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A trustee means there is a trust that has been approved by a court and that the court has appointed a trustee. That doesn't apply here. I cannot bind the girls to a trust. If a guardian is appointed, the girls elect to use him as their attorney and they all agree that a trust is in their best interests, that is their decision, not mine. I would not be making the motion for appointment of the guardian under 17 (c) anyway.
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Hi Jay- Here are the revisions that I agree with and those I don't. We have been over paragraph 6 an infinite number of times. It is factually accurate that the list we are going to give you are persons we have identified as victims. If we did not think they were victims, they would have no right to bring suit, regardless of whether your client is willing to waive liability or not. I have not balked about giving your client yet another month to self-surrender, so please let us just put this to rest. I changed the amount of time for the US to notify you of breach to take into account the fact that this agreement will not be completed within 30 months of execution (because of the lengthy delay before self-surrender) and to give us a 6 month window in case we discover a violation after Mr. Epstein is released.
I do not care if you want to call the appointed person a "representative" instead of a guardian, so long as he/she is: (1) a lawyer; (2) independent (3) selected by our Office or a federal judge; and (4) paid for by your client or by the federal court.
I have sent this to Alex for his review. I have asked him to call me either late tonight or early tomorrow morning. When I get his comments, I will get back to you, probably tomorrow.
Thank you.
<<070923 Epstein Non-Prosecution Agreement final v2.pdf>>
11:30 is fine. I am waiting for final edits from Alex. Can you send me all of the state agreements? My fax number is below or you can e-mail. Thanks.
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Hi Jay - Sorry for the delay. The U.S. Attorney had a last-minute concern, that I think I fixed (it is in the first "It Appearing" clause following the list of statutes potentially violated).
After you get the green light, let's discuss the potential representative. The person I am thinking of has run a preliminary conflicts check and it looks alright.
Also, to address Mr. Epstein's concern regarding the list of names, I wanted to tell you that I have compiled a list of 34 confirmed minors. There are six others, whose names we already have, who need to be interviewed by the FBI to confirm whether they were 17 or 18 at the time of their activity with Mr. Epstein. Once those interviews are completed, I can finalize the list of identified victims, which I will put in a formal document that I will maintain until the time of Mr. Epstein's sentencing.
Assuming that this agreement is fine, please execute at least three copies, and send one to me by fax and the rest by FedEx. I will execute and send the copies back.
Thank you.
Assistant U.S. Attorney
500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
Phone: [REDACTED]
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Document: 070924 Final Epstein Non-Prosecution Agreement.pdf
Thank you, Jay, I have forwarded your message only to Alex, Andy, and I don't anticipate it going any further than that. When I receive the originals, I will sign and return one copy to you. The other will be placed in the case file, which will be kept confidential since it also contains identifying information about the girls.
When we reach an agreement about the attorney representative for the girls, we can discuss what I can tell him and the girls about the agreement. I know that Andy promised Chief [REDACTED] an update when a resolution was achieved. (Something I wouldn't have promised in light of what happened last year.) [REDACTED] is calling, but [REDACTED] knows not to tell Chief [REDACTED] about the money issue, just about what crimes Mr. Epstein is pleading guilty to and the amount of time that has been agreed to. [REDACTED] also is telling Chief [REDACTED] not to disclose the outcome to anyone.
Hi Jay-Have you approved Mr. Ocariz as the girls' representative? And can we have a conference call to discuss what I may disclose to him and to the girls regarding the agreement?
Thank you.
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500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
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Hi Jay-These four people were recommended. I have not contacted them to find out what their rates are. All are very active in the plaintiffs' bar in the West Palm area. Ted Babbitt would be my first choice of these four but I think he is conflicted out because one of his partners is married to an AUSA here. Stuart Grossman is probably my second choice.
Ted Babbitt -- http://www.babbitt-johnson.com/tbabbitt.html
Stuart Grossman -- http://www.grossmanandroth.com/sgrossman.htm
Chris Searcy -- http://www.searcylaw.com/CHRISTIANDSEARCY/tabid/935/default.aspx
Lake Lytal, Jr. -- http://www.lytalreiter.com/index.php?page_id=37
Talk to Jack Goldberger about this group. They are all very good personal injury lawyers, but I have concerns about whether there would be an inherent tension because they may feel that THEY might make more money (and get a lot more press coverage) if they proceed outside the terms of the plea agreement. (Sorry -1 just have a bias against plaintiffs' attorneys.) One nice thing about Bert is that he is in Miami where there has been almost no coverage of this case.
Just so you know, I have never met Bert, but a good friend in our appellate section and one of the district judges in Miami are good friends with him and recommended him.
Can you let me know tomorrow? I am going to be out for a while starting on Friday, and I would like to get this underway before I leave.
Thank you.
Hi Jay-Can you give me a call at this morning? I am meeting with the agents and want to give them their marching orders regarding what they can tell the girls.
Also, please remove Babbitt and Searcy from the list. There is too great a chance of an appearance of impropriety with Babbitt and I received a bad report about Searcy last night.
Thank you.
Hi Jay-Did you send me the original signed agreement? I would like to sign that copy and return copies to you. Thank you.
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500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
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Hi Jay - Meaning no disrespect to these distinguished gentlemen, one of my criteria is that, if negotiations with you don't work out, they have the stamina to take you all to trial, so I politely decline your suggestion.
Hi Jay — Did you send me the original signed agreement? I would like to sign that copy and return copies to you. Thank you.
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500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
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Hi Jay - Bert's firm has raised a number of good questions about how they are going to get paid and setting up a procedure that avoids any conflict of interest with their clients. Are you around today to do a conference call? Let me know what times work for you because Bert wants to get their conflicts counsel on the call with us.
These are some of the questions he sent to me. I told Bert that as part of our agreement we (the federal government) are not going to indict Mr. Epstein, but gave him an idea of the charges that we had planned to bring as related to 18 USC 2255. With respect to question 2, do I have your permission to send Bert just that section of the plea agreement that applies to the damages claims (I would recommend sending paragraphs 7 through 10, or at least 7 and 8)? Can you talk with your client about items 3 and 4? I envisioned Shook Hardy sending regular bills to you, with any privileged information redacted, and being paid like every other client pays the bills.
Can we get a copy of the indictment (or can you tell me the nature of the crimes against the girls)?
When will it be possible to see the plea agreement so that we understand exactly what Epstein concedes to in the civil case?
Is there any cap or other limitation on attorney's fees that the defendant will pay in the civil case?
What is the contemplated procedure for, and timing of, the payment of attorney's fees and costs?
Assistant U.S. Attorney
500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
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Fax
Thanks, Jay. Can we make it 4:15 or later? I have a 3:30 that might run more than a half hour. And let me know about sending Bert the agreement language. That might aid our discussions because the firm will have a better idea of what the litigation will entail.
Assistant U.S. Attorney
500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
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Hi Jay - I already told Bert that there is no indictment and, as I mentioned, he doesn't really need to/want to see the entire plea agreement, just the relevant paragraphs so that he understands what the scope of his representation will be. I think they would be happy knowing that their hourly rate will be paid when it is billed. The concern is, if all 40 girls decide they want to sue, they don't want to be in a situation where Mr. Epstein says this is getting too expensive, we won't pay any more attorneys' fees.
Two suggestions, that I haven't run past Bert, are:
Mr. Epstein signs a standard fee agreement, where one of his attorneys or accountants who is not working on the damages litigation receives a monthly bill with attorney's fees charged at an hourly rate and costs billed monthly. The bills will have any privileged information redacted. If there is a dispute about a bill that cannot be resolved, it will be submitted to a mediator for resolution.
If that is too open-ended for Mr. Epstein, do the hourly/monthly billing until Bert has had a chance to confer with all of the girls to determine how many want him to represent them. Once it is known how many girls will be represented by Bert, and maybe who those girls are, there can be a more educated discussion about estimated fees and costs.
Just some food for thought. I will be out of the office tomorrow, but I will be reachable by cell phone. I will make sure Bert is available and confirm the time with you.
Assistant U.S. Attorney
500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
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Hi Jay – Can you give me a quick ring. Thanks.
Assistant U.S. Attorney
500 S. Australian Ave, Suite 400
West Palm Beach, FL 33401
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Fax
Hi Jay I haven't been able to access my e-mail until now. I am free until 10:00, then at 1:00, then at 5:00. Would any of those work for you?
Hi Jay This afternoon is fine. Here is the memo that I put together. Just let me know where I should call you at 4:00. Thanks.
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