for the consideration of the intended recipients of this mail only. The KCP London desk does not provide investment advice. All intended recipients are Professional investors (as defined by MiFID). who understand the strategy. characteristics and risks associated with any ideas proposed herein and will be able to evaluate it independently. All trades on proposed ideas shall be subject to the

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relevant internal approvals prior to execution.
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Jeffrey Epstein Jan 14, 2014 10:18 AM
To
Vinit Sahrii

agreed lets do 3m

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Jeffrey Epstein Jan 14, 2014 10:55 AM
To
Vinit Sahni

usd 3m bonds

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Jeffrey Epstein Jan 14, 2014 11:39 AM
To
Vinit SahniPaul MorrisTazia Smith

can we set up an account based in london , so i do not have to wait for ny to open?

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Jeffrey Epstein Jan 14, 2014 12:01 PM
To
Vinit Sahni

it was a more general question

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Raphael Zagury Jan 14, 2014 1:35 PM
To
Vinit Sahni
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Jeffrey EpsteinVahe Stepanian

Jeffrey-

We just tried calling you. We have an indication on the MBONO's at 7.50% yield for 3MM USD but they move around a bit. Let us know your thoughts and if you'd like us to work an order.

You can call either Vahe or myself here in NY.

Thanks,

Raphael

Raphael Zagury, CFA

Managing Director
Head of Key Client Partners Latin America

Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.
Deutsche Asset & Wealth Management
345 Park Avenue, 26th Floor
New York, NY 10154
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