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BTW to ease your potential re-reading, here is a re-send of the proposal Joscha and I made for you last year ;)

--ben

> >	On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:01 AM, jeffrey E. leevacation@gmail.com> wrote: yes IU would like to be put in touch, yes i will re read . gino is still an unlknown
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>	On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ben Goertzel <a wrote: >>
»	Hi Jeffrey,
	>>
	>> Good to hear from you!
	>>>
»	>> BTW -- We have not yet been able to install our software on your >> Virgin Islands server as requested, because the sys-admin there, >> Jermaine, has not yet opened a port in the router there to let us >> access the machine remotely. I wonder if he doesn't know how to do >> that? (but it's a very basic thing...).... Anyhow we have emailed and asked him to do this several times... >>
	>> I like the idea of a machine that can ask questions...! Actually the >> logic of questions is dual to the logic of answers, see >>
	>> http://www.gatsby.ucl.ac.uk/aistats/fullpapersl246.pdf >>
	>> Making OpenCog ask questions to fill in gaps in its knowledge is one >> of our current priorities, in fact.... >>
»	>> I'm glad to hear you have decided to fund Joscha for another year. He >> is really enjoying his time in Boston and getting a lot out of the >> various contacts he's making there. I wonder if you'd like to >> reconsider funding the proposal Joscha and I sent you some months ago, >> for work on intelligent/simply-conscious virtual animals? Or did >> that happen not to float your boat? We have discussed many other >> possibilities for collaboration, e.g. application of OpenCog +MicroPsi >> to mathematical theorem-proving (via grounding mathematics in embodied >> experience, along the lines that Lakoff and Nunez discussed in "Where Mathematics Comes From") >>
	>> Gino Yu told me he met you recently. He's a fun guy who helped me >> get started here in Hong Kong. His wife's family is very wealthy and >> influential here (though his wife, while head of the Hong Kong Chamber >> of Commerce, got busted for insider trading and spent 1.5 years in

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jail here... really a bummer for Gino's kids... but anyway she's been
out a while now and is back in business...)

...

As for Rupert Sheldrake, yes I know him.... He's not a super-close
friend but I visited his house in London in 2012, and have emailed
with him a few times since then. Also he had a paper in a book on psi
that I co-edited last year, see

[REDACTED]

or see

http://goertzel.org/Evidence_for_Psi_PREPRINT.pdf

for a free digital copy ... the password is

dataWillPrevail

...

Rupert has found various private funders for his experiments in the
past, but I'm sure he would be happy to have more funding for more
experiments.

If you're in an especially open-minded mood, you might enjoy my
speculative thoughts on a potential physics foundation for Rupert's
morphic field idea, see

http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.hk/2014/09/morphic-fields-memory-psi-unified.html

Shall I put you in touch with Rupert by email?

I would be interested to try to figure out an experiment that would
probe the quantitative nature and "laws" of putative morphic fields
more precisely. I think his idea is deep and fascinating, yet too
slippery for my taste.... His email and telephone telepathy
experiments are fascinating and I think could be developed to give
further information. For instance, he finds that this sort of
telepathy typically takes places between members of groups who share
social or emotional bonds. So, I wonder if this could be quantified.
If we measure social and emotional bonds using psychosocial survey
instruments, can we then use this information to probabilistically
predict the degree of email or telephone telepathy? This could tell
us something about the information-theoretic nature of the patterns
that "morphic fields" (whatever they really are) pay attention to....

Of course, he may have even better ideas for new experiments....

Yours,
Ben

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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:47 AM, jeffrey E. leevacation@gmail.com> wrote: >> > hi, I have begun funding some Al to the minus one.. answers are not as >> > interesting as great questions. i want a machine that can ask >» quesitons.? >> > In my scouting I saw you supported rupert sheldrakes right to speak. >» have >> > you met him. Id like to fund something . if controls adequate » > » > -- >» please note >> > The information contained in this communication is >> > confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may >> > constitute inside information, and is intended only for >» the use of the addressee. It is the property of >» JEE >> > Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this >> > communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited >> > and may be unlawful. If you have received this >> > communication in error, please notify us immediately by >> > return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and >> > destroy this communication and all copies thereof, >> > including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved >> >> » -- » Ben Goertzel, PhD » http://goertzel.org >> >> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one >> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all >> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw > -- > please note > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may > constitute inside information, and is intended only for > the use of the addressee. It is the property of > JEE > Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this > communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited > and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by

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