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1 IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN
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4 Q -- say nothing but the truth so help you God?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q All right. So tell me from the beginning as far
7 as when you met Mr. Epstein.
8 A As soon as (inaudible) house. I'm like what are
9 you guys talking about? And I hadn't really hung out with
10 them. I was kind of the (inaudible) and they were telling
11 me about this guy and they would go and give him massages
12 and he'd pay them $200 for giving a massage an hour. And
13 they said do you want to do it and I'm like yeah, $200 for
14 an hour, let's go. So I think about a week later I had gone
15 with (inaudible) and it was me and her and we were with him
16 and it was kind of weird because he's naked but she's like
17 oh, he's always like that, don't worry about it. And then
18 we just gave him a massage and he gave her $200 and he gave
19 me $300 and he asked me to come back. So I'm like okay. I
20 came back about probably five or six times.
21 Q Okay. He gave you 300 to do a massage, right?
22 A Uh-huh.
23 Q Okay. And that was about a year ago?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. You were approached about this by Faith and
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2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Okay. (Inaudible), what's her last name?
4 A Valdez or Vas -- I don't know. It starts with a
5 V.
6 Q Okay. All right. Let's start back from the
7 beginning on the massage. He was naked on the massage?
8 A Yes, with a towel over him.
9 Q Okay. How were you dressed when you were
10 providing the massage?
11 A I think jeans and a tank top.
12 Q Jeans and a tank top. At any time did he ask you
13 to remove your clothing?
14 A He did probably about the second time that I went
15 there and I gave him a massage in my underwear.
16 Q Just in your underwear? Okay.
17 A That's why I stopped going because he said if you
18 start to feel comfortable just don't come for more.
19 Q Okay. When you were giving him the massage, where
20 did the massage take place?
21 A Like if you go upstairs into his bedroom like his
22 bathroom I guess like there's this big room with like a
23 sauna and a shower and in there.
24 Q Okay. Were there tables already set up?
25 A Sometimes they were already set up and then
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1 sometimes when we went up there there's like a little closet
2 and the table is in the closet and we'd bring it out and set
3 it up.
4 Q Did you set it up or --
5 A Yes.
6 Q -- did somebody else set it up for you?
7 A Sometimes it was already set up when we got there.
8 Q Okay.
9 A Sometimes I had to set it up.
10 Q Okay. How were you taken to the bedroom area?
11 A Usually Sarah would lead you up but after you were
12 there a couple times she'd say go on up.
13 Q Okay. And you went what, five or six times?
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Okay. All right. Let's get back to your first
16 massage you gave. He was wrapped in a towel.
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Okay. At any time did he take off the towel?
19 A Only when he got up and put a robe around him.
20 Q Okay. During the time you were providing him a
21 massage, did he ever touch himself?
22 A No. He was laying on his stomach.
23 Q Laying on his stomach the entire time?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay.
3 A But not the first time.
4 Q Not the first time. You just his massaged his --
5 A His legs and his feet the first time.
6 Q Okay.
7 A (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. So the first time Shazy (phonetic) and you
9 did the massage?
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Okay. All right. And you were completely
12 clothed?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. Did he touch you --
15 A No.
16 Q -- during the massage?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Was there any massagers slash vibrators
19 introduced into the massage?
20 A No. Just like he had like this massage cream from
21 Bath and Body Works. That's it. And I'd use that.
22 Q Okay. When the second time you went, how did you,
23 how were you contacted?
24 A Asked -- when he asked -- when he gave me $300 and
25 asked me to come back I had left him my cell phone number.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A And Sarah called me and told me that Jeff had
3 wanted me to come back and then I went down there.
4 Q Okay. Do you recall when this was?
5 A No. I know it started like this time last year
6 because I think about January is the last time I went when I
7 met my boyfriend and he didn't want me going down there.
8 Q So January of this year was the last time you
9 went?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Okay. All right. So she called you and tells you
12 to come --
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q -- tells you to come to the house to provide, to
15 work?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Did anything happen during that massage?
18 A No. The only thing he ever did was he tried to
19 grab my butt and I told him I didn't feel comfortable with
20 that and he always said that if you didn't feel comfortable
21 just to let him know.
22 Q Was that on the second massage?
23 A No. Probably about towards the end because
24 (inaudible) massage.
25 Q Okay.
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1 A That's when (inaudible) and then after that is
2 when I started feeling uncomfortable with it because he was
3 like why don't you take that off and I was like no. Just he
4 never said (inaudible) did anything. So he was trying to
5 talk me into it I didn't feel comfortable with it.
6 Q Okay. So you recall both -- the first two times?
7 A Uh-huh.
8 Q Did he touch himself during the second massage?
9 A I don't remember. He would sometimes.
10 Q What do you mean?
11 A Well not -- like towards the end when I was in my
12 underwear like sometimes when I would be rubbing his chest
13 then he would.
14 Q Okay. Did he do it on the second time you went?
15 A No.
16 Q Okay. The third time you went, how were you
17 contacted to go?
18 A Sarah called me again.
19 Q Sarah called you again?
20 Okay. When you got there he asked you to remove
21 your clothing?
22 A Yeah.
23 Q Okay. When you say panties, were they normal
24 panties or were they --
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1 Q A thong.
2 Okay. You provided the massage?
3 A Uh-huh.
4 Q And this was the first time he had you rub his
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6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. While you were rubbing his chest, did he
8 masturbate?
9 A Yes. But this is towards the end.
10 Q Okay. Towards the end of the massage?
11 A No, like towards like the last time I went there.
12 Q Okay.
13 A But yeah, it was towards the end of the massage
14 also. Would you like something to drink?
15 Q No, I'm good. I'm good.
16 A Okay. I've lost all my manners.
17 Q That's all right. Do you know if he climaxed?
18 A I don't know. He still had the towel over him.
19 Q He never removed the towel?
20 A No. Judging by the (inaudible) I think that he
21 did but I never asked if he did.
22 Q And do you know what I mean when I say
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24 A Yes.
25 Q -- and climax?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay. All right. So each time you went to the
3 house, at what point did he try to escalate to more than
4 just a massage?
5 A They would say it was a normal massage and he'd
6 like sit down and talk to you and stuff and then he'd be
7 like all right, well come here and do this and do that and
8 he's like if you told him no he wouldn't, you know, he
9 wouldn't make a big deal out of it. If you told him you
10 felt uncomfortable about anything then --
11 Q Okay. When did he grab your buttocks?
12 A I don't know. One of the times during a massage.
13 Q Okay. Did he ever grab more than just your
14 buttocks?
15 A No, because I made it clear when he did that that
16 I was very uncomfortable and I left.
17 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your breast?
18 A No.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your vagina area?
20 A No.
21 Q Okay. Did he ever bring out any kind of sexual
22 toys?
23 A No.
24 Q When was the last time you were contacted by
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1 A The last time I went there because I told him I
2 wasn't coming back.
3 Q Okay. So January 2005 approximately?
4 A Yes.
5 Q The very last time you went did he continue like
6 when you were giving him a massage masturbate?
7 A No, because I was giving him the massage and he
8 had a clock on the sink and I was looking at the clock and
9 he said why do you keep looking at the clock and I was like
10 I don't know and I was like because my boyfriend is waiting
11 to come pick me up and he's like well, he's like he said
12 you're supposed to make me enjoy my massage right now.
13 Could you please stop looking at the clock. And I was just
14 like well, and he's like if you don't want to do this then
15 you don't have to do this and that's when I told him I don't
16 want to come back anymore because I really don't feel
17 comfortable and, you know, my boyfriend doesn't like that
18 I'm coming here. And then that was it and I haven't spoken
19 to him since.
20 Q On top of the $300 did he ever offer you more
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22 A No. He gave me money for Christmas. He Western
23 Unioned I think it was $200 as a Christmas present but other
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25 Q Last Christmas?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Which Western Union did you pick that up at?
3 A The one in Royal Palm and Okeechobee. I think
4 it's The Check Cashing Store. There's a Western Union
5 there.
6 Q Okay. Did you ever take anybody to the house?
7 A No. (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. Was there anybody else in the room when you
9 were providing massage --
10 A No.
11 Q -- aside from Shazy?
12 A Aside from Shazy, no.
13 Q Okay. No other assistants?
14 A No.
15 Q Okay. Did he ever offer you monies to go
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17 A No.
18 Q -- than just a massage?
19 Okay. How old were you when you first went there?
20 A Seventeen.
21 Q Seventeen.
22 A And I was 17 the last time I went there too. I
23 turned 18 this past June.
24 Q When do you turn 18?
25 A June that just passed.
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1 Q June that just passed? Did Shazy ever tell you
2 that you would have to provide the massage naked or --
3 A No. They just told me that we were going to do a
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5 Q You were attending Royal Palm Beach High School --
6 A Yes.
7 Q -- okay, at the time?
8 A (Inaudible). I kind of dropped out right in the
9 middle.
10 Q Okay. Did you ever finish school?
11 A No. Actually tomorrow is my GED test.
12 Q Good luck with that.
13 A Thank you. I fell in love, moved to Jupiter, it's
14 going to last forever, blah, blah, blah.
15 Q This is the guy that didn't want you going back
16 anymore?
17 A Yeah. Yeah.
18 Q You guys aren't together anymore?
19 A It's off and on. We were together off and on for
20 nine years so...
21 Q I guess the best thing he did was have you stop
22 going.
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Is there anything else you would like to add?
25 A No. I actually have some questions as to what's
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1 going on with this.
2 Q Well, this is an ongoing investigation. We
3 received a complaint and we're following it up. Obviously
4 based on the questions that I've asked you, you can pretty
5 much figure out what this is --
6 A He's definitely in custody?
7 Q Not at this time. But this is an ongoing
8 investigation so I would appreciate that if anybody contacts
9 you, I know that friends have been calling each other and
10 telling them oh my God, there's a cop here, whatever, asking
11 me questions.
12 A Yeah, this is Royal Palm. That's big news in this
13 little town.
14 Q Well, I would appreciate it if you didn't, you
15 know, say anything what we discussed. Especially if Faith
16 calls you or anybody else calls you, you could say that I
17 was here and if they have any questions they can give me a
18 call. Obviously if anybody from the Jeffrey's house calls
19 you I'd also appreciate it if you call back and let me know.
20 A Okay.
21 Q All right?
22 A All right.
23 MALE SPEAKER: At this time I'm going to go
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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4 Q 2005. This is (inaudible) number 7915. I'm
5 Detective (inaudible) Kerry (phonetic). Present with me is
6 Detective Sandman. We are taking a statement from Serina
7 Figueroa. Can you spell your last name for me?
8 A F-I-G-U-E-R-O-A.
9 Q Okay. Serina, I just explained to you that my
10 purpose of speaking with you is that of a witness.
11 Basically in your own words I'd like for you to tell me how
12 you came in contact with this gentleman named Jeff. But
13 before we do anything, raise your right hand for me. Do you
14 solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
15 nothing but the truth so help you God?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Okay. Just start from the beginning just so I
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19 A Okay. Well Haley and me, we were really good
20 friends and we were just hanging out one day and she was
21 like hey, you know, I met this guy and I was wondering if
22 you wanted to make some money. And I was like well, for
23 what? Because I didn't know. She's like well, all you have
24 to do is like massage him for like 200 bucks and I was like
25 what? I was like no. All the time, they would ask me all
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1 the time and I never would. But finally she's like all
2 right, will you go over there with me and I was like all
3 right, I'll go. House on Palm Beach Island, why the hell
4 not. I didn't see anything wrong with it.
5 So I went and I sat in the kitchen. I talked to
6 this cook. I wanted to go like upstairs with her but since
7 I wasn't working I was not allowed to go anywhere out of
8 that kitchen. I wasn't allowed to walk around. I wasn't
9 allowed upstairs. Wasn't allowed.
10 Q When did this first happen?
11 A I would say like last year sometime. Like maybe
12 around --
13 Q About a year ago?
14 A About a year ago.
15 Q Okay. All right. And you went and you sat in the
16 kitchen?
17 A Yep.
18 Q So you met with the cook?
19 A Yes. Young guy.
20 Q What's his name? Do you remember?
21 A I do not remember.
22 Q Okay. How many times do you think you've been to
23 that house?
24 A I'd say about four or five.
25 Q Four or five times?
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1 A Uh-huh.
2 Q Now when you went there, obviously you didn't go
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4 A Right.
5 Q -- as they call it. Who did the work the time
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7 A The girls. I went with Haley, I went with Jen.
8 Q Jen as in --
9 A Jen Siciliano.
10 Q Okay.
11 A And this girl Joanna Harrison.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I never went with anyone else.
14 Q You didn't go with anybody else?
15 A No.
16 Q When you went with Haley, did Haley do the work?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Okay. Do you recall a person by the name of Sage
19 (phonetic)?
20 A Yeah.
21 Q Okay. You went with Sage?
22 A I didn't go with her. I was there the day Haley
23 brought her.
24 Q Okay.
25 A Me and Haley both sat in the kitchen that day.
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1 Q Okay. So Sage is the one that worked?
2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Each girl that you went with, Jennifer,
4 Joanna, Sage, they're the ones that did the work?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q And Haley sat in the kitchen?
7 A That one day.
8 Q And do you recall any conversations in the car
9 with either Jennifer, Joanna or Sage that Haley may have had
10 with them as far as what to expect?
11 A I think I remember Haley telling Sage that if he
12 tells you hey, you know what I mean, if you want to do
13 anything else you're still free to say no, you know what I
14 mean? He will -- something to the extent we're like hey, if
15 he's like will you do this feel free to say no and he'll be
16 okay with it pretty much.
17 Q Okay. And what you mean by he wants to do this,
18 it's more than a massage?
19 A Right.
20 Q Okay. What do you know of that goes on up in the
21 massaging or --
22 A Nobody ever wanted to tell me anything. Just that
23 they were giving massages and that was it. I didn't even
24 want to really know too much.
25 Q Okay. Obviously this was like a little clique,
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3 A Yeah.
4 Q -- based on what I found out.
5 A Right.
6 Q Did Haley ever receive money for taking people?
7 A Yes, she did. Every time she brought a girl she
8 made an automatic $200.
9 Q $200.
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Who paid her?
12 A I believe it was Jeff.
13 Q Jeff pays her? Did you ever make any money for
14 going with her?
15 A Never one. I never even really talked to him.
16 Like he came down twice I think just to say hello and that
17 was pretty much it. He shook my hand and that was it.
18 Q Okay. Who else that you know of might have come
19 to the house?
20 A I know a lot of girls that went there. Sage,
21 Lauren, Lauren Murphy, Vanessa (inaudible). I'm trying to
22 think. Nicole (inaudible).
23 Q Okay.
24 A I can't remember anybody else.
25 Q And did Haley take these people as well?
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1 A Yeah. I'm pretty sure.
2 Q Okay.
3 A She's the one that told us all about it.
4 Q How do you think Haley met him?
5 A I have no idea.
6 Q No?
7 A I think I asked her once but I don't know. Me and
8 Haley don't talk anymore. We haven't talked for a while.
9 No idea.
10 Q Okay. During the drive, was there anybody out of
11 the three that you recall Jennifer, Joanna, Sage, aside from
12 what was said, did she say if you do this, you get this, if
13 you do that, you get this, the more you do, the more you get
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15 A No. She never said anything like that. She just
16 said that you get 200 bucks for like a massage. That was
17 pretty much it. Nothing else. She never said anything like
18 sexual.
19 Q Okay.
20 A I had a feeling she was lying about her age and --
21 Q Who?
22 A Sage.
23 Q Sage was?
24 A Uh-huh.
25 Q Do you know her last name?
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1 A I have no idea. I remember her telling us she's a
2 twin but...
3 Q How old were these people when they went?
4 Obviously they were in high school.
5 A Right. I'd say between 16, 17 years old.
6 Q Why do you think she was lying about her age?
7 A Because she just looked really young. She was
8 really confused about what was going on. I just -- she just
9 had 200 -- she was just like wow. You know? She just
10 looked really young. Things about her.
11 Q Really?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she was?
14 A I think she said she was 17 and I think she looked
15 like she was like 15. Fifteen.
16 Q Okay. Does she still go to Royal Palm High
17 School?
18 A I have no idea. I'm not there anymore.
19 Q Okay. Okay. Did you ever meet any of his
20 assistants?
21 A One girl. I forget her name but she's what do you
22 call it? Like a secretary. She answered all his phone
23 calls. Really pretty girl. Really pretty blond girl. She
24 was a model. I don't remember what her name was.
25 Q Okay. All right.
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1 A She was very nice. Really, really, really nice.
2 Q Out of the four or five times that you went, three
3 of these girls worked and Haley worked the rest?
4 A Yeah. Pretty much. The only time I really went
5 was with Haley so I went with -- see she was like always
6 there all the time, Haley. She'd come with me and Jen, she
7 was with me and Joanna and then the one time with, you know,
8 Sage. They always asked me to work. I never did. Never.
9 I couldn't. There's just something wrong about that. You
10 know, I'm not stupid.
11 Q Do you know if any of these girls had any formal
12 massage training?
13 A No. I don't think so.
14 Q No? Not hard to figure that out?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
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18 A No. I'm just upset. That's all I know.
19 Q Before I end this, just real quick, I just changed
20 my mind, how long ago did Jennifer Siciliano go?
21 A I'd say about a year ago too.
22 Q A year?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Joanna?
25 A Probably about the same time. I haven't seen any
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1 of those girls in about a year. Well actually Jen and me
2 are still friends but I haven't heard about Jeffrey in about
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4 Q Okay. What about Sage?
5 A Yep. About a year ago.
6 Q Year ago? Okay. Okay. Well, at this time I'm
7 going to go ahead and conclude this statement. Again, I
8 appreciate you meeting with me.
9 A Thank you.
10 Q Do you have any questions?
11 A Nope.
12 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. At this time I'm going
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4 Q -- 2005. This is ID number 7915. Detective
5 (inaudible) with the Town of Palm Beach Police Department.
6 Present is Detective Michael Dawson from the Palm Beach
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9 A Lauren Murphy.
10 Q Would you raise your right hand for me, please?
11 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
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13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. And here's my card.
15 A Okay.
16 Q Okay. Obviously I am here because we are working
17 a case involving Jeff Epstein or Jeffrey, and I understand
18 you may have some information as to your visits over to his
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20 A Uh-huh.
21 Q If you could, please, in your own words, tell me
22 from the beginning how you were introduced to Mr. Epstein.
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2 Q Okay. How long ago was this?
3 A Like seven months ago. It was actually March.
4 Q March 2005?
5 A Uh-huh.
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7 A And then after he met me he asked for a massage
8 and I was kind of hesitant because it was kind of weird but
9 I did it anyways and I went up there and gave him a massage
10 and he gave me 200 the first time.
11 Q Okay. How many times have you been to his house
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13 A Between like seven and ten from the time I started
14 from like once a month.
15 Q Seven to ten times a month -- seven to ten times?
16 A Yeah.
17 Q When was the last time you were there?
18 A September the 28th. Not last (inaudible).
19 Q Okay. Okay. All right. And what was your duties
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21 A Just giving him a massage and that's it.
22 Q Okay. Okay. When you entered to the house, who
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1 A The first time I went just Sarah and him.
2 Q Sarah and Jeff?
3 A Uh-huh. And there was other people there but I
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7 Q Do you know Sarah's last name?
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10 Q Okay.
11 A I can give you her name.
12 Q It's a 917 number or something? Yeah. I know.
13 I've interviewed a lot of girls and basically
14 everybody has told me what -- some have held back, some have
15 told me the complete truth.
16 A Okay.
17 Q So what I want you to do is tell me the complete
18 truth of what happened. Okay?
19 A That's what happened.
20 Q Okay.
21 A I mean I know girls that have done more but I
22 haven't. He's asked me. I'm not going to lie to you. But
23 I haven't known him that long.
24 Q Okay. Your first time you went you just sat in
25 the kitchen and waited for Vanessa, correct?
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2 Q Okay. As you've gone, tell me has anything
3 escalated from just a massage?
4 A No. Like the first time I went I waited. The
5 second time I went I stayed in all my clothes and like gave
6 him a massage and I think the third time I went he asked me
7 if I'd like to get like more naked or whatever and I said
8 no. I don't feel comfortable. After that he never asked me
9 anything that made me feel uncomfortable.
10 Q Do you give the massage in your under garments?
11 A No.
12 Q Completely clothed?
13 A Completely clothed, yeah.
14 Q Okay.
15 A I mean he's asked me but I said no because I just
16 don't feel comfortable doing that.
17 Q Has he touched you?
18 A No.
19 Q Has he --
20 A Of course he's touched me. He's given me a hug
21 goodbye. But not in a perv way.
22 Q Okay. So basically you just massaged him?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And you received $200?
25 A Uh-huh.
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1 Q For a massage?
2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Each time?
4 A The last couple times he gave me 300 because I
5 told him I needed money and I told him that driving here
6 from Orlando was costing me a lot. I never asked
7 (inaudible).
8 Q Was there anybody else in the room while you were
9 giving him a massage?
10 A No.
11 Q Just you and him?
12 A Just me and him.
13 Q You've never gone upstairs with Vanessa?
14 A Yeah, I have, but not while I was giving a
15 massage.
16 Q Okay.
17 A One time we were there we were hanging out just
18 talking and stuff.
19 Q Have you recently been contacted by anybody
20 working for Jeff?
21 A Uh-huh. Yes.
22 Q Who have you been in contact with?
23 A I can't really -- oh, this guy named Paul. I
24 don't know how he's affiliated but he just wanted to know
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2 Q Okay. Did he leave you a number? Did he leave
3 you --
4 A He didn't leave me a number but it's on my phone I
5 think.
6 Q Okay. Can you do that? Can I get that number?
7 A Uh-huh. It's not on here anymore but I swear it's
8 a 305 number.
9 Q It's a 305 number?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q And where did he say he --
12 A Actually it might be on my old phone. My old
13 phone is dead but it's on this one because --
14 Q Is that a Nextel?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Dead battery.
17 A But it has a (inaudible).
18 Q Oh. Can you plug that in?
19 A Yeah.
20 Q And what did Paul ask you?
21 A Just what was going on with this whole thing and
22 that's it. I just told him --
23 Q Did he come up here or did you meet with him in
24 Florida?
25 A He came up here.
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1 Q Oh, he came up here?
2 A Yeah.
3 Q He met you right here?
4 A Not here. I met him at Wal-Mart and I just -- he
5 just kept asking me questions that I didn't know the answer
6 to so...
7 Q Was he an investigator? Was he an attorney?
8 A I don't know. I don't think he was an attorney
9 because he kept saying the information he's getting from me
10 is going to go to Jeff's attorney so I don't think he was an
11 attorney.
12 Q What kind of questions was he asking? If the
13 police were involved?
14 A Yeah. If -- how the police got involved. I said
15 I don't know. What kind of questions they were asking me.
16 I said I don't know because I haven't been questioned yet
17 and just like how old I was and basically like you guys are
18 asking what I did when I went there.
19 Q Now how old were you when you first started going
20 there?
21 A Eighteen. I'm 19 now this last March.
22 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
23 Q March of '05, right?
24 A Yeah. And I turned 19.
25 Q And did he question Saige at the same time?
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1 A No.
2 Q Did he ever?
3 A No. Saige said she didn't want to.
4 Q Okay. And he said he was a representative of
5 Jeffrey Epstein?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Did he call you or did Jeffrey or Sarah --
8 A No, he called me. This is the number. It's
9 305 --
10 Q Uh-huh.
11 A -- 710-5165.
12 Q Okay. When was this you met him?
13 A Like two, three -- it was Friday or Saturday.
14 Q Did he come by himself?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Did he tape the conversation?
17 A No. He asked me and I said no.
18 BY MALE SPEAKER:
19 Q Okay. If he reaches out to you again just give
20 him my number and have him call me.
21 A Uh-huh.
22 Q Okay?
23 A He asked for your number but I didn't -- I had a
24 number (inaudible) and then I was just like you know that's
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1 Q I'm with the Palm Beach Police.
2 A Oh, like Palm Beach Island?
3 Q Yeah. Town Hall.
4 A I told him the Palm Beach Sheriff's Department.
5 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
6 Q When you went to Jeffrey Epstein, where was the
7 house located?
8 A On Palm Beach.
9 Q In Palm Beach?
10 A Yeah. Oh, the guy asked me also if I was ever
11 anywhere else besides his house.
12 BY MALE SPEAKER:
13 Q With Jeffrey?
14 A Yeah. And I said no because (inaudible).
15 Q At his house. Okay. So basically all you did was
16 a standard massage?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Messaged what?
19 A His back and his lower back and his feet.
20 Q Okay. Have you ever seen him naked?
21 A No. In a towel but that's it.
22 Q That's it. Has he ever touched you?
23 A No.
24 Q Has he ever touched himself while you were
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1 A No. He was mostly like on the phone like my
2 friend told me he's never that way toward me. He asked me
3 once.
4 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
5 Q What did he ask you?
6 A He asked me like the third time I went there.
7 Q To do what?
8 A If I wanted to get naked or do anything more and I
9 said no and I think he could tell I was like uncomfortable
10 with it so.
11 BY MALE SPEAKER:
12 Q Okay. All right. So aside from Sarah and
13 Jeffrey, did you meet anybody else in the house?
14 A I met -- yeah, but I don't know like I didn't meet
15 them but I've seen them. Like I know who (inaudible) and
16 I've seen a little like short -- I don't even know. Some
17 lady out there didn't speak well English and then there was
18 a guy with blond hair and he doesn't speak that well English
19 either.
20 Q Okay.
21 A And but I know (inaudible) introduced to them and
22 then Atriana or Adriana or whatever her name is --
23 Q Uh-huh?
24 A I was never introduced. I'd just seen her and
25 said hi to her before. Then Sarah and Jeff I've met
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2 Q And you would travel from Orlando down there just
3 to --
4 A Huh-huh. My family lives there so...
5 Q Okay. For the record your date of birth is?
6 A 6/1/86.
7 Q Okay. Aside from Vanessa has anybody else asked
8 to you go over there?
9 A Haley, but I never went with her.
10 Q Okay. So the very first time you went to the
11 house was with Vanessa?
12 A Uh-huh.
13 Q And Haley approached you when?
14 A At the same time Vanessa did but I'm friends with
15 Vanessa. I wasn't really friends with Haley and I knew
16 Hailey was making money off of it.
17 Q It was no secret. I mean everybody knows that
18 Haley was working for him.
19 A Yeah. Everybody knew that.
20 Q I know that.
21 A So I just was like I don't know you that well. He
22 wanted to make money off of Vanessa. I just wanted to go
23 with Vanessa because she know him and she know like the
24 situation so I went with her.
25 Q How far has Vanessa gone with him?
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1 A She really doesn't go into detail. I know she's
2 gone farther than me but she doesn't really go into detail
3 about it.
4 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
5 add to this statement?
6 A No.
7 MALE SPEAKER: No. Okay. At this time I'm
8 going to go ahead and conclude the statement. The
9 time by my watch is 12:10.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 BY MALE SPEAKER:
4 Q Today's date is October 4th, 2005. This is ID
5 number 7915 Detective (inaudible) of the Palm Beach Police
6 Department. Present at 1301 (inaudible) Road is Detective
7 Michael Dawson of the Palm Beach Police Department.
8 And can you state your name for the record?
9 A Faith Pentek.
10 Q Faith, how do you spell your last name?
11 A P-E-N-T-E-K.
12 Q Okay. How old are you?
13 A I'm 18.
14 Q Eighteen. Okay. You're currently in college?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. What college are you attending?
17 A Valencia.
18 Q Valencia. Okay. And your date of birth is?
19 A 6/30/87.
20 Q Okay. Can you raise your right hand for me? Do
21 you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
22 nothing but the truth so help you God?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Faith, if you could tell me from the beginning how
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1 and we are conducting an investigation. We were here last
2 night, spoke with your mom and dad. If you can just start
3 from the beginning as to how you met him.
4 A Okay.
5 Q And how it came about.
6 A I met him through my friend Haley.
7 Q Okay. How long ago was that?
8 A It was probably about almost a year ago.
9 Q Okay. Okay.
10 A And he -- I went there once with her and she gave
11 him a massage and then she asked me if I wanted to do it and
12 I did it or whatever and then after that like he kind of
13 scared me when I went there so I just decided not to go
14 back.
15 Q Okay. The first time you went with Haley did you
16 go upstairs with him?
17 A No, I stayed downstairs.
18 Q Did Haley tell you that -- what was entailed as to
19 what had to be done?
20 A Well she said the first time you go it's just like
21 a massage and she said well like well the more you go
22 supposedly the more he like expects and likes flirting with
23 girls and that's what kind of like scared me.
24 Q Okay. I've interviewed other girls and they've
25 told me pretty much the same thing about the massage but
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1 there's more to that. More to the massage. Okay? That's
2 why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me
3 about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other
4 people already who've told me what transpired in that room.
5 I know it's going to be difficult for you but...
6 A Well the first time I went there I did a massage
7 and he was just asking me a lot of questions, he seemed
8 really nice, and then he kept like staring at me and stuff.
9 And then like I did a massage and he just kept looking at me
10 and he was like oh, you're being shy and I'm like yeah. And
11 he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I was like yeah, a
12 little bit. And he's like okay. And he's like well do you
13 want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. And he was like
14 why are you like being shy and I was like oh, I don't know
15 and then he would like change the subject and he started
16 talking about other things. And then when we were done he
17 said that if like I wanted to come back and do more then he
18 would like to pay me more and then I would have to talk to
19 Haley and I could come back.
20 Q Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as
21 you were massaging him?
22 A He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't
23 remember everything but...
24 Q Right.
25 A He was asking me if I had any friends that would
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2 asked me about what I wanted to do when I grew up and stuff
3 like that and I asked him what he did and he said he was
4 like a scientist basically.
5 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you how old you were?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Did he know that you were 17?
8 A No, I don't think so.
9 Q Well it would have been 16 if it was a year ago,
10 right?
11 A Well it was almost a year ago. (Inaudible.)
12 Q Okay. During the massage did you -- were you
13 naked or --
14 A No. I had my clothes on.
15 Q You had all your clothes on?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Okay. Did he touch you in anyway?
18 A He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I
19 was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he
20 didn't but I heard about other girls that he -- that he got
21 flirtatious with them and he made them take off their
22 clothes and stuff.
23 Q Okay. What -- that was the first time you went,
24 right?
25 A Yeah.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Well, no, it was the second time I gave him a
3 massage. The first time I went up with Haley.
4 Q You went upstairs with Haley?
5 A No, I was in the kitchen.
6 Q You were in the kitchen. You only had two times
7 that you went there?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q The first time you didn't do anything but just sit
10 in the kitchen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Who did you sit in the kitchen with?
13 A He had a cook that was there and he had -- there
14 was like two other girls that live with him.
15 Q Okay. Did you massage his back? Was he naked
16 when you were massaging him?
17 A Well, he had like a towel around his -- his upper
18 was (inaudible) but he had like a towel around him.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever remove that towel?
20 A No.
21 Q When you were massaging him he never removed the
22 towel?
23 A No.
24 Q Okay. Did you -- did he have you touch his
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1 A No. No. I wouldn't do that.
2 Q You wouldn't do that?
3 Okay. Did he touch you in your private area?
4 A No. No.
5 Q No.
6 A He kept like staring at me and like, I don't know,
7 I just felt uncomfortable and I left. But I heard other
8 stories that like --
9 Q Right. I'm concerned with you. I know about
10 other stories and I've interviewed other people have told me
11 different things. That's why I'm trying to find out what
12 happened to you. Okay? You're the victim in this so that's
13 why I'm trying to find out what happens to you.
14 A Uh-huh.
15 Q Okay? Who took you upstairs to the room?
16 A This girl Sarah that lives with him.
17 Q Okay. So Sarah took you up?
18 A Yeah.
19 Q Did she tell you anything? Did she say anything?
20 A Huh-huh. There's a massage table and she just
21 laid a towel down and she said that Jeffrey will be out for
22 his massage.
23 Q Okay. Have you received any massage training?
24 A No.
25 Q No. I have to ask.
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1 Was Sarah one of the two girls that was in the
2 kitchen with you?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Did you ever go back to his house?
5 A Well, I just went there twice.
6 Q Right.
7 A After that --
8 Q After that you've never come back? Never went
9 back?
10 How much did you receive for the massage?
11 A Two hundred.
12 Q You received 200.
13 Okay. Did Haley explain to you what was going to
14 be involved?
15 A She said the first time you go there you pretty
16 much just give a massage but the more you go there the more
17 he expects so that's it. That scared me.
18 Q That's what scared you?
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20 Q Did she say (inaudible) or did she (inaudible)
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22 A Say didn't have to say it exactly but she implied
23 like, you know, like taking your clothes off and stuff like
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1 BY MALE SPEAKER:
2 Q Okay. So you didn't remove any of your clothing?
3 A No.
4 Q What were you wearing? Can you remember?
5 A I don't know. It was a long time ago. I don't
6 remember exactly.
7 Q Okay.
8 A I don't want to tell you wrong.
9 Q I know. And I know you already told your mom what
10 happened. And like I said, I know this is hard for you
11 but...
12 A I was just scared. I just didn't want my name to
13 like --
14 Q Don't worry. You're not the only person I've
15 talked to. Okay? There's a lot of people that I've talked
16 to and I'm going to talk to.
17 How did you get to his house?
18 A With Haley.
19 Q Haley. Haley took you the first time and you sat
20 in the kitchen.
21 A Yeah.
22 Q What about the second time?
23 A The second time I drove and she came with me.
24 Because I didn't want to --
25 Q You drove. What is it you drive?
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1 A I used to have a Cavalier.
2 Q A Cavalier. What color?
3 A Red.
4 Q Okay. Can you describe to me what Mr. Epstein
5 looks like? Jeffrey looks like?
6 A He's tall and he has like greyish/black hair and
7 he usually wears like glasses and he has blue eyes.
8 Q Okay. When you messaged him, you messaged his
9 back area?
10 A Yes. And I did his feet too.
11 Q And his feet. Okay. Did you do his legs?
12 A Yeah, like his calves.
13 Q His calves. Thigh area?
14 A No.
15 Q His chest area?
16 A No.
17 Q No. Can you describe what his body looks like?
18 A He's not fat but he's not like thin. He's like
19 normal like average.
20 Q Average? Okay. Is he hairy? Is he not hairy?
21 A A little bit.
22 Q A little bit? A little bit he's got hair on his
23 back?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Yeah? How about hair on his chest?
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1 A Um --
2 Q You don't remember? Okay.
3 He did not touch you inappropriately?
4 A No.
5 Q No. Did he masturbate?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Do you know what masturbate means?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q Okay. Why don't you tell me what it means just so
10 I know that you know.
11 A Playing with yourself.
12 Q Okay. Okay. I have to make sure you understand
13 what it means. Okay? I know it's difficult. He didn't
14 touch himself --
15 A No.
16 Q -- while you were massaging him?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Is there anything else you'd like to add?
19 A No. I mean I heard of other stories that he did
20 and I don't think it's very like appropriate like --
21 Q Right.
22 A -- the stories I heard.
23 Q Right. Well, a lot of people that I've been
24 talking to are about your age and a couple younger than you
25 so that's the part that I have serious problems with.
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1 A Yeah.
2 MALE SPEAKER: Do you have any questions?
3 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
4 Q Did you see any others -- when you were there you
5 said there were two girls in the kitchen. The second time
6 you went you went with Haley. Were there any other girls
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8 A Yeah, there were the same two girls that were
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10 Q Same two girls? Okay.
11 A I'm pretty sure they like live and travel with
12 him.
13 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. All right. Well at
14 this time I'm going to conclude this statement.
15 It's 11:45 a.m.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 A -- say anything to you about this (inaudible),
4 right?
5 Q You know we're not argue again. We're not going
6 to keep much from you.
7 A I just don't want to rat anybody out. I'm not an
8 idiot. Come on, now.
9 Q That wasn't more of a ratting out. It was more of
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11 A (Inaudible.)
12 Q You got it.
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q You're a smart girl.
15 A I'm not an idiot.
16 Q Yeah. No, you're not an idiot.
17 A I guess karma, you know.
18 Q (Inaudible.) I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't
19 even know who he is.
20 A I don't know. It's such a big -- there's so many
21 girls out there that have worked for him it's not even
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23 Q Really?
24 A Like I said some bring friends who bring friends
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1 MALE SPEAKER: All right. You notified
2 (inaudible).
3 MALE SPEAKER 2: I notified Jimmy.
4 MALE SPEAKER: Give him a call. (Inaudible)
5 692 -- our ending mileage was 692323, I'm sorry,
6 6923. Our beginning mileage to head back
7 southwest -- (inaudible) white female (inaudible)
8 same mileage 6923. What was that?
9 MALE SPEAKER 2: Fire truck.
10 THE WITNESS: So when will I know what's
11 going to happen?
12 BY MALE SPEAKER:
13 Q Well, here's the thing. What are you doing
14 tomorrow? Well, no, here's our goal. We would like to at
15 least like to talk to -- help me. We want to try to --
16 A (Inaudible.)
17 Q Right. Tonight.
18 A Tonight I'm free so tomorrow I go to school from
19 12 to 4.
20 Q Uh-huh.
21 A Wednesday I get (inaudible).
22 Q Well, tomorrow what are you doing after 4:00?
23 A Nothing.
24 Q Okay. Do you have to go to work.
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1 Q Okay. We would prefer to do it sooner than later
2 and our request from you at this point as we move along is
3 really for you to make that phone call and introduce us and
4 say, you know, these are the detectives from the Palm Beach
5 Police Department. I've told them everything. They're on
6 their way to your house. Do you know these girls' schedules
7 by chance? Anything like that? Do they still go to high
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9 A Well Jen still goes to high school. She's a
10 senior.
11 Q Okay. And that's who we want to speak to tonight.
12 From what you're telling us we're confident Jen will not be
13 going and talking to Jeffrey. Depending on how that goes we
14 might ask give you a call and ask you to make another call.
15 If we could break out the list, make sure we have our little
16 order of obviously Vanessa, based on what you're saying,
17 should be the last on our list. We don't know if she's
18 still --
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: She's in Orlando. We can
20 (inaudible) over the phone.
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22 Q Now didn't you say she was back though?
23 A (Inaudible) back. I don't know if she has class
24 tomorrow but I don't know if she left already or not.
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2 might have already left. What is today? Monday?
3 Q Yeah.
4 A She might have already left today. She had class
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6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A Yeah, she does. Very rarely to see her parents
8 and stuff. Like she lives up in Orlando. She might come
9 back once a month to visit her parents.
10 Q Now do you talk to Faith at all? Not really?
11 A I hung out with her last night. She came down
12 from college and stuff. But --
13 Q That was Sunday night so she was around just last
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15 A She was around last night but like I said I
16 don't -- she might be still here, she might be up in Orlando
17 now.
18 Q Okay. What about Serina?
19 A Oh, I don't like her. I don't like her. What
20 about her? She never worked for Jeffrey but she's been to
21 his house before. She knows about it. Knows about
22 everything that went on. She was the one that was with
23 (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. Does Jen Siciliano (inaudible)?
25 A I don't know.
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1 Q Then (inaudible) lives a couple blocks away from
2 you, yeah?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Serina lives (inaudible.)
5 A (Inaudible.)
6 Q Okay. Why are you afraid of (inaudible)?
7 A Oh, no. I'm not afraid -- you know, what it comes
8 down to? It comes down to this. I'm not afraid of any of
9 those girls but when I am with (inaudible) Serina, Serina
10 cries to Lilly and Lilly was brought in to our (inaudible)
11 which was stupid and instead of being (inaudible) about what
12 happened three years ago, Lilly was like I'm going to kick
13 your ass, da da da, and I was like you know what? Leave me
14 alone pretty much. It got ridiculous. I had to change my
15 number and I saw her at (inaudible) one night. She jumped
16 me from behind. I go you didn't say anything to me all
17 night and when she jumped me from behind she jumped me so
18 whatever. Girls are stupid.
19 Q All right. Who else is on that list you got
20 there, Jim? You know a girl named Ashley?
21 A Ashley.
22 (Inaudible cell phone discussion.)
23 A So what if Jen's not home?
24 Q Okay. Well we'll move on. Right now we want you
25 to help us with an order of who in your mind (inaudible)
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1 you're confident was 16 or maybe 17 when they went there,
2 who probably no longer has connections with Jeff (inaudible)
3 who at least maybe a day might keep their mouth shut.
4 A Okay. Well with Serina I don't know how old she
5 is because she lied about her age. She lied to me when I
6 first met her. When I was 18 she told me she was 18.
7 (Inaudible.) Well she left her purse at my house and she
8 told me to make sure that I didn't look in her purse. When
9 I went through her purse I found her state license that said
10 she was 16 so she lied to me about her age. I don't care
11 about work for Jeffrey but --
12 Q We're looking for girls that went upstairs with
13 Jeff.
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Those three or four girls, whatever you can, you
16 know, help us out with here, that is our goal in the next
17 let's say 24 hours.
18 A Okay.
19 Q Is to reach out to as many of those girls and it
20 might be as simple as we give you a call on you cell
21 phone --
22 A And you call them.
23 Q And you say hey, wee need you to call this girl
24 and say we're out front because that's definitely when
25 there's (inaudible) where these girls live tonight so that
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1 we can reach out to them and say hey, Haley, we're out in
2 front of so and so's house, can you give her a call and let
3 her know that there's a couple of detectives outside and no,
4 not kidding, they really are there and heads up. You know
5 what I mean?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q What we'd like to -- we've got a half hour there
8 is we can try to make some details on that so we're all on
9 the same page, that's what we're going to do. So how many
10 girls was on the list that we started with?
11 A You asked me if I knew an Ashley.
12 Q That's what we're going to need is the last names
13 of these girls as well.
14 A I don't know.
15 Q That's okay. Angela?
16 A Angela? I've heard of a girl named Angela but I
17 don't know (inaudible), you know? To my knowledge I don't
18 know. (Inaudible?)
19 Q No. (Inaudible?)
20 A Angela (inaudible) now that I know I know a girl
21 named Angela but I definitely (inaudible) not like that.
22 Q (Inaudible.)
23 A Don't know. I know (inaudible).
24 Q Besides Jen who else ended up upstairs with Jeff?
25 A That's it.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Saige.
3 Q Okay. Saige. Do you know their last names?
4 A Serina's last name I don't know. I don't know
5 (inaudible). Vanessa (inaudible). Faith Pentek. Yolanda
6 Lopez. And I know Jen's brother, (inaudible). I think the
7 last name is Reyes. I don't know if (inaudible) or anything
8 because I know (inaudible). It might be Reyes.
9 Q (Inaudible?)
10 A (Inaudible.)
11 Q (Inaudible.)
12 A (Inaudible.)
13 Q Do you know their phone numbers by chance or do
14 you have them in your phone maybe?
15 A Let me check. Okay. What's the first girl?
16 Q Faith.
17 A Faith? Faith I know by heart. It's 313-3730 and
18 it's a 561.
19 Q Vanessa (inaudible).
20 A Vanessa I don't even have in my phone.
21 Q Serina?
22 A Serina, I know hers by heart. 317-3248. Area
23 code 561.
24 Q How about Yolanda Lopez?
25 A Yolanda Lopez, no, I don't know her number at all.
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1 Q (Inaudible.)
2 A -- 9566. I'm pretty sure that's it because that's
3 the only ones I have.
4 Q Jennifer Reyes?
5 A I know her brother's number but Jennifer Reyes, I
6 don't have her number.
7 Q Is that his cell? Okay.
8 A (Inaudible.) Jennifer will have, Jen Siciliano
9 should have Yolanda Lopez because they hang out.
10 Q They hang out.
11 A Quite a bit. And you should also (inaudible) and
12 Vanessa (inaudible), I know the first three digits it's 635,
13 635, it might be 3454 but I haven't talked to her in a
14 while.
15 Q So if we start with Jen tonight, what you just
16 said is Jen could introduce us to Yolanda who could then
17 introduce us to --
18 A To Jen Reyes.
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: Jen Reyes. Okay. Jen hangs
20 out with Vanessa. Obviously I'm going to talk to
21 Vanessa last.
22 BY MALE SPEAKER:
23 Q Right. We want to avoid Vanessa at all costs. So
24 my question to you is these three girls --
25 A They all know each other.
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1 Q They know each other.
2 A They all know each other.
3 Q Even Vanessa.
4 A They know Vanessa. They know everybody. It's
5 like a group of people who all know each other.
6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A The only one they might not know is (inaudible)
8 but...
9 Q All we've got is the a group of girls that --
10 A They've all heard of each other (inaudible).
11 Q They all go to school with each other to your
12 knowledge?
13 A Some of them. Not all of them but some of them
14 still go to school together.
15 Q Jen Siciliano. Does she still go to school?
16 A She still goes to Royal Palm Beach High School.
17 Q Okay.
18 A Yolanda? I don't know if Yolanda graduated last
19 year or (inaudible) and Jen Reyes I'm not sure. Might have
20 graduated last year. (Inaudible.)
21 Q Okay. So they won't have as much contact as the
22 other group. (Inaudible).
23 A (Inaudible.)
24 Q My office is warm. The bull pen out there is luke
25 warm. Yeah, and it's a twenty-year building so nothing
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1 really circulates as it should. (Inaudible) in the car. If
2 there's anybody that (inaudible). Vanessa we're not going
3 to talk to.
4 MALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible.)
5 THE WITNESS: (Inaudible) call her open your
6 mouth (inaudible).
7 BY MALE SPEAKER:
8 Q We will absolutely tell them that that they would
9 be expecting an investigation.
10 A The only one that's going to open her mouth is
11 probably Serina. The only one who won't say anything would
12 be Vanessa.
13 Q Are these girls, you know, are they embarrassed
14 about what they've done? Would they rather nobody know if
15 it possible or are they out there flaunting it?
16 A They don't care. These girls don't care. For the
17 most part they don't care.
18 Q Okay.
19 A Otherwise they wouldn't do it.
20 Q I tend to agree but that doesn't mean (inaudible)
21 get in on the action or (inaudible) in general?
22 A (Inaudible.)
23 Q (Inaudible) that (inaudible) call dispatch. A
24 couple of females, get some addresses after we're done with
25 Jen I think (inaudible) talking about next? (Inaudible) oh,
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2 A Well, I don't know (inaudible).
3 Q We should probably try her since she would be
4 leaving. You want to try -- Faith is of to college.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 A -- in charge of the cars, the swimming pool, the
4 grounds and so I was basically, you know, the only one in
5 charge when they were away too.
6 Q Okay. He's not here much though.
7 A No. He has several houses.
8 Q Right. Did you stay on property?
9 A Yes, I did.
10 Q Okay. In the guest house section?
11 A Yes. Guest house.
12 Q Okay. Which is the house --
13 A Exactly.
14 Q -- just next to the kitchen door.
15 A Exactly.
16 Q Right?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Right outside.
19 A Next to the kitchen.
20 Q Okay. During your time of employment there, what
21 was your relationship with Mr. Epstein like?
22 A Well, he mostly wanted to be alone unless
23 important matter so sometimes I will have to call New York
24 to his secretary to call his personal assistant so I could
25 talk to him because we're not supposed to go to the second
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1 floor when he was there most of the time.
2 Q All right. So if he was in residence and he was
3 in his room in the master bedroom --
4 A Yes.
5 Q -- and you needed to speak to him, you couldn't?
6 A No, I couldn't knock. That was requested for all
7 of us. For, you know, there were four people at the time
8 helping me and running the compound.
9 Q Who were the four people that were helping you?
10 A (inaudible) who is the housekeeper I think is
11 still with him and then (inaudible) guy with me and Jerome.
12 Q Uh-huh.
13 A And those are full time. And then we have the
14 swimming pool lady used to come three or four times a week.
15 Q Okay.
16 A And the gardener. His name is (inaudible) I
17 forget his name. A guy who you lives in Wellington.
18 Q Okay.
19 A He would be most of the days but when he left they
20 weren't supposed to be there, you know.
21 Q Okay. So who would you call in New York to get a
22 hold of --
23 A Leslie.
24 Q Leslie?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q That's his secretary?
2 A That's his secretary.
3 Q In New York?
4 A Yes. 264 Madison Avenue is the address.
5 Q Okay. And then she would call his assistant?
6 A I guess that was Sarah. She still is. That's his
7 personal assistant.
8 Q Okay. Describe Sarah for me, if you can.
9 A Sarah is a very young, beautiful. I think she was
10 born in North Carolina.
11 Q Uh-huh.
12 A Very spirited, beautiful girl inside and out.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she is?
14 A Sarah I think 24, 23, something like that.
15 Q Okay. All right. And then she would in turn tell
16 Mr. Epstein that you need to see him?
17 A Yes, exactly. We weren't supposed to bother him
18 unless was a real -- he will get not angry but I mean he
19 wouldn't like any of us going upstairs and when we notice he
20 will go away then we will go upstairs and fix the room, you
21 know, make sure we clean everything up.
22 Q Okay. If he had guests come over and they went
23 upstairs, after he left his room would you go upstairs and
24 tidy up or --
25 A Well, I will greet them and I will be sure who are
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1 them and they usually give me a list of the people who will
2 go and I will make them feel comfortable in the kitchen,
3 offer them a drink, and he can sometimes he will give me
4 orders to send people upstairs.
5 Q Okay. So they would go upstairs. First of all,
6 who would give you a list of people who were coming?
7 A Sarah.
8 Q Sarah.?
9 A She would say at that time so and so is coming.
10 Q And then you'll make them comfortable in the
11 kitchen and either he would come down or Sarah would come
12 down?
13 A Yes. And at that time I will go to the staff
14 house or another part of the house and he will take over,
15 you know, the cabana or the swimming pool.
16 Q Okay. When the guests would leave and Mr. Epstein
17 would come down stairs, would you go upstairs to clean or
18 tidy up?
19 A No. Not with him there in the bedroom.
20 Q No. What I'm saying he would come downstairs.
21 A Yeah. Sometimes (inaudible). Sometimes we need
22 to be there but not be heard so we run upstairs and pick up
23 the towels and clear the beds and bathroom and everything
24 because we have a manual that everything has to be tidy in a
25 certain way so that's our routine.
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1 Q Okay. When he was in residence, would there be
2 certain girls coming by to go see him for massages?
3 A Yes. Most every day.
4 Q Every day?
5 A Yes.
6 Q When he would be in residence?
7 A One in the morning, one in the afternoon give
8 massage.
9 Q Twice a day.
10 A Yes.
11 Q Okay. Okay. Describe these girls to me.
12 A He will have prior to me coming to the house he
13 will for some reasons he will pick out from a long list I
14 guess a lot of people that like to do work (inaudible).
15 They will give massage sometimes to him and his companion
16 and they were nice in the sense of you know I remember one
17 there was (inaudible) that live here in Palm Beach Gardens I
18 guess. She was very nice. I mean usually the people there,
19 you know, general nice people.
20 Q Okay. Did they appear young to you?
21 A Yes. They were young. You know, (inaudible) all
22 of them. Twenty-eight or something like that.
23 Q Anybody younger than 18?
24 A You had to say that, sir. You know there were a
25 lot of girls that were very, very young but you know for me
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1 to say they were minors, you know, you know, I never see
2 their driver's license. They look very young.
3 Q Do you recall any of the names of the girls?
4 A I have to -- see I have some notes that I have a
5 manual because I used to call in once in a while and I don't
6 recall right at this moment but I know who they are and some
7 live in town.
8 Q In Palm Beach or --
9 A Some are west Wellington or one was in high school
10 in Royal Palm Beach High School I think it's called.
11 Q Okay. Do you remember that girl's name?
12 A I rent a car to her but I don't -- to be honest
13 with you I don't remember exactly. I have --
14 Q You rented a car for her?
15 A Yeah, he ask me to rent a car for her.
16 Q Do you know what kind of car it was?
17 A It was a Dodge Neon.
18 Q A Dodge Neon. Color?
19 A I think it was a blue Neon from Dollar Rent-a-Car.
20 Q From Dollar?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A It was my driver's license that I use so...
24 Q Did you add that person as an additional driver or
25 --
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1 A Yeah.
2 Q So that person was an additional driver?
3 A Yes. Exactly.
4 Q Okay. Was this at the direction of Mr. Epstein
5 or --
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. And Mr. Epstein --
8 A Whatever I do I have to be (inaudible).
9 Q Right. Okay. How long ago was it? Do you
10 remember?
11 A This was I think January of 2005 or February
12 because I had to go back then because it was the rental
13 company they call me because the rental was expiring so I
14 need to go to rent for another month so she rent for another
15 two weeks.
16 Q Okay. Do you remember this girl's name?
17 A I know but I mean I probably have to sit down.
18 There's so many. But I can't keep everything in my head.
19 Q How many girls would you say came over, different
20 girls?
21 A With him (inaudible) easily four or five.
22 Q No, while he was in residence come over and give a
23 massage.
24 A Sometimes as many as 15 but exact because sometime
25 I was away, I was supposed to only bar tend and staff house
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1 and even the chef came to the staff house and we were
2 supposed to be there because, you know, they go to the
3 swimming pool, you know, (inaudible) to go and say, you
4 know, if he call me I would go in but (inaudible) and like
5 that.
6 Q Okay. So they would go out to the pool?
7 A Yeah. Well this is the thing that we used to
8 sneak because once they leave it's like we are behind the
9 scenes and necessarily people, you know.
10 Q Okay. Who was the chef then?
11 A David. David what is his last name? He came from
12 New York with him.
13 Q He flies in with him?
14 A Yes.
15 Q Okay. All right. Okay. When they would come
16 over to do a massage, you say it was twice a day when he was
17 in town. One in the morning, one in the afternoon?
18 A Yes.
19 Q When he would leave the room, would you go
20 upstairs and straighten up?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Did he have his massage table?
23 A Yes. He had several massage tables. We would put
24 them away, we pick up the towels, the small towels, the
25 massage oils and, you know.
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1 Q Okay. Was there anything else that you would have
2 to pick up in the room?
3 A Everything that was on the floor. You know, but
4 what include that while cleaning the room sometimes we used
5 to find items that we were supposed to label where we find
6 them and everything else but when (inaudible) came to town
7 he wanted those items to be returned but sometimes he was
8 getting upset because (inaudible). So it was kind of a
9 catch 22. We used to keep them in the laundry room for a
10 while but nobody claim them.
11 Q When you cleaned the room, was there other things
12 that you would pick up aside from the massage stuff? Was
13 there any like sex toys?
14 A No, sir. They was only in one place. I never
15 find them on the floor.
16 Q Okay. Would you have to pick those things up when
17 he was done?
18 A No, I never saw one on the floor. They were only
19 one place and I never see them out of the --
20 Q Okay. And he, you know, vibrators, massagers?
21 A Well, he had a lot of vibrators for his body.
22 They were laying all over the floor. We pick up those, put
23 them in the recharger and there was procedure to put
24 everything in its place and you know, dry set of towels, and
25 that was a heavy job I have to say because there was a lot
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1 of towels. The dryer --
2 Q The departure from his employment, was that a good
3 thing?
4 A I was burned out, sir. I was burned out because I
5 was hired to have staff and work under a staff and he had me
6 breakfast at 6:30 in the morning. Sometimes he'd call me to
7 fix him a meal at 10:00 p.m. or so and the next day
8 3:00 o'clock early and I'm a married man so my wife was in
9 Miami I was looking for a day job and so that's the thing
10 after six months I was beginning to feel burn out. But I
11 think I served him well, with loyalty, discretion. You know
12 we have to sign a confidential agreement.
13 Q There was an agreement?
14 A Yes, sir. I would say to come here because I know
15 you're the law but we signed that and I don't know if we
16 have any repercussions from talking about this but I know
17 you are the badge so...
18 Q Well, also you're under subpoena so were you
19 contacted by anybody from the house after we spoke or before
20 we spoke?
21 A I called him and I was telling him -- I was very
22 curious and I know what I'm getting into but I was starting
23 to tell him there's some investigation and he told me well
24 you know, what do you know. And I said well, the head of my
25 security department is going to contact you. So I get this
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1 gentleman by the name of Bill Riley (phonetic). He contact
2 me and we spend a good two hours going through the hotel.
3 Q Okay.
4 A And we spoke this morning too but that was my
5 direct link to him. And when I was subpoenaed for today I
6 tried to contact him but he never received it. He was
7 outside by there. Told us not to talk to anybody. This is
8 all the communication I had with him.
9 Q You spoke with Mr. Riley again today?
10 A Yes. Yes. I told him that I was closed and where
11 was the building and that's what I ask him and he said fine,
12 so call me when you're done. That was it.
13 Q What is it that he wants you to know? What is it
14 he wants --
15 A He said he wanted to provide me an attorney and
16 then my wife told me you don't need an attorney.
17 Q Right.
18 A Because you haven't done anything wrong so that's
19 the reason, you know, I never been in this situation before
20 so I (inaudible) because you not hide anything.
21 Q Okay. What is it that Mr. Riley wanted to know
22 from you?
23 A Why I don't want an attorney. I say I don't have
24 nothing to hide, you know, so I'm going to be honest. I
25 didn't -- what I did, you know, I'm a working man. I work
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1 for another old man millionaire in Fort Lauderdale and you
2 can check my background and everything. I don't want to
3 think that my job that I'm doing something that was illegal
4 or something like that.
5 Q Okay. You know you're not compelled to speak with
6 Mr. Riley if he's a private investigator. You don't have to
7 speak to him if you don't want to. You know? And what we
8 discuss here I hope that would stay between us. It's an
9 ongoing investigation. Mr. Riley wants to know what I'm
10 doing, I'll give you my card. He can call me. Okay?
11 A Okay.
12 Q When you spoke with him you said you spoke to him
13 two hours at the hotel. What is it that he wanted to know
14 from you?
15 A Well he took notes on a pad like that and he said
16 how long I was employed. He probably knew what I did over
17 there but he asked me you know some questions like you ask
18 me about people who went there and what was my routine and
19 so he said what do I think and I say I don't know. Then
20 again he didn't ask me for names but, you know, he took a
21 lot of notes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A We spend a good two hours there.
24 Q When you would go upstairs to clean the bedroom
25 area, you know that there was some vibrators slash
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2 A In front of his bed there's a dresser that he open
3 and he had videos and toys.
4 Q Okay. In your opinion do you feel that there was
5 more than just a massage going on in the room?
6 A We all did. We all did. But it was kept under
7 such tight because he would close his shutter. No lights in
8 his room on the second floor. No natural light. And when
9 he left we opened that and let the whole thing air out but
10 he was always (inaudible) needed to be closed.
11 Q How did you get employed with Mr. Epstein? How
12 did you know about him?
13 A I had two friends. I was born in Bolivia, South
14 America, and I have two friends of mine who were working for
15 the Leon Black in New York and he said looked like he had a
16 couple of Philipinos that they stole from him in the past
17 and so he was looking for a very, you know, people like me
18 he can rely because we used to keep a lot of cash in the
19 house. There were guns. But I was the only one opening and
20 closing the safe because he (inaudible) 10,000 from the safe
21 (inaudible) open. And you know that was another thing but
22 he never lost -- I never lost a penny but I was in charge of
23 anyone going and open the safe (inaudible) and so I was
24 referred by the Leon Black recommendation.
25 Q Okay. Is there any relation to the Black out of
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2 A He owns a company called Apollo. He has a
3 compound (inaudible). That's where he open.
4 Q Okay.
5 A That's how I came on board.
6 Q This Maxwell, is that his --
7 A He's (inaudible) for 14 years but they're not
8 married so sometimes he will have to go to another bedroom
9 (inaudible) another.
10 Q Right.
11 A -- their relationship.
12 Q Like when there was a massage or some girl was
13 over?
14 A Yeah. And she will take a second place and
15 somehow (inaudible) and I have to say that talking from my
16 heart they make a beautiful couple. We try to say happy
17 merry Christmas but they always have (inaudible).
18 Q What, when you said he would become upset when
19 things were moved, what kind of things were moved?
20 A Lingerie. Intimate apparel from the girls.
21 Q Stuff that the girls would leave there?
22 A Yes. Under the bed or you know because we have to
23 clean. We have to turn everything we found. (Inaudible)
24 because the rooms they have colors so the yellow room or the
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1 Q So these are like either panties or --
2 A Yes. Exactly.
3 Q -- bras, that type of thing?
4 A Most of the time because they're small.
5 Q But who wanted to hold on to them?
6 A It was in the manual, sir. I don't know.
7 Somebody wrote a manual.
8 Q Who did you turn it in to?
9 A We put it in the laundry room but sometimes they
10 were so busy and they stay there for a week but we mention
11 that we found something but we knew that that was going to
12 upset her so sometimes we don't mention that but they were
13 there. If he ask what do you find, go over there.
14 Q But you would turn it to Ms. Maxwell or --
15 A Ms. Maxwell. No. No. He didn't want to see
16 those things.
17 Q Okay. Was there ever any men masseuses that came
18 to give him massages?
19 A No, sir. No. I never see it. No.
20 Q Okay. Have you -- did Mr. Riley or Mr. Epstein
21 promise you anything or offer you any gifts in exchange not
22 to speak to me?
23 A No, sir. No.
24 Q Have they offered you anything?
25 A No.
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1 Q Okay. All right. And during your six months, you
2 felt approximately 15 girls, how many times would you say
3 you saw them?
4 A (Inaudible) because when I greet them because I
5 was supposed to answer the phone and the door so I saw them.
6 It's mind boggling because there's so many names you have to
7 remember and the rotation so they traveled with him and some
8 they come back. Sometimes, you know, I have to -- he will
9 tell me Alfredo you should go to Worth Avenue. Carry my
10 checkbook and buy them stuff on Worth Avenue for them or I
11 rent a plane for two hours make him happy.
12 Q And they would go on trips?
13 A They would go on trips, yes. He owns an island in
14 St. Thomas. He owns a house in France. The biggest house
15 in Manhattan and in Mexico and Palm Beach.
16 Q Okay. Did any of these girls ever fly with him to
17 New York or anywhere else?
18 A Oh, yes. Yes. All the time.
19 Q Okay. Was it the girl that you rented a car for?
20 A She went to New York I think or the island. But
21 I'm not sure but yeah.
22 Q Okay. Any other girl that you can think of might
23 have gone on trips with him?
24 A Well, all of them did. You know, they can
25 actually -- (inaudible) talk to the chief pilot. He would
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2 (inaudible) there next to (inaudible) so we arrange -- we
3 were going to one Mercedes he would drive himself with three
4 girls and I would (inaudible) because usually I was supposed
5 to follow him if he will go someplace and I would follow
6 with the rest of the girls and the baggage in the other car
7 and sometimes I would help the Jet Aviation guy (inaudible)
8 Palm Beach but I didn't know how many were coming because
9 that was another thing I needed to prepare the meals, have
10 flowers in the house so you never know because sometimes
11 when the chef wouldn't come I need to double chef like
12 butler.
13 Q You were man of many hats.
14 A Exactly. I was the driver, security, and I have
15 to say I went to the Palm Beach Police Department one time
16 because I was by myself and he will give cash gifts to
17 girls. I came back from Publix and I found an old car in
18 the driveway and sometimes we used to keep the gate open
19 because they have the sensor not to bother so we leave it
20 open so I found this car and I was walking inside saying
21 hello, hello. I found this girl, very young, with an older
22 boyfriend (inaudible). And then he got upset why I went to
23 the police department but I went for security because
24 (inaudible) I was supposed to be carrying $2,000 in my
25 pocket to tip taxi drivers, girls and everything else so
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1 they look at me like an ATM machine basically.
2 Q How much would you give them when they would come
3 by for a tip?
4 A 400, 500, 600, a thousand. Sarah would tell me
5 the amount.
6 Q Would Mr. Epstein pay them personally for the
7 massage or would you pay them for the massage?
8 A I will pay them.
9 Q You would pay them?
10 A Yes. Per Sarah.
11 Q Per Sarah?
12 A I didn't have any cash on the weekend so they told
13 me get into the safe and get but that was my petty cash
14 because we were supposed to have all the money (inaudible).
15 Q Okay.
16 A So when he told me that, when he left he said pay
17 this girl and (inaudible) and that's something that upset
18 with me because I went to the police because they were not
19 masseuses. They were something else.
20 Q Okay. Did you feel that they were masseuses?
21 A No. Some they were and some they weren't.
22 Q Okay. Out of the 15 people that you saw during
23 your six months, how many of those would you say were not
24 masseuses?
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2 A The majority.
3 Q Did you ever see any money exchange for massages?
4 A No. He will tell me get some money but then I
5 will get out of the house and (inaudible) on the floor with
6 no money.
7 Q Okay. So in essence Mr. Epstein or his assistant
8 would then pay them because you would leave the house,
9 right?
10 A Exactly. That's exactly true.
11 Q Okay. So you were given the cash but he would
12 actually be the one to pay them?
13 A I would pay some of them because he was shopping
14 or doing something and say give this to Susan or 300, 500,
15 600, and so I make envelopes. But my girls at the time I
16 give them the cash and he would never touch the money most
17 of the time.
18 I have to say this, I don't know, I went to high
19 school, sir, taking flowers to the girls. But I feel I have
20 two daughters myself and at that time (inaudible) know what
21 (inaudible) I have a friend who work on Worth Avenue and she
22 says that's where my daughter goes so I took expensive roses
23 but then I realize she was probably very young. And she was
24 in the house.
25 Q And she provided him (inaudible)?
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2 him. Most of the time they (inaudible) next to the master
3 bedroom and they will sometimes I would go and knock on the
4 door and nobody would answer. Then I find two young girls
5 naked in thongs or something like they were on the table. I
6 get out of the house and I tell everybody don't go up there
7 until he left too (inaudible).
8 Q So you've taken flowers. Have you taken anything
9 else to the high school? Which high school was that?
10 A Royal Palm Beach.
11 Q Royal Palm Beach High School?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Do you remember who the flowers were for?
14 A I do remember but I don't have the name with me
15 right now. It was like end of the year they make like a
16 play.
17 Q Uh-huh.
18 A You know and they were supposed to say this is
19 from Jeffrey and congratulations and leave. You know? But
20 (inaudible) who I am because it's a black Mercedes, this and
21 that, so that was one instance that I feel awkward because I
22 can identify. I have two girls.
23 Q And he knew that this girl was going to Royal Palm
24 Beach High School?
25 A I don't think he did. I don't know that he know
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1 that but I was given that (inaudible) by Sarah to buy some
2 flowers from this place on Clematis (inaudible) flowers, the
3 place to buy the flowers. So I went over there but you
4 know.
5 Q Did you deliver anything else to the school other
6 than the flowers?
7 A No. That was the only time I went there.
8 Q His assistant's name was Sarah obviously. He has
9 another friend slash assistant by the name of Nadia.
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Does that ring a bell to you?
12 A Oh, yeah.
13 Q What is she to him?
14 A (Inaudible) the girlfriend of (inaudible) is
15 different because it's like he will do special things with
16 her, travel only with her, (inaudible) very, very young. So
17 by the time when I finish my employment, that was the
18 girlfriend that took the place of all the others.
19 Q So she would have obviously she would sleep in his
20 room and everything?
21 A Well sometimes she will because we pick up his
22 bathrobe in her --
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1 Q Did you ever see Nadia with any other masseuses?
2 A No, because when the massage was going on
3 everything was on the second floor. I never see them. No.
4 Q Okay. You have this stuff written down in a book?
5 You said a manual?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. Is it possible that you can provide me with
8 that book?
9 A Yes, sir.
10 Q Do you have it with you now or down in Miami?
11 A I have it in my house.
12 Q Okay. I would definitely would like to take a
13 look at that book.
14 A I have to say this.
15 Q This will help me.
16 A I had a hint that (inaudible) about that. I have
17 to say also that these friend of mine that work in
18 (inaudible) is a long-time friend of mine and (inaudible)
19 also I delivered the flowers, he said do not say anything
20 because they can take action against you and I want to put
21 this on the record because, you know, they're so powerful
22 that they can make my job disappear or make something go
23 wrong. So I'm beginning to be on the afraid -- I'm a grown
24 up man but, you know, you are afraid because we are all
25 little people to them and that's (inaudible) so I just want
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2 hope this doesn't come back.
3 Q First of all let me just alleviate your fears, you
4 are not a suspect, I am not looking at to put any charges on
5 you whatsoever. At this point you're just a witness to me
6 and that's why I just wanted to speak to you. Okay? You're
7 not a suspect. You're not in any trouble. Okay?
8 As far as Mrs. Epstein being powerful, he's just a
9 man. He puts on his pants just like you and me. Okay? The
10 fact that his checkbook is a little fatter than ours, that's
11 how it goes but that doesn't mean he's above the law. Okay?
12 And that's the extent of it. He is not a brain surgeon as
13 he's told people. He's a money man and that's it. He takes
14 money and invests money and he makes money doing it. That's
15 it. That's the extent of it. That's the extent of his
16 power. All right? So you shouldn't fear him. That's
17 basically it. He's just a man just like you and me.
18 A Yeah. I hope he doesn't take actions against me
19 because you know I can lose a main -- I have a book, sir,
20 that he used to give to (inaudible) and there are certain
21 people (inaudible). But anyway in this book is the masseuse
22 that he preferred (inaudible) contact these people.
23 Q That is something I would be very interested in.
24 I'm going to give you my card. I left one on your door when
25 I went down there.
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1 A Yes, I saw that. My wife got scared thinking
2 something happened.
3 Q Right. And I tried to explain to your wife and I
4 told her the same thing you're not in any trouble
5 whatsoever. I did want to talk to you.
6 Do you feel that you had to call the investigator?
7 Did they tell you you had to call the investigator?
8 A He told me please call back but you know now that
9 we've spoken I have all these fears that I thought I knew --
10 I didn't know. I wasn't sure exactly of the investigation
11 so I don't think I have to call him back.
12 Q You don't have to call him. You're under no
13 obligation to call him. Okay? You don't have to speak to
14 them. If they come knocking on your door you can just say
15 look, I don't want to speak to you, get off my property and
16 call me if you'd like. Call me and I'll tell him hey, he
17 doesn't want to speak to you. That's it. I don't want you
18 to feel that you have to call him. Obviously what we
19 discussed stays between us. I'd like to take a look at that
20 book. I'd be willing to drive down to Miami, take a look at
21 it and give it right back to you.
22 A I used to keep the receipt from this rental
23 company but you know it's a long time I coul throw it away
24 but I'm pretty sure I have it.
25 Q Right.
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1 A And also my signature on the checks from Lantana
2 Airport, the plane and the store that I went to.
3 Q What other stores did you go to? I mean were they
4 with you when you went to the stores?
5 A Usually he will drive around because he will stay
6 in the car. He's a person that doesn't like to be seen so
7 he will send somebody what does he like then tell Alfredo to
8 buy it for you. (Inaudible.)
9 Q Okay. Did you have to buy them negligees or under
10 garments?
11 A No. Sarah would buy something like that.
12 Q Sarah is the one that would always buy stuff like
13 that? Okay. Jewelry?
14 A No. I (inaudible) something like that.
15 (Inaudible.)
16 Q The girl you bought the flowers for, was it the
17 same girl that you rented the car for?
18 A Yes.
19 Q All right. You have my card. You know what? I'm
20 going to give you my cell phone as well. Okay? It's on
21 24/7. It's on 24 hours a day. You can call me any time you
22 want.
23 MALE SPEAKER: At this time I'll conclude
24 your statement. The time by my watch is, hold on,
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 BY MALE SPEAKER:
4 Q What I'd like you to do is raise your right hand.
5 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
6 nothing but the truth so help you God?
7 A Yes.
8 Q Okay. State your name for the record.
9 A My name is Yolanda Lopez.
10 Q Yolanda, how old are you?
11 A I'm 17.
12 Q Okay. Are you currently in school?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Where are you in school?
15 A Royal Palm Beach High.
16 Q Royal Palm Beach High?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q And how are your grades?
19 A Pretty good except for one class.
20 Q Okay. Okay. So you understand what I'm asking
21 you and what we're discussing here, correct?
22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. You're 17 years old right now.
24 A Correct.
25 Q Okay. What I want to do is obviously you have
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1 some information pertaining to a case that I'm investigating
2 to a gentleman you may know as Jeff or Jeffrey.
3 A Okay.
4 Q Okay? What I'd like you to do in your own words
5 is tell me how you came in contact for the first time with
6 Jeffrey.
7 A Okay. I used to be friends with pretty much
8 (inaudible) with Haley Robinson and very good friends with
9 Jen and Haley came up to me, approached me one day and asked
10 me if I would -- there was a job where I would massage this
11 guy Jeffrey and that's all I would have to do and I would
12 get $200 for giving him a massage.
13 Q Okay.
14 A And I was like sure. There's no strings attached.
15 She said no. I'm like okay, sure. So she called Jeff and I
16 guess the head lady who's like a personal assistant with
17 him.
18 Q Okay.
19 A And she set up an appointment for me and her to go
20 and we went over to his house one day and Haley brought me
21 up to the room, set up a massage table, (inaudible) light,
22 put on a little bit of music, set up the bed for me and just
23 told me to be comfortable and Jeffrey would come upstairs.
24 So I waited in the room, and Jeffrey came up into the room,
25 introduced himself to me, and he went out of the room and
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1 put on a towel and he laid on the bed, he told me to put on
2 this lotion and I gave him a massage. He told me where to
3 massage him. His back and his legs and hamstrings, his
4 lower back, his upper back and right in that area. So I
5 started giving him a massage and then he flipped over and
6 told me to do the front of his legs and his pec area and his
7 upper shoulders. And to do that and he asked me to get a
8 little bit more comfortable. And I asked him what do you
9 mean. He said lift off your shirt, pull down your pants.
10 And I was already wearing like a crop tank top and I'm like
11 no, I'm comfortable. And he was like okay, that's fine.
12 And then he started to move his hands down off the bed and
13 he started to touch me. He (inaudible) my legs and on my
14 butt and then he tried to go underneath my shirt and touch
15 my boob area and I was like I'm not comfortable with that.
16 And he was like oh, come on. I'm like no. I'll finish your
17 massage but that's it. And he would rub his nipples. He
18 would be like like oh, yeah. He started to rub his nipples
19 and then started to jerk off and that was (inaudible).
20 Q Okay. Haley approached you for a massage just so
21 I can get this straight, okay? She called a woman named
22 Sarah?
23 A Right.
24 Q That's the personal assistant to --
25 A Jeffrey.
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1 Q -- Jeffrey. Okay. Haley brought you up to the
2 room?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q She set up the room for you?
5 A Correct.
6 Q Jeff came into the room, introduced himself, went
7 to another room and changed?
8 A Right. Because upstairs is his bedroom.
9 Q Okay.
10 A And he left to go into his bedroom to change.
11 Q Okay.
12 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
13 Q Did he tell you his last name?
14 A No. He would never tell me his last name. He
15 would never tell me what he did for a living. He would
16 never give me personal information except for his name was
17 Jeffrey.
18 BY MALE SPEAKER:
19 Q Okay. He told you to get comfortable.
20 A Right.
21 Q Okay. What were you wearing?
22 A I was wearing a crop tank top that comes a little
23 bit above my naval and I wore a bra and pair of (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. So you did not remove any clothing?
25 A No.
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1 Q As you were massaging Jeff in the leg area, did he
2 remove his towel?
3 A He started to move the towel lower and lower and
4 then eventually he --
5 Q Had it off. He had taken it off.
6 Okay. At what point had he started to masturbate?
7 A After he started to rub his nipples and I was
8 giving him a massage on his shoulders he started to remove
9 the towel completely and that's when he started to
10 masturbate or do whatever he did.
11 Q Okay. Do you know what the meaning of masturbate
12 is?
13 A Yeah. To ejaculate.
14 Q Okay. Did you see his penis?
15 A Yes.
16 Q Okay.
17 A He made that visible too.
18 Q Okay. At what point did he reach out to try to
19 touch you?
20 A While he before he started to rub his nipples he
21 goes I'm going to touch you the way that I like to be
22 touched and I was like I don't feel comfortable that way.
23 I'm fine. I'll continue to give you a massage. I don't
24 want -- I'm very uncomfortable. Because Haley before she
25 told me if I felt uncomfortable just tell him and he'd back
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1 off. So I told him that I was uncomfortable like after he
2 started touching me and he started ejaculating after that.
3 Q Okay. He touched your buttocks?
4 A Yes.
5 Q Did he touch your vagina area?
6 A I would not let him. No.
7 Q Okay. And you mentioned your breast area.
8 A Right.
9 Q Did he try to touch your buttocks under the shorts
10 or --
11 A At first it was just outside my pants and then he
12 tried to -- I had a belt on with my jeans so he tried to go
13 inside from behind but he could not and I was like I'm not
14 comfortable.
15 Q Okay. He put his hands under your shirt?
16 A Right.
17 Q Okay. And you had a bra on, correct?
18 A Correct.
19 Q Okay. Did he go under the bra or over the bra?
20 A He didn't have enough time. I told him not to do
21 that. I was uncomfortable.
22 Q So you stopped him before he actually touched your
23 breast?
24 A Right.
25 Q Okay. And he started to begin to masturbate at
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2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Did he ejaculate?
4 A Yeah. He did. He did everything.
5 Q He finished?
6 A He finished, yeah.
7 Q That was the first time you went?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q How much did you receive?
10 A I received $200.
11 Q Okay. Was that the only time you went?
12 A I've been there a total of three times.
13 Q Okay. What happened the --
14 A The second time I went there with Haley, Vanessa
15 and this girl Jen.
16 Q Uh-huh.
17 A And me and Haley were downstairs. The staff made
18 us dinner or lunch. It was like late afternoon. We sat
19 there and I guess Jen and Jeffrey went upstairs to do
20 whatever they did and we just waited downstairs with the
21 staff and like he had supermodels there and we were talking
22 to them. They showed us around the house, they showed us
23 the car, they showed us the pool area. We were just --
24 Q So you were waiting for Jen?
25 A Right.
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1 Q Did you know if Haley took any money?
2 A Haley received money every time she brings someone
3 there. That I know for a fact. (Inaudible.)
4 Q Okay. Did she receive money for the first time
5 you went?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q The second time you went did you receive any
8 money?
9 A Nothing.
10 Q Did Haley receive money for taking Jen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I was just there because Jen's my best friend and
14 she felt more comfortable if I was there. She didn't really
15 know Haley and (inaudible) through Vanessa they were.
16 Q Okay. What about the third time?
17 A The third time it was me, Vanessa and Michelle.
18 Q Michelle?
19 A Lacotta.
20 Q Can you spell that?
21 A L-A-C-A or C-O-T-T-A.
22 Q And Haley you said?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Tell us what happened then.
25 A Michelle works with -- Haley got Michelle
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1 (inaudible) when I was with her. Told Michelle that
2 Michelle went with us and Haley went upstairs again but this
3 time Sarah was with her. Michelle and Haley went upstairs
4 and set the bed up for Michelle and we went downstairs. We
5 were waiting and we were just talking to Sarah. We were
6 talking Haley in the other room (inaudible) and magazines.
7 There was like a whole bunch of nude pictures all over the
8 house.
9 Q Okay. The third time you went you didn't do
10 anything?
11 A No. I only did it once.
12 Q Did you receive any money for recruiting Michelle?
13 A Yeah. I received a hundred dollars.
14 Q You did. You were given a hundred dollars?
15 A Uh-huh.
16 Q Do you have Michelle's phone number?
17 A I don't speak to her anymore. I could get it if
18 you want me to get it for you.
19 Q No, I'll find it.
20 The third time you went you saw Sarah and Haley
21 take Michelle to the room?
22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. Did Haley come back down?
24 A Yes. Jeffrey doesn't allow anybody else inside
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2 A You and him.
3 Q Okay. And you received a hundred dollars to bring
4 Michelle?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q Okay. Real quick, just want to go over on the
7 second or third time, you never went upstairs?
8 A No.
9 Q You waited downstairs.
10 The first time that you went up there --
11 A Correct.
12 Q -- did he ever touch you?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Aside from --
15 A Oh, no.
16 Q -- what you told me? Did he ever touch your
17 vagina area?
18 A No.
19 Q The breast area aside from what you told me?
20 A No.
21 Q Didn't go under the bra?
22 A No.
23 Q Did he ever pull you in close to him?
24 A Yes. He had done that. He would wrap your arms
25 around him. Like he'd wrap your arm from behind and he'd
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2 Q Okay. Can you describe him a little bit to me?
3 A He was very --
4 MS. SICILIANO: It's hard to describe him.
5 THE WITNESS: Yeah. Very --
6 MS. SICILIANO: I would say he's (inaudible).
7 DETECTIVE DAWSON: Let her --
8 MS. SICILIANO: I've seen him.
9 DETECTIVE DAWSON: I know but we'll get
10 (inaudible).
11 MS. SICILIANO:
12 THE WITNESS: He was -- he's just a fricking
13 pervert. I don't know what the hell he is. He's
14 a weirdo. He has pictures of his family naked,
15 children naked, some others naked, models naked.
16 He always has girls there constantly. He's
17 basically a sugar daddy. My perception is he
18 looks like a sugar daddy. He has gray hair. He
19 works out so he's in good physical condition. He
20 has hair on his chest and his back. He's probably
21 about maybe six foot one. (Inaudible) way sort
22 of. He would never discuss what he does for a
23 living. From Haley and everybody else like my
24 friends who talked to him he said that he's a
25 scientist. He invented things. He's done stocks.
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2 so he keeps to himself after he's done.
3 (Inaudible.) He does whatever he does and then he
4 (inaudible) the money for you.
5 BY MALE SPEAKER:
6 Q Did he have the money out for you prior to or when
7 you were -- when the massage was done?
8 A When the massage was done.
9 Q On your way out?
10 A Right.
11 Q Okay. When he finished, did he use the towel to
12 clean himself or --
13 A He got up in the room there's two showers.
14 There's like a steam room and then there's a shower so as
15 soon as he got -- as soon as he's done he got up and went
16 into the shower/steam room or whatever.
17 Q Do you know the difference between circumcised and
18 not circumcised?
19 A Yes. He was circumcised?
20 Q He is?
21 A Yes.
22 Q What is your definition?
23 A Where the foreskin hasn't been cut off and where
24 covers the actual head of the penis. Where you are
25 circumcised the head is sewn. You don't have to pull back
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2 Q Okay. So he is or he is not?
3 A He is circumcised.
4 Q He is circumcised.
5 At the conclusion of the massage and you went to
6 the other room, you have the money, what happened after
7 that?
8 A I grabbed the money and I left to go with
9 (inaudible). They asked me what's wrong and I was like
10 nothing, let's just go. And I felt like a disgrace. I felt
11 really dirty. I felt bad about myself as a human. I was
12 only 16 years old at the time and I felt like, you know, the
13 whole time I was there I was like I'm really nervous, I
14 repeated that to Haley. She said don't worry, he's not
15 going to do anything, there's no strings attached, so I said
16 let's just get out of here. Let's go. Let's leave. And we
17 left.
18 Q Did he ask for your age?
19 A No.
20 Q No.
21 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
22 Q When was this? Do you remember?
23 A It was like probably around September/November
24 because my boyfriend (inaudible).
25 MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
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2 Q (Inaudible)?
3 A Oh, yeah.
4 BY MALE SPEAKER:
5 Q Did Haley ever explain to you on your way over
6 there what was expected from you?
7 A No. Never told me. She said that all I had to do
8 was just give a massage. I didn't have to do anything. No
9 strings attached. That's all I had to do and I would
10 receive $200 for giving give him a massage.
11 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to get
12 naked?
13 A No.
14 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to
15 remove some clothing?
16 A She told me he would ask me to get comfortable.
17 That's it.
18 Q Okay. And what did you think she meant when she
19 said comfortable?
20 A I did think, you know, I would have to remove
21 articles of clothing but to feel comfortable with him with
22 have a conversation with him, keep talking to him so I
23 wouldn't be so nervous, and he'd get to know me and like me
24 because if he doesn't like you he doesn't pay you.
25 Q Okay. Did you ever use any sex toys? Did he have
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2 A No.
3 Q Have you had any contact with Sarah, Haley, or
4 anyone from the house?
5 A No. I don't talk to Haley. Me and Haley don't
6 like each other.
7 MS. SICILIANO: (Inaudible.)
8 THE WITNESS: I only talk to them like
9 whenever I see her out and about like downtown I
10 say what's up. That's it. But I never -- I've
11 only met Sarah once. I've never actually had a
12 full-blown conversation with Sarah. I only know
13 about Sarah and what she does. How she lives
14 there and how she's the personal assistant for him
15 and how she gets to call Haley or whoever else is
16 like the main girl to get girls.
17 BY MALE SPEAKER:
18 Q Okay. Everything you've told me has been true and
19 correct to the best of your knowledge?
20 A Correct.
21 Q Just for the record, in the room we're located at
22 108 Gibraltar (phonetic) Street, Royal Palm Beach. Present
23 in the room is myself ID number 7915 Detective (inaudible)
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2 For the record, Jennifer, can you spell your last
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4 MS. SICILIANO: S-I-C-I-L-I-A-N-O.
5 BY MALE SPEAKER:
6 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
7 add to this?
8 THE WITNESS: That's it.
9 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. At this time I'm going
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From: jeffrey epstein <littlestjeff@yahoo.com>
To: mike tein <tein@lewistein.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:04:33 PM
Subject: Fw: In Re: Jeffrey Epstein - 7 Taped Interview
you need to read these side by side, with the incident reports . especially rodriquez
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jessica Cadwell <jcadwell@agwpa.com>
To: Gerald Lefcourt <GBL@lefcourtlaw.com>
Cc: littlestjeff@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:35:21 PM
Subject: Fw: In Re: Jeffrey Epstein - 7 Taped Interview
From: Jessica Cadwell <jcadwell@agwpa.com>
To: Gerald Lefcourt <GBL@lefcourtlaw.com>
Cc: littlestjeff@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:35:21 PM
Subject: Fw: In Re: Jeffrey Epstein - 7 Taped Interview
Here's what I have so far. Jeffrey just called so i am cc him on this e-mail. Let me know if you guys have trouble opening this. Thanks
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: In Re: Jeffrey Epstein - 7 Taped Interview
Sorry about that Jessica
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1 IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN
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23 Sandy Rossi
Notary Public, State of Florida
24 Consor and Associates
Phone - 561.682.0905
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 BY MALE SPEAKER:
4 Q -- say nothing but the truth so help you God?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q All right. So tell me from the beginning as far
7 as when you met Mr. Epstein.
8 A As soon as (inaudible) house. I'm like what are
9 you guys talking about? And I hadn't really hung out with
10 them. I was kind of the (inaudible) and they were telling
11 me about this guy and they would go and give him massages
12 and he'd pay them $200 for giving a massage an hour. And
13 they said do you want to do it and I'm like yeah, $200 for
14 an hour, let's go. So I think about a week later I had gone
15 with (inaudible) and it was me and her and we were with him
16 and it was kind of weird because he's naked but she's like
17 oh, he's always like that, don't worry about it. And then
18 we just gave him a massage and he gave her $200 and he gave
19 me $300 and he asked me to come back. So I'm like okay. I
20 came back about probably five or six times.
21 Q Okay. He gave you 300 to do a massage, right?
22 A Uh-huh.
23 Q Okay. And that was about a year ago?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. You were approached about this by Faith and
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1 (inaudible)?
2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Okay. (Inaudible), what's her last name?
4 A Valdez or Vas -- I don't know. It starts with a
5 V.
6 Q Okay. All right. Let's start back from the
7 beginning on the massage. He was naked on the massage?
8 A Yes, with a towel over him.
9 Q Okay. How were you dressed when you were
10 providing the massage?
11 A I think jeans and a tank top.
12 Q Jeans and a tank top. At any time did he ask you
13 to remove your clothing?
14 A He did probably about the second time that I went
15 there and I gave him a massage in my underwear.
16 Q Just in your underwear? Okay.
17 A That's why I stopped going because he said if you
18 start to feel comfortable just don't come for more.
19 Q Okay. When you were giving him the massage, where
20 did the massage take place?
21 A Like if you go upstairs into his bedroom like his
22 bathroom I guess like there's this big room with like a
23 sauna and a shower and in there.
24 Q Okay. Were there tables already set up?
25 A Sometimes they were already set up and then
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1 sometimes when we went up there there's like a little closet
2 and the table is in the closet and we'd bring it out and set
3 it up.
4 Q Did you set it up or --
5 A Yes.
6 Q -- did somebody else set it up for you?
7 A Sometimes it was already set up when we got there.
8 Q Okay.
9 A Sometimes I had to set it up.
10 Q Okay. How were you taken to the bedroom area?
11 A Usually Sarah would lead you up but after you were
12 there a couple times she'd say go on up.
13 Q Okay. And you went what, five or six times?
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Okay. All right. Let's get back to your first
16 massage you gave. He was wrapped in a towel.
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Okay. At any time did he take off the towel?
19 A Only when he got up and put a robe around him.
20 Q Okay. During the time you were providing him a
21 massage, did he ever touch himself?
22 A No. He was laying on his stomach.
23 Q Laying on his stomach the entire time?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay.
3 A But not the first time.
4 Q Not the first time. You just his massaged his --
5 A His legs and his feet the first time.
6 Q Okay.
7 A (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. So the first time Shazy (phonetic) and you
9 did the massage?
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Okay. All right. And you were completely
12 clothed?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. Did he touch you --
15 A No.
16 Q -- during the massage?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Was there any massagers slash vibrators
19 introduced into the massage?
20 A No. Just like he had like this massage cream from
21 Bath and Body Works. That's it. And I'd use that.
22 Q Okay. When the second time you went, how did you,
23 how were you contacted?
24 A Asked -- when he asked -- when he gave me $300 and
25 asked me to come back I had left him my cell phone number.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A And Sarah called me and told me that Jeff had
3 wanted me to come back and then I went down there.
4 Q Okay. Do you recall when this was?
5 A No. I know it started like this time last year
6 because I think about January is the last time I went when I
7 met my boyfriend and he didn't want me going down there.
8 Q So January of this year was the last time you
9 went?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Okay. All right. So she called you and tells you
12 to come --
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q -- tells you to come to the house to provide, to
15 work?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Did anything happen during that massage?
18 A No. The only thing he ever did was he tried to
19 grab my butt and I told him I didn't feel comfortable with
20 that and he always said that if you didn't feel comfortable
21 just to let him know.
22 Q Was that on the second massage?
23 A No. Probably about towards the end because
24 (inaudible) massage.
25 Q Okay.
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1 A That's when (inaudible) and then after that is
2 when I started feeling uncomfortable with it because he was
3 like why don't you take that off and I was like no. Just he
4 never said (inaudible) did anything. So he was trying to
5 talk me into it I didn't feel comfortable with it.
6 Q Okay. So you recall both -- the first two times?
7 A Uh-huh.
8 Q Did he touch himself during the second massage?
9 A I don't remember. He would sometimes.
10 Q What do you mean?
11 A Well not -- like towards the end when I was in my
12 underwear like sometimes when I would be rubbing his chest
13 then he would.
14 Q Okay. Did he do it on the second time you went?
15 A No.
16 Q Okay. The third time you went, how were you
17 contacted to go?
18 A Sarah called me again.
19 Q Sarah called you again?
20 Okay. When you got there he asked you to remove
21 your clothing?
22 A Yeah.
23 Q Okay. When you say panties, were they normal
24 panties or were they --
25 A A thong.
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1 Q A thong.
2 Okay. You provided the massage?
3 A Uh-huh.
4 Q And this was the first time he had you rub his
5 chest?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. While you were rubbing his chest, did he
8 masturbate?
9 A Yes. But this is towards the end.
10 Q Okay. Towards the end of the massage?
11 A No, like towards like the last time I went there.
12 Q Okay.
13 A But yeah, it was towards the end of the massage
14 also. Would you like something to drink?
15 Q No, I'm good. I'm good.
16 A Okay. I've lost all my manners.
17 Q That's all right. Do you know if he climaxed?
18 A I don't know. He still had the towel over him.
19 Q He never removed the towel?
20 A No. Judging by the (inaudible) I think that he
21 did but I never asked if he did.
22 Q And do you know what I mean when I say
23 masturbate --
24 A Yes.
25 Q -- and climax?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay. All right. So each time you went to the
3 house, at what point did he try to escalate to more than
4 just a massage?
5 A They would say it was a normal massage and he'd
6 like sit down and talk to you and stuff and then he'd be
7 like all right, well come here and do this and do that and
8 he's like if you told him no he wouldn't, you know, he
9 wouldn't make a big deal out of it. If you told him you
10 felt uncomfortable about anything then --
11 Q Okay. When did he grab your buttocks?
12 A I don't know. One of the times during a massage.
13 Q Okay. Did he ever grab more than just your
14 buttocks?
15 A No, because I made it clear when he did that that
16 I was very uncomfortable and I left.
17 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your breast?
18 A No.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your vagina area?
20 A No.
21 Q Okay. Did he ever bring out any kind of sexual
22 toys?
23 A No.
24 Q When was the last time you were contacted by
25 anybody (inaudible)?
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1 A The last time I went there because I told him I
2 wasn't coming back.
3 Q Okay. So January 2005 approximately?
4 A Yes.
5 Q The very last time you went did he continue like
6 when you were giving him a massage masturbate?
7 A No, because I was giving him the massage and he
8 had a clock on the sink and I was looking at the clock and
9 he said why do you keep looking at the clock and I was like
10 I don't know and I was like because my boyfriend is waiting
11 to come pick me up and he's like well, he's like he said
12 you're supposed to make me enjoy my massage right now.
13 Could you please stop looking at the clock. And I was just
14 like well, and he's like if you don't want to do this then
15 you don't have to do this and that's when I told him I don't
16 want to come back anymore because I really don't feel
17 comfortable and, you know, my boyfriend doesn't like that
18 I'm coming here. And then that was it and I haven't spoken
19 to him since.
20 Q On top of the $300 did he ever offer you more
21 money?
22 A No. He gave me money for Christmas. He Western
23 Unioned I think it was $200 as a Christmas present but other
24 than that, that's it.
25 Q Last Christmas?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Which Western Union did you pick that up at?
3 A The one in Royal Palm and Okeechobee. I think
4 it's The Check Cashing Store. There's a Western Union
5 there.
6 Q Okay. Did you ever take anybody to the house?
7 A No. (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. Was there anybody else in the room when you
9 were providing massage --
10 A No.
11 Q -- aside from Shazy?
12 A Aside from Shazy, no.
13 Q Okay. No other assistants?
14 A No.
15 Q Okay. Did he ever offer you monies to go
16 further --
17 A No.
18 Q -- than just a massage?
19 Okay. How old were you when you first went there?
20 A Seventeen.
21 Q Seventeen.
22 A And I was 17 the last time I went there too. I
23 turned 18 this past June.
24 Q When do you turn 18?
25 A June that just passed.
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1 Q June that just passed? Did Shazy ever tell you
2 that you would have to provide the massage naked or --
3 A No. They just told me that we were going to do a
4 massage.
5 Q You were attending Royal Palm Beach High School --
6 A Yes.
7 Q -- okay, at the time?
8 A (Inaudible). I kind of dropped out right in the
9 middle.
10 Q Okay. Did you ever finish school?
11 A No. Actually tomorrow is my GED test.
12 Q Good luck with that.
13 A Thank you. I fell in love, moved to Jupiter, it's
14 going to last forever, blah, blah, blah.
15 Q This is the guy that didn't want you going back
16 anymore?
17 A Yeah. Yeah.
18 Q You guys aren't together anymore?
19 A It's off and on. We were together off and on for
20 nine years so...
21 Q I guess the best thing he did was have you stop
22 going.
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Is there anything else you would like to add?
25 A No. I actually have some questions as to what's
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1 going on with this.
2 Q Well, this is an ongoing investigation. We
3 received a complaint and we're following it up. Obviously
4 based on the questions that I've asked you, you can pretty
5 much figure out what this is --
6 A He's definitely in custody?
7 Q Not at this time. But this is an ongoing
8 investigation so I would appreciate that if anybody contacts
9 you, I know that friends have been calling each other and
10 telling them oh my God, there's a cop here, whatever, asking
11 me questions.
12 A Yeah, this is Royal Palm. That's big news in this
13 little town.
14 Q Well, I would appreciate it if you didn't, you
15 know, say anything what we discussed. Especially if Faith
16 calls you or anybody else calls you, you could say that I
17 was here and if they have any questions they can give me a
18 call. Obviously if anybody from the Jeffrey's house calls
19 you I'd also appreciate it if you call back and let me know.
20 A Okay.
21 Q All right?
22 A All right.
23 MALE SPEAKER: At this time I'm going to go
24 ahead and conclude this tape. The time on my
25 watch is 12:45.
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Florida at Large, certify that I was authorized to
6 and did stenographically report the forgoing
proceedings, and that the transcript is a true and
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Notary Public, State of Florida
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Phone - 561.682.0905
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
2 - - -
3 BY MALE SPEAKER:
4 Q -- say nothing but the truth so help you God?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q All right. So tell me from the beginning as far
7 as when you met Mr. Epstein.
8 A As soon as (inaudible) house. I'm like what are
9 you guys talking about? And I hadn't really hung out with
10 them. I was kind of the (inaudible) and they were telling
11 me about this guy and they would go and give him massages
12 and he'd pay them $200 for giving a massage an hour. And
13 they said do you want to do it and I'm like yeah, $200 for
14 an hour, let's go. So I think about a week later I had gone
15 with (inaudible) and it was me and her and we were with him
16 and it was kind of weird because he's naked but she's like
17 oh, he's always like that, don't worry about it. And then
18 we just gave him a massage and he gave her $200 and he gave
19 me $300 and he asked me to come back. So I'm like okay. I
20 came back about probably five or six times.
21 Q Okay. He gave you 300 to do a massage, right?
22 A Uh-huh.
23 Q Okay. And that was about a year ago?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. You were approached about this by Faith and
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1 (inaudible)?
2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Okay. (Inaudible), what's her last name?
4 A Valdez or Vas -- I don't know. It starts with a
5 V.
6 Q Okay. All right. Let's start back from the
7 beginning on the massage. He was naked on the massage?
8 A Yes, with a towel over him.
9 Q Okay. How were you dressed when you were
10 providing the massage?
11 A I think jeans and a tank top.
12 Q Jeans and a tank top. At any time did he ask you
13 to remove your clothing?
14 A He did probably about the second time that I went
15 there and I gave him a massage in my underwear.
16 Q Just in your underwear? Okay.
17 A That's why I stopped going because he said if you
18 start to feel comfortable just don't come for more.
19 Q Okay. When you were giving him the massage, where
20 did the massage take place?
21 A Like if you go upstairs into his bedroom like his
22 bathroom I guess like there's this big room with like a
23 sauna and a shower and in there.
24 Q Okay. Were there tables already set up?
25 A Sometimes they were already set up and then
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1 sometimes when we went up there there's like a little closet
2 and the table is in the closet and we'd bring it out and set
3 it up.
4 Q Did you set it up or --
5 A Yes.
6 Q -- did somebody else set it up for you?
7 A Sometimes it was already set up when we got there.
8 Q Okay.
9 A Sometimes I had to set it up.
10 Q Okay. How were you taken to the bedroom area?
11 A Usually Sarah would lead you up but after you were
12 there a couple times she'd say go on up.
13 Q Okay. And you went what, five or six times?
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Okay. All right. Let's get back to your first
16 massage you gave. He was wrapped in a towel.
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Okay. At any time did he take off the towel?
19 A Only when he got up and put a robe around him.
20 Q Okay. During the time you were providing him a
21 massage, did he ever touch himself?
22 A No. He was laying on his stomach.
23 Q Laying on his stomach the entire time?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay.
3 A But not the first time.
4 Q Not the first time. You just his massaged his --
5 A His legs and his feet the first time.
6 Q Okay.
7 A (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. So the first time Shazy (phonetic) and you
9 did the massage?
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Okay. All right. And you were completely
12 clothed?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. Did he touch you --
15 A No.
16 Q -- during the massage?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Was there any massagers slash vibrators
19 introduced into the massage?
20 A No. Just like he had like this massage cream from
21 Bath and Body Works. That's it. And I'd use that.
22 Q Okay. When the second time you went, how did you,
23 how were you contacted?
24 A Asked -- when he asked -- when he gave me $300 and
25 asked me to come back I had left him my cell phone number.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A And Sarah called me and told me that Jeff had
3 wanted me to come back and then I went down there.
4 Q Okay. Do you recall when this was?
5 A No. I know it started like this time last year
6 because I think about January is the last time I went when I
7 met my boyfriend and he didn't want me going down there.
8 Q So January of this year was the last time you
9 went?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Okay. All right. So she called you and tells you
12 to come --
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q -- tells you to come to the house to provide, to
15 work?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Did anything happen during that massage?
18 A No. The only thing he ever did was he tried to
19 grab my butt and I told him I didn't feel comfortable with
20 that and he always said that if you didn't feel comfortable
21 just to let him know.
22 Q Was that on the second massage?
23 A No. Probably about towards the end because
24 (inaudible) massage.
25 Q Okay.
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1 A That's when (inaudible) and then after that is
2 when I started feeling uncomfortable with it because he was
3 like why don't you take that off and I was like no. Just he
4 never said (inaudible) did anything. So he was trying to
5 talk me into it I didn't feel comfortable with it.
6 Q Okay. So you recall both -- the first two times?
7 A Uh-huh.
8 Q Did he touch himself during the second massage?
9 A I don't remember. He would sometimes.
10 Q What do you mean?
11 A Well not -- like towards the end when I was in my
12 underwear like sometimes when I would be rubbing his chest
13 then he would.
14 Q Okay. Did he do it on the second time you went?
15 A No.
16 Q Okay. The third time you went, how were you
17 contacted to go?
18 A Sarah called me again.
19 Q Sarah called you again?
20 Okay. When you got there he asked you to remove
21 your clothing?
22 A Yeah.
23 Q Okay. When you say panties, were they normal
24 panties or were they --
25 A A thong.
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1 Q A thong.
2 Okay. You provided the massage?
3 A Uh-huh.
4 Q And this was the first time he had you rub his
5 chest?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. While you were rubbing his chest, did he
8 masturbate?
9 A Yes. But this is towards the end.
10 Q Okay. Towards the end of the massage?
11 A No, like towards like the last time I went there.
12 Q Okay.
13 A But yeah, it was towards the end of the massage
14 also. Would you like something to drink?
15 Q No, I'm good. I'm good.
16 A Okay. I've lost all my manners.
17 Q That's all right. Do you know if he climaxed?
18 A I don't know. He still had the towel over him.
19 Q He never removed the towel?
20 A No. Judging by the (inaudible) I think that he
21 did but I never asked if he did.
22 Q And do you know what I mean when I say
23 masturbate --
24 A Yes.
25 Q -- and climax?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay. All right. So each time you went to the
3 house, at what point did he try to escalate to more than
4 just a massage?
5 A They would say it was a normal massage and he'd
6 like sit down and talk to you and stuff and then he'd be
7 like all right, well come here and do this and do that and
8 he's like if you told him no he wouldn't, you know, he
9 wouldn't make a big deal out of it. If you told him you
10 felt uncomfortable about anything then --
11 Q Okay. When did he grab your buttocks?
12 A I don't know. One of the times during a massage.
13 Q Okay. Did he ever grab more than just your
14 buttocks?
15 A No, because I made it clear when he did that that
16 I was very uncomfortable and I left.
17 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your breast?
18 A No.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your vagina area?
20 A No.
21 Q Okay. Did he ever bring out any kind of sexual
22 toys?
23 A No.
24 Q When was the last time you were contacted by
25 anybody (inaudible)?
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1 A The last time I went there because I told him I
2 wasn't coming back.
3 Q Okay. So January 2005 approximately?
4 A Yes.
5 Q The very last time you went did he continue like
6 when you were giving him a massage masturbate?
7 A No, because I was giving him the massage and he
8 had a clock on the sink and I was looking at the clock and
9 he said why do you keep looking at the clock and I was like
10 I don't know and I was like because my boyfriend is waiting
11 to come pick me up and he's like well, he's like he said
12 you're supposed to make me enjoy my massage right now.
13 Could you please stop looking at the clock. And I was just
14 like well, and he's like if you don't want to do this then
15 you don't have to do this and that's when I told him I don't
16 want to come back anymore because I really don't feel
17 comfortable and, you know, my boyfriend doesn't like that
18 I'm coming here. And then that was it and I haven't spoken
19 to him since.
20 Q On top of the $300 did he ever offer you more
21 money?
22 A No. He gave me money for Christmas. He Western
23 Unioned I think it was $200 as a Christmas present but other
24 than that, that's it.
25 Q Last Christmas?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Which Western Union did you pick that up at?
3 A The one in Royal Palm and Okeechobee. I think
4 it's The Check Cashing Store. There's a Western Union
5 there.
6 Q Okay. Did you ever take anybody to the house?
7 A No. (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. Was there anybody else in the room when you
9 were providing massage --
10 A No.
11 Q -- aside from Shazy?
12 A Aside from Shazy, no.
13 Q Okay. No other assistants?
14 A No.
15 Q Okay. Did he ever offer you monies to go
16 further --
17 A No.
18 Q -- than just a massage?
19 Okay. How old were you when you first went there?
20 A Seventeen.
21 Q Seventeen.
22 A And I was 17 the last time I went there too. I
23 turned 18 this past June.
24 Q When do you turn 18?
25 A June that just passed.
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1 Q June that just passed? Did Shazy ever tell you
2 that you would have to provide the massage naked or --
3 A No. They just told me that we were going to do a
4 massage.
5 Q You were attending Royal Palm Beach High School --
6 A Yes.
7 Q -- okay, at the time?
8 A (Inaudible). I kind of dropped out right in the
9 middle.
10 Q Okay. Did you ever finish school?
11 A No. Actually tomorrow is my GED test.
12 Q Good luck with that.
13 A Thank you. I fell in love, moved to Jupiter, it's
14 going to last forever, blah, blah, blah.
15 Q This is the guy that didn't want you going back
16 anymore?
17 A Yeah. Yeah.
18 Q You guys aren't together anymore?
19 A It's off and on. We were together off and on for
20 nine years so...
21 Q I guess the best thing he did was have you stop
22 going.
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Is there anything else you would like to add?
25 A No. I actually have some questions as to what's
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1 going on with this.
2 Q Well, this is an ongoing investigation. We
3 received a complaint and we're following it up. Obviously
4 based on the questions that I've asked you, you can pretty
5 much figure out what this is --
6 A He's definitely in custody?
7 Q Not at this time. But this is an ongoing
8 investigation so I would appreciate that if anybody contacts
9 you, I know that friends have been calling each other and
10 telling them oh my God, there's a cop here, whatever, asking
11 me questions.
12 A Yeah, this is Royal Palm. That's big news in this
13 little town.
14 Q Well, I would appreciate it if you didn't, you
15 know, say anything what we discussed. Especially if Faith
16 calls you or anybody else calls you, you could say that I
17 was here and if they have any questions they can give me a
18 call. Obviously if anybody from the Jeffrey's house calls
19 you I'd also appreciate it if you call back and let me know.
20 A Okay.
21 Q All right?
22 A All right.
23 MALE SPEAKER: At this time I'm going to go
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4 Q 2005. This is (inaudible) number 7915. I'm
5 Detective (inaudible) Kerry (phonetic). Present with me is
6 Detective Sandman. We are taking a statement from Serina
7 Figueroa. Can you spell your last name for me?
8 A F-I-G-U-E-R-O-A.
9 Q Okay. Serina, I just explained to you that my
10 purpose of speaking with you is that of a witness.
11 Basically in your own words I'd like for you to tell me how
12 you came in contact with this gentleman named Jeff. But
13 before we do anything, raise your right hand for me. Do you
14 solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
15 nothing but the truth so help you God?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Okay. Just start from the beginning just so I
18 can --
19 A Okay. Well Haley and me, we were really good
20 friends and we were just hanging out one day and she was
21 like hey, you know, I met this guy and I was wondering if
22 you wanted to make some money. And I was like well, for
23 what? Because I didn't know. She's like well, all you have
24 to do is like massage him for like 200 bucks and I was like
25 what? I was like no. All the time, they would ask me all
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1 the time and I never would. But finally she's like all
2 right, will you go over there with me and I was like all
3 right, I'll go. House on Palm Beach Island, why the hell
4 not. I didn't see anything wrong with it.
5 So I went and I sat in the kitchen. I talked to
6 this cook. I wanted to go like upstairs with her but since
7 I wasn't working I was not allowed to go anywhere out of
8 that kitchen. I wasn't allowed to walk around. I wasn't
9 allowed upstairs. Wasn't allowed.
10 Q When did this first happen?
11 A I would say like last year sometime. Like maybe
12 around --
13 Q About a year ago?
14 A About a year ago.
15 Q Okay. All right. And you went and you sat in the
16 kitchen?
17 A Yep.
18 Q So you met with the cook?
19 A Yes. Young guy.
20 Q What's his name? Do you remember?
21 A I do not remember.
22 Q Okay. How many times do you think you've been to
23 that house?
24 A I'd say about four or five.
25 Q Four or five times?
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1 A Uh-huh.
2 Q Now when you went there, obviously you didn't go
3 work for him --
4 A Right.
5 Q -- as they call it. Who did the work the time
6 that you went?
7 A The girls. I went with Haley, I went with Jen.
8 Q Jen as in --
9 A Jen Siciliano.
10 Q Okay.
11 A And this girl Joanna Harrison.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I never went with anyone else.
14 Q You didn't go with anybody else?
15 A No.
16 Q When you went with Haley, did Haley do the work?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Okay. Do you recall a person by the name of Sage
19 (phonetic)?
20 A Yeah.
21 Q Okay. You went with Sage?
22 A I didn't go with her. I was there the day Haley
23 brought her.
24 Q Okay.
25 A Me and Haley both sat in the kitchen that day.
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1 Q Okay. So Sage is the one that worked?
2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Each girl that you went with, Jennifer,
4 Joanna, Sage, they're the ones that did the work?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q And Haley sat in the kitchen?
7 A That one day.
8 Q And do you recall any conversations in the car
9 with either Jennifer, Joanna or Sage that Haley may have had
10 with them as far as what to expect?
11 A I think I remember Haley telling Sage that if he
12 tells you hey, you know what I mean, if you want to do
13 anything else you're still free to say no, you know what I
14 mean? He will -- something to the extent we're like hey, if
15 he's like will you do this feel free to say no and he'll be
16 okay with it pretty much.
17 Q Okay. And what you mean by he wants to do this,
18 it's more than a massage?
19 A Right.
20 Q Okay. What do you know of that goes on up in the
21 massaging or --
22 A Nobody ever wanted to tell me anything. Just that
23 they were giving massages and that was it. I didn't even
24 want to really know too much.
25 Q Okay. Obviously this was like a little clique,
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1 you guys in the little Royal Palm Beach High School
2 clique --
3 A Yeah.
4 Q -- based on what I found out.
5 A Right.
6 Q Did Haley ever receive money for taking people?
7 A Yes, she did. Every time she brought a girl she
8 made an automatic $200.
9 Q $200.
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Who paid her?
12 A I believe it was Jeff.
13 Q Jeff pays her? Did you ever make any money for
14 going with her?
15 A Never one. I never even really talked to him.
16 Like he came down twice I think just to say hello and that
17 was pretty much it. He shook my hand and that was it.
18 Q Okay. Who else that you know of might have come
19 to the house?
20 A I know a lot of girls that went there. Sage,
21 Lauren, Lauren Murphy, Vanessa (inaudible). I'm trying to
22 think. Nicole (inaudible).
23 Q Okay.
24 A I can't remember anybody else.
25 Q And did Haley take these people as well?
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1 A Yeah. I'm pretty sure.
2 Q Okay.
3 A She's the one that told us all about it.
4 Q How do you think Haley met him?
5 A I have no idea.
6 Q No?
7 A I think I asked her once but I don't know. Me and
8 Haley don't talk anymore. We haven't talked for a while.
9 No idea.
10 Q Okay. During the drive, was there anybody out of
11 the three that you recall Jennifer, Joanna, Sage, aside from
12 what was said, did she say if you do this, you get this, if
13 you do that, you get this, the more you do, the more you get
14 paid?
15 A No. She never said anything like that. She just
16 said that you get 200 bucks for like a massage. That was
17 pretty much it. Nothing else. She never said anything like
18 sexual.
19 Q Okay.
20 A I had a feeling she was lying about her age and --
21 Q Who?
22 A Sage.
23 Q Sage was?
24 A Uh-huh.
25 Q Do you know her last name?
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1 A I have no idea. I remember her telling us she's a
2 twin but...
3 Q How old were these people when they went?
4 Obviously they were in high school.
5 A Right. I'd say between 16, 17 years old.
6 Q Why do you think she was lying about her age?
7 A Because she just looked really young. She was
8 really confused about what was going on. I just -- she just
9 had 200 -- she was just like wow. You know? She just
10 looked really young. Things about her.
11 Q Really?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she was?
14 A I think she said she was 17 and I think she looked
15 like she was like 15. Fifteen.
16 Q Okay. Does she still go to Royal Palm High
17 School?
18 A I have no idea. I'm not there anymore.
19 Q Okay. Okay. Did you ever meet any of his
20 assistants?
21 A One girl. I forget her name but she's what do you
22 call it? Like a secretary. She answered all his phone
23 calls. Really pretty girl. Really pretty blond girl. She
24 was a model. I don't remember what her name was.
25 Q Okay. All right.
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1 A She was very nice. Really, really, really nice.
2 Q Out of the four or five times that you went, three
3 of these girls worked and Haley worked the rest?
4 A Yeah. Pretty much. The only time I really went
5 was with Haley so I went with -- see she was like always
6 there all the time, Haley. She'd come with me and Jen, she
7 was with me and Joanna and then the one time with, you know,
8 Sage. They always asked me to work. I never did. Never.
9 I couldn't. There's just something wrong about that. You
10 know, I'm not stupid.
11 Q Do you know if any of these girls had any formal
12 massage training?
13 A No. I don't think so.
14 Q No? Not hard to figure that out?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
17 add to the statement?
18 A No. I'm just upset. That's all I know.
19 Q Before I end this, just real quick, I just changed
20 my mind, how long ago did Jennifer Siciliano go?
21 A I'd say about a year ago too.
22 Q A year?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Joanna?
25 A Probably about the same time. I haven't seen any
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2 are still friends but I haven't heard about Jeffrey in about
3 a year.
4 Q Okay. What about Sage?
5 A Yep. About a year ago.
6 Q Year ago? Okay. Okay. Well, at this time I'm
7 going to go ahead and conclude this statement. Again, I
8 appreciate you meeting with me.
9 A Thank you.
10 Q Do you have any questions?
11 A Nope.
12 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. At this time I'm going
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4 Q 2005. This is (inaudible) number 7915. I'm
5 Detective (inaudible) Kerry (phonetic). Present with me is
6 Detective Sandman. We are taking a statement from Serina
7 Figueroa. Can you spell your last name for me?
8 A F-I-G-U-E-R-O-A.
9 Q Okay. Serina, I just explained to you that my
10 purpose of speaking with you is that of a witness.
11 Basically in your own words I'd like for you to tell me how
12 you came in contact with this gentleman named Jeff. But
13 before we do anything, raise your right hand for me. Do you
14 solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
15 nothing but the truth so help you God?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Okay. Just start from the beginning just so I
18 can --
19 A Okay. Well Haley and me, we were really good
20 friends and we were just hanging out one day and she was
21 like hey, you know, I met this guy and I was wondering if
22 you wanted to make some money. And I was like well, for
23 what? Because I didn't know. She's like well, all you have
24 to do is like massage him for like 200 bucks and I was like
25 what? I was like no. All the time, they would ask me all
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1 the time and I never would. But finally she's like all
2 right, will you go over there with me and I was like all
3 right, I'll go. House on Palm Beach Island, why the hell
4 not. I didn't see anything wrong with it.
5 So I went and I sat in the kitchen. I talked to
6 this cook. I wanted to go like upstairs with her but since
7 I wasn't working I was not allowed to go anywhere out of
8 that kitchen. I wasn't allowed to walk around. I wasn't
9 allowed upstairs. Wasn't allowed.
10 Q When did this first happen?
11 A I would say like last year sometime. Like maybe
12 around --
13 Q About a year ago?
14 A About a year ago.
15 Q Okay. All right. And you went and you sat in the
16 kitchen?
17 A Yep.
18 Q So you met with the cook?
19 A Yes. Young guy.
20 Q What's his name? Do you remember?
21 A I do not remember.
22 Q Okay. How many times do you think you've been to
23 that house?
24 A I'd say about four or five.
25 Q Four or five times?
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1 A Uh-huh.
2 Q Now when you went there, obviously you didn't go
3 work for him --
4 A Right.
5 Q -- as they call it. Who did the work the time
6 that you went?
7 A The girls. I went with Haley, I went with Jen.
8 Q Jen as in --
9 A Jen Siciliano.
10 Q Okay.
11 A And this girl Joanna Harrison.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I never went with anyone else.
14 Q You didn't go with anybody else?
15 A No.
16 Q When you went with Haley, did Haley do the work?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Okay. Do you recall a person by the name of Sage
19 (phonetic)?
20 A Yeah.
21 Q Okay. You went with Sage?
22 A I didn't go with her. I was there the day Haley
23 brought her.
24 Q Okay.
25 A Me and Haley both sat in the kitchen that day.
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1 Q Okay. So Sage is the one that worked?
2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Each girl that you went with, Jennifer,
4 Joanna, Sage, they're the ones that did the work?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q And Haley sat in the kitchen?
7 A That one day.
8 Q And do you recall any conversations in the car
9 with either Jennifer, Joanna or Sage that Haley may have had
10 with them as far as what to expect?
11 A I think I remember Haley telling Sage that if he
12 tells you hey, you know what I mean, if you want to do
13 anything else you're still free to say no, you know what I
14 mean? He will -- something to the extent we're like hey, if
15 he's like will you do this feel free to say no and he'll be
16 okay with it pretty much.
17 Q Okay. And what you mean by he wants to do this,
18 it's more than a massage?
19 A Right.
20 Q Okay. What do you know of that goes on up in the
21 massaging or --
22 A Nobody ever wanted to tell me anything. Just that
23 they were giving massages and that was it. I didn't even
24 want to really know too much.
25 Q Okay. Obviously this was like a little clique,
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2 clique --
3 A Yeah.
4 Q -- based on what I found out.
5 A Right.
6 Q Did Haley ever receive money for taking people?
7 A Yes, she did. Every time she brought a girl she
8 made an automatic $200.
9 Q $200.
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Who paid her?
12 A I believe it was Jeff.
13 Q Jeff pays her? Did you ever make any money for
14 going with her?
15 A Never one. I never even really talked to him.
16 Like he came down twice I think just to say hello and that
17 was pretty much it. He shook my hand and that was it.
18 Q Okay. Who else that you know of might have come
19 to the house?
20 A I know a lot of girls that went there. Sage,
21 Lauren, Lauren Murphy, Vanessa (inaudible). I'm trying to
22 think. Nicole (inaudible).
23 Q Okay.
24 A I can't remember anybody else.
25 Q And did Haley take these people as well?
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1 A Yeah. I'm pretty sure.
2 Q Okay.
3 A She's the one that told us all about it.
4 Q How do you think Haley met him?
5 A I have no idea.
6 Q No?
7 A I think I asked her once but I don't know. Me and
8 Haley don't talk anymore. We haven't talked for a while.
9 No idea.
10 Q Okay. During the drive, was there anybody out of
11 the three that you recall Jennifer, Joanna, Sage, aside from
12 what was said, did she say if you do this, you get this, if
13 you do that, you get this, the more you do, the more you get
14 paid?
15 A No. She never said anything like that. She just
16 said that you get 200 bucks for like a massage. That was
17 pretty much it. Nothing else. She never said anything like
18 sexual.
19 Q Okay.
20 A I had a feeling she was lying about her age and --
21 Q Who?
22 A Sage.
23 Q Sage was?
24 A Uh-huh.
25 Q Do you know her last name?
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1 A I have no idea. I remember her telling us she's a
2 twin but...
3 Q How old were these people when they went?
4 Obviously they were in high school.
5 A Right. I'd say between 16, 17 years old.
6 Q Why do you think she was lying about her age?
7 A Because she just looked really young. She was
8 really confused about what was going on. I just -- she just
9 had 200 -- she was just like wow. You know? She just
10 looked really young. Things about her.
11 Q Really?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she was?
14 A I think she said she was 17 and I think she looked
15 like she was like 15. Fifteen.
16 Q Okay. Does she still go to Royal Palm High
17 School?
18 A I have no idea. I'm not there anymore.
19 Q Okay. Okay. Did you ever meet any of his
20 assistants?
21 A One girl. I forget her name but she's what do you
22 call it? Like a secretary. She answered all his phone
23 calls. Really pretty girl. Really pretty blond girl. She
24 was a model. I don't remember what her name was.
25 Q Okay. All right.
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1 A She was very nice. Really, really, really nice.
2 Q Out of the four or five times that you went, three
3 of these girls worked and Haley worked the rest?
4 A Yeah. Pretty much. The only time I really went
5 was with Haley so I went with -- see she was like always
6 there all the time, Haley. She'd come with me and Jen, she
7 was with me and Joanna and then the one time with, you know,
8 Sage. They always asked me to work. I never did. Never.
9 I couldn't. There's just something wrong about that. You
10 know, I'm not stupid.
11 Q Do you know if any of these girls had any formal
12 massage training?
13 A No. I don't think so.
14 Q No? Not hard to figure that out?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
17 add to the statement?
18 A No. I'm just upset. That's all I know.
19 Q Before I end this, just real quick, I just changed
20 my mind, how long ago did Jennifer Siciliano go?
21 A I'd say about a year ago too.
22 Q A year?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Joanna?
25 A Probably about the same time. I haven't seen any
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2 are still friends but I haven't heard about Jeffrey in about
3 a year.
4 Q Okay. What about Sage?
5 A Yep. About a year ago.
6 Q Year ago? Okay. Okay. Well, at this time I'm
7 going to go ahead and conclude this statement. Again, I
8 appreciate you meeting with me.
9 A Thank you.
10 Q Do you have any questions?
11 A Nope.
12 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. At this time I'm going
13 to go ahead and conclude the statement. The time
14 on my watch is about 10:25 a.m.
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6 and did stenographically report the forgoing
proceedings, and that the transcript is a true and
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4 Q -- 2005. This is ID number 7915. Detective
5 (inaudible) with the Town of Palm Beach Police Department.
6 Present is Detective Michael Dawson from the Palm Beach
7 Police Department. And would you state your name for the
8 record?
9 A Lauren Murphy.
10 Q Would you raise your right hand for me, please?
11 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
12 nothing but the truth so help you God?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. And here's my card.
15 A Okay.
16 Q Okay. Obviously I am here because we are working
17 a case involving Jeff Epstein or Jeffrey, and I understand
18 you may have some information as to your visits over to his
19 house either to work or to visit.
20 A Uh-huh.
21 Q If you could, please, in your own words, tell me
22 from the beginning how you were introduced to Mr. Epstein.
23 A Vanessa introduced me. She brought me over and
24 she said like the first time I went over there just to him
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1 and waited.
2 Q Okay. How long ago was this?
3 A Like seven months ago. It was actually March.
4 Q March 2005?
5 A Uh-huh.
6 Q Okay.
7 A And then after he met me he asked for a massage
8 and I was kind of hesitant because it was kind of weird but
9 I did it anyways and I went up there and gave him a massage
10 and he gave me 200 the first time.
11 Q Okay. How many times have you been to his house
12 total?
13 A Between like seven and ten from the time I started
14 from like once a month.
15 Q Seven to ten times a month -- seven to ten times?
16 A Yeah.
17 Q When was the last time you were there?
18 A September the 28th. Not last (inaudible).
19 Q Okay. Okay. All right. And what was your duties
20 when you went to work for him?
21 A Just giving him a massage and that's it.
22 Q Okay. Okay. When you entered to the house, who
23 were you introduced to?
24 A Introduced to every time I went?
25 Q No, like the first time.
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1 A The first time I went just Sarah and him.
2 Q Sarah and Jeff?
3 A Uh-huh. And there was other people there but I
4 wasn't introduced to them.
5 Q Okay.
6 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
7 Q Do you know Sarah's last name?
8 A (No audible response.)
9 BY MALE SPEAKER:
10 Q Okay.
11 A I can give you her name.
12 Q It's a 917 number or something? Yeah. I know.
13 I've interviewed a lot of girls and basically
14 everybody has told me what -- some have held back, some have
15 told me the complete truth.
16 A Okay.
17 Q So what I want you to do is tell me the complete
18 truth of what happened. Okay?
19 A That's what happened.
20 Q Okay.
21 A I mean I know girls that have done more but I
22 haven't. He's asked me. I'm not going to lie to you. But
23 I haven't known him that long.
24 Q Okay. Your first time you went you just sat in
25 the kitchen and waited for Vanessa, correct?
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1 A Uh-huh. Yeah. Plus he wanted to meet me.
2 Q Okay. As you've gone, tell me has anything
3 escalated from just a massage?
4 A No. Like the first time I went I waited. The
5 second time I went I stayed in all my clothes and like gave
6 him a massage and I think the third time I went he asked me
7 if I'd like to get like more naked or whatever and I said
8 no. I don't feel comfortable. After that he never asked me
9 anything that made me feel uncomfortable.
10 Q Do you give the massage in your under garments?
11 A No.
12 Q Completely clothed?
13 A Completely clothed, yeah.
14 Q Okay.
15 A I mean he's asked me but I said no because I just
16 don't feel comfortable doing that.
17 Q Has he touched you?
18 A No.
19 Q Has he --
20 A Of course he's touched me. He's given me a hug
21 goodbye. But not in a perv way.
22 Q Okay. So basically you just massaged him?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And you received $200?
25 A Uh-huh.
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1 Q For a massage?
2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Each time?
4 A The last couple times he gave me 300 because I
5 told him I needed money and I told him that driving here
6 from Orlando was costing me a lot. I never asked
7 (inaudible).
8 Q Was there anybody else in the room while you were
9 giving him a massage?
10 A No.
11 Q Just you and him?
12 A Just me and him.
13 Q You've never gone upstairs with Vanessa?
14 A Yeah, I have, but not while I was giving a
15 massage.
16 Q Okay.
17 A One time we were there we were hanging out just
18 talking and stuff.
19 Q Have you recently been contacted by anybody
20 working for Jeff?
21 A Uh-huh. Yes.
22 Q Who have you been in contact with?
23 A I can't really -- oh, this guy named Paul. I
24 don't know how he's affiliated but he just wanted to know
25 like what was going on and I told him what I knew because I
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2 Q Okay. Did he leave you a number? Did he leave
3 you --
4 A He didn't leave me a number but it's on my phone I
5 think.
6 Q Okay. Can you do that? Can I get that number?
7 A Uh-huh. It's not on here anymore but I swear it's
8 a 305 number.
9 Q It's a 305 number?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q And where did he say he --
12 A Actually it might be on my old phone. My old
13 phone is dead but it's on this one because --
14 Q Is that a Nextel?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Dead battery.
17 A But it has a (inaudible).
18 Q Oh. Can you plug that in?
19 A Yeah.
20 Q And what did Paul ask you?
21 A Just what was going on with this whole thing and
22 that's it. I just told him --
23 Q Did he come up here or did you meet with him in
24 Florida?
25 A He came up here.
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1 Q Oh, he came up here?
2 A Yeah.
3 Q He met you right here?
4 A Not here. I met him at Wal-Mart and I just -- he
5 just kept asking me questions that I didn't know the answer
6 to so...
7 Q Was he an investigator? Was he an attorney?
8 A I don't know. I don't think he was an attorney
9 because he kept saying the information he's getting from me
10 is going to go to Jeff's attorney so I don't think he was an
11 attorney.
12 Q What kind of questions was he asking? If the
13 police were involved?
14 A Yeah. If -- how the police got involved. I said
15 I don't know. What kind of questions they were asking me.
16 I said I don't know because I haven't been questioned yet
17 and just like how old I was and basically like you guys are
18 asking what I did when I went there.
19 Q Now how old were you when you first started going
20 there?
21 A Eighteen. I'm 19 now this last March.
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23 Q March of '05, right?
24 A Yeah. And I turned 19.
25 Q And did he question Saige at the same time?
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1 A No.
2 Q Did he ever?
3 A No. Saige said she didn't want to.
4 Q Okay. And he said he was a representative of
5 Jeffrey Epstein?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Did he call you or did Jeffrey or Sarah --
8 A No, he called me. This is the number. It's
9 305 --
10 Q Uh-huh.
11 A -- 710-5165.
12 Q Okay. When was this you met him?
13 A Like two, three -- it was Friday or Saturday.
14 Q Did he come by himself?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Did he tape the conversation?
17 A No. He asked me and I said no.
18 BY MALE SPEAKER:
19 Q Okay. If he reaches out to you again just give
20 him my number and have him call me.
21 A Uh-huh.
22 Q Okay?
23 A He asked for your number but I didn't -- I had a
24 number (inaudible) and then I was just like you know that's
25 PBSO.
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1 Q I'm with the Palm Beach Police.
2 A Oh, like Palm Beach Island?
3 Q Yeah. Town Hall.
4 A I told him the Palm Beach Sheriff's Department.
5 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
6 Q When you went to Jeffrey Epstein, where was the
7 house located?
8 A On Palm Beach.
9 Q In Palm Beach?
10 A Yeah. Oh, the guy asked me also if I was ever
11 anywhere else besides his house.
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13 Q With Jeffrey?
14 A Yeah. And I said no because (inaudible).
15 Q At his house. Okay. So basically all you did was
16 a standard massage?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Messaged what?
19 A His back and his lower back and his feet.
20 Q Okay. Have you ever seen him naked?
21 A No. In a towel but that's it.
22 Q That's it. Has he ever touched you?
23 A No.
24 Q Has he ever touched himself while you were
25 massaging?
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1 A No. He was mostly like on the phone like my
2 friend told me he's never that way toward me. He asked me
3 once.
4 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
5 Q What did he ask you?
6 A He asked me like the third time I went there.
7 Q To do what?
8 A If I wanted to get naked or do anything more and I
9 said no and I think he could tell I was like uncomfortable
10 with it so.
11 BY MALE SPEAKER:
12 Q Okay. All right. So aside from Sarah and
13 Jeffrey, did you meet anybody else in the house?
14 A I met -- yeah, but I don't know like I didn't meet
15 them but I've seen them. Like I know who (inaudible) and
16 I've seen a little like short -- I don't even know. Some
17 lady out there didn't speak well English and then there was
18 a guy with blond hair and he doesn't speak that well English
19 either.
20 Q Okay.
21 A And but I know (inaudible) introduced to them and
22 then Atriana or Adriana or whatever her name is --
23 Q Uh-huh?
24 A I was never introduced. I'd just seen her and
25 said hi to her before. Then Sarah and Jeff I've met
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2 Q And you would travel from Orlando down there just
3 to --
4 A Huh-huh. My family lives there so...
5 Q Okay. For the record your date of birth is?
6 A 6/1/86.
7 Q Okay. Aside from Vanessa has anybody else asked
8 to you go over there?
9 A Haley, but I never went with her.
10 Q Okay. So the very first time you went to the
11 house was with Vanessa?
12 A Uh-huh.
13 Q And Haley approached you when?
14 A At the same time Vanessa did but I'm friends with
15 Vanessa. I wasn't really friends with Haley and I knew
16 Hailey was making money off of it.
17 Q It was no secret. I mean everybody knows that
18 Haley was working for him.
19 A Yeah. Everybody knew that.
20 Q I know that.
21 A So I just was like I don't know you that well. He
22 wanted to make money off of Vanessa. I just wanted to go
23 with Vanessa because she know him and she know like the
24 situation so I went with her.
25 Q How far has Vanessa gone with him?
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1 A She really doesn't go into detail. I know she's
2 gone farther than me but she doesn't really go into detail
3 about it.
4 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
5 add to this statement?
6 A No.
7 MALE SPEAKER: No. Okay. At this time I'm
8 going to go ahead and conclude the statement. The
9 time by my watch is 12:10.
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4 Q -- 2005. This is ID number 7915. Detective
5 (inaudible) with the Town of Palm Beach Police Department.
6 Present is Detective Michael Dawson from the Palm Beach
7 Police Department. And would you state your name for the
8 record?
9 A Lauren Murphy.
10 Q Would you raise your right hand for me, please?
11 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
12 nothing but the truth so help you God?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. And here's my card.
15 A Okay.
16 Q Okay. Obviously I am here because we are working
17 a case involving Jeff Epstein or Jeffrey, and I understand
18 you may have some information as to your visits over to his
19 house either to work or to visit.
20 A Uh-huh.
21 Q If you could, please, in your own words, tell me
22 from the beginning how you were introduced to Mr. Epstein.
23 A Vanessa introduced me. She brought me over and
24 she said like the first time I went over there just to him
25 and she went and did her massage and I just sat in his house
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1 and waited.
2 Q Okay. How long ago was this?
3 A Like seven months ago. It was actually March.
4 Q March 2005?
5 A Uh-huh.
6 Q Okay.
7 A And then after he met me he asked for a massage
8 and I was kind of hesitant because it was kind of weird but
9 I did it anyways and I went up there and gave him a massage
10 and he gave me 200 the first time.
11 Q Okay. How many times have you been to his house
12 total?
13 A Between like seven and ten from the time I started
14 from like once a month.
15 Q Seven to ten times a month -- seven to ten times?
16 A Yeah.
17 Q When was the last time you were there?
18 A September the 28th. Not last (inaudible).
19 Q Okay. Okay. All right. And what was your duties
20 when you went to work for him?
21 A Just giving him a massage and that's it.
22 Q Okay. Okay. When you entered to the house, who
23 were you introduced to?
24 A Introduced to every time I went?
25 Q No, like the first time.
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1 A The first time I went just Sarah and him.
2 Q Sarah and Jeff?
3 A Uh-huh. And there was other people there but I
4 wasn't introduced to them.
5 Q Okay.
6 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
7 Q Do you know Sarah's last name?
8 A (No audible response.)
9 BY MALE SPEAKER:
10 Q Okay.
11 A I can give you her name.
12 Q It's a 917 number or something? Yeah. I know.
13 I've interviewed a lot of girls and basically
14 everybody has told me what -- some have held back, some have
15 told me the complete truth.
16 A Okay.
17 Q So what I want you to do is tell me the complete
18 truth of what happened. Okay?
19 A That's what happened.
20 Q Okay.
21 A I mean I know girls that have done more but I
22 haven't. He's asked me. I'm not going to lie to you. But
23 I haven't known him that long.
24 Q Okay. Your first time you went you just sat in
25 the kitchen and waited for Vanessa, correct?
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1 A Uh-huh. Yeah. Plus he wanted to meet me.
2 Q Okay. As you've gone, tell me has anything
3 escalated from just a massage?
4 A No. Like the first time I went I waited. The
5 second time I went I stayed in all my clothes and like gave
6 him a massage and I think the third time I went he asked me
7 if I'd like to get like more naked or whatever and I said
8 no. I don't feel comfortable. After that he never asked me
9 anything that made me feel uncomfortable.
10 Q Do you give the massage in your under garments?
11 A No.
12 Q Completely clothed?
13 A Completely clothed, yeah.
14 Q Okay.
15 A I mean he's asked me but I said no because I just
16 don't feel comfortable doing that.
17 Q Has he touched you?
18 A No.
19 Q Has he --
20 A Of course he's touched me. He's given me a hug
21 goodbye. But not in a perv way.
22 Q Okay. So basically you just massaged him?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And you received $200?
25 A Uh-huh.
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1 Q For a massage?
2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Each time?
4 A The last couple times he gave me 300 because I
5 told him I needed money and I told him that driving here
6 from Orlando was costing me a lot. I never asked
7 (inaudible).
8 Q Was there anybody else in the room while you were
9 giving him a massage?
10 A No.
11 Q Just you and him?
12 A Just me and him.
13 Q You've never gone upstairs with Vanessa?
14 A Yeah, I have, but not while I was giving a
15 massage.
16 Q Okay.
17 A One time we were there we were hanging out just
18 talking and stuff.
19 Q Have you recently been contacted by anybody
20 working for Jeff?
21 A Uh-huh. Yes.
22 Q Who have you been in contact with?
23 A I can't really -- oh, this guy named Paul. I
24 don't know how he's affiliated but he just wanted to know
25 like what was going on and I told him what I knew because I
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1 don't know much.
2 Q Okay. Did he leave you a number? Did he leave
3 you --
4 A He didn't leave me a number but it's on my phone I
5 think.
6 Q Okay. Can you do that? Can I get that number?
7 A Uh-huh. It's not on here anymore but I swear it's
8 a 305 number.
9 Q It's a 305 number?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q And where did he say he --
12 A Actually it might be on my old phone. My old
13 phone is dead but it's on this one because --
14 Q Is that a Nextel?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Dead battery.
17 A But it has a (inaudible).
18 Q Oh. Can you plug that in?
19 A Yeah.
20 Q And what did Paul ask you?
21 A Just what was going on with this whole thing and
22 that's it. I just told him --
23 Q Did he come up here or did you meet with him in
24 Florida?
25 A He came up here.
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1 Q Oh, he came up here?
2 A Yeah.
3 Q He met you right here?
4 A Not here. I met him at Wal-Mart and I just -- he
5 just kept asking me questions that I didn't know the answer
6 to so...
7 Q Was he an investigator? Was he an attorney?
8 A I don't know. I don't think he was an attorney
9 because he kept saying the information he's getting from me
10 is going to go to Jeff's attorney so I don't think he was an
11 attorney.
12 Q What kind of questions was he asking? If the
13 police were involved?
14 A Yeah. If -- how the police got involved. I said
15 I don't know. What kind of questions they were asking me.
16 I said I don't know because I haven't been questioned yet
17 and just like how old I was and basically like you guys are
18 asking what I did when I went there.
19 Q Now how old were you when you first started going
20 there?
21 A Eighteen. I'm 19 now this last March.
22 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
23 Q March of '05, right?
24 A Yeah. And I turned 19.
25 Q And did he question Saige at the same time?
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1 A No.
2 Q Did he ever?
3 A No. Saige said she didn't want to.
4 Q Okay. And he said he was a representative of
5 Jeffrey Epstein?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Did he call you or did Jeffrey or Sarah --
8 A No, he called me. This is the number. It's
9 305 --
10 Q Uh-huh.
11 A -- 710-5165.
12 Q Okay. When was this you met him?
13 A Like two, three -- it was Friday or Saturday.
14 Q Did he come by himself?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Did he tape the conversation?
17 A No. He asked me and I said no.
18 BY MALE SPEAKER:
19 Q Okay. If he reaches out to you again just give
20 him my number and have him call me.
21 A Uh-huh.
22 Q Okay?
23 A He asked for your number but I didn't -- I had a
24 number (inaudible) and then I was just like you know that's
25 PBSO.
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1 Q I'm with the Palm Beach Police.
2 A Oh, like Palm Beach Island?
3 Q Yeah. Town Hall.
4 A I told him the Palm Beach Sheriff's Department.
5 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
6 Q When you went to Jeffrey Epstein, where was the
7 house located?
8 A On Palm Beach.
9 Q In Palm Beach?
10 A Yeah. Oh, the guy asked me also if I was ever
11 anywhere else besides his house.
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13 Q With Jeffrey?
14 A Yeah. And I said no because (inaudible).
15 Q At his house. Okay. So basically all you did was
16 a standard massage?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Messaged what?
19 A His back and his lower back and his feet.
20 Q Okay. Have you ever seen him naked?
21 A No. In a towel but that's it.
22 Q That's it. Has he ever touched you?
23 A No.
24 Q Has he ever touched himself while you were
25 massaging?
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1 A No. He was mostly like on the phone like my
2 friend told me he's never that way toward me. He asked me
3 once.
4 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
5 Q What did he ask you?
6 A He asked me like the third time I went there.
7 Q To do what?
8 A If I wanted to get naked or do anything more and I
9 said no and I think he could tell I was like uncomfortable
10 with it so.
11 BY MALE SPEAKER:
12 Q Okay. All right. So aside from Sarah and
13 Jeffrey, did you meet anybody else in the house?
14 A I met -- yeah, but I don't know like I didn't meet
15 them but I've seen them. Like I know who (inaudible) and
16 I've seen a little like short -- I don't even know. Some
17 lady out there didn't speak well English and then there was
18 a guy with blond hair and he doesn't speak that well English
19 either.
20 Q Okay.
21 A And but I know (inaudible) introduced to them and
22 then Atriana or Adriana or whatever her name is --
23 Q Uh-huh?
24 A I was never introduced. I'd just seen her and
25 said hi to her before. Then Sarah and Jeff I've met
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2 Q And you would travel from Orlando down there just
3 to --
4 A Huh-huh. My family lives there so...
5 Q Okay. For the record your date of birth is?
6 A 6/1/86.
7 Q Okay. Aside from Vanessa has anybody else asked
8 to you go over there?
9 A Haley, but I never went with her.
10 Q Okay. So the very first time you went to the
11 house was with Vanessa?
12 A Uh-huh.
13 Q And Haley approached you when?
14 A At the same time Vanessa did but I'm friends with
15 Vanessa. I wasn't really friends with Haley and I knew
16 Hailey was making money off of it.
17 Q It was no secret. I mean everybody knows that
18 Haley was working for him.
19 A Yeah. Everybody knew that.
20 Q I know that.
21 A So I just was like I don't know you that well. He
22 wanted to make money off of Vanessa. I just wanted to go
23 with Vanessa because she know him and she know like the
24 situation so I went with her.
25 Q How far has Vanessa gone with him?
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1 A She really doesn't go into detail. I know she's
2 gone farther than me but she doesn't really go into detail
3 about it.
4 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
5 add to this statement?
6 A No.
7 MALE SPEAKER: No. Okay. At this time I'm
8 going to go ahead and conclude the statement. The
9 time by my watch is 12:10.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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4 Q Today's date is October 4th, 2005. This is ID
5 number 7915 Detective (inaudible) of the Palm Beach Police
6 Department. Present at 1301 (inaudible) Road is Detective
7 Michael Dawson of the Palm Beach Police Department.
8 And can you state your name for the record?
9 A Faith Pentek.
10 Q Faith, how do you spell your last name?
11 A P-E-N-T-E-K.
12 Q Okay. How old are you?
13 A I'm 18.
14 Q Eighteen. Okay. You're currently in college?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. What college are you attending?
17 A Valencia.
18 Q Valencia. Okay. And your date of birth is?
19 A 6/30/87.
20 Q Okay. Can you raise your right hand for me? Do
21 you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
22 nothing but the truth so help you God?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Faith, if you could tell me from the beginning how
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1 and we are conducting an investigation. We were here last
2 night, spoke with your mom and dad. If you can just start
3 from the beginning as to how you met him.
4 A Okay.
5 Q And how it came about.
6 A I met him through my friend Haley.
7 Q Okay. How long ago was that?
8 A It was probably about almost a year ago.
9 Q Okay. Okay.
10 A And he -- I went there once with her and she gave
11 him a massage and then she asked me if I wanted to do it and
12 I did it or whatever and then after that like he kind of
13 scared me when I went there so I just decided not to go
14 back.
15 Q Okay. The first time you went with Haley did you
16 go upstairs with him?
17 A No, I stayed downstairs.
18 Q Did Haley tell you that -- what was entailed as to
19 what had to be done?
20 A Well she said the first time you go it's just like
21 a massage and she said well like well the more you go
22 supposedly the more he like expects and likes flirting with
23 girls and that's what kind of like scared me.
24 Q Okay. I've interviewed other girls and they've
25 told me pretty much the same thing about the massage but
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1 there's more to that. More to the massage. Okay? That's
2 why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me
3 about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other
4 people already who've told me what transpired in that room.
5 I know it's going to be difficult for you but...
6 A Well the first time I went there I did a massage
7 and he was just asking me a lot of questions, he seemed
8 really nice, and then he kept like staring at me and stuff.
9 And then like I did a massage and he just kept looking at me
10 and he was like oh, you're being shy and I'm like yeah. And
11 he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I was like yeah, a
12 little bit. And he's like okay. And he's like well do you
13 want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. And he was like
14 why are you like being shy and I was like oh, I don't know
15 and then he would like change the subject and he started
16 talking about other things. And then when we were done he
17 said that if like I wanted to come back and do more then he
18 would like to pay me more and then I would have to talk to
19 Haley and I could come back.
20 Q Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as
21 you were massaging him?
22 A He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't
23 remember everything but...
24 Q Right.
25 A He was asking me if I had any friends that would
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2 asked me about what I wanted to do when I grew up and stuff
3 like that and I asked him what he did and he said he was
4 like a scientist basically.
5 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you how old you were?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Did he know that you were 17?
8 A No, I don't think so.
9 Q Well it would have been 16 if it was a year ago,
10 right?
11 A Well it was almost a year ago. (Inaudible.)
12 Q Okay. During the massage did you -- were you
13 naked or --
14 A No. I had my clothes on.
15 Q You had all your clothes on?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Okay. Did he touch you in anyway?
18 A He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I
19 was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he
20 didn't but I heard about other girls that he -- that he got
21 flirtatious with them and he made them take off their
22 clothes and stuff.
23 Q Okay. What -- that was the first time you went,
24 right?
25 A Yeah.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Well, no, it was the second time I gave him a
3 massage. The first time I went up with Haley.
4 Q You went upstairs with Haley?
5 A No, I was in the kitchen.
6 Q You were in the kitchen. You only had two times
7 that you went there?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q The first time you didn't do anything but just sit
10 in the kitchen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Who did you sit in the kitchen with?
13 A He had a cook that was there and he had -- there
14 was like two other girls that live with him.
15 Q Okay. Did you massage his back? Was he naked
16 when you were massaging him?
17 A Well, he had like a towel around his -- his upper
18 was (inaudible) but he had like a towel around him.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever remove that towel?
20 A No.
21 Q When you were massaging him he never removed the
22 towel?
23 A No.
24 Q Okay. Did you -- did he have you touch his
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1 A No. No. I wouldn't do that.
2 Q You wouldn't do that?
3 Okay. Did he touch you in your private area?
4 A No. No.
5 Q No.
6 A He kept like staring at me and like, I don't know,
7 I just felt uncomfortable and I left. But I heard other
8 stories that like --
9 Q Right. I'm concerned with you. I know about
10 other stories and I've interviewed other people have told me
11 different things. That's why I'm trying to find out what
12 happened to you. Okay? You're the victim in this so that's
13 why I'm trying to find out what happens to you.
14 A Uh-huh.
15 Q Okay? Who took you upstairs to the room?
16 A This girl Sarah that lives with him.
17 Q Okay. So Sarah took you up?
18 A Yeah.
19 Q Did she tell you anything? Did she say anything?
20 A Huh-huh. There's a massage table and she just
21 laid a towel down and she said that Jeffrey will be out for
22 his massage.
23 Q Okay. Have you received any massage training?
24 A No.
25 Q No. I have to ask.
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1 Was Sarah one of the two girls that was in the
2 kitchen with you?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Did you ever go back to his house?
5 A Well, I just went there twice.
6 Q Right.
7 A After that --
8 Q After that you've never come back? Never went
9 back?
10 How much did you receive for the massage?
11 A Two hundred.
12 Q You received 200.
13 Okay. Did Haley explain to you what was going to
14 be involved?
15 A She said the first time you go there you pretty
16 much just give a massage but the more you go there the more
17 he expects so that's it. That scared me.
18 Q That's what scared you?
19 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
20 Q Did she say (inaudible) or did she (inaudible)
21 Say --
22 A Say didn't have to say it exactly but she implied
23 like, you know, like taking your clothes off and stuff like
24 that.
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1 BY MALE SPEAKER:
2 Q Okay. So you didn't remove any of your clothing?
3 A No.
4 Q What were you wearing? Can you remember?
5 A I don't know. It was a long time ago. I don't
6 remember exactly.
7 Q Okay.
8 A I don't want to tell you wrong.
9 Q I know. And I know you already told your mom what
10 happened. And like I said, I know this is hard for you
11 but...
12 A I was just scared. I just didn't want my name to
13 like --
14 Q Don't worry. You're not the only person I've
15 talked to. Okay? There's a lot of people that I've talked
16 to and I'm going to talk to.
17 How did you get to his house?
18 A With Haley.
19 Q Haley. Haley took you the first time and you sat
20 in the kitchen.
21 A Yeah.
22 Q What about the second time?
23 A The second time I drove and she came with me.
24 Because I didn't want to --
25 Q You drove. What is it you drive?
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1 A I used to have a Cavalier.
2 Q A Cavalier. What color?
3 A Red.
4 Q Okay. Can you describe to me what Mr. Epstein
5 looks like? Jeffrey looks like?
6 A He's tall and he has like greyish/black hair and
7 he usually wears like glasses and he has blue eyes.
8 Q Okay. When you messaged him, you messaged his
9 back area?
10 A Yes. And I did his feet too.
11 Q And his feet. Okay. Did you do his legs?
12 A Yeah, like his calves.
13 Q His calves. Thigh area?
14 A No.
15 Q His chest area?
16 A No.
17 Q No. Can you describe what his body looks like?
18 A He's not fat but he's not like thin. He's like
19 normal like average.
20 Q Average? Okay. Is he hairy? Is he not hairy?
21 A A little bit.
22 Q A little bit? A little bit he's got hair on his
23 back?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Yeah? How about hair on his chest?
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1 A Um --
2 Q You don't remember? Okay.
3 He did not touch you inappropriately?
4 A No.
5 Q No. Did he masturbate?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Do you know what masturbate means?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q Okay. Why don't you tell me what it means just so
10 I know that you know.
11 A Playing with yourself.
12 Q Okay. Okay. I have to make sure you understand
13 what it means. Okay? I know it's difficult. He didn't
14 touch himself --
15 A No.
16 Q -- while you were massaging him?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Is there anything else you'd like to add?
19 A No. I mean I heard of other stories that he did
20 and I don't think it's very like appropriate like --
21 Q Right.
22 A -- the stories I heard.
23 Q Right. Well, a lot of people that I've been
24 talking to are about your age and a couple younger than you
25 so that's the part that I have serious problems with.
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1 A Yeah.
2 MALE SPEAKER: Do you have any questions?
3 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
4 Q Did you see any others -- when you were there you
5 said there were two girls in the kitchen. The second time
6 you went you went with Haley. Were there any other girls
7 there?
8 A Yeah, there were the same two girls that were
9 there.
10 Q Same two girls? Okay.
11 A I'm pretty sure they like live and travel with
12 him.
13 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. All right. Well at
14 this time I'm going to conclude this statement.
15 It's 11:45 a.m.
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5 I, Sandra Rossi, Court Reporter, State of
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6 and did stenographically report the forgoing
proceedings, and that the transcript is a true and
7 complete record of the tape as listened to by me.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 BY MALE SPEAKER:
4 Q Today's date is October 4th, 2005. This is ID
5 number 7915 Detective (inaudible) of the Palm Beach Police
6 Department. Present at 1301 (inaudible) Road is Detective
7 Michael Dawson of the Palm Beach Police Department.
8 And can you state your name for the record?
9 A Faith Pentek.
10 Q Faith, how do you spell your last name?
11 A P-E-N-T-E-K.
12 Q Okay. How old are you?
13 A I'm 18.
14 Q Eighteen. Okay. You're currently in college?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. What college are you attending?
17 A Valencia.
18 Q Valencia. Okay. And your date of birth is?
19 A 6/30/87.
20 Q Okay. Can you raise your right hand for me? Do
21 you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
22 nothing but the truth so help you God?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Faith, if you could tell me from the beginning how
25 you met Jeffrey Epstein. I know you have some information
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1 and we are conducting an investigation. We were here last
2 night, spoke with your mom and dad. If you can just start
3 from the beginning as to how you met him.
4 A Okay.
5 Q And how it came about.
6 A I met him through my friend Haley.
7 Q Okay. How long ago was that?
8 A It was probably about almost a year ago.
9 Q Okay. Okay.
10 A And he -- I went there once with her and she gave
11 him a massage and then she asked me if I wanted to do it and
12 I did it or whatever and then after that like he kind of
13 scared me when I went there so I just decided not to go
14 back.
15 Q Okay. The first time you went with Haley did you
16 go upstairs with him?
17 A No, I stayed downstairs.
18 Q Did Haley tell you that -- what was entailed as to
19 what had to be done?
20 A Well she said the first time you go it's just like
21 a massage and she said well like well the more you go
22 supposedly the more he like expects and likes flirting with
23 girls and that's what kind of like scared me.
24 Q Okay. I've interviewed other girls and they've
25 told me pretty much the same thing about the massage but
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1 there's more to that. More to the massage. Okay? That's
2 why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me
3 about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other
4 people already who've told me what transpired in that room.
5 I know it's going to be difficult for you but...
6 A Well the first time I went there I did a massage
7 and he was just asking me a lot of questions, he seemed
8 really nice, and then he kept like staring at me and stuff.
9 And then like I did a massage and he just kept looking at me
10 and he was like oh, you're being shy and I'm like yeah. And
11 he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I was like yeah, a
12 little bit. And he's like okay. And he's like well do you
13 want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. And he was like
14 why are you like being shy and I was like oh, I don't know
15 and then he would like change the subject and he started
16 talking about other things. And then when we were done he
17 said that if like I wanted to come back and do more then he
18 would like to pay me more and then I would have to talk to
19 Haley and I could come back.
20 Q Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as
21 you were massaging him?
22 A He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't
23 remember everything but...
24 Q Right.
25 A He was asking me if I had any friends that would
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1 like to give a massage and I said I don't know. Then he
2 asked me about what I wanted to do when I grew up and stuff
3 like that and I asked him what he did and he said he was
4 like a scientist basically.
5 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you how old you were?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Did he know that you were 17?
8 A No, I don't think so.
9 Q Well it would have been 16 if it was a year ago,
10 right?
11 A Well it was almost a year ago. (Inaudible.)
12 Q Okay. During the massage did you -- were you
13 naked or --
14 A No. I had my clothes on.
15 Q You had all your clothes on?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Okay. Did he touch you in anyway?
18 A He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I
19 was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he
20 didn't but I heard about other girls that he -- that he got
21 flirtatious with them and he made them take off their
22 clothes and stuff.
23 Q Okay. What -- that was the first time you went,
24 right?
25 A Yeah.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Well, no, it was the second time I gave him a
3 massage. The first time I went up with Haley.
4 Q You went upstairs with Haley?
5 A No, I was in the kitchen.
6 Q You were in the kitchen. You only had two times
7 that you went there?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q The first time you didn't do anything but just sit
10 in the kitchen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Who did you sit in the kitchen with?
13 A He had a cook that was there and he had -- there
14 was like two other girls that live with him.
15 Q Okay. Did you massage his back? Was he naked
16 when you were massaging him?
17 A Well, he had like a towel around his -- his upper
18 was (inaudible) but he had like a towel around him.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever remove that towel?
20 A No.
21 Q When you were massaging him he never removed the
22 towel?
23 A No.
24 Q Okay. Did you -- did he have you touch his
25 private area?
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1 A No. No. I wouldn't do that.
2 Q You wouldn't do that?
3 Okay. Did he touch you in your private area?
4 A No. No.
5 Q No.
6 A He kept like staring at me and like, I don't know,
7 I just felt uncomfortable and I left. But I heard other
8 stories that like --
9 Q Right. I'm concerned with you. I know about
10 other stories and I've interviewed other people have told me
11 different things. That's why I'm trying to find out what
12 happened to you. Okay? You're the victim in this so that's
13 why I'm trying to find out what happens to you.
14 A Uh-huh.
15 Q Okay? Who took you upstairs to the room?
16 A This girl Sarah that lives with him.
17 Q Okay. So Sarah took you up?
18 A Yeah.
19 Q Did she tell you anything? Did she say anything?
20 A Huh-huh. There's a massage table and she just
21 laid a towel down and she said that Jeffrey will be out for
22 his massage.
23 Q Okay. Have you received any massage training?
24 A No.
25 Q No. I have to ask.
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1 Was Sarah one of the two girls that was in the
2 kitchen with you?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Did you ever go back to his house?
5 A Well, I just went there twice.
6 Q Right.
7 A After that --
8 Q After that you've never come back? Never went
9 back?
10 How much did you receive for the massage?
11 A Two hundred.
12 Q You received 200.
13 Okay. Did Haley explain to you what was going to
14 be involved?
15 A She said the first time you go there you pretty
16 much just give a massage but the more you go there the more
17 he expects so that's it. That scared me.
18 Q That's what scared you?
19 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
20 Q Did she say (inaudible) or did she (inaudible)
21 Say --
22 A Say didn't have to say it exactly but she implied
23 like, you know, like taking your clothes off and stuff like
24 that.
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1 BY MALE SPEAKER:
2 Q Okay. So you didn't remove any of your clothing?
3 A No.
4 Q What were you wearing? Can you remember?
5 A I don't know. It was a long time ago. I don't
6 remember exactly.
7 Q Okay.
8 A I don't want to tell you wrong.
9 Q I know. And I know you already told your mom what
10 happened. And like I said, I know this is hard for you
11 but...
12 A I was just scared. I just didn't want my name to
13 like --
14 Q Don't worry. You're not the only person I've
15 talked to. Okay? There's a lot of people that I've talked
16 to and I'm going to talk to.
17 How did you get to his house?
18 A With Haley.
19 Q Haley. Haley took you the first time and you sat
20 in the kitchen.
21 A Yeah.
22 Q What about the second time?
23 A The second time I drove and she came with me.
24 Because I didn't want to --
25 Q You drove. What is it you drive?
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1 A I used to have a Cavalier.
2 Q A Cavalier. What color?
3 A Red.
4 Q Okay. Can you describe to me what Mr. Epstein
5 looks like? Jeffrey looks like?
6 A He's tall and he has like greyish/black hair and
7 he usually wears like glasses and he has blue eyes.
8 Q Okay. When you messaged him, you messaged his
9 back area?
10 A Yes. And I did his feet too.
11 Q And his feet. Okay. Did you do his legs?
12 A Yeah, like his calves.
13 Q His calves. Thigh area?
14 A No.
15 Q His chest area?
16 A No.
17 Q No. Can you describe what his body looks like?
18 A He's not fat but he's not like thin. He's like
19 normal like average.
20 Q Average? Okay. Is he hairy? Is he not hairy?
21 A A little bit.
22 Q A little bit? A little bit he's got hair on his
23 back?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Yeah? How about hair on his chest?
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1 A Um --
2 Q You don't remember? Okay.
3 He did not touch you inappropriately?
4 A No.
5 Q No. Did he masturbate?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Do you know what masturbate means?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q Okay. Why don't you tell me what it means just so
10 I know that you know.
11 A Playing with yourself.
12 Q Okay. Okay. I have to make sure you understand
13 what it means. Okay? I know it's difficult. He didn't
14 touch himself --
15 A No.
16 Q -- while you were massaging him?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Is there anything else you'd like to add?
19 A No. I mean I heard of other stories that he did
20 and I don't think it's very like appropriate like --
21 Q Right.
22 A -- the stories I heard.
23 Q Right. Well, a lot of people that I've been
24 talking to are about your age and a couple younger than you
25 so that's the part that I have serious problems with.
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1 A Yeah.
2 MALE SPEAKER: Do you have any questions?
3 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
4 Q Did you see any others -- when you were there you
5 said there were two girls in the kitchen. The second time
6 you went you went with Haley. Were there any other girls
7 there?
8 A Yeah, there were the same two girls that were
9 there.
10 Q Same two girls? Okay.
11 A I'm pretty sure they like live and travel with
12 him.
13 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. All right. Well at
14 this time I'm going to conclude this statement.
15 It's 11:45 a.m.
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Florida at Large, certify that I was authorized to
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proceedings, and that the transcript is a true and
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1 IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 A -- say anything to you about this (inaudible),
4 right?
5 Q You know we're not argue again. We're not going
6 to keep much from you.
7 A I just don't want to rat anybody out. I'm not an
8 idiot. Come on, now.
9 Q That wasn't more of a ratting out. It was more of
10 a --
11 A (Inaudible.)
12 Q You got it.
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q You're a smart girl.
15 A I'm not an idiot.
16 Q Yeah. No, you're not an idiot.
17 A I guess karma, you know.
18 Q (Inaudible.) I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't
19 even know who he is.
20 A I don't know. It's such a big -- there's so many
21 girls out there that have worked for him it's not even
22 funny.
23 Q Really?
24 A Like I said some bring friends who bring friends
25 who bring friends.
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1 MALE SPEAKER: All right. You notified
2 (inaudible).
3 MALE SPEAKER 2: I notified Jimmy.
4 MALE SPEAKER: Give him a call. (Inaudible)
5 692 -- our ending mileage was 692323, I'm sorry,
6 6923. Our beginning mileage to head back
7 southwest -- (inaudible) white female (inaudible)
8 same mileage 6923. What was that?
9 MALE SPEAKER 2: Fire truck.
10 THE WITNESS: So when will I know what's
11 going to happen?
12 BY MALE SPEAKER:
13 Q Well, here's the thing. What are you doing
14 tomorrow? Well, no, here's our goal. We would like to at
15 least like to talk to -- help me. We want to try to --
16 A (Inaudible.)
17 Q Right. Tonight.
18 A Tonight I'm free so tomorrow I go to school from
19 12 to 4.
20 Q Uh-huh.
21 A Wednesday I get (inaudible).
22 Q Well, tomorrow what are you doing after 4:00?
23 A Nothing.
24 Q Okay. Do you have to go to work.
25 A (Inaudible) Thursday.
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1 Q Okay. We would prefer to do it sooner than later
2 and our request from you at this point as we move along is
3 really for you to make that phone call and introduce us and
4 say, you know, these are the detectives from the Palm Beach
5 Police Department. I've told them everything. They're on
6 their way to your house. Do you know these girls' schedules
7 by chance? Anything like that? Do they still go to high
8 school?
9 A Well Jen still goes to high school. She's a
10 senior.
11 Q Okay. And that's who we want to speak to tonight.
12 From what you're telling us we're confident Jen will not be
13 going and talking to Jeffrey. Depending on how that goes we
14 might ask give you a call and ask you to make another call.
15 If we could break out the list, make sure we have our little
16 order of obviously Vanessa, based on what you're saying,
17 should be the last on our list. We don't know if she's
18 still --
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: She's in Orlando. We can
20 (inaudible) over the phone.
21 BY MALE SPEAKER:
22 Q Now didn't you say she was back though?
23 A (Inaudible) back. I don't know if she has class
24 tomorrow but I don't know if she left already or not.
25 Q What kind of class? College?
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1 A College. She's up in Orlando. I don't know. She
2 might have already left. What is today? Monday?
3 Q Yeah.
4 A She might have already left today. She had class
5 today.
6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A Yeah, she does. Very rarely to see her parents
8 and stuff. Like she lives up in Orlando. She might come
9 back once a month to visit her parents.
10 Q Now do you talk to Faith at all? Not really?
11 A I hung out with her last night. She came down
12 from college and stuff. But --
13 Q That was Sunday night so she was around just last
14 night.
15 A She was around last night but like I said I
16 don't -- she might be still here, she might be up in Orlando
17 now.
18 Q Okay. What about Serina?
19 A Oh, I don't like her. I don't like her. What
20 about her? She never worked for Jeffrey but she's been to
21 his house before. She knows about it. Knows about
22 everything that went on. She was the one that was with
23 (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. Does Jen Siciliano (inaudible)?
25 A I don't know.
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1 Q Then (inaudible) lives a couple blocks away from
2 you, yeah?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Serina lives (inaudible.)
5 A (Inaudible.)
6 Q Okay. Why are you afraid of (inaudible)?
7 A Oh, no. I'm not afraid -- you know, what it comes
8 down to? It comes down to this. I'm not afraid of any of
9 those girls but when I am with (inaudible) Serina, Serina
10 cries to Lilly and Lilly was brought in to our (inaudible)
11 which was stupid and instead of being (inaudible) about what
12 happened three years ago, Lilly was like I'm going to kick
13 your ass, da da da, and I was like you know what? Leave me
14 alone pretty much. It got ridiculous. I had to change my
15 number and I saw her at (inaudible) one night. She jumped
16 me from behind. I go you didn't say anything to me all
17 night and when she jumped me from behind she jumped me so
18 whatever. Girls are stupid.
19 Q All right. Who else is on that list you got
20 there, Jim? You know a girl named Ashley?
21 A Ashley.
22 (Inaudible cell phone discussion.)
23 A So what if Jen's not home?
24 Q Okay. Well we'll move on. Right now we want you
25 to help us with an order of who in your mind (inaudible)
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1 you're confident was 16 or maybe 17 when they went there,
2 who probably no longer has connections with Jeff (inaudible)
3 who at least maybe a day might keep their mouth shut.
4 A Okay. Well with Serina I don't know how old she
5 is because she lied about her age. She lied to me when I
6 first met her. When I was 18 she told me she was 18.
7 (Inaudible.) Well she left her purse at my house and she
8 told me to make sure that I didn't look in her purse. When
9 I went through her purse I found her state license that said
10 she was 16 so she lied to me about her age. I don't care
11 about work for Jeffrey but --
12 Q We're looking for girls that went upstairs with
13 Jeff.
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Those three or four girls, whatever you can, you
16 know, help us out with here, that is our goal in the next
17 let's say 24 hours.
18 A Okay.
19 Q Is to reach out to as many of those girls and it
20 might be as simple as we give you a call on you cell
21 phone --
22 A And you call them.
23 Q And you say hey, wee need you to call this girl
24 and say we're out front because that's definitely when
25 there's (inaudible) where these girls live tonight so that
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1 we can reach out to them and say hey, Haley, we're out in
2 front of so and so's house, can you give her a call and let
3 her know that there's a couple of detectives outside and no,
4 not kidding, they really are there and heads up. You know
5 what I mean?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q What we'd like to -- we've got a half hour there
8 is we can try to make some details on that so we're all on
9 the same page, that's what we're going to do. So how many
10 girls was on the list that we started with?
11 A You asked me if I knew an Ashley.
12 Q That's what we're going to need is the last names
13 of these girls as well.
14 A I don't know.
15 Q That's okay. Angela?
16 A Angela? I've heard of a girl named Angela but I
17 don't know (inaudible), you know? To my knowledge I don't
18 know. (Inaudible?)
19 Q No. (Inaudible?)
20 A Angela (inaudible) now that I know I know a girl
21 named Angela but I definitely (inaudible) not like that.
22 Q (Inaudible.)
23 A Don't know. I know (inaudible).
24 Q Besides Jen who else ended up upstairs with Jeff?
25 A That's it.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Saige.
3 Q Okay. Saige. Do you know their last names?
4 A Serina's last name I don't know. I don't know
5 (inaudible). Vanessa (inaudible). Faith Pentek. Yolanda
6 Lopez. And I know Jen's brother, (inaudible). I think the
7 last name is Reyes. I don't know if (inaudible) or anything
8 because I know (inaudible). It might be Reyes.
9 Q (Inaudible?)
10 A (Inaudible.)
11 Q (Inaudible.)
12 A (Inaudible.)
13 Q Do you know their phone numbers by chance or do
14 you have them in your phone maybe?
15 A Let me check. Okay. What's the first girl?
16 Q Faith.
17 A Faith? Faith I know by heart. It's 313-3730 and
18 it's a 561.
19 Q Vanessa (inaudible).
20 A Vanessa I don't even have in my phone.
21 Q Serina?
22 A Serina, I know hers by heart. 317-3248. Area
23 code 561.
24 Q How about Yolanda Lopez?
25 A Yolanda Lopez, no, I don't know her number at all.
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1 Q (Inaudible.)
2 A -- 9566. I'm pretty sure that's it because that's
3 the only ones I have.
4 Q Jennifer Reyes?
5 A I know her brother's number but Jennifer Reyes, I
6 don't have her number.
7 Q Is that his cell? Okay.
8 A (Inaudible.) Jennifer will have, Jen Siciliano
9 should have Yolanda Lopez because they hang out.
10 Q They hang out.
11 A Quite a bit. And you should also (inaudible) and
12 Vanessa (inaudible), I know the first three digits it's 635,
13 635, it might be 3454 but I haven't talked to her in a
14 while.
15 Q So if we start with Jen tonight, what you just
16 said is Jen could introduce us to Yolanda who could then
17 introduce us to --
18 A To Jen Reyes.
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: Jen Reyes. Okay. Jen hangs
20 out with Vanessa. Obviously I'm going to talk to
21 Vanessa last.
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23 Q Right. We want to avoid Vanessa at all costs. So
24 my question to you is these three girls --
25 A They all know each other.
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2 A They all know each other.
3 Q Even Vanessa.
4 A They know Vanessa. They know everybody. It's
5 like a group of people who all know each other.
6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A The only one they might not know is (inaudible)
8 but...
9 Q All we've got is the a group of girls that --
10 A They've all heard of each other (inaudible).
11 Q They all go to school with each other to your
12 knowledge?
13 A Some of them. Not all of them but some of them
14 still go to school together.
15 Q Jen Siciliano. Does she still go to school?
16 A She still goes to Royal Palm Beach High School.
17 Q Okay.
18 A Yolanda? I don't know if Yolanda graduated last
19 year or (inaudible) and Jen Reyes I'm not sure. Might have
20 graduated last year. (Inaudible.)
21 Q Okay. So they won't have as much contact as the
22 other group. (Inaudible).
23 A (Inaudible.)
24 Q My office is warm. The bull pen out there is luke
25 warm. Yeah, and it's a twenty-year building so nothing
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2 there's anybody that (inaudible). Vanessa we're not going
3 to talk to.
4 MALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible.)
5 THE WITNESS: (Inaudible) call her open your
6 mouth (inaudible).
7 BY MALE SPEAKER:
8 Q We will absolutely tell them that that they would
9 be expecting an investigation.
10 A The only one that's going to open her mouth is
11 probably Serina. The only one who won't say anything would
12 be Vanessa.
13 Q Are these girls, you know, are they embarrassed
14 about what they've done? Would they rather nobody know if
15 it possible or are they out there flaunting it?
16 A They don't care. These girls don't care. For the
17 most part they don't care.
18 Q Okay.
19 A Otherwise they wouldn't do it.
20 Q I tend to agree but that doesn't mean (inaudible)
21 get in on the action or (inaudible) in general?
22 A (Inaudible.)
23 Q (Inaudible) that (inaudible) call dispatch. A
24 couple of females, get some addresses after we're done with
25 Jen I think (inaudible) talking about next? (Inaudible) oh,
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2 A Well, I don't know (inaudible).
3 Q We should probably try her since she would be
4 leaving. You want to try -- Faith is of to college.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 A -- say anything to you about this (inaudible),
4 right?
5 Q You know we're not argue again. We're not going
6 to keep much from you.
7 A I just don't want to rat anybody out. I'm not an
8 idiot. Come on, now.
9 Q That wasn't more of a ratting out. It was more of
10 a --
11 A (Inaudible.)
12 Q You got it.
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q You're a smart girl.
15 A I'm not an idiot.
16 Q Yeah. No, you're not an idiot.
17 A I guess karma, you know.
18 Q (Inaudible.) I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't
19 even know who he is.
20 A I don't know. It's such a big -- there's so many
21 girls out there that have worked for him it's not even
22 funny.
23 Q Really?
24 A Like I said some bring friends who bring friends
25 who bring friends.
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1 MALE SPEAKER: All right. You notified
2 (inaudible).
3 MALE SPEAKER 2: I notified Jimmy.
4 MALE SPEAKER: Give him a call. (Inaudible)
5 692 -- our ending mileage was 692323, I'm sorry,
6 6923. Our beginning mileage to head back
7 southwest -- (inaudible) white female (inaudible)
8 same mileage 6923. What was that?
9 MALE SPEAKER 2: Fire truck.
10 THE WITNESS: So when will I know what's
11 going to happen?
12 BY MALE SPEAKER:
13 Q Well, here's the thing. What are you doing
14 tomorrow? Well, no, here's our goal. We would like to at
15 least like to talk to -- help me. We want to try to --
16 A (Inaudible.)
17 Q Right. Tonight.
18 A Tonight I'm free so tomorrow I go to school from
19 12 to 4.
20 Q Uh-huh.
21 A Wednesday I get (inaudible).
22 Q Well, tomorrow what are you doing after 4:00?
23 A Nothing.
24 Q Okay. Do you have to go to work.
25 A (Inaudible) Thursday.
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1 Q Okay. We would prefer to do it sooner than later
2 and our request from you at this point as we move along is
3 really for you to make that phone call and introduce us and
4 say, you know, these are the detectives from the Palm Beach
5 Police Department. I've told them everything. They're on
6 their way to your house. Do you know these girls' schedules
7 by chance? Anything like that? Do they still go to high
8 school?
9 A Well Jen still goes to high school. She's a
10 senior.
11 Q Okay. And that's who we want to speak to tonight.
12 From what you're telling us we're confident Jen will not be
13 going and talking to Jeffrey. Depending on how that goes we
14 might ask give you a call and ask you to make another call.
15 If we could break out the list, make sure we have our little
16 order of obviously Vanessa, based on what you're saying,
17 should be the last on our list. We don't know if she's
18 still --
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: She's in Orlando. We can
20 (inaudible) over the phone.
21 BY MALE SPEAKER:
22 Q Now didn't you say she was back though?
23 A (Inaudible) back. I don't know if she has class
24 tomorrow but I don't know if she left already or not.
25 Q What kind of class? College?
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1 A College. She's up in Orlando. I don't know. She
2 might have already left. What is today? Monday?
3 Q Yeah.
4 A She might have already left today. She had class
5 today.
6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A Yeah, she does. Very rarely to see her parents
8 and stuff. Like she lives up in Orlando. She might come
9 back once a month to visit her parents.
10 Q Now do you talk to Faith at all? Not really?
11 A I hung out with her last night. She came down
12 from college and stuff. But --
13 Q That was Sunday night so she was around just last
14 night.
15 A She was around last night but like I said I
16 don't -- she might be still here, she might be up in Orlando
17 now.
18 Q Okay. What about Serina?
19 A Oh, I don't like her. I don't like her. What
20 about her? She never worked for Jeffrey but she's been to
21 his house before. She knows about it. Knows about
22 everything that went on. She was the one that was with
23 (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. Does Jen Siciliano (inaudible)?
25 A I don't know.
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1 Q Then (inaudible) lives a couple blocks away from
2 you, yeah?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Serina lives (inaudible.)
5 A (Inaudible.)
6 Q Okay. Why are you afraid of (inaudible)?
7 A Oh, no. I'm not afraid -- you know, what it comes
8 down to? It comes down to this. I'm not afraid of any of
9 those girls but when I am with (inaudible) Serina, Serina
10 cries to Lilly and Lilly was brought in to our (inaudible)
11 which was stupid and instead of being (inaudible) about what
12 happened three years ago, Lilly was like I'm going to kick
13 your ass, da da da, and I was like you know what? Leave me
14 alone pretty much. It got ridiculous. I had to change my
15 number and I saw her at (inaudible) one night. She jumped
16 me from behind. I go you didn't say anything to me all
17 night and when she jumped me from behind she jumped me so
18 whatever. Girls are stupid.
19 Q All right. Who else is on that list you got
20 there, Jim? You know a girl named Ashley?
21 A Ashley.
22 (Inaudible cell phone discussion.)
23 A So what if Jen's not home?
24 Q Okay. Well we'll move on. Right now we want you
25 to help us with an order of who in your mind (inaudible)
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1 you're confident was 16 or maybe 17 when they went there,
2 who probably no longer has connections with Jeff (inaudible)
3 who at least maybe a day might keep their mouth shut.
4 A Okay. Well with Serina I don't know how old she
5 is because she lied about her age. She lied to me when I
6 first met her. When I was 18 she told me she was 18.
7 (Inaudible.) Well she left her purse at my house and she
8 told me to make sure that I didn't look in her purse. When
9 I went through her purse I found her state license that said
10 she was 16 so she lied to me about her age. I don't care
11 about work for Jeffrey but --
12 Q We're looking for girls that went upstairs with
13 Jeff.
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Those three or four girls, whatever you can, you
16 know, help us out with here, that is our goal in the next
17 let's say 24 hours.
18 A Okay.
19 Q Is to reach out to as many of those girls and it
20 might be as simple as we give you a call on you cell
21 phone --
22 A And you call them.
23 Q And you say hey, wee need you to call this girl
24 and say we're out front because that's definitely when
25 there's (inaudible) where these girls live tonight so that
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1 we can reach out to them and say hey, Haley, we're out in
2 front of so and so's house, can you give her a call and let
3 her know that there's a couple of detectives outside and no,
4 not kidding, they really are there and heads up. You know
5 what I mean?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q What we'd like to -- we've got a half hour there
8 is we can try to make some details on that so we're all on
9 the same page, that's what we're going to do. So how many
10 girls was on the list that we started with?
11 A You asked me if I knew an Ashley.
12 Q That's what we're going to need is the last names
13 of these girls as well.
14 A I don't know.
15 Q That's okay. Angela?
16 A Angela? I've heard of a girl named Angela but I
17 don't know (inaudible), you know? To my knowledge I don't
18 know. (Inaudible?)
19 Q No. (Inaudible?)
20 A Angela (inaudible) now that I know I know a girl
21 named Angela but I definitely (inaudible) not like that.
22 Q (Inaudible.)
23 A Don't know. I know (inaudible).
24 Q Besides Jen who else ended up upstairs with Jeff?
25 A That's it.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Saige.
3 Q Okay. Saige. Do you know their last names?
4 A Serina's last name I don't know. I don't know
5 (inaudible). Vanessa (inaudible). Faith Pentek. Yolanda
6 Lopez. And I know Jen's brother, (inaudible). I think the
7 last name is Reyes. I don't know if (inaudible) or anything
8 because I know (inaudible). It might be Reyes.
9 Q (Inaudible?)
10 A (Inaudible.)
11 Q (Inaudible.)
12 A (Inaudible.)
13 Q Do you know their phone numbers by chance or do
14 you have them in your phone maybe?
15 A Let me check. Okay. What's the first girl?
16 Q Faith.
17 A Faith? Faith I know by heart. It's 313-3730 and
18 it's a 561.
19 Q Vanessa (inaudible).
20 A Vanessa I don't even have in my phone.
21 Q Serina?
22 A Serina, I know hers by heart. 317-3248. Area
23 code 561.
24 Q How about Yolanda Lopez?
25 A Yolanda Lopez, no, I don't know her number at all.
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2 A -- 9566. I'm pretty sure that's it because that's
3 the only ones I have.
4 Q Jennifer Reyes?
5 A I know her brother's number but Jennifer Reyes, I
6 don't have her number.
7 Q Is that his cell? Okay.
8 A (Inaudible.) Jennifer will have, Jen Siciliano
9 should have Yolanda Lopez because they hang out.
10 Q They hang out.
11 A Quite a bit. And you should also (inaudible) and
12 Vanessa (inaudible), I know the first three digits it's 635,
13 635, it might be 3454 but I haven't talked to her in a
14 while.
15 Q So if we start with Jen tonight, what you just
16 said is Jen could introduce us to Yolanda who could then
17 introduce us to --
18 A To Jen Reyes.
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: Jen Reyes. Okay. Jen hangs
20 out with Vanessa. Obviously I'm going to talk to
21 Vanessa last.
22 BY MALE SPEAKER:
23 Q Right. We want to avoid Vanessa at all costs. So
24 my question to you is these three girls --
25 A They all know each other.
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2 A They all know each other.
3 Q Even Vanessa.
4 A They know Vanessa. They know everybody. It's
5 like a group of people who all know each other.
6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A The only one they might not know is (inaudible)
8 but...
9 Q All we've got is the a group of girls that --
10 A They've all heard of each other (inaudible).
11 Q They all go to school with each other to your
12 knowledge?
13 A Some of them. Not all of them but some of them
14 still go to school together.
15 Q Jen Siciliano. Does she still go to school?
16 A She still goes to Royal Palm Beach High School.
17 Q Okay.
18 A Yolanda? I don't know if Yolanda graduated last
19 year or (inaudible) and Jen Reyes I'm not sure. Might have
20 graduated last year. (Inaudible.)
21 Q Okay. So they won't have as much contact as the
22 other group. (Inaudible).
23 A (Inaudible.)
24 Q My office is warm. The bull pen out there is luke
25 warm. Yeah, and it's a twenty-year building so nothing
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1 really circulates as it should. (Inaudible) in the car. If
2 there's anybody that (inaudible). Vanessa we're not going
3 to talk to.
4 MALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible.)
5 THE WITNESS: (Inaudible) call her open your
6 mouth (inaudible).
7 BY MALE SPEAKER:
8 Q We will absolutely tell them that that they would
9 be expecting an investigation.
10 A The only one that's going to open her mouth is
11 probably Serina. The only one who won't say anything would
12 be Vanessa.
13 Q Are these girls, you know, are they embarrassed
14 about what they've done? Would they rather nobody know if
15 it possible or are they out there flaunting it?
16 A They don't care. These girls don't care. For the
17 most part they don't care.
18 Q Okay.
19 A Otherwise they wouldn't do it.
20 Q I tend to agree but that doesn't mean (inaudible)
21 get in on the action or (inaudible) in general?
22 A (Inaudible.)
23 Q (Inaudible) that (inaudible) call dispatch. A
24 couple of females, get some addresses after we're done with
25 Jen I think (inaudible) talking about next? (Inaudible) oh,
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2 A Well, I don't know (inaudible).
3 Q We should probably try her since she would be
4 leaving. You want to try -- Faith is of to college.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 A -- in charge of the cars, the swimming pool, the
4 grounds and so I was basically, you know, the only one in
5 charge when they were away too.
6 Q Okay. He's not here much though.
7 A No. He has several houses.
8 Q Right. Did you stay on property?
9 A Yes, I did.
10 Q Okay. In the guest house section?
11 A Yes. Guest house.
12 Q Okay. Which is the house --
13 A Exactly.
14 Q -- just next to the kitchen door.
15 A Exactly.
16 Q Right?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Right outside.
19 A Next to the kitchen.
20 Q Okay. During your time of employment there, what
21 was your relationship with Mr. Epstein like?
22 A Well, he mostly wanted to be alone unless
23 important matter so sometimes I will have to call New York
24 to his secretary to call his personal assistant so I could
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1 floor when he was there most of the time.
2 Q All right. So if he was in residence and he was
3 in his room in the master bedroom --
4 A Yes.
5 Q -- and you needed to speak to him, you couldn't?
6 A No, I couldn't knock. That was requested for all
7 of us. For, you know, there were four people at the time
8 helping me and running the compound.
9 Q Who were the four people that were helping you?
10 A (inaudible) who is the housekeeper I think is
11 still with him and then (inaudible) guy with me and Jerome.
12 Q Uh-huh.
13 A And those are full time. And then we have the
14 swimming pool lady used to come three or four times a week.
15 Q Okay.
16 A And the gardener. His name is (inaudible) I
17 forget his name. A guy who you lives in Wellington.
18 Q Okay.
19 A He would be most of the days but when he left they
20 weren't supposed to be there, you know.
21 Q Okay. So who would you call in New York to get a
22 hold of --
23 A Leslie.
24 Q Leslie?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q That's his secretary?
2 A That's his secretary.
3 Q In New York?
4 A Yes. 264 Madison Avenue is the address.
5 Q Okay. And then she would call his assistant?
6 A I guess that was Sarah. She still is. That's his
7 personal assistant.
8 Q Okay. Describe Sarah for me, if you can.
9 A Sarah is a very young, beautiful. I think she was
10 born in North Carolina.
11 Q Uh-huh.
12 A Very spirited, beautiful girl inside and out.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she is?
14 A Sarah I think 24, 23, something like that.
15 Q Okay. All right. And then she would in turn tell
16 Mr. Epstein that you need to see him?
17 A Yes, exactly. We weren't supposed to bother him
18 unless was a real -- he will get not angry but I mean he
19 wouldn't like any of us going upstairs and when we notice he
20 will go away then we will go upstairs and fix the room, you
21 know, make sure we clean everything up.
22 Q Okay. If he had guests come over and they went
23 upstairs, after he left his room would you go upstairs and
24 tidy up or --
25 A Well, I will greet them and I will be sure who are
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1 them and they usually give me a list of the people who will
2 go and I will make them feel comfortable in the kitchen,
3 offer them a drink, and he can sometimes he will give me
4 orders to send people upstairs.
5 Q Okay. So they would go upstairs. First of all,
6 who would give you a list of people who were coming?
7 A Sarah.
8 Q Sarah.?
9 A She would say at that time so and so is coming.
10 Q And then you'll make them comfortable in the
11 kitchen and either he would come down or Sarah would come
12 down?
13 A Yes. And at that time I will go to the staff
14 house or another part of the house and he will take over,
15 you know, the cabana or the swimming pool.
16 Q Okay. When the guests would leave and Mr. Epstein
17 would come down stairs, would you go upstairs to clean or
18 tidy up?
19 A No. Not with him there in the bedroom.
20 Q No. What I'm saying he would come downstairs.
21 A Yeah. Sometimes (inaudible). Sometimes we need
22 to be there but not be heard so we run upstairs and pick up
23 the towels and clear the beds and bathroom and everything
24 because we have a manual that everything has to be tidy in a
25 certain way so that's our routine.
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1 Q Okay. When he was in residence, would there be
2 certain girls coming by to go see him for massages?
3 A Yes. Most every day.
4 Q Every day?
5 A Yes.
6 Q When he would be in residence?
7 A One in the morning, one in the afternoon give
8 massage.
9 Q Twice a day.
10 A Yes.
11 Q Okay. Okay. Describe these girls to me.
12 A He will have prior to me coming to the house he
13 will for some reasons he will pick out from a long list I
14 guess a lot of people that like to do work (inaudible).
15 They will give massage sometimes to him and his companion
16 and they were nice in the sense of you know I remember one
17 there was (inaudible) that live here in Palm Beach Gardens I
18 guess. She was very nice. I mean usually the people there,
19 you know, general nice people.
20 Q Okay. Did they appear young to you?
21 A Yes. They were young. You know, (inaudible) all
22 of them. Twenty-eight or something like that.
23 Q Anybody younger than 18?
24 A You had to say that, sir. You know there were a
25 lot of girls that were very, very young but you know for me
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1 to say they were minors, you know, you know, I never see
2 their driver's license. They look very young.
3 Q Do you recall any of the names of the girls?
4 A I have to -- see I have some notes that I have a
5 manual because I used to call in once in a while and I don't
6 recall right at this moment but I know who they are and some
7 live in town.
8 Q In Palm Beach or --
9 A Some are west Wellington or one was in high school
10 in Royal Palm Beach High School I think it's called.
11 Q Okay. Do you remember that girl's name?
12 A I rent a car to her but I don't -- to be honest
13 with you I don't remember exactly. I have --
14 Q You rented a car for her?
15 A Yeah, he ask me to rent a car for her.
16 Q Do you know what kind of car it was?
17 A It was a Dodge Neon.
18 Q A Dodge Neon. Color?
19 A I think it was a blue Neon from Dollar Rent-a-Car.
20 Q From Dollar?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A It was my driver's license that I use so...
24 Q Did you add that person as an additional driver or
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2 Q So that person was an additional driver?
3 A Yes. Exactly.
4 Q Okay. Was this at the direction of Mr. Epstein
5 or --
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. And Mr. Epstein --
8 A Whatever I do I have to be (inaudible).
9 Q Right. Okay. How long ago was it? Do you
10 remember?
11 A This was I think January of 2005 or February
12 because I had to go back then because it was the rental
13 company they call me because the rental was expiring so I
14 need to go to rent for another month so she rent for another
15 two weeks.
16 Q Okay. Do you remember this girl's name?
17 A I know but I mean I probably have to sit down.
18 There's so many. But I can't keep everything in my head.
19 Q How many girls would you say came over, different
20 girls?
21 A With him (inaudible) easily four or five.
22 Q No, while he was in residence come over and give a
23 massage.
24 A Sometimes as many as 15 but exact because sometime
25 I was away, I was supposed to only bar tend and staff house
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1 and even the chef came to the staff house and we were
2 supposed to be there because, you know, they go to the
3 swimming pool, you know, (inaudible) to go and say, you
4 know, if he call me I would go in but (inaudible) and like
5 that.
6 Q Okay. So they would go out to the pool?
7 A Yeah. Well this is the thing that we used to
8 sneak because once they leave it's like we are behind the
9 scenes and necessarily people, you know.
10 Q Okay. Who was the chef then?
11 A David. David what is his last name? He came from
12 New York with him.
13 Q He flies in with him?
14 A Yes.
15 Q Okay. All right. Okay. When they would come
16 over to do a massage, you say it was twice a day when he was
17 in town. One in the morning, one in the afternoon?
18 A Yes.
19 Q When he would leave the room, would you go
20 upstairs and straighten up?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Did he have his massage table?
23 A Yes. He had several massage tables. We would put
24 them away, we pick up the towels, the small towels, the
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1 Q Okay. Was there anything else that you would have
2 to pick up in the room?
3 A Everything that was on the floor. You know, but
4 what include that while cleaning the room sometimes we used
5 to find items that we were supposed to label where we find
6 them and everything else but when (inaudible) came to town
7 he wanted those items to be returned but sometimes he was
8 getting upset because (inaudible). So it was kind of a
9 catch 22. We used to keep them in the laundry room for a
10 while but nobody claim them.
11 Q When you cleaned the room, was there other things
12 that you would pick up aside from the massage stuff? Was
13 there any like sex toys?
14 A No, sir. They was only in one place. I never
15 find them on the floor.
16 Q Okay. Would you have to pick those things up when
17 he was done?
18 A No, I never saw one on the floor. They were only
19 one place and I never see them out of the --
20 Q Okay. And he, you know, vibrators, massagers?
21 A Well, he had a lot of vibrators for his body.
22 They were laying all over the floor. We pick up those, put
23 them in the recharger and there was procedure to put
24 everything in its place and you know, dry set of towels, and
25 that was a heavy job I have to say because there was a lot
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2 Q The departure from his employment, was that a good
3 thing?
4 A I was burned out, sir. I was burned out because I
5 was hired to have staff and work under a staff and he had me
6 breakfast at 6:30 in the morning. Sometimes he'd call me to
7 fix him a meal at 10:00 p.m. or so and the next day
8 3:00 o'clock early and I'm a married man so my wife was in
9 Miami I was looking for a day job and so that's the thing
10 after six months I was beginning to feel burn out. But I
11 think I served him well, with loyalty, discretion. You know
12 we have to sign a confidential agreement.
13 Q There was an agreement?
14 A Yes, sir. I would say to come here because I know
15 you're the law but we signed that and I don't know if we
16 have any repercussions from talking about this but I know
17 you are the badge so...
18 Q Well, also you're under subpoena so were you
19 contacted by anybody from the house after we spoke or before
20 we spoke?
21 A I called him and I was telling him -- I was very
22 curious and I know what I'm getting into but I was starting
23 to tell him there's some investigation and he told me well
24 you know, what do you know. And I said well, the head of my
25 security department is going to contact you. So I get this
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1 gentleman by the name of Bill Riley (phonetic). He contact
2 me and we spend a good two hours going through the hotel.
3 Q Okay.
4 A And we spoke this morning too but that was my
5 direct link to him. And when I was subpoenaed for today I
6 tried to contact him but he never received it. He was
7 outside by there. Told us not to talk to anybody. This is
8 all the communication I had with him.
9 Q You spoke with Mr. Riley again today?
10 A Yes. Yes. I told him that I was closed and where
11 was the building and that's what I ask him and he said fine,
12 so call me when you're done. That was it.
13 Q What is it that he wants you to know? What is it
14 he wants --
15 A He said he wanted to provide me an attorney and
16 then my wife told me you don't need an attorney.
17 Q Right.
18 A Because you haven't done anything wrong so that's
19 the reason, you know, I never been in this situation before
20 so I (inaudible) because you not hide anything.
21 Q Okay. What is it that Mr. Riley wanted to know
22 from you?
23 A Why I don't want an attorney. I say I don't have
24 nothing to hide, you know, so I'm going to be honest. I
25 didn't -- what I did, you know, I'm a working man. I work
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1 for another old man millionaire in Fort Lauderdale and you
2 can check my background and everything. I don't want to
3 think that my job that I'm doing something that was illegal
4 or something like that.
5 Q Okay. You know you're not compelled to speak with
6 Mr. Riley if he's a private investigator. You don't have to
7 speak to him if you don't want to. You know? And what we
8 discuss here I hope that would stay between us. It's an
9 ongoing investigation. Mr. Riley wants to know what I'm
10 doing, I'll give you my card. He can call me. Okay?
11 A Okay.
12 Q When you spoke with him you said you spoke to him
13 two hours at the hotel. What is it that he wanted to know
14 from you?
15 A Well he took notes on a pad like that and he said
16 how long I was employed. He probably knew what I did over
17 there but he asked me you know some questions like you ask
18 me about people who went there and what was my routine and
19 so he said what do I think and I say I don't know. Then
20 again he didn't ask me for names but, you know, he took a
21 lot of notes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A We spend a good two hours there.
24 Q When you would go upstairs to clean the bedroom
25 area, you know that there was some vibrators slash
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1 massagers, sex toys in the bedroom. Where were they kept?
2 A In front of his bed there's a dresser that he open
3 and he had videos and toys.
4 Q Okay. In your opinion do you feel that there was
5 more than just a massage going on in the room?
6 A We all did. We all did. But it was kept under
7 such tight because he would close his shutter. No lights in
8 his room on the second floor. No natural light. And when
9 he left we opened that and let the whole thing air out but
10 he was always (inaudible) needed to be closed.
11 Q How did you get employed with Mr. Epstein? How
12 did you know about him?
13 A I had two friends. I was born in Bolivia, South
14 America, and I have two friends of mine who were working for
15 the Leon Black in New York and he said looked like he had a
16 couple of Philipinos that they stole from him in the past
17 and so he was looking for a very, you know, people like me
18 he can rely because we used to keep a lot of cash in the
19 house. There were guns. But I was the only one opening and
20 closing the safe because he (inaudible) 10,000 from the safe
21 (inaudible) open. And you know that was another thing but
22 he never lost -- I never lost a penny but I was in charge of
23 anyone going and open the safe (inaudible) and so I was
24 referred by the Leon Black recommendation.
25 Q Okay. Is there any relation to the Black out of
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1 Miami (inaudible)?
2 A He owns a company called Apollo. He has a
3 compound (inaudible). That's where he open.
4 Q Okay.
5 A That's how I came on board.
6 Q This Maxwell, is that his --
7 A He's (inaudible) for 14 years but they're not
8 married so sometimes he will have to go to another bedroom
9 (inaudible) another.
10 Q Right.
11 A -- their relationship.
12 Q Like when there was a massage or some girl was
13 over?
14 A Yeah. And she will take a second place and
15 somehow (inaudible) and I have to say that talking from my
16 heart they make a beautiful couple. We try to say happy
17 merry Christmas but they always have (inaudible).
18 Q What, when you said he would become upset when
19 things were moved, what kind of things were moved?
20 A Lingerie. Intimate apparel from the girls.
21 Q Stuff that the girls would leave there?
22 A Yes. Under the bed or you know because we have to
23 clean. We have to turn everything we found. (Inaudible)
24 because the rooms they have colors so the yellow room or the
25 white room, or the (inaudible) room and so (inaudible).
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1 Q So these are like either panties or --
2 A Yes. Exactly.
3 Q -- bras, that type of thing?
4 A Most of the time because they're small.
5 Q But who wanted to hold on to them?
6 A It was in the manual, sir. I don't know.
7 Somebody wrote a manual.
8 Q Who did you turn it in to?
9 A We put it in the laundry room but sometimes they
10 were so busy and they stay there for a week but we mention
11 that we found something but we knew that that was going to
12 upset her so sometimes we don't mention that but they were
13 there. If he ask what do you find, go over there.
14 Q But you would turn it to Ms. Maxwell or --
15 A Ms. Maxwell. No. No. He didn't want to see
16 those things.
17 Q Okay. Was there ever any men masseuses that came
18 to give him massages?
19 A No, sir. No. I never see it. No.
20 Q Okay. Have you -- did Mr. Riley or Mr. Epstein
21 promise you anything or offer you any gifts in exchange not
22 to speak to me?
23 A No, sir. No.
24 Q Have they offered you anything?
25 A No.
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1 Q Okay. All right. And during your six months, you
2 felt approximately 15 girls, how many times would you say
3 you saw them?
4 A (Inaudible) because when I greet them because I
5 was supposed to answer the phone and the door so I saw them.
6 It's mind boggling because there's so many names you have to
7 remember and the rotation so they traveled with him and some
8 they come back. Sometimes, you know, I have to -- he will
9 tell me Alfredo you should go to Worth Avenue. Carry my
10 checkbook and buy them stuff on Worth Avenue for them or I
11 rent a plane for two hours make him happy.
12 Q And they would go on trips?
13 A They would go on trips, yes. He owns an island in
14 St. Thomas. He owns a house in France. The biggest house
15 in Manhattan and in Mexico and Palm Beach.
16 Q Okay. Did any of these girls ever fly with him to
17 New York or anywhere else?
18 A Oh, yes. Yes. All the time.
19 Q Okay. Was it the girl that you rented a car for?
20 A She went to New York I think or the island. But
21 I'm not sure but yeah.
22 Q Okay. Any other girl that you can think of might
23 have gone on trips with him?
24 A Well, all of them did. You know, they can
25 actually -- (inaudible) talk to the chief pilot. He would
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2 (inaudible) there next to (inaudible) so we arrange -- we
3 were going to one Mercedes he would drive himself with three
4 girls and I would (inaudible) because usually I was supposed
5 to follow him if he will go someplace and I would follow
6 with the rest of the girls and the baggage in the other car
7 and sometimes I would help the Jet Aviation guy (inaudible)
8 Palm Beach but I didn't know how many were coming because
9 that was another thing I needed to prepare the meals, have
10 flowers in the house so you never know because sometimes
11 when the chef wouldn't come I need to double chef like
12 butler.
13 Q You were man of many hats.
14 A Exactly. I was the driver, security, and I have
15 to say I went to the Palm Beach Police Department one time
16 because I was by myself and he will give cash gifts to
17 girls. I came back from Publix and I found an old car in
18 the driveway and sometimes we used to keep the gate open
19 because they have the sensor not to bother so we leave it
20 open so I found this car and I was walking inside saying
21 hello, hello. I found this girl, very young, with an older
22 boyfriend (inaudible). And then he got upset why I went to
23 the police department but I went for security because
24 (inaudible) I was supposed to be carrying $2,000 in my
25 pocket to tip taxi drivers, girls and everything else so
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2 Q How much would you give them when they would come
3 by for a tip?
4 A 400, 500, 600, a thousand. Sarah would tell me
5 the amount.
6 Q Would Mr. Epstein pay them personally for the
7 massage or would you pay them for the massage?
8 A I will pay them.
9 Q You would pay them?
10 A Yes. Per Sarah.
11 Q Per Sarah?
12 A I didn't have any cash on the weekend so they told
13 me get into the safe and get but that was my petty cash
14 because we were supposed to have all the money (inaudible).
15 Q Okay.
16 A So when he told me that, when he left he said pay
17 this girl and (inaudible) and that's something that upset
18 with me because I went to the police because they were not
19 masseuses. They were something else.
20 Q Okay. Did you feel that they were masseuses?
21 A No. Some they were and some they weren't.
22 Q Okay. Out of the 15 people that you saw during
23 your six months, how many of those would you say were not
24 masseuses?
25 A The majority.
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2 A The majority.
3 Q Did you ever see any money exchange for massages?
4 A No. He will tell me get some money but then I
5 will get out of the house and (inaudible) on the floor with
6 no money.
7 Q Okay. So in essence Mr. Epstein or his assistant
8 would then pay them because you would leave the house,
9 right?
10 A Exactly. That's exactly true.
11 Q Okay. So you were given the cash but he would
12 actually be the one to pay them?
13 A I would pay some of them because he was shopping
14 or doing something and say give this to Susan or 300, 500,
15 600, and so I make envelopes. But my girls at the time I
16 give them the cash and he would never touch the money most
17 of the time.
18 I have to say this, I don't know, I went to high
19 school, sir, taking flowers to the girls. But I feel I have
20 two daughters myself and at that time (inaudible) know what
21 (inaudible) I have a friend who work on Worth Avenue and she
22 says that's where my daughter goes so I took expensive roses
23 but then I realize she was probably very young. And she was
24 in the house.
25 Q And she provided him (inaudible)?
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2 him. Most of the time they (inaudible) next to the master
3 bedroom and they will sometimes I would go and knock on the
4 door and nobody would answer. Then I find two young girls
5 naked in thongs or something like they were on the table. I
6 get out of the house and I tell everybody don't go up there
7 until he left too (inaudible).
8 Q So you've taken flowers. Have you taken anything
9 else to the high school? Which high school was that?
10 A Royal Palm Beach.
11 Q Royal Palm Beach High School?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Do you remember who the flowers were for?
14 A I do remember but I don't have the name with me
15 right now. It was like end of the year they make like a
16 play.
17 Q Uh-huh.
18 A You know and they were supposed to say this is
19 from Jeffrey and congratulations and leave. You know? But
20 (inaudible) who I am because it's a black Mercedes, this and
21 that, so that was one instance that I feel awkward because I
22 can identify. I have two girls.
23 Q And he knew that this girl was going to Royal Palm
24 Beach High School?
25 A I don't think he did. I don't know that he know
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2 flowers from this place on Clematis (inaudible) flowers, the
3 place to buy the flowers. So I went over there but you
4 know.
5 Q Did you deliver anything else to the school other
6 than the flowers?
7 A No. That was the only time I went there.
8 Q His assistant's name was Sarah obviously. He has
9 another friend slash assistant by the name of Nadia.
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Does that ring a bell to you?
12 A Oh, yeah.
13 Q What is she to him?
14 A (Inaudible) the girlfriend of (inaudible) is
15 different because it's like he will do special things with
16 her, travel only with her, (inaudible) very, very young. So
17 by the time when I finish my employment, that was the
18 girlfriend that took the place of all the others.
19 Q So she would have obviously she would sleep in his
20 room and everything?
21 A Well sometimes she will because we pick up his
22 bathrobe in her --
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2 A No, because when the massage was going on
3 everything was on the second floor. I never see them. No.
4 Q Okay. You have this stuff written down in a book?
5 You said a manual?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. Is it possible that you can provide me with
8 that book?
9 A Yes, sir.
10 Q Do you have it with you now or down in Miami?
11 A I have it in my house.
12 Q Okay. I would definitely would like to take a
13 look at that book.
14 A I have to say this.
15 Q This will help me.
16 A I had a hint that (inaudible) about that. I have
17 to say also that these friend of mine that work in
18 (inaudible) is a long-time friend of mine and (inaudible)
19 also I delivered the flowers, he said do not say anything
20 because they can take action against you and I want to put
21 this on the record because, you know, they're so powerful
22 that they can make my job disappear or make something go
23 wrong. So I'm beginning to be on the afraid -- I'm a grown
24 up man but, you know, you are afraid because we are all
25 little people to them and that's (inaudible) so I just want
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2 hope this doesn't come back.
3 Q First of all let me just alleviate your fears, you
4 are not a suspect, I am not looking at to put any charges on
5 you whatsoever. At this point you're just a witness to me
6 and that's why I just wanted to speak to you. Okay? You're
7 not a suspect. You're not in any trouble. Okay?
8 As far as Mrs. Epstein being powerful, he's just a
9 man. He puts on his pants just like you and me. Okay? The
10 fact that his checkbook is a little fatter than ours, that's
11 how it goes but that doesn't mean he's above the law. Okay?
12 And that's the extent of it. He is not a brain surgeon as
13 he's told people. He's a money man and that's it. He takes
14 money and invests money and he makes money doing it. That's
15 it. That's the extent of it. That's the extent of his
16 power. All right? So you shouldn't fear him. That's
17 basically it. He's just a man just like you and me.
18 A Yeah. I hope he doesn't take actions against me
19 because you know I can lose a main -- I have a book, sir,
20 that he used to give to (inaudible) and there are certain
21 people (inaudible). But anyway in this book is the masseuse
22 that he preferred (inaudible) contact these people.
23 Q That is something I would be very interested in.
24 I'm going to give you my card. I left one on your door when
25 I went down there.
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1 A Yes, I saw that. My wife got scared thinking
2 something happened.
3 Q Right. And I tried to explain to your wife and I
4 told her the same thing you're not in any trouble
5 whatsoever. I did want to talk to you.
6 Do you feel that you had to call the investigator?
7 Did they tell you you had to call the investigator?
8 A He told me please call back but you know now that
9 we've spoken I have all these fears that I thought I knew --
10 I didn't know. I wasn't sure exactly of the investigation
11 so I don't think I have to call him back.
12 Q You don't have to call him. You're under no
13 obligation to call him. Okay? You don't have to speak to
14 them. If they come knocking on your door you can just say
15 look, I don't want to speak to you, get off my property and
16 call me if you'd like. Call me and I'll tell him hey, he
17 doesn't want to speak to you. That's it. I don't want you
18 to feel that you have to call him. Obviously what we
19 discussed stays between us. I'd like to take a look at that
20 book. I'd be willing to drive down to Miami, take a look at
21 it and give it right back to you.
22 A I used to keep the receipt from this rental
23 company but you know it's a long time I coul throw it away
24 but I'm pretty sure I have it.
25 Q Right.
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2 Airport, the plane and the store that I went to.
3 Q What other stores did you go to? I mean were they
4 with you when you went to the stores?
5 A Usually he will drive around because he will stay
6 in the car. He's a person that doesn't like to be seen so
7 he will send somebody what does he like then tell Alfredo to
8 buy it for you. (Inaudible.)
9 Q Okay. Did you have to buy them negligees or under
10 garments?
11 A No. Sarah would buy something like that.
12 Q Sarah is the one that would always buy stuff like
13 that? Okay. Jewelry?
14 A No. I (inaudible) something like that.
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16 Q The girl you bought the flowers for, was it the
17 same girl that you rented the car for?
18 A Yes.
19 Q All right. You have my card. You know what? I'm
20 going to give you my cell phone as well. Okay? It's on
21 24/7. It's on 24 hours a day. You can call me any time you
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23 MALE SPEAKER: At this time I'll conclude
24 your statement. The time by my watch is, hold on,
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3 A -- in charge of the cars, the swimming pool, the
4 grounds and so I was basically, you know, the only one in
5 charge when they were away too.
6 Q Okay. He's not here much though.
7 A No. He has several houses.
8 Q Right. Did you stay on property?
9 A Yes, I did.
10 Q Okay. In the guest house section?
11 A Yes. Guest house.
12 Q Okay. Which is the house --
13 A Exactly.
14 Q -- just next to the kitchen door.
15 A Exactly.
16 Q Right?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Right outside.
19 A Next to the kitchen.
20 Q Okay. During your time of employment there, what
21 was your relationship with Mr. Epstein like?
22 A Well, he mostly wanted to be alone unless
23 important matter so sometimes I will have to call New York
24 to his secretary to call his personal assistant so I could
25 talk to him because we're not supposed to go to the second
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1 floor when he was there most of the time.
2 Q All right. So if he was in residence and he was
3 in his room in the master bedroom --
4 A Yes.
5 Q -- and you needed to speak to him, you couldn't?
6 A No, I couldn't knock. That was requested for all
7 of us. For, you know, there were four people at the time
8 helping me and running the compound.
9 Q Who were the four people that were helping you?
10 A (inaudible) who is the housekeeper I think is
11 still with him and then (inaudible) guy with me and Jerome.
12 Q Uh-huh.
13 A And those are full time. And then we have the
14 swimming pool lady used to come three or four times a week.
15 Q Okay.
16 A And the gardener. His name is (inaudible) I
17 forget his name. A guy who you lives in Wellington.
18 Q Okay.
19 A He would be most of the days but when he left they
20 weren't supposed to be there, you know.
21 Q Okay. So who would you call in New York to get a
22 hold of --
23 A Leslie.
24 Q Leslie?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q That's his secretary?
2 A That's his secretary.
3 Q In New York?
4 A Yes. 264 Madison Avenue is the address.
5 Q Okay. And then she would call his assistant?
6 A I guess that was Sarah. She still is. That's his
7 personal assistant.
8 Q Okay. Describe Sarah for me, if you can.
9 A Sarah is a very young, beautiful. I think she was
10 born in North Carolina.
11 Q Uh-huh.
12 A Very spirited, beautiful girl inside and out.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she is?
14 A Sarah I think 24, 23, something like that.
15 Q Okay. All right. And then she would in turn tell
16 Mr. Epstein that you need to see him?
17 A Yes, exactly. We weren't supposed to bother him
18 unless was a real -- he will get not angry but I mean he
19 wouldn't like any of us going upstairs and when we notice he
20 will go away then we will go upstairs and fix the room, you
21 know, make sure we clean everything up.
22 Q Okay. If he had guests come over and they went
23 upstairs, after he left his room would you go upstairs and
24 tidy up or --
25 A Well, I will greet them and I will be sure who are
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1 them and they usually give me a list of the people who will
2 go and I will make them feel comfortable in the kitchen,
3 offer them a drink, and he can sometimes he will give me
4 orders to send people upstairs.
5 Q Okay. So they would go upstairs. First of all,
6 who would give you a list of people who were coming?
7 A Sarah.
8 Q Sarah.?
9 A She would say at that time so and so is coming.
10 Q And then you'll make them comfortable in the
11 kitchen and either he would come down or Sarah would come
12 down?
13 A Yes. And at that time I will go to the staff
14 house or another part of the house and he will take over,
15 you know, the cabana or the swimming pool.
16 Q Okay. When the guests would leave and Mr. Epstein
17 would come down stairs, would you go upstairs to clean or
18 tidy up?
19 A No. Not with him there in the bedroom.
20 Q No. What I'm saying he would come downstairs.
21 A Yeah. Sometimes (inaudible). Sometimes we need
22 to be there but not be heard so we run upstairs and pick up
23 the towels and clear the beds and bathroom and everything
24 because we have a manual that everything has to be tidy in a
25 certain way so that's our routine.
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1 Q Okay. When he was in residence, would there be
2 certain girls coming by to go see him for massages?
3 A Yes. Most every day.
4 Q Every day?
5 A Yes.
6 Q When he would be in residence?
7 A One in the morning, one in the afternoon give
8 massage.
9 Q Twice a day.
10 A Yes.
11 Q Okay. Okay. Describe these girls to me.
12 A He will have prior to me coming to the house he
13 will for some reasons he will pick out from a long list I
14 guess a lot of people that like to do work (inaudible).
15 They will give massage sometimes to him and his companion
16 and they were nice in the sense of you know I remember one
17 there was (inaudible) that live here in Palm Beach Gardens I
18 guess. She was very nice. I mean usually the people there,
19 you know, general nice people.
20 Q Okay. Did they appear young to you?
21 A Yes. They were young. You know, (inaudible) all
22 of them. Twenty-eight or something like that.
23 Q Anybody younger than 18?
24 A You had to say that, sir. You know there were a
25 lot of girls that were very, very young but you know for me
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2 their driver's license. They look very young.
3 Q Do you recall any of the names of the girls?
4 A I have to -- see I have some notes that I have a
5 manual because I used to call in once in a while and I don't
6 recall right at this moment but I know who they are and some
7 live in town.
8 Q In Palm Beach or --
9 A Some are west Wellington or one was in high school
10 in Royal Palm Beach High School I think it's called.
11 Q Okay. Do you remember that girl's name?
12 A I rent a car to her but I don't -- to be honest
13 with you I don't remember exactly. I have --
14 Q You rented a car for her?
15 A Yeah, he ask me to rent a car for her.
16 Q Do you know what kind of car it was?
17 A It was a Dodge Neon.
18 Q A Dodge Neon. Color?
19 A I think it was a blue Neon from Dollar Rent-a-Car.
20 Q From Dollar?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A It was my driver's license that I use so...
24 Q Did you add that person as an additional driver or
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1 A Yeah.
2 Q So that person was an additional driver?
3 A Yes. Exactly.
4 Q Okay. Was this at the direction of Mr. Epstein
5 or --
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. And Mr. Epstein --
8 A Whatever I do I have to be (inaudible).
9 Q Right. Okay. How long ago was it? Do you
10 remember?
11 A This was I think January of 2005 or February
12 because I had to go back then because it was the rental
13 company they call me because the rental was expiring so I
14 need to go to rent for another month so she rent for another
15 two weeks.
16 Q Okay. Do you remember this girl's name?
17 A I know but I mean I probably have to sit down.
18 There's so many. But I can't keep everything in my head.
19 Q How many girls would you say came over, different
20 girls?
21 A With him (inaudible) easily four or five.
22 Q No, while he was in residence come over and give a
23 massage.
24 A Sometimes as many as 15 but exact because sometime
25 I was away, I was supposed to only bar tend and staff house
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1 and even the chef came to the staff house and we were
2 supposed to be there because, you know, they go to the
3 swimming pool, you know, (inaudible) to go and say, you
4 know, if he call me I would go in but (inaudible) and like
5 that.
6 Q Okay. So they would go out to the pool?
7 A Yeah. Well this is the thing that we used to
8 sneak because once they leave it's like we are behind the
9 scenes and necessarily people, you know.
10 Q Okay. Who was the chef then?
11 A David. David what is his last name? He came from
12 New York with him.
13 Q He flies in with him?
14 A Yes.
15 Q Okay. All right. Okay. When they would come
16 over to do a massage, you say it was twice a day when he was
17 in town. One in the morning, one in the afternoon?
18 A Yes.
19 Q When he would leave the room, would you go
20 upstairs and straighten up?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Did he have his massage table?
23 A Yes. He had several massage tables. We would put
24 them away, we pick up the towels, the small towels, the
25 massage oils and, you know.
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1 Q Okay. Was there anything else that you would have
2 to pick up in the room?
3 A Everything that was on the floor. You know, but
4 what include that while cleaning the room sometimes we used
5 to find items that we were supposed to label where we find
6 them and everything else but when (inaudible) came to town
7 he wanted those items to be returned but sometimes he was
8 getting upset because (inaudible). So it was kind of a
9 catch 22. We used to keep them in the laundry room for a
10 while but nobody claim them.
11 Q When you cleaned the room, was there other things
12 that you would pick up aside from the massage stuff? Was
13 there any like sex toys?
14 A No, sir. They was only in one place. I never
15 find them on the floor.
16 Q Okay. Would you have to pick those things up when
17 he was done?
18 A No, I never saw one on the floor. They were only
19 one place and I never see them out of the --
20 Q Okay. And he, you know, vibrators, massagers?
21 A Well, he had a lot of vibrators for his body.
22 They were laying all over the floor. We pick up those, put
23 them in the recharger and there was procedure to put
24 everything in its place and you know, dry set of towels, and
25 that was a heavy job I have to say because there was a lot
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2 Q The departure from his employment, was that a good
3 thing?
4 A I was burned out, sir. I was burned out because I
5 was hired to have staff and work under a staff and he had me
6 breakfast at 6:30 in the morning. Sometimes he'd call me to
7 fix him a meal at 10:00 p.m. or so and the next day
8 3:00 o'clock early and I'm a married man so my wife was in
9 Miami I was looking for a day job and so that's the thing
10 after six months I was beginning to feel burn out. But I
11 think I served him well, with loyalty, discretion. You know
12 we have to sign a confidential agreement.
13 Q There was an agreement?
14 A Yes, sir. I would say to come here because I know
15 you're the law but we signed that and I don't know if we
16 have any repercussions from talking about this but I know
17 you are the badge so...
18 Q Well, also you're under subpoena so were you
19 contacted by anybody from the house after we spoke or before
20 we spoke?
21 A I called him and I was telling him -- I was very
22 curious and I know what I'm getting into but I was starting
23 to tell him there's some investigation and he told me well
24 you know, what do you know. And I said well, the head of my
25 security department is going to contact you. So I get this
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1 gentleman by the name of Bill Riley (phonetic). He contact
2 me and we spend a good two hours going through the hotel.
3 Q Okay.
4 A And we spoke this morning too but that was my
5 direct link to him. And when I was subpoenaed for today I
6 tried to contact him but he never received it. He was
7 outside by there. Told us not to talk to anybody. This is
8 all the communication I had with him.
9 Q You spoke with Mr. Riley again today?
10 A Yes. Yes. I told him that I was closed and where
11 was the building and that's what I ask him and he said fine,
12 so call me when you're done. That was it.
13 Q What is it that he wants you to know? What is it
14 he wants --
15 A He said he wanted to provide me an attorney and
16 then my wife told me you don't need an attorney.
17 Q Right.
18 A Because you haven't done anything wrong so that's
19 the reason, you know, I never been in this situation before
20 so I (inaudible) because you not hide anything.
21 Q Okay. What is it that Mr. Riley wanted to know
22 from you?
23 A Why I don't want an attorney. I say I don't have
24 nothing to hide, you know, so I'm going to be honest. I
25 didn't -- what I did, you know, I'm a working man. I work
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1 for another old man millionaire in Fort Lauderdale and you
2 can check my background and everything. I don't want to
3 think that my job that I'm doing something that was illegal
4 or something like that.
5 Q Okay. You know you're not compelled to speak with
6 Mr. Riley if he's a private investigator. You don't have to
7 speak to him if you don't want to. You know? And what we
8 discuss here I hope that would stay between us. It's an
9 ongoing investigation. Mr. Riley wants to know what I'm
10 doing, I'll give you my card. He can call me. Okay?
11 A Okay.
12 Q When you spoke with him you said you spoke to him
13 two hours at the hotel. What is it that he wanted to know
14 from you?
15 A Well he took notes on a pad like that and he said
16 how long I was employed. He probably knew what I did over
17 there but he asked me you know some questions like you ask
18 me about people who went there and what was my routine and
19 so he said what do I think and I say I don't know. Then
20 again he didn't ask me for names but, you know, he took a
21 lot of notes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A We spend a good two hours there.
24 Q When you would go upstairs to clean the bedroom
25 area, you know that there was some vibrators slash
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1 massagers, sex toys in the bedroom. Where were they kept?
2 A In front of his bed there's a dresser that he open
3 and he had videos and toys.
4 Q Okay. In your opinion do you feel that there was
5 more than just a massage going on in the room?
6 A We all did. We all did. But it was kept under
7 such tight because he would close his shutter. No lights in
8 his room on the second floor. No natural light. And when
9 he left we opened that and let the whole thing air out but
10 he was always (inaudible) needed to be closed.
11 Q How did you get employed with Mr. Epstein? How
12 did you know about him?
13 A I had two friends. I was born in Bolivia, South
14 America, and I have two friends of mine who were working for
15 the Leon Black in New York and he said looked like he had a
16 couple of Philipinos that they stole from him in the past
17 and so he was looking for a very, you know, people like me
18 he can rely because we used to keep a lot of cash in the
19 house. There were guns. But I was the only one opening and
20 closing the safe because he (inaudible) 10,000 from the safe
21 (inaudible) open. And you know that was another thing but
22 he never lost -- I never lost a penny but I was in charge of
23 anyone going and open the safe (inaudible) and so I was
24 referred by the Leon Black recommendation.
25 Q Okay. Is there any relation to the Black out of
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2 A He owns a company called Apollo. He has a
3 compound (inaudible). That's where he open.
4 Q Okay.
5 A That's how I came on board.
6 Q This Maxwell, is that his --
7 A He's (inaudible) for 14 years but they're not
8 married so sometimes he will have to go to another bedroom
9 (inaudible) another.
10 Q Right.
11 A -- their relationship.
12 Q Like when there was a massage or some girl was
13 over?
14 A Yeah. And she will take a second place and
15 somehow (inaudible) and I have to say that talking from my
16 heart they make a beautiful couple. We try to say happy
17 merry Christmas but they always have (inaudible).
18 Q What, when you said he would become upset when
19 things were moved, what kind of things were moved?
20 A Lingerie. Intimate apparel from the girls.
21 Q Stuff that the girls would leave there?
22 A Yes. Under the bed or you know because we have to
23 clean. We have to turn everything we found. (Inaudible)
24 because the rooms they have colors so the yellow room or the
25 white room, or the (inaudible) room and so (inaudible).
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1 Q So these are like either panties or --
2 A Yes. Exactly.
3 Q -- bras, that type of thing?
4 A Most of the time because they're small.
5 Q But who wanted to hold on to them?
6 A It was in the manual, sir. I don't know.
7 Somebody wrote a manual.
8 Q Who did you turn it in to?
9 A We put it in the laundry room but sometimes they
10 were so busy and they stay there for a week but we mention
11 that we found something but we knew that that was going to
12 upset her so sometimes we don't mention that but they were
13 there. If he ask what do you find, go over there.
14 Q But you would turn it to Ms. Maxwell or --
15 A Ms. Maxwell. No. No. He didn't want to see
16 those things.
17 Q Okay. Was there ever any men masseuses that came
18 to give him massages?
19 A No, sir. No. I never see it. No.
20 Q Okay. Have you -- did Mr. Riley or Mr. Epstein
21 promise you anything or offer you any gifts in exchange not
22 to speak to me?
23 A No, sir. No.
24 Q Have they offered you anything?
25 A No.
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1 Q Okay. All right. And during your six months, you
2 felt approximately 15 girls, how many times would you say
3 you saw them?
4 A (Inaudible) because when I greet them because I
5 was supposed to answer the phone and the door so I saw them.
6 It's mind boggling because there's so many names you have to
7 remember and the rotation so they traveled with him and some
8 they come back. Sometimes, you know, I have to -- he will
9 tell me Alfredo you should go to Worth Avenue. Carry my
10 checkbook and buy them stuff on Worth Avenue for them or I
11 rent a plane for two hours make him happy.
12 Q And they would go on trips?
13 A They would go on trips, yes. He owns an island in
14 St. Thomas. He owns a house in France. The biggest house
15 in Manhattan and in Mexico and Palm Beach.
16 Q Okay. Did any of these girls ever fly with him to
17 New York or anywhere else?
18 A Oh, yes. Yes. All the time.
19 Q Okay. Was it the girl that you rented a car for?
20 A She went to New York I think or the island. But
21 I'm not sure but yeah.
22 Q Okay. Any other girl that you can think of might
23 have gone on trips with him?
24 A Well, all of them did. You know, they can
25 actually -- (inaudible) talk to the chief pilot. He would
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2 (inaudible) there next to (inaudible) so we arrange -- we
3 were going to one Mercedes he would drive himself with three
4 girls and I would (inaudible) because usually I was supposed
5 to follow him if he will go someplace and I would follow
6 with the rest of the girls and the baggage in the other car
7 and sometimes I would help the Jet Aviation guy (inaudible)
8 Palm Beach but I didn't know how many were coming because
9 that was another thing I needed to prepare the meals, have
10 flowers in the house so you never know because sometimes
11 when the chef wouldn't come I need to double chef like
12 butler.
13 Q You were man of many hats.
14 A Exactly. I was the driver, security, and I have
15 to say I went to the Palm Beach Police Department one time
16 because I was by myself and he will give cash gifts to
17 girls. I came back from Publix and I found an old car in
18 the driveway and sometimes we used to keep the gate open
19 because they have the sensor not to bother so we leave it
20 open so I found this car and I was walking inside saying
21 hello, hello. I found this girl, very young, with an older
22 boyfriend (inaudible). And then he got upset why I went to
23 the police department but I went for security because
24 (inaudible) I was supposed to be carrying $2,000 in my
25 pocket to tip taxi drivers, girls and everything else so
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2 Q How much would you give them when they would come
3 by for a tip?
4 A 400, 500, 600, a thousand. Sarah would tell me
5 the amount.
6 Q Would Mr. Epstein pay them personally for the
7 massage or would you pay them for the massage?
8 A I will pay them.
9 Q You would pay them?
10 A Yes. Per Sarah.
11 Q Per Sarah?
12 A I didn't have any cash on the weekend so they told
13 me get into the safe and get but that was my petty cash
14 because we were supposed to have all the money (inaudible).
15 Q Okay.
16 A So when he told me that, when he left he said pay
17 this girl and (inaudible) and that's something that upset
18 with me because I went to the police because they were not
19 masseuses. They were something else.
20 Q Okay. Did you feel that they were masseuses?
21 A No. Some they were and some they weren't.
22 Q Okay. Out of the 15 people that you saw during
23 your six months, how many of those would you say were not
24 masseuses?
25 A The majority.
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2 A The majority.
3 Q Did you ever see any money exchange for massages?
4 A No. He will tell me get some money but then I
5 will get out of the house and (inaudible) on the floor with
6 no money.
7 Q Okay. So in essence Mr. Epstein or his assistant
8 would then pay them because you would leave the house,
9 right?
10 A Exactly. That's exactly true.
11 Q Okay. So you were given the cash but he would
12 actually be the one to pay them?
13 A I would pay some of them because he was shopping
14 or doing something and say give this to Susan or 300, 500,
15 600, and so I make envelopes. But my girls at the time I
16 give them the cash and he would never touch the money most
17 of the time.
18 I have to say this, I don't know, I went to high
19 school, sir, taking flowers to the girls. But I feel I have
20 two daughters myself and at that time (inaudible) know what
21 (inaudible) I have a friend who work on Worth Avenue and she
22 says that's where my daughter goes so I took expensive roses
23 but then I realize she was probably very young. And she was
24 in the house.
25 Q And she provided him (inaudible)?
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2 him. Most of the time they (inaudible) next to the master
3 bedroom and they will sometimes I would go and knock on the
4 door and nobody would answer. Then I find two young girls
5 naked in thongs or something like they were on the table. I
6 get out of the house and I tell everybody don't go up there
7 until he left too (inaudible).
8 Q So you've taken flowers. Have you taken anything
9 else to the high school? Which high school was that?
10 A Royal Palm Beach.
11 Q Royal Palm Beach High School?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Do you remember who the flowers were for?
14 A I do remember but I don't have the name with me
15 right now. It was like end of the year they make like a
16 play.
17 Q Uh-huh.
18 A You know and they were supposed to say this is
19 from Jeffrey and congratulations and leave. You know? But
20 (inaudible) who I am because it's a black Mercedes, this and
21 that, so that was one instance that I feel awkward because I
22 can identify. I have two girls.
23 Q And he knew that this girl was going to Royal Palm
24 Beach High School?
25 A I don't think he did. I don't know that he know
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2 flowers from this place on Clematis (inaudible) flowers, the
3 place to buy the flowers. So I went over there but you
4 know.
5 Q Did you deliver anything else to the school other
6 than the flowers?
7 A No. That was the only time I went there.
8 Q His assistant's name was Sarah obviously. He has
9 another friend slash assistant by the name of Nadia.
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Does that ring a bell to you?
12 A Oh, yeah.
13 Q What is she to him?
14 A (Inaudible) the girlfriend of (inaudible) is
15 different because it's like he will do special things with
16 her, travel only with her, (inaudible) very, very young. So
17 by the time when I finish my employment, that was the
18 girlfriend that took the place of all the others.
19 Q So she would have obviously she would sleep in his
20 room and everything?
21 A Well sometimes she will because we pick up his
22 bathrobe in her --
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1 Q Did you ever see Nadia with any other masseuses?
2 A No, because when the massage was going on
3 everything was on the second floor. I never see them. No.
4 Q Okay. You have this stuff written down in a book?
5 You said a manual?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. Is it possible that you can provide me with
8 that book?
9 A Yes, sir.
10 Q Do you have it with you now or down in Miami?
11 A I have it in my house.
12 Q Okay. I would definitely would like to take a
13 look at that book.
14 A I have to say this.
15 Q This will help me.
16 A I had a hint that (inaudible) about that. I have
17 to say also that these friend of mine that work in
18 (inaudible) is a long-time friend of mine and (inaudible)
19 also I delivered the flowers, he said do not say anything
20 because they can take action against you and I want to put
21 this on the record because, you know, they're so powerful
22 that they can make my job disappear or make something go
23 wrong. So I'm beginning to be on the afraid -- I'm a grown
24 up man but, you know, you are afraid because we are all
25 little people to them and that's (inaudible) so I just want
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2 hope this doesn't come back.
3 Q First of all let me just alleviate your fears, you
4 are not a suspect, I am not looking at to put any charges on
5 you whatsoever. At this point you're just a witness to me
6 and that's why I just wanted to speak to you. Okay? You're
7 not a suspect. You're not in any trouble. Okay?
8 As far as Mrs. Epstein being powerful, he's just a
9 man. He puts on his pants just like you and me. Okay? The
10 fact that his checkbook is a little fatter than ours, that's
11 how it goes but that doesn't mean he's above the law. Okay?
12 And that's the extent of it. He is not a brain surgeon as
13 he's told people. He's a money man and that's it. He takes
14 money and invests money and he makes money doing it. That's
15 it. That's the extent of it. That's the extent of his
16 power. All right? So you shouldn't fear him. That's
17 basically it. He's just a man just like you and me.
18 A Yeah. I hope he doesn't take actions against me
19 because you know I can lose a main -- I have a book, sir,
20 that he used to give to (inaudible) and there are certain
21 people (inaudible). But anyway in this book is the masseuse
22 that he preferred (inaudible) contact these people.
23 Q That is something I would be very interested in.
24 I'm going to give you my card. I left one on your door when
25 I went down there.
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1 A Yes, I saw that. My wife got scared thinking
2 something happened.
3 Q Right. And I tried to explain to your wife and I
4 told her the same thing you're not in any trouble
5 whatsoever. I did want to talk to you.
6 Do you feel that you had to call the investigator?
7 Did they tell you you had to call the investigator?
8 A He told me please call back but you know now that
9 we've spoken I have all these fears that I thought I knew --
10 I didn't know. I wasn't sure exactly of the investigation
11 so I don't think I have to call him back.
12 Q You don't have to call him. You're under no
13 obligation to call him. Okay? You don't have to speak to
14 them. If they come knocking on your door you can just say
15 look, I don't want to speak to you, get off my property and
16 call me if you'd like. Call me and I'll tell him hey, he
17 doesn't want to speak to you. That's it. I don't want you
18 to feel that you have to call him. Obviously what we
19 discussed stays between us. I'd like to take a look at that
20 book. I'd be willing to drive down to Miami, take a look at
21 it and give it right back to you.
22 A I used to keep the receipt from this rental
23 company but you know it's a long time I coul throw it away
24 but I'm pretty sure I have it.
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2 Airport, the plane and the store that I went to.
3 Q What other stores did you go to? I mean were they
4 with you when you went to the stores?
5 A Usually he will drive around because he will stay
6 in the car. He's a person that doesn't like to be seen so
7 he will send somebody what does he like then tell Alfredo to
8 buy it for you. (Inaudible.)
9 Q Okay. Did you have to buy them negligees or under
10 garments?
11 A No. Sarah would buy something like that.
12 Q Sarah is the one that would always buy stuff like
13 that? Okay. Jewelry?
14 A No. I (inaudible) something like that.
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16 Q The girl you bought the flowers for, was it the
17 same girl that you rented the car for?
18 A Yes.
19 Q All right. You have my card. You know what? I'm
20 going to give you my cell phone as well. Okay? It's on
21 24/7. It's on 24 hours a day. You can call me any time you
22 want.
23 MALE SPEAKER: At this time I'll conclude
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4 Q What I'd like you to do is raise your right hand.
5 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
6 nothing but the truth so help you God?
7 A Yes.
8 Q Okay. State your name for the record.
9 A My name is Yolanda Lopez.
10 Q Yolanda, how old are you?
11 A I'm 17.
12 Q Okay. Are you currently in school?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Where are you in school?
15 A Royal Palm Beach High.
16 Q Royal Palm Beach High?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q And how are your grades?
19 A Pretty good except for one class.
20 Q Okay. Okay. So you understand what I'm asking
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22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. You're 17 years old right now.
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1 some information pertaining to a case that I'm investigating
2 to a gentleman you may know as Jeff or Jeffrey.
3 A Okay.
4 Q Okay? What I'd like you to do in your own words
5 is tell me how you came in contact for the first time with
6 Jeffrey.
7 A Okay. I used to be friends with pretty much
8 (inaudible) with Haley Robinson and very good friends with
9 Jen and Haley came up to me, approached me one day and asked
10 me if I would -- there was a job where I would massage this
11 guy Jeffrey and that's all I would have to do and I would
12 get $200 for giving him a massage.
13 Q Okay.
14 A And I was like sure. There's no strings attached.
15 She said no. I'm like okay, sure. So she called Jeff and I
16 guess the head lady who's like a personal assistant with
17 him.
18 Q Okay.
19 A And she set up an appointment for me and her to go
20 and we went over to his house one day and Haley brought me
21 up to the room, set up a massage table, (inaudible) light,
22 put on a little bit of music, set up the bed for me and just
23 told me to be comfortable and Jeffrey would come upstairs.
24 So I waited in the room, and Jeffrey came up into the room,
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1 put on a towel and he laid on the bed, he told me to put on
2 this lotion and I gave him a massage. He told me where to
3 massage him. His back and his legs and hamstrings, his
4 lower back, his upper back and right in that area. So I
5 started giving him a massage and then he flipped over and
6 told me to do the front of his legs and his pec area and his
7 upper shoulders. And to do that and he asked me to get a
8 little bit more comfortable. And I asked him what do you
9 mean. He said lift off your shirt, pull down your pants.
10 And I was already wearing like a crop tank top and I'm like
11 no, I'm comfortable. And he was like okay, that's fine.
12 And then he started to move his hands down off the bed and
13 he started to touch me. He (inaudible) my legs and on my
14 butt and then he tried to go underneath my shirt and touch
15 my boob area and I was like I'm not comfortable with that.
16 And he was like oh, come on. I'm like no. I'll finish your
17 massage but that's it. And he would rub his nipples. He
18 would be like like oh, yeah. He started to rub his nipples
19 and then started to jerk off and that was (inaudible).
20 Q Okay. Haley approached you for a massage just so
21 I can get this straight, okay? She called a woman named
22 Sarah?
23 A Right.
24 Q That's the personal assistant to --
25 A Jeffrey.
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1 Q -- Jeffrey. Okay. Haley brought you up to the
2 room?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q She set up the room for you?
5 A Correct.
6 Q Jeff came into the room, introduced himself, went
7 to another room and changed?
8 A Right. Because upstairs is his bedroom.
9 Q Okay.
10 A And he left to go into his bedroom to change.
11 Q Okay.
12 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
13 Q Did he tell you his last name?
14 A No. He would never tell me his last name. He
15 would never tell me what he did for a living. He would
16 never give me personal information except for his name was
17 Jeffrey.
18 BY MALE SPEAKER:
19 Q Okay. He told you to get comfortable.
20 A Right.
21 Q Okay. What were you wearing?
22 A I was wearing a crop tank top that comes a little
23 bit above my naval and I wore a bra and pair of (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. So you did not remove any clothing?
25 A No.
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1 Q As you were massaging Jeff in the leg area, did he
2 remove his towel?
3 A He started to move the towel lower and lower and
4 then eventually he --
5 Q Had it off. He had taken it off.
6 Okay. At what point had he started to masturbate?
7 A After he started to rub his nipples and I was
8 giving him a massage on his shoulders he started to remove
9 the towel completely and that's when he started to
10 masturbate or do whatever he did.
11 Q Okay. Do you know what the meaning of masturbate
12 is?
13 A Yeah. To ejaculate.
14 Q Okay. Did you see his penis?
15 A Yes.
16 Q Okay.
17 A He made that visible too.
18 Q Okay. At what point did he reach out to try to
19 touch you?
20 A While he before he started to rub his nipples he
21 goes I'm going to touch you the way that I like to be
22 touched and I was like I don't feel comfortable that way.
23 I'm fine. I'll continue to give you a massage. I don't
24 want -- I'm very uncomfortable. Because Haley before she
25 told me if I felt uncomfortable just tell him and he'd back
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1 off. So I told him that I was uncomfortable like after he
2 started touching me and he started ejaculating after that.
3 Q Okay. He touched your buttocks?
4 A Yes.
5 Q Did he touch your vagina area?
6 A I would not let him. No.
7 Q Okay. And you mentioned your breast area.
8 A Right.
9 Q Did he try to touch your buttocks under the shorts
10 or --
11 A At first it was just outside my pants and then he
12 tried to -- I had a belt on with my jeans so he tried to go
13 inside from behind but he could not and I was like I'm not
14 comfortable.
15 Q Okay. He put his hands under your shirt?
16 A Right.
17 Q Okay. And you had a bra on, correct?
18 A Correct.
19 Q Okay. Did he go under the bra or over the bra?
20 A He didn't have enough time. I told him not to do
21 that. I was uncomfortable.
22 Q So you stopped him before he actually touched your
23 breast?
24 A Right.
25 Q Okay. And he started to begin to masturbate at
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2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Did he ejaculate?
4 A Yeah. He did. He did everything.
5 Q He finished?
6 A He finished, yeah.
7 Q That was the first time you went?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q How much did you receive?
10 A I received $200.
11 Q Okay. Was that the only time you went?
12 A I've been there a total of three times.
13 Q Okay. What happened the --
14 A The second time I went there with Haley, Vanessa
15 and this girl Jen.
16 Q Uh-huh.
17 A And me and Haley were downstairs. The staff made
18 us dinner or lunch. It was like late afternoon. We sat
19 there and I guess Jen and Jeffrey went upstairs to do
20 whatever they did and we just waited downstairs with the
21 staff and like he had supermodels there and we were talking
22 to them. They showed us around the house, they showed us
23 the car, they showed us the pool area. We were just --
24 Q So you were waiting for Jen?
25 A Right.
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1 Q Did you know if Haley took any money?
2 A Haley received money every time she brings someone
3 there. That I know for a fact. (Inaudible.)
4 Q Okay. Did she receive money for the first time
5 you went?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q The second time you went did you receive any
8 money?
9 A Nothing.
10 Q Did Haley receive money for taking Jen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I was just there because Jen's my best friend and
14 she felt more comfortable if I was there. She didn't really
15 know Haley and (inaudible) through Vanessa they were.
16 Q Okay. What about the third time?
17 A The third time it was me, Vanessa and Michelle.
18 Q Michelle?
19 A Lacotta.
20 Q Can you spell that?
21 A L-A-C-A or C-O-T-T-A.
22 Q And Haley you said?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Tell us what happened then.
25 A Michelle works with -- Haley got Michelle
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1 (inaudible) when I was with her. Told Michelle that
2 Michelle went with us and Haley went upstairs again but this
3 time Sarah was with her. Michelle and Haley went upstairs
4 and set the bed up for Michelle and we went downstairs. We
5 were waiting and we were just talking to Sarah. We were
6 talking Haley in the other room (inaudible) and magazines.
7 There was like a whole bunch of nude pictures all over the
8 house.
9 Q Okay. The third time you went you didn't do
10 anything?
11 A No. I only did it once.
12 Q Did you receive any money for recruiting Michelle?
13 A Yeah. I received a hundred dollars.
14 Q You did. You were given a hundred dollars?
15 A Uh-huh.
16 Q Do you have Michelle's phone number?
17 A I don't speak to her anymore. I could get it if
18 you want me to get it for you.
19 Q No, I'll find it.
20 The third time you went you saw Sarah and Haley
21 take Michelle to the room?
22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. Did Haley come back down?
24 A Yes. Jeffrey doesn't allow anybody else inside
25 the room besides you and that person.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A You and him.
3 Q Okay. And you received a hundred dollars to bring
4 Michelle?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q Okay. Real quick, just want to go over on the
7 second or third time, you never went upstairs?
8 A No.
9 Q You waited downstairs.
10 The first time that you went up there --
11 A Correct.
12 Q -- did he ever touch you?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Aside from --
15 A Oh, no.
16 Q -- what you told me? Did he ever touch your
17 vagina area?
18 A No.
19 Q The breast area aside from what you told me?
20 A No.
21 Q Didn't go under the bra?
22 A No.
23 Q Did he ever pull you in close to him?
24 A Yes. He had done that. He would wrap your arms
25 around him. Like he'd wrap your arm from behind and he'd
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2 Q Okay. Can you describe him a little bit to me?
3 A He was very --
4 MS. SICILIANO: It's hard to describe him.
5 THE WITNESS: Yeah. Very --
6 MS. SICILIANO: I would say he's (inaudible).
7 DETECTIVE DAWSON: Let her --
8 MS. SICILIANO: I've seen him.
9 DETECTIVE DAWSON: I know but we'll get
10 (inaudible).
11 MS. SICILIANO:
12 THE WITNESS: He was -- he's just a fricking
13 pervert. I don't know what the hell he is. He's
14 a weirdo. He has pictures of his family naked,
15 children naked, some others naked, models naked.
16 He always has girls there constantly. He's
17 basically a sugar daddy. My perception is he
18 looks like a sugar daddy. He has gray hair. He
19 works out so he's in good physical condition. He
20 has hair on his chest and his back. He's probably
21 about maybe six foot one. (Inaudible) way sort
22 of. He would never discuss what he does for a
23 living. From Haley and everybody else like my
24 friends who talked to him he said that he's a
25 scientist. He invented things. He's done stocks.
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2 so he keeps to himself after he's done.
3 (Inaudible.) He does whatever he does and then he
4 (inaudible) the money for you.
5 BY MALE SPEAKER:
6 Q Did he have the money out for you prior to or when
7 you were -- when the massage was done?
8 A When the massage was done.
9 Q On your way out?
10 A Right.
11 Q Okay. When he finished, did he use the towel to
12 clean himself or --
13 A He got up in the room there's two showers.
14 There's like a steam room and then there's a shower so as
15 soon as he got -- as soon as he's done he got up and went
16 into the shower/steam room or whatever.
17 Q Do you know the difference between circumcised and
18 not circumcised?
19 A Yes. He was circumcised?
20 Q He is?
21 A Yes.
22 Q What is your definition?
23 A Where the foreskin hasn't been cut off and where
24 covers the actual head of the penis. Where you are
25 circumcised the head is sewn. You don't have to pull back
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1 the skin in order to see the head.
2 Q Okay. So he is or he is not?
3 A He is circumcised.
4 Q He is circumcised.
5 At the conclusion of the massage and you went to
6 the other room, you have the money, what happened after
7 that?
8 A I grabbed the money and I left to go with
9 (inaudible). They asked me what's wrong and I was like
10 nothing, let's just go. And I felt like a disgrace. I felt
11 really dirty. I felt bad about myself as a human. I was
12 only 16 years old at the time and I felt like, you know, the
13 whole time I was there I was like I'm really nervous, I
14 repeated that to Haley. She said don't worry, he's not
15 going to do anything, there's no strings attached, so I said
16 let's just get out of here. Let's go. Let's leave. And we
17 left.
18 Q Did he ask for your age?
19 A No.
20 Q No.
21 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
22 Q When was this? Do you remember?
23 A It was like probably around September/November
24 because my boyfriend (inaudible).
25 MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
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2 Q (Inaudible)?
3 A Oh, yeah.
4 BY MALE SPEAKER:
5 Q Did Haley ever explain to you on your way over
6 there what was expected from you?
7 A No. Never told me. She said that all I had to do
8 was just give a massage. I didn't have to do anything. No
9 strings attached. That's all I had to do and I would
10 receive $200 for giving give him a massage.
11 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to get
12 naked?
13 A No.
14 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to
15 remove some clothing?
16 A She told me he would ask me to get comfortable.
17 That's it.
18 Q Okay. And what did you think she meant when she
19 said comfortable?
20 A I did think, you know, I would have to remove
21 articles of clothing but to feel comfortable with him with
22 have a conversation with him, keep talking to him so I
23 wouldn't be so nervous, and he'd get to know me and like me
24 because if he doesn't like you he doesn't pay you.
25 Q Okay. Did you ever use any sex toys? Did he have
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1 any sex toys?
2 A No.
3 Q Have you had any contact with Sarah, Haley, or
4 anyone from the house?
5 A No. I don't talk to Haley. Me and Haley don't
6 like each other.
7 MS. SICILIANO: (Inaudible.)
8 THE WITNESS: I only talk to them like
9 whenever I see her out and about like downtown I
10 say what's up. That's it. But I never -- I've
11 only met Sarah once. I've never actually had a
12 full-blown conversation with Sarah. I only know
13 about Sarah and what she does. How she lives
14 there and how she's the personal assistant for him
15 and how she gets to call Haley or whoever else is
16 like the main girl to get girls.
17 BY MALE SPEAKER:
18 Q Okay. Everything you've told me has been true and
19 correct to the best of your knowledge?
20 A Correct.
21 Q Just for the record, in the room we're located at
22 108 Gibraltar (phonetic) Street, Royal Palm Beach. Present
23 in the room is myself ID number 7915 Detective (inaudible)
24 with the Palm Beach Police Department Detective Michael
25 Dawson, Palm Beach Police Department, Yolanda Lopez and
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2 For the record, Jennifer, can you spell your last
3 name?
4 MS. SICILIANO: S-I-C-I-L-I-A-N-O.
5 BY MALE SPEAKER:
6 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
7 add to this?
8 THE WITNESS: That's it.
9 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. At this time I'm going
10 to go ahead and conclude this tape. The time by
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3 BY MALE SPEAKER:
4 Q What I'd like you to do is raise your right hand.
5 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
6 nothing but the truth so help you God?
7 A Yes.
8 Q Okay. State your name for the record.
9 A My name is Yolanda Lopez.
10 Q Yolanda, how old are you?
11 A I'm 17.
12 Q Okay. Are you currently in school?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Where are you in school?
15 A Royal Palm Beach High.
16 Q Royal Palm Beach High?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q And how are your grades?
19 A Pretty good except for one class.
20 Q Okay. Okay. So you understand what I'm asking
21 you and what we're discussing here, correct?
22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. You're 17 years old right now.
24 A Correct.
25 Q Okay. What I want to do is obviously you have
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1 some information pertaining to a case that I'm investigating
2 to a gentleman you may know as Jeff or Jeffrey.
3 A Okay.
4 Q Okay? What I'd like you to do in your own words
5 is tell me how you came in contact for the first time with
6 Jeffrey.
7 A Okay. I used to be friends with pretty much
8 (inaudible) with Haley Robinson and very good friends with
9 Jen and Haley came up to me, approached me one day and asked
10 me if I would -- there was a job where I would massage this
11 guy Jeffrey and that's all I would have to do and I would
12 get $200 for giving him a massage.
13 Q Okay.
14 A And I was like sure. There's no strings attached.
15 She said no. I'm like okay, sure. So she called Jeff and I
16 guess the head lady who's like a personal assistant with
17 him.
18 Q Okay.
19 A And she set up an appointment for me and her to go
20 and we went over to his house one day and Haley brought me
21 up to the room, set up a massage table, (inaudible) light,
22 put on a little bit of music, set up the bed for me and just
23 told me to be comfortable and Jeffrey would come upstairs.
24 So I waited in the room, and Jeffrey came up into the room,
25 introduced himself to me, and he went out of the room and
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1 put on a towel and he laid on the bed, he told me to put on
2 this lotion and I gave him a massage. He told me where to
3 massage him. His back and his legs and hamstrings, his
4 lower back, his upper back and right in that area. So I
5 started giving him a massage and then he flipped over and
6 told me to do the front of his legs and his pec area and his
7 upper shoulders. And to do that and he asked me to get a
8 little bit more comfortable. And I asked him what do you
9 mean. He said lift off your shirt, pull down your pants.
10 And I was already wearing like a crop tank top and I'm like
11 no, I'm comfortable. And he was like okay, that's fine.
12 And then he started to move his hands down off the bed and
13 he started to touch me. He (inaudible) my legs and on my
14 butt and then he tried to go underneath my shirt and touch
15 my boob area and I was like I'm not comfortable with that.
16 And he was like oh, come on. I'm like no. I'll finish your
17 massage but that's it. And he would rub his nipples. He
18 would be like like oh, yeah. He started to rub his nipples
19 and then started to jerk off and that was (inaudible).
20 Q Okay. Haley approached you for a massage just so
21 I can get this straight, okay? She called a woman named
22 Sarah?
23 A Right.
24 Q That's the personal assistant to --
25 A Jeffrey.
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1 Q -- Jeffrey. Okay. Haley brought you up to the
2 room?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q She set up the room for you?
5 A Correct.
6 Q Jeff came into the room, introduced himself, went
7 to another room and changed?
8 A Right. Because upstairs is his bedroom.
9 Q Okay.
10 A And he left to go into his bedroom to change.
11 Q Okay.
12 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
13 Q Did he tell you his last name?
14 A No. He would never tell me his last name. He
15 would never tell me what he did for a living. He would
16 never give me personal information except for his name was
17 Jeffrey.
18 BY MALE SPEAKER:
19 Q Okay. He told you to get comfortable.
20 A Right.
21 Q Okay. What were you wearing?
22 A I was wearing a crop tank top that comes a little
23 bit above my naval and I wore a bra and pair of (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. So you did not remove any clothing?
25 A No.
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1 Q As you were massaging Jeff in the leg area, did he
2 remove his towel?
3 A He started to move the towel lower and lower and
4 then eventually he --
5 Q Had it off. He had taken it off.
6 Okay. At what point had he started to masturbate?
7 A After he started to rub his nipples and I was
8 giving him a massage on his shoulders he started to remove
9 the towel completely and that's when he started to
10 masturbate or do whatever he did.
11 Q Okay. Do you know what the meaning of masturbate
12 is?
13 A Yeah. To ejaculate.
14 Q Okay. Did you see his penis?
15 A Yes.
16 Q Okay.
17 A He made that visible too.
18 Q Okay. At what point did he reach out to try to
19 touch you?
20 A While he before he started to rub his nipples he
21 goes I'm going to touch you the way that I like to be
22 touched and I was like I don't feel comfortable that way.
23 I'm fine. I'll continue to give you a massage. I don't
24 want -- I'm very uncomfortable. Because Haley before she
25 told me if I felt uncomfortable just tell him and he'd back
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1 off. So I told him that I was uncomfortable like after he
2 started touching me and he started ejaculating after that.
3 Q Okay. He touched your buttocks?
4 A Yes.
5 Q Did he touch your vagina area?
6 A I would not let him. No.
7 Q Okay. And you mentioned your breast area.
8 A Right.
9 Q Did he try to touch your buttocks under the shorts
10 or --
11 A At first it was just outside my pants and then he
12 tried to -- I had a belt on with my jeans so he tried to go
13 inside from behind but he could not and I was like I'm not
14 comfortable.
15 Q Okay. He put his hands under your shirt?
16 A Right.
17 Q Okay. And you had a bra on, correct?
18 A Correct.
19 Q Okay. Did he go under the bra or over the bra?
20 A He didn't have enough time. I told him not to do
21 that. I was uncomfortable.
22 Q So you stopped him before he actually touched your
23 breast?
24 A Right.
25 Q Okay. And he started to begin to masturbate at
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1 that point?
2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Did he ejaculate?
4 A Yeah. He did. He did everything.
5 Q He finished?
6 A He finished, yeah.
7 Q That was the first time you went?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q How much did you receive?
10 A I received $200.
11 Q Okay. Was that the only time you went?
12 A I've been there a total of three times.
13 Q Okay. What happened the --
14 A The second time I went there with Haley, Vanessa
15 and this girl Jen.
16 Q Uh-huh.
17 A And me and Haley were downstairs. The staff made
18 us dinner or lunch. It was like late afternoon. We sat
19 there and I guess Jen and Jeffrey went upstairs to do
20 whatever they did and we just waited downstairs with the
21 staff and like he had supermodels there and we were talking
22 to them. They showed us around the house, they showed us
23 the car, they showed us the pool area. We were just --
24 Q So you were waiting for Jen?
25 A Right.
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1 Q Did you know if Haley took any money?
2 A Haley received money every time she brings someone
3 there. That I know for a fact. (Inaudible.)
4 Q Okay. Did she receive money for the first time
5 you went?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q The second time you went did you receive any
8 money?
9 A Nothing.
10 Q Did Haley receive money for taking Jen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I was just there because Jen's my best friend and
14 she felt more comfortable if I was there. She didn't really
15 know Haley and (inaudible) through Vanessa they were.
16 Q Okay. What about the third time?
17 A The third time it was me, Vanessa and Michelle.
18 Q Michelle?
19 A Lacotta.
20 Q Can you spell that?
21 A L-A-C-A or C-O-T-T-A.
22 Q And Haley you said?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Tell us what happened then.
25 A Michelle works with -- Haley got Michelle
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1 (inaudible) when I was with her. Told Michelle that
2 Michelle went with us and Haley went upstairs again but this
3 time Sarah was with her. Michelle and Haley went upstairs
4 and set the bed up for Michelle and we went downstairs. We
5 were waiting and we were just talking to Sarah. We were
6 talking Haley in the other room (inaudible) and magazines.
7 There was like a whole bunch of nude pictures all over the
8 house.
9 Q Okay. The third time you went you didn't do
10 anything?
11 A No. I only did it once.
12 Q Did you receive any money for recruiting Michelle?
13 A Yeah. I received a hundred dollars.
14 Q You did. You were given a hundred dollars?
15 A Uh-huh.
16 Q Do you have Michelle's phone number?
17 A I don't speak to her anymore. I could get it if
18 you want me to get it for you.
19 Q No, I'll find it.
20 The third time you went you saw Sarah and Haley
21 take Michelle to the room?
22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. Did Haley come back down?
24 A Yes. Jeffrey doesn't allow anybody else inside
25 the room besides you and that person.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A You and him.
3 Q Okay. And you received a hundred dollars to bring
4 Michelle?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q Okay. Real quick, just want to go over on the
7 second or third time, you never went upstairs?
8 A No.
9 Q You waited downstairs.
10 The first time that you went up there --
11 A Correct.
12 Q -- did he ever touch you?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Aside from --
15 A Oh, no.
16 Q -- what you told me? Did he ever touch your
17 vagina area?
18 A No.
19 Q The breast area aside from what you told me?
20 A No.
21 Q Didn't go under the bra?
22 A No.
23 Q Did he ever pull you in close to him?
24 A Yes. He had done that. He would wrap your arms
25 around him. Like he'd wrap your arm from behind and he'd
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2 Q Okay. Can you describe him a little bit to me?
3 A He was very --
4 MS. SICILIANO: It's hard to describe him.
5 THE WITNESS: Yeah. Very --
6 MS. SICILIANO: I would say he's (inaudible).
7 DETECTIVE DAWSON: Let her --
8 MS. SICILIANO: I've seen him.
9 DETECTIVE DAWSON: I know but we'll get
10 (inaudible).
11 MS. SICILIANO:
12 THE WITNESS: He was -- he's just a fricking
13 pervert. I don't know what the hell he is. He's
14 a weirdo. He has pictures of his family naked,
15 children naked, some others naked, models naked.
16 He always has girls there constantly. He's
17 basically a sugar daddy. My perception is he
18 looks like a sugar daddy. He has gray hair. He
19 works out so he's in good physical condition. He
20 has hair on his chest and his back. He's probably
21 about maybe six foot one. (Inaudible) way sort
22 of. He would never discuss what he does for a
23 living. From Haley and everybody else like my
24 friends who talked to him he said that he's a
25 scientist. He invented things. He's done stocks.
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2 so he keeps to himself after he's done.
3 (Inaudible.) He does whatever he does and then he
4 (inaudible) the money for you.
5 BY MALE SPEAKER:
6 Q Did he have the money out for you prior to or when
7 you were -- when the massage was done?
8 A When the massage was done.
9 Q On your way out?
10 A Right.
11 Q Okay. When he finished, did he use the towel to
12 clean himself or --
13 A He got up in the room there's two showers.
14 There's like a steam room and then there's a shower so as
15 soon as he got -- as soon as he's done he got up and went
16 into the shower/steam room or whatever.
17 Q Do you know the difference between circumcised and
18 not circumcised?
19 A Yes. He was circumcised?
20 Q He is?
21 A Yes.
22 Q What is your definition?
23 A Where the foreskin hasn't been cut off and where
24 covers the actual head of the penis. Where you are
25 circumcised the head is sewn. You don't have to pull back
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2 Q Okay. So he is or he is not?
3 A He is circumcised.
4 Q He is circumcised.
5 At the conclusion of the massage and you went to
6 the other room, you have the money, what happened after
7 that?
8 A I grabbed the money and I left to go with
9 (inaudible). They asked me what's wrong and I was like
10 nothing, let's just go. And I felt like a disgrace. I felt
11 really dirty. I felt bad about myself as a human. I was
12 only 16 years old at the time and I felt like, you know, the
13 whole time I was there I was like I'm really nervous, I
14 repeated that to Haley. She said don't worry, he's not
15 going to do anything, there's no strings attached, so I said
16 let's just get out of here. Let's go. Let's leave. And we
17 left.
18 Q Did he ask for your age?
19 A No.
20 Q No.
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22 Q When was this? Do you remember?
23 A It was like probably around September/November
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3 A Oh, yeah.
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5 Q Did Haley ever explain to you on your way over
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7 A No. Never told me. She said that all I had to do
8 was just give a massage. I didn't have to do anything. No
9 strings attached. That's all I had to do and I would
10 receive $200 for giving give him a massage.
11 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to get
12 naked?
13 A No.
14 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to
15 remove some clothing?
16 A She told me he would ask me to get comfortable.
17 That's it.
18 Q Okay. And what did you think she meant when she
19 said comfortable?
20 A I did think, you know, I would have to remove
21 articles of clothing but to feel comfortable with him with
22 have a conversation with him, keep talking to him so I
23 wouldn't be so nervous, and he'd get to know me and like me
24 because if he doesn't like you he doesn't pay you.
25 Q Okay. Did you ever use any sex toys? Did he have
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2 A No.
3 Q Have you had any contact with Sarah, Haley, or
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5 A No. I don't talk to Haley. Me and Haley don't
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7 MS. SICILIANO: (Inaudible.)
8 THE WITNESS: I only talk to them like
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18 Q Okay. Everything you've told me has been true and
19 correct to the best of your knowledge?
20 A Correct.
21 Q Just for the record, in the room we're located at
22 108 Gibraltar (phonetic) Street, Royal Palm Beach. Present
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4 MS. SICILIANO: S-I-C-I-L-I-A-N-O.
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8 THE WITNESS: That's it.
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4 Q -- say nothing but the truth so help you God?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q All right. So tell me from the beginning as far
7 as when you met Mr. Epstein.
8 A As soon as (inaudible) house. I'm like what are
9 you guys talking about? And I hadn't really hung out with
10 them. I was kind of the (inaudible) and they were telling
11 me about this guy and they would go and give him massages
12 and he'd pay them $200 for giving a massage an hour. And
13 they said do you want to do it and I'm like yeah, $200 for
14 an hour, let's go. So I think about a week later I had gone
15 with (inaudible) and it was me and her and we were with him
16 and it was kind of weird because he's naked but she's like
17 oh, he's always like that, don't worry about it. And then
18 we just gave him a massage and he gave her $200 and he gave
19 me $300 and he asked me to come back. So I'm like okay. I
20 came back about probably five or six times.
21 Q Okay. He gave you 300 to do a massage, right?
22 A Uh-huh.
23 Q Okay. And that was about a year ago?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. You were approached about this by Faith and
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2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Okay. (Inaudible), what's her last name?
4 A Valdez or Vas -- I don't know. It starts with a
5 V.
6 Q Okay. All right. Let's start back from the
7 beginning on the massage. He was naked on the massage?
8 A Yes, with a towel over him.
9 Q Okay. How were you dressed when you were
10 providing the massage?
11 A I think jeans and a tank top.
12 Q Jeans and a tank top. At any time did he ask you
13 to remove your clothing?
14 A He did probably about the second time that I went
15 there and I gave him a massage in my underwear.
16 Q Just in your underwear? Okay.
17 A That's why I stopped going because he said if you
18 start to feel comfortable just don't come for more.
19 Q Okay. When you were giving him the massage, where
20 did the massage take place?
21 A Like if you go upstairs into his bedroom like his
22 bathroom I guess like there's this big room with like a
23 sauna and a shower and in there.
24 Q Okay. Were there tables already set up?
25 A Sometimes they were already set up and then
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1 sometimes when we went up there there's like a little closet
2 and the table is in the closet and we'd bring it out and set
3 it up.
4 Q Did you set it up or --
5 A Yes.
6 Q -- did somebody else set it up for you?
7 A Sometimes it was already set up when we got there.
8 Q Okay.
9 A Sometimes I had to set it up.
10 Q Okay. How were you taken to the bedroom area?
11 A Usually Sarah would lead you up but after you were
12 there a couple times she'd say go on up.
13 Q Okay. And you went what, five or six times?
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Okay. All right. Let's get back to your first
16 massage you gave. He was wrapped in a towel.
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Okay. At any time did he take off the towel?
19 A Only when he got up and put a robe around him.
20 Q Okay. During the time you were providing him a
21 massage, did he ever touch himself?
22 A No. He was laying on his stomach.
23 Q Laying on his stomach the entire time?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay.
3 A But not the first time.
4 Q Not the first time. You just his massaged his --
5 A His legs and his feet the first time.
6 Q Okay.
7 A (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. So the first time Shazy (phonetic) and you
9 did the massage?
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Okay. All right. And you were completely
12 clothed?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. Did he touch you --
15 A No.
16 Q -- during the massage?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Was there any massagers slash vibrators
19 introduced into the massage?
20 A No. Just like he had like this massage cream from
21 Bath and Body Works. That's it. And I'd use that.
22 Q Okay. When the second time you went, how did you,
23 how were you contacted?
24 A Asked -- when he asked -- when he gave me $300 and
25 asked me to come back I had left him my cell phone number.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A And Sarah called me and told me that Jeff had
3 wanted me to come back and then I went down there.
4 Q Okay. Do you recall when this was?
5 A No. I know it started like this time last year
6 because I think about January is the last time I went when I
7 met my boyfriend and he didn't want me going down there.
8 Q So January of this year was the last time you
9 went?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Okay. All right. So she called you and tells you
12 to come --
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q -- tells you to come to the house to provide, to
15 work?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Did anything happen during that massage?
18 A No. The only thing he ever did was he tried to
19 grab my butt and I told him I didn't feel comfortable with
20 that and he always said that if you didn't feel comfortable
21 just to let him know.
22 Q Was that on the second massage?
23 A No. Probably about towards the end because
24 (inaudible) massage.
25 Q Okay.
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1 A That's when (inaudible) and then after that is
2 when I started feeling uncomfortable with it because he was
3 like why don't you take that off and I was like no. Just he
4 never said (inaudible) did anything. So he was trying to
5 talk me into it I didn't feel comfortable with it.
6 Q Okay. So you recall both -- the first two times?
7 A Uh-huh.
8 Q Did he touch himself during the second massage?
9 A I don't remember. He would sometimes.
10 Q What do you mean?
11 A Well not -- like towards the end when I was in my
12 underwear like sometimes when I would be rubbing his chest
13 then he would.
14 Q Okay. Did he do it on the second time you went?
15 A No.
16 Q Okay. The third time you went, how were you
17 contacted to go?
18 A Sarah called me again.
19 Q Sarah called you again?
20 Okay. When you got there he asked you to remove
21 your clothing?
22 A Yeah.
23 Q Okay. When you say panties, were they normal
24 panties or were they --
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1 Q A thong.
2 Okay. You provided the massage?
3 A Uh-huh.
4 Q And this was the first time he had you rub his
5 chest?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. While you were rubbing his chest, did he
8 masturbate?
9 A Yes. But this is towards the end.
10 Q Okay. Towards the end of the massage?
11 A No, like towards like the last time I went there.
12 Q Okay.
13 A But yeah, it was towards the end of the massage
14 also. Would you like something to drink?
15 Q No, I'm good. I'm good.
16 A Okay. I've lost all my manners.
17 Q That's all right. Do you know if he climaxed?
18 A I don't know. He still had the towel over him.
19 Q He never removed the towel?
20 A No. Judging by the (inaudible) I think that he
21 did but I never asked if he did.
22 Q And do you know what I mean when I say
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24 A Yes.
25 Q -- and climax?
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1 A Yes.
2 Q Okay. All right. So each time you went to the
3 house, at what point did he try to escalate to more than
4 just a massage?
5 A They would say it was a normal massage and he'd
6 like sit down and talk to you and stuff and then he'd be
7 like all right, well come here and do this and do that and
8 he's like if you told him no he wouldn't, you know, he
9 wouldn't make a big deal out of it. If you told him you
10 felt uncomfortable about anything then --
11 Q Okay. When did he grab your buttocks?
12 A I don't know. One of the times during a massage.
13 Q Okay. Did he ever grab more than just your
14 buttocks?
15 A No, because I made it clear when he did that that
16 I was very uncomfortable and I left.
17 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your breast?
18 A No.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your vagina area?
20 A No.
21 Q Okay. Did he ever bring out any kind of sexual
22 toys?
23 A No.
24 Q When was the last time you were contacted by
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2 wasn't coming back.
3 Q Okay. So January 2005 approximately?
4 A Yes.
5 Q The very last time you went did he continue like
6 when you were giving him a massage masturbate?
7 A No, because I was giving him the massage and he
8 had a clock on the sink and I was looking at the clock and
9 he said why do you keep looking at the clock and I was like
10 I don't know and I was like because my boyfriend is waiting
11 to come pick me up and he's like well, he's like he said
12 you're supposed to make me enjoy my massage right now.
13 Could you please stop looking at the clock. And I was just
14 like well, and he's like if you don't want to do this then
15 you don't have to do this and that's when I told him I don't
16 want to come back anymore because I really don't feel
17 comfortable and, you know, my boyfriend doesn't like that
18 I'm coming here. And then that was it and I haven't spoken
19 to him since.
20 Q On top of the $300 did he ever offer you more
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22 A No. He gave me money for Christmas. He Western
23 Unioned I think it was $200 as a Christmas present but other
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25 Q Last Christmas?
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2 Q Which Western Union did you pick that up at?
3 A The one in Royal Palm and Okeechobee. I think
4 it's The Check Cashing Store. There's a Western Union
5 there.
6 Q Okay. Did you ever take anybody to the house?
7 A No. (Inaudible.)
8 Q Okay. Was there anybody else in the room when you
9 were providing massage --
10 A No.
11 Q -- aside from Shazy?
12 A Aside from Shazy, no.
13 Q Okay. No other assistants?
14 A No.
15 Q Okay. Did he ever offer you monies to go
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17 A No.
18 Q -- than just a massage?
19 Okay. How old were you when you first went there?
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21 Q Seventeen.
22 A And I was 17 the last time I went there too. I
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24 Q When do you turn 18?
25 A June that just passed.
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2 that you would have to provide the massage naked or --
3 A No. They just told me that we were going to do a
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5 Q You were attending Royal Palm Beach High School --
6 A Yes.
7 Q -- okay, at the time?
8 A (Inaudible). I kind of dropped out right in the
9 middle.
10 Q Okay. Did you ever finish school?
11 A No. Actually tomorrow is my GED test.
12 Q Good luck with that.
13 A Thank you. I fell in love, moved to Jupiter, it's
14 going to last forever, blah, blah, blah.
15 Q This is the guy that didn't want you going back
16 anymore?
17 A Yeah. Yeah.
18 Q You guys aren't together anymore?
19 A It's off and on. We were together off and on for
20 nine years so...
21 Q I guess the best thing he did was have you stop
22 going.
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Is there anything else you would like to add?
25 A No. I actually have some questions as to what's
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2 Q Well, this is an ongoing investigation. We
3 received a complaint and we're following it up. Obviously
4 based on the questions that I've asked you, you can pretty
5 much figure out what this is --
6 A He's definitely in custody?
7 Q Not at this time. But this is an ongoing
8 investigation so I would appreciate that if anybody contacts
9 you, I know that friends have been calling each other and
10 telling them oh my God, there's a cop here, whatever, asking
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12 A Yeah, this is Royal Palm. That's big news in this
13 little town.
14 Q Well, I would appreciate it if you didn't, you
15 know, say anything what we discussed. Especially if Faith
16 calls you or anybody else calls you, you could say that I
17 was here and if they have any questions they can give me a
18 call. Obviously if anybody from the Jeffrey's house calls
19 you I'd also appreciate it if you call back and let me know.
20 A Okay.
21 Q All right?
22 A All right.
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4 Q 2005. This is (inaudible) number 7915. I'm
5 Detective (inaudible) Kerry (phonetic). Present with me is
6 Detective Sandman. We are taking a statement from Serina
7 Figueroa. Can you spell your last name for me?
8 A F-I-G-U-E-R-O-A.
9 Q Okay. Serina, I just explained to you that my
10 purpose of speaking with you is that of a witness.
11 Basically in your own words I'd like for you to tell me how
12 you came in contact with this gentleman named Jeff. But
13 before we do anything, raise your right hand for me. Do you
14 solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
15 nothing but the truth so help you God?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Okay. Just start from the beginning just so I
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19 A Okay. Well Haley and me, we were really good
20 friends and we were just hanging out one day and she was
21 like hey, you know, I met this guy and I was wondering if
22 you wanted to make some money. And I was like well, for
23 what? Because I didn't know. She's like well, all you have
24 to do is like massage him for like 200 bucks and I was like
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2 right, will you go over there with me and I was like all
3 right, I'll go. House on Palm Beach Island, why the hell
4 not. I didn't see anything wrong with it.
5 So I went and I sat in the kitchen. I talked to
6 this cook. I wanted to go like upstairs with her but since
7 I wasn't working I was not allowed to go anywhere out of
8 that kitchen. I wasn't allowed to walk around. I wasn't
9 allowed upstairs. Wasn't allowed.
10 Q When did this first happen?
11 A I would say like last year sometime. Like maybe
12 around --
13 Q About a year ago?
14 A About a year ago.
15 Q Okay. All right. And you went and you sat in the
16 kitchen?
17 A Yep.
18 Q So you met with the cook?
19 A Yes. Young guy.
20 Q What's his name? Do you remember?
21 A I do not remember.
22 Q Okay. How many times do you think you've been to
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24 A I'd say about four or five.
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2 Q Now when you went there, obviously you didn't go
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4 A Right.
5 Q -- as they call it. Who did the work the time
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7 A The girls. I went with Haley, I went with Jen.
8 Q Jen as in --
9 A Jen Siciliano.
10 Q Okay.
11 A And this girl Joanna Harrison.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I never went with anyone else.
14 Q You didn't go with anybody else?
15 A No.
16 Q When you went with Haley, did Haley do the work?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Okay. Do you recall a person by the name of Sage
19 (phonetic)?
20 A Yeah.
21 Q Okay. You went with Sage?
22 A I didn't go with her. I was there the day Haley
23 brought her.
24 Q Okay.
25 A Me and Haley both sat in the kitchen that day.
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1 Q Okay. So Sage is the one that worked?
2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Each girl that you went with, Jennifer,
4 Joanna, Sage, they're the ones that did the work?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q And Haley sat in the kitchen?
7 A That one day.
8 Q And do you recall any conversations in the car
9 with either Jennifer, Joanna or Sage that Haley may have had
10 with them as far as what to expect?
11 A I think I remember Haley telling Sage that if he
12 tells you hey, you know what I mean, if you want to do
13 anything else you're still free to say no, you know what I
14 mean? He will -- something to the extent we're like hey, if
15 he's like will you do this feel free to say no and he'll be
16 okay with it pretty much.
17 Q Okay. And what you mean by he wants to do this,
18 it's more than a massage?
19 A Right.
20 Q Okay. What do you know of that goes on up in the
21 massaging or --
22 A Nobody ever wanted to tell me anything. Just that
23 they were giving massages and that was it. I didn't even
24 want to really know too much.
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3 A Yeah.
4 Q -- based on what I found out.
5 A Right.
6 Q Did Haley ever receive money for taking people?
7 A Yes, she did. Every time she brought a girl she
8 made an automatic $200.
9 Q $200.
10 A Uh-huh.
11 Q Who paid her?
12 A I believe it was Jeff.
13 Q Jeff pays her? Did you ever make any money for
14 going with her?
15 A Never one. I never even really talked to him.
16 Like he came down twice I think just to say hello and that
17 was pretty much it. He shook my hand and that was it.
18 Q Okay. Who else that you know of might have come
19 to the house?
20 A I know a lot of girls that went there. Sage,
21 Lauren, Lauren Murphy, Vanessa (inaudible). I'm trying to
22 think. Nicole (inaudible).
23 Q Okay.
24 A I can't remember anybody else.
25 Q And did Haley take these people as well?
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1 A Yeah. I'm pretty sure.
2 Q Okay.
3 A She's the one that told us all about it.
4 Q How do you think Haley met him?
5 A I have no idea.
6 Q No?
7 A I think I asked her once but I don't know. Me and
8 Haley don't talk anymore. We haven't talked for a while.
9 No idea.
10 Q Okay. During the drive, was there anybody out of
11 the three that you recall Jennifer, Joanna, Sage, aside from
12 what was said, did she say if you do this, you get this, if
13 you do that, you get this, the more you do, the more you get
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15 A No. She never said anything like that. She just
16 said that you get 200 bucks for like a massage. That was
17 pretty much it. Nothing else. She never said anything like
18 sexual.
19 Q Okay.
20 A I had a feeling she was lying about her age and --
21 Q Who?
22 A Sage.
23 Q Sage was?
24 A Uh-huh.
25 Q Do you know her last name?
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1 A I have no idea. I remember her telling us she's a
2 twin but...
3 Q How old were these people when they went?
4 Obviously they were in high school.
5 A Right. I'd say between 16, 17 years old.
6 Q Why do you think she was lying about her age?
7 A Because she just looked really young. She was
8 really confused about what was going on. I just -- she just
9 had 200 -- she was just like wow. You know? She just
10 looked really young. Things about her.
11 Q Really?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she was?
14 A I think she said she was 17 and I think she looked
15 like she was like 15. Fifteen.
16 Q Okay. Does she still go to Royal Palm High
17 School?
18 A I have no idea. I'm not there anymore.
19 Q Okay. Okay. Did you ever meet any of his
20 assistants?
21 A One girl. I forget her name but she's what do you
22 call it? Like a secretary. She answered all his phone
23 calls. Really pretty girl. Really pretty blond girl. She
24 was a model. I don't remember what her name was.
25 Q Okay. All right.
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1 A She was very nice. Really, really, really nice.
2 Q Out of the four or five times that you went, three
3 of these girls worked and Haley worked the rest?
4 A Yeah. Pretty much. The only time I really went
5 was with Haley so I went with -- see she was like always
6 there all the time, Haley. She'd come with me and Jen, she
7 was with me and Joanna and then the one time with, you know,
8 Sage. They always asked me to work. I never did. Never.
9 I couldn't. There's just something wrong about that. You
10 know, I'm not stupid.
11 Q Do you know if any of these girls had any formal
12 massage training?
13 A No. I don't think so.
14 Q No? Not hard to figure that out?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
17 add to the statement?
18 A No. I'm just upset. That's all I know.
19 Q Before I end this, just real quick, I just changed
20 my mind, how long ago did Jennifer Siciliano go?
21 A I'd say about a year ago too.
22 Q A year?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Joanna?
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4 Q Okay. What about Sage?
5 A Yep. About a year ago.
6 Q Year ago? Okay. Okay. Well, at this time I'm
7 going to go ahead and conclude this statement. Again, I
8 appreciate you meeting with me.
9 A Thank you.
10 Q Do you have any questions?
11 A Nope.
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4 Q -- 2005. This is ID number 7915. Detective
5 (inaudible) with the Town of Palm Beach Police Department.
6 Present is Detective Michael Dawson from the Palm Beach
7 Police Department. And would you state your name for the
8 record?
9 A Lauren Murphy.
10 Q Would you raise your right hand for me, please?
11 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
12 nothing but the truth so help you God?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Okay. And here's my card.
15 A Okay.
16 Q Okay. Obviously I am here because we are working
17 a case involving Jeff Epstein or Jeffrey, and I understand
18 you may have some information as to your visits over to his
19 house either to work or to visit.
20 A Uh-huh.
21 Q If you could, please, in your own words, tell me
22 from the beginning how you were introduced to Mr. Epstein.
23 A Vanessa introduced me. She brought me over and
24 she said like the first time I went over there just to him
25 and she went and did her massage and I just sat in his house
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1 and waited.
2 Q Okay. How long ago was this?
3 A Like seven months ago. It was actually March.
4 Q March 2005?
5 A Uh-huh.
6 Q Okay.
7 A And then after he met me he asked for a massage
8 and I was kind of hesitant because it was kind of weird but
9 I did it anyways and I went up there and gave him a massage
10 and he gave me 200 the first time.
11 Q Okay. How many times have you been to his house
12 total?
13 A Between like seven and ten from the time I started
14 from like once a month.
15 Q Seven to ten times a month -- seven to ten times?
16 A Yeah.
17 Q When was the last time you were there?
18 A September the 28th. Not last (inaudible).
19 Q Okay. Okay. All right. And what was your duties
20 when you went to work for him?
21 A Just giving him a massage and that's it.
22 Q Okay. Okay. When you entered to the house, who
23 were you introduced to?
24 A Introduced to every time I went?
25 Q No, like the first time.
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1 A The first time I went just Sarah and him.
2 Q Sarah and Jeff?
3 A Uh-huh. And there was other people there but I
4 wasn't introduced to them.
5 Q Okay.
6 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
7 Q Do you know Sarah's last name?
8 A (No audible response.)
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10 Q Okay.
11 A I can give you her name.
12 Q It's a 917 number or something? Yeah. I know.
13 I've interviewed a lot of girls and basically
14 everybody has told me what -- some have held back, some have
15 told me the complete truth.
16 A Okay.
17 Q So what I want you to do is tell me the complete
18 truth of what happened. Okay?
19 A That's what happened.
20 Q Okay.
21 A I mean I know girls that have done more but I
22 haven't. He's asked me. I'm not going to lie to you. But
23 I haven't known him that long.
24 Q Okay. Your first time you went you just sat in
25 the kitchen and waited for Vanessa, correct?
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1 A Uh-huh. Yeah. Plus he wanted to meet me.
2 Q Okay. As you've gone, tell me has anything
3 escalated from just a massage?
4 A No. Like the first time I went I waited. The
5 second time I went I stayed in all my clothes and like gave
6 him a massage and I think the third time I went he asked me
7 if I'd like to get like more naked or whatever and I said
8 no. I don't feel comfortable. After that he never asked me
9 anything that made me feel uncomfortable.
10 Q Do you give the massage in your under garments?
11 A No.
12 Q Completely clothed?
13 A Completely clothed, yeah.
14 Q Okay.
15 A I mean he's asked me but I said no because I just
16 don't feel comfortable doing that.
17 Q Has he touched you?
18 A No.
19 Q Has he --
20 A Of course he's touched me. He's given me a hug
21 goodbye. But not in a perv way.
22 Q Okay. So basically you just massaged him?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And you received $200?
25 A Uh-huh.
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1 Q For a massage?
2 A Uh-huh.
3 Q Each time?
4 A The last couple times he gave me 300 because I
5 told him I needed money and I told him that driving here
6 from Orlando was costing me a lot. I never asked
7 (inaudible).
8 Q Was there anybody else in the room while you were
9 giving him a massage?
10 A No.
11 Q Just you and him?
12 A Just me and him.
13 Q You've never gone upstairs with Vanessa?
14 A Yeah, I have, but not while I was giving a
15 massage.
16 Q Okay.
17 A One time we were there we were hanging out just
18 talking and stuff.
19 Q Have you recently been contacted by anybody
20 working for Jeff?
21 A Uh-huh. Yes.
22 Q Who have you been in contact with?
23 A I can't really -- oh, this guy named Paul. I
24 don't know how he's affiliated but he just wanted to know
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2 Q Okay. Did he leave you a number? Did he leave
3 you --
4 A He didn't leave me a number but it's on my phone I
5 think.
6 Q Okay. Can you do that? Can I get that number?
7 A Uh-huh. It's not on here anymore but I swear it's
8 a 305 number.
9 Q It's a 305 number?
10 A Yeah.
11 Q And where did he say he --
12 A Actually it might be on my old phone. My old
13 phone is dead but it's on this one because --
14 Q Is that a Nextel?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Dead battery.
17 A But it has a (inaudible).
18 Q Oh. Can you plug that in?
19 A Yeah.
20 Q And what did Paul ask you?
21 A Just what was going on with this whole thing and
22 that's it. I just told him --
23 Q Did he come up here or did you meet with him in
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25 A He came up here.
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1 Q Oh, he came up here?
2 A Yeah.
3 Q He met you right here?
4 A Not here. I met him at Wal-Mart and I just -- he
5 just kept asking me questions that I didn't know the answer
6 to so...
7 Q Was he an investigator? Was he an attorney?
8 A I don't know. I don't think he was an attorney
9 because he kept saying the information he's getting from me
10 is going to go to Jeff's attorney so I don't think he was an
11 attorney.
12 Q What kind of questions was he asking? If the
13 police were involved?
14 A Yeah. If -- how the police got involved. I said
15 I don't know. What kind of questions they were asking me.
16 I said I don't know because I haven't been questioned yet
17 and just like how old I was and basically like you guys are
18 asking what I did when I went there.
19 Q Now how old were you when you first started going
20 there?
21 A Eighteen. I'm 19 now this last March.
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23 Q March of '05, right?
24 A Yeah. And I turned 19.
25 Q And did he question Saige at the same time?
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1 A No.
2 Q Did he ever?
3 A No. Saige said she didn't want to.
4 Q Okay. And he said he was a representative of
5 Jeffrey Epstein?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Did he call you or did Jeffrey or Sarah --
8 A No, he called me. This is the number. It's
9 305 --
10 Q Uh-huh.
11 A -- 710-5165.
12 Q Okay. When was this you met him?
13 A Like two, three -- it was Friday or Saturday.
14 Q Did he come by himself?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Did he tape the conversation?
17 A No. He asked me and I said no.
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19 Q Okay. If he reaches out to you again just give
20 him my number and have him call me.
21 A Uh-huh.
22 Q Okay?
23 A He asked for your number but I didn't -- I had a
24 number (inaudible) and then I was just like you know that's
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1 Q I'm with the Palm Beach Police.
2 A Oh, like Palm Beach Island?
3 Q Yeah. Town Hall.
4 A I told him the Palm Beach Sheriff's Department.
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6 Q When you went to Jeffrey Epstein, where was the
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8 A On Palm Beach.
9 Q In Palm Beach?
10 A Yeah. Oh, the guy asked me also if I was ever
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13 Q With Jeffrey?
14 A Yeah. And I said no because (inaudible).
15 Q At his house. Okay. So basically all you did was
16 a standard massage?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q Messaged what?
19 A His back and his lower back and his feet.
20 Q Okay. Have you ever seen him naked?
21 A No. In a towel but that's it.
22 Q That's it. Has he ever touched you?
23 A No.
24 Q Has he ever touched himself while you were
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1 A No. He was mostly like on the phone like my
2 friend told me he's never that way toward me. He asked me
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5 Q What did he ask you?
6 A He asked me like the third time I went there.
7 Q To do what?
8 A If I wanted to get naked or do anything more and I
9 said no and I think he could tell I was like uncomfortable
10 with it so.
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12 Q Okay. All right. So aside from Sarah and
13 Jeffrey, did you meet anybody else in the house?
14 A I met -- yeah, but I don't know like I didn't meet
15 them but I've seen them. Like I know who (inaudible) and
16 I've seen a little like short -- I don't even know. Some
17 lady out there didn't speak well English and then there was
18 a guy with blond hair and he doesn't speak that well English
19 either.
20 Q Okay.
21 A And but I know (inaudible) introduced to them and
22 then Atriana or Adriana or whatever her name is --
23 Q Uh-huh?
24 A I was never introduced. I'd just seen her and
25 said hi to her before. Then Sarah and Jeff I've met
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2 Q And you would travel from Orlando down there just
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4 A Huh-huh. My family lives there so...
5 Q Okay. For the record your date of birth is?
6 A 6/1/86.
7 Q Okay. Aside from Vanessa has anybody else asked
8 to you go over there?
9 A Haley, but I never went with her.
10 Q Okay. So the very first time you went to the
11 house was with Vanessa?
12 A Uh-huh.
13 Q And Haley approached you when?
14 A At the same time Vanessa did but I'm friends with
15 Vanessa. I wasn't really friends with Haley and I knew
16 Hailey was making money off of it.
17 Q It was no secret. I mean everybody knows that
18 Haley was working for him.
19 A Yeah. Everybody knew that.
20 Q I know that.
21 A So I just was like I don't know you that well. He
22 wanted to make money off of Vanessa. I just wanted to go
23 with Vanessa because she know him and she know like the
24 situation so I went with her.
25 Q How far has Vanessa gone with him?
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2 gone farther than me but she doesn't really go into detail
3 about it.
4 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
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6 A No.
7 MALE SPEAKER: No. Okay. At this time I'm
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4 Q Today's date is October 4th, 2005. This is ID
5 number 7915 Detective (inaudible) of the Palm Beach Police
6 Department. Present at 1301 (inaudible) Road is Detective
7 Michael Dawson of the Palm Beach Police Department.
8 And can you state your name for the record?
9 A Faith Pentek.
10 Q Faith, how do you spell your last name?
11 A P-E-N-T-E-K.
12 Q Okay. How old are you?
13 A I'm 18.
14 Q Eighteen. Okay. You're currently in college?
15 A Yeah.
16 Q Okay. What college are you attending?
17 A Valencia.
18 Q Valencia. Okay. And your date of birth is?
19 A 6/30/87.
20 Q Okay. Can you raise your right hand for me? Do
21 you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
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24 Q Faith, if you could tell me from the beginning how
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2 night, spoke with your mom and dad. If you can just start
3 from the beginning as to how you met him.
4 A Okay.
5 Q And how it came about.
6 A I met him through my friend Haley.
7 Q Okay. How long ago was that?
8 A It was probably about almost a year ago.
9 Q Okay. Okay.
10 A And he -- I went there once with her and she gave
11 him a massage and then she asked me if I wanted to do it and
12 I did it or whatever and then after that like he kind of
13 scared me when I went there so I just decided not to go
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15 Q Okay. The first time you went with Haley did you
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17 A No, I stayed downstairs.
18 Q Did Haley tell you that -- what was entailed as to
19 what had to be done?
20 A Well she said the first time you go it's just like
21 a massage and she said well like well the more you go
22 supposedly the more he like expects and likes flirting with
23 girls and that's what kind of like scared me.
24 Q Okay. I've interviewed other girls and they've
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1 there's more to that. More to the massage. Okay? That's
2 why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me
3 about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other
4 people already who've told me what transpired in that room.
5 I know it's going to be difficult for you but...
6 A Well the first time I went there I did a massage
7 and he was just asking me a lot of questions, he seemed
8 really nice, and then he kept like staring at me and stuff.
9 And then like I did a massage and he just kept looking at me
10 and he was like oh, you're being shy and I'm like yeah. And
11 he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I was like yeah, a
12 little bit. And he's like okay. And he's like well do you
13 want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. And he was like
14 why are you like being shy and I was like oh, I don't know
15 and then he would like change the subject and he started
16 talking about other things. And then when we were done he
17 said that if like I wanted to come back and do more then he
18 would like to pay me more and then I would have to talk to
19 Haley and I could come back.
20 Q Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as
21 you were massaging him?
22 A He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't
23 remember everything but...
24 Q Right.
25 A He was asking me if I had any friends that would
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2 asked me about what I wanted to do when I grew up and stuff
3 like that and I asked him what he did and he said he was
4 like a scientist basically.
5 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you how old you were?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Did he know that you were 17?
8 A No, I don't think so.
9 Q Well it would have been 16 if it was a year ago,
10 right?
11 A Well it was almost a year ago. (Inaudible.)
12 Q Okay. During the massage did you -- were you
13 naked or --
14 A No. I had my clothes on.
15 Q You had all your clothes on?
16 A Uh-huh.
17 Q Okay. Did he touch you in anyway?
18 A He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I
19 was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he
20 didn't but I heard about other girls that he -- that he got
21 flirtatious with them and he made them take off their
22 clothes and stuff.
23 Q Okay. What -- that was the first time you went,
24 right?
25 A Yeah.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Well, no, it was the second time I gave him a
3 massage. The first time I went up with Haley.
4 Q You went upstairs with Haley?
5 A No, I was in the kitchen.
6 Q You were in the kitchen. You only had two times
7 that you went there?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q The first time you didn't do anything but just sit
10 in the kitchen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Who did you sit in the kitchen with?
13 A He had a cook that was there and he had -- there
14 was like two other girls that live with him.
15 Q Okay. Did you massage his back? Was he naked
16 when you were massaging him?
17 A Well, he had like a towel around his -- his upper
18 was (inaudible) but he had like a towel around him.
19 Q Okay. Did he ever remove that towel?
20 A No.
21 Q When you were massaging him he never removed the
22 towel?
23 A No.
24 Q Okay. Did you -- did he have you touch his
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1 A No. No. I wouldn't do that.
2 Q You wouldn't do that?
3 Okay. Did he touch you in your private area?
4 A No. No.
5 Q No.
6 A He kept like staring at me and like, I don't know,
7 I just felt uncomfortable and I left. But I heard other
8 stories that like --
9 Q Right. I'm concerned with you. I know about
10 other stories and I've interviewed other people have told me
11 different things. That's why I'm trying to find out what
12 happened to you. Okay? You're the victim in this so that's
13 why I'm trying to find out what happens to you.
14 A Uh-huh.
15 Q Okay? Who took you upstairs to the room?
16 A This girl Sarah that lives with him.
17 Q Okay. So Sarah took you up?
18 A Yeah.
19 Q Did she tell you anything? Did she say anything?
20 A Huh-huh. There's a massage table and she just
21 laid a towel down and she said that Jeffrey will be out for
22 his massage.
23 Q Okay. Have you received any massage training?
24 A No.
25 Q No. I have to ask.
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2 kitchen with you?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Did you ever go back to his house?
5 A Well, I just went there twice.
6 Q Right.
7 A After that --
8 Q After that you've never come back? Never went
9 back?
10 How much did you receive for the massage?
11 A Two hundred.
12 Q You received 200.
13 Okay. Did Haley explain to you what was going to
14 be involved?
15 A She said the first time you go there you pretty
16 much just give a massage but the more you go there the more
17 he expects so that's it. That scared me.
18 Q That's what scared you?
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23 like, you know, like taking your clothes off and stuff like
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2 Q Okay. So you didn't remove any of your clothing?
3 A No.
4 Q What were you wearing? Can you remember?
5 A I don't know. It was a long time ago. I don't
6 remember exactly.
7 Q Okay.
8 A I don't want to tell you wrong.
9 Q I know. And I know you already told your mom what
10 happened. And like I said, I know this is hard for you
11 but...
12 A I was just scared. I just didn't want my name to
13 like --
14 Q Don't worry. You're not the only person I've
15 talked to. Okay? There's a lot of people that I've talked
16 to and I'm going to talk to.
17 How did you get to his house?
18 A With Haley.
19 Q Haley. Haley took you the first time and you sat
20 in the kitchen.
21 A Yeah.
22 Q What about the second time?
23 A The second time I drove and she came with me.
24 Because I didn't want to --
25 Q You drove. What is it you drive?
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1 A I used to have a Cavalier.
2 Q A Cavalier. What color?
3 A Red.
4 Q Okay. Can you describe to me what Mr. Epstein
5 looks like? Jeffrey looks like?
6 A He's tall and he has like greyish/black hair and
7 he usually wears like glasses and he has blue eyes.
8 Q Okay. When you messaged him, you messaged his
9 back area?
10 A Yes. And I did his feet too.
11 Q And his feet. Okay. Did you do his legs?
12 A Yeah, like his calves.
13 Q His calves. Thigh area?
14 A No.
15 Q His chest area?
16 A No.
17 Q No. Can you describe what his body looks like?
18 A He's not fat but he's not like thin. He's like
19 normal like average.
20 Q Average? Okay. Is he hairy? Is he not hairy?
21 A A little bit.
22 Q A little bit? A little bit he's got hair on his
23 back?
24 A Yeah.
25 Q Yeah? How about hair on his chest?
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2 Q You don't remember? Okay.
3 He did not touch you inappropriately?
4 A No.
5 Q No. Did he masturbate?
6 A No.
7 Q No. Do you know what masturbate means?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q Okay. Why don't you tell me what it means just so
10 I know that you know.
11 A Playing with yourself.
12 Q Okay. Okay. I have to make sure you understand
13 what it means. Okay? I know it's difficult. He didn't
14 touch himself --
15 A No.
16 Q -- while you were massaging him?
17 A No.
18 Q No. Is there anything else you'd like to add?
19 A No. I mean I heard of other stories that he did
20 and I don't think it's very like appropriate like --
21 Q Right.
22 A -- the stories I heard.
23 Q Right. Well, a lot of people that I've been
24 talking to are about your age and a couple younger than you
25 so that's the part that I have serious problems with.
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1 A Yeah.
2 MALE SPEAKER: Do you have any questions?
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4 Q Did you see any others -- when you were there you
5 said there were two girls in the kitchen. The second time
6 you went you went with Haley. Were there any other girls
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8 A Yeah, there were the same two girls that were
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10 Q Same two girls? Okay.
11 A I'm pretty sure they like live and travel with
12 him.
13 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. All right. Well at
14 this time I'm going to conclude this statement.
15 It's 11:45 a.m.
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3 A -- say anything to you about this (inaudible),
4 right?
5 Q You know we're not argue again. We're not going
6 to keep much from you.
7 A I just don't want to rat anybody out. I'm not an
8 idiot. Come on, now.
9 Q That wasn't more of a ratting out. It was more of
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12 Q You got it.
13 A (Inaudible.)
14 Q You're a smart girl.
15 A I'm not an idiot.
16 Q Yeah. No, you're not an idiot.
17 A I guess karma, you know.
18 Q (Inaudible.) I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't
19 even know who he is.
20 A I don't know. It's such a big -- there's so many
21 girls out there that have worked for him it's not even
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23 Q Really?
24 A Like I said some bring friends who bring friends
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1 MALE SPEAKER: All right. You notified
2 (inaudible).
3 MALE SPEAKER 2: I notified Jimmy.
4 MALE SPEAKER: Give him a call. (Inaudible)
5 692 -- our ending mileage was 692323, I'm sorry,
6 6923. Our beginning mileage to head back
7 southwest -- (inaudible) white female (inaudible)
8 same mileage 6923. What was that?
9 MALE SPEAKER 2: Fire truck.
10 THE WITNESS: So when will I know what's
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13 Q Well, here's the thing. What are you doing
14 tomorrow? Well, no, here's our goal. We would like to at
15 least like to talk to -- help me. We want to try to --
16 A (Inaudible.)
17 Q Right. Tonight.
18 A Tonight I'm free so tomorrow I go to school from
19 12 to 4.
20 Q Uh-huh.
21 A Wednesday I get (inaudible).
22 Q Well, tomorrow what are you doing after 4:00?
23 A Nothing.
24 Q Okay. Do you have to go to work.
25 A (Inaudible) Thursday.
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1 Q Okay. We would prefer to do it sooner than later
2 and our request from you at this point as we move along is
3 really for you to make that phone call and introduce us and
4 say, you know, these are the detectives from the Palm Beach
5 Police Department. I've told them everything. They're on
6 their way to your house. Do you know these girls' schedules
7 by chance? Anything like that? Do they still go to high
8 school?
9 A Well Jen still goes to high school. She's a
10 senior.
11 Q Okay. And that's who we want to speak to tonight.
12 From what you're telling us we're confident Jen will not be
13 going and talking to Jeffrey. Depending on how that goes we
14 might ask give you a call and ask you to make another call.
15 If we could break out the list, make sure we have our little
16 order of obviously Vanessa, based on what you're saying,
17 should be the last on our list. We don't know if she's
18 still --
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: She's in Orlando. We can
20 (inaudible) over the phone.
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22 Q Now didn't you say she was back though?
23 A (Inaudible) back. I don't know if she has class
24 tomorrow but I don't know if she left already or not.
25 Q What kind of class? College?
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1 A College. She's up in Orlando. I don't know. She
2 might have already left. What is today? Monday?
3 Q Yeah.
4 A She might have already left today. She had class
5 today.
6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A Yeah, she does. Very rarely to see her parents
8 and stuff. Like she lives up in Orlando. She might come
9 back once a month to visit her parents.
10 Q Now do you talk to Faith at all? Not really?
11 A I hung out with her last night. She came down
12 from college and stuff. But --
13 Q That was Sunday night so she was around just last
14 night.
15 A She was around last night but like I said I
16 don't -- she might be still here, she might be up in Orlando
17 now.
18 Q Okay. What about Serina?
19 A Oh, I don't like her. I don't like her. What
20 about her? She never worked for Jeffrey but she's been to
21 his house before. She knows about it. Knows about
22 everything that went on. She was the one that was with
23 (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. Does Jen Siciliano (inaudible)?
25 A I don't know.
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1 Q Then (inaudible) lives a couple blocks away from
2 you, yeah?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q Okay. Serina lives (inaudible.)
5 A (Inaudible.)
6 Q Okay. Why are you afraid of (inaudible)?
7 A Oh, no. I'm not afraid -- you know, what it comes
8 down to? It comes down to this. I'm not afraid of any of
9 those girls but when I am with (inaudible) Serina, Serina
10 cries to Lilly and Lilly was brought in to our (inaudible)
11 which was stupid and instead of being (inaudible) about what
12 happened three years ago, Lilly was like I'm going to kick
13 your ass, da da da, and I was like you know what? Leave me
14 alone pretty much. It got ridiculous. I had to change my
15 number and I saw her at (inaudible) one night. She jumped
16 me from behind. I go you didn't say anything to me all
17 night and when she jumped me from behind she jumped me so
18 whatever. Girls are stupid.
19 Q All right. Who else is on that list you got
20 there, Jim? You know a girl named Ashley?
21 A Ashley.
22 (Inaudible cell phone discussion.)
23 A So what if Jen's not home?
24 Q Okay. Well we'll move on. Right now we want you
25 to help us with an order of who in your mind (inaudible)
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1 you're confident was 16 or maybe 17 when they went there,
2 who probably no longer has connections with Jeff (inaudible)
3 who at least maybe a day might keep their mouth shut.
4 A Okay. Well with Serina I don't know how old she
5 is because she lied about her age. She lied to me when I
6 first met her. When I was 18 she told me she was 18.
7 (Inaudible.) Well she left her purse at my house and she
8 told me to make sure that I didn't look in her purse. When
9 I went through her purse I found her state license that said
10 she was 16 so she lied to me about her age. I don't care
11 about work for Jeffrey but --
12 Q We're looking for girls that went upstairs with
13 Jeff.
14 A Yeah.
15 Q Those three or four girls, whatever you can, you
16 know, help us out with here, that is our goal in the next
17 let's say 24 hours.
18 A Okay.
19 Q Is to reach out to as many of those girls and it
20 might be as simple as we give you a call on you cell
21 phone --
22 A And you call them.
23 Q And you say hey, wee need you to call this girl
24 and say we're out front because that's definitely when
25 there's (inaudible) where these girls live tonight so that
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1 we can reach out to them and say hey, Haley, we're out in
2 front of so and so's house, can you give her a call and let
3 her know that there's a couple of detectives outside and no,
4 not kidding, they really are there and heads up. You know
5 what I mean?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q What we'd like to -- we've got a half hour there
8 is we can try to make some details on that so we're all on
9 the same page, that's what we're going to do. So how many
10 girls was on the list that we started with?
11 A You asked me if I knew an Ashley.
12 Q That's what we're going to need is the last names
13 of these girls as well.
14 A I don't know.
15 Q That's okay. Angela?
16 A Angela? I've heard of a girl named Angela but I
17 don't know (inaudible), you know? To my knowledge I don't
18 know. (Inaudible?)
19 Q No. (Inaudible?)
20 A Angela (inaudible) now that I know I know a girl
21 named Angela but I definitely (inaudible) not like that.
22 Q (Inaudible.)
23 A Don't know. I know (inaudible).
24 Q Besides Jen who else ended up upstairs with Jeff?
25 A That's it.
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1 Q Okay.
2 A Saige.
3 Q Okay. Saige. Do you know their last names?
4 A Serina's last name I don't know. I don't know
5 (inaudible). Vanessa (inaudible). Faith Pentek. Yolanda
6 Lopez. And I know Jen's brother, (inaudible). I think the
7 last name is Reyes. I don't know if (inaudible) or anything
8 because I know (inaudible). It might be Reyes.
9 Q (Inaudible?)
10 A (Inaudible.)
11 Q (Inaudible.)
12 A (Inaudible.)
13 Q Do you know their phone numbers by chance or do
14 you have them in your phone maybe?
15 A Let me check. Okay. What's the first girl?
16 Q Faith.
17 A Faith? Faith I know by heart. It's 313-3730 and
18 it's a 561.
19 Q Vanessa (inaudible).
20 A Vanessa I don't even have in my phone.
21 Q Serina?
22 A Serina, I know hers by heart. 317-3248. Area
23 code 561.
24 Q How about Yolanda Lopez?
25 A Yolanda Lopez, no, I don't know her number at all.
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1 Q (Inaudible.)
2 A -- 9566. I'm pretty sure that's it because that's
3 the only ones I have.
4 Q Jennifer Reyes?
5 A I know her brother's number but Jennifer Reyes, I
6 don't have her number.
7 Q Is that his cell? Okay.
8 A (Inaudible.) Jennifer will have, Jen Siciliano
9 should have Yolanda Lopez because they hang out.
10 Q They hang out.
11 A Quite a bit. And you should also (inaudible) and
12 Vanessa (inaudible), I know the first three digits it's 635,
13 635, it might be 3454 but I haven't talked to her in a
14 while.
15 Q So if we start with Jen tonight, what you just
16 said is Jen could introduce us to Yolanda who could then
17 introduce us to --
18 A To Jen Reyes.
19 MALE SPEAKER 2: Jen Reyes. Okay. Jen hangs
20 out with Vanessa. Obviously I'm going to talk to
21 Vanessa last.
22 BY MALE SPEAKER:
23 Q Right. We want to avoid Vanessa at all costs. So
24 my question to you is these three girls --
25 A They all know each other.
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1 Q They know each other.
2 A They all know each other.
3 Q Even Vanessa.
4 A They know Vanessa. They know everybody. It's
5 like a group of people who all know each other.
6 Q (Inaudible.)
7 A The only one they might not know is (inaudible)
8 but...
9 Q All we've got is the a group of girls that --
10 A They've all heard of each other (inaudible).
11 Q They all go to school with each other to your
12 knowledge?
13 A Some of them. Not all of them but some of them
14 still go to school together.
15 Q Jen Siciliano. Does she still go to school?
16 A She still goes to Royal Palm Beach High School.
17 Q Okay.
18 A Yolanda? I don't know if Yolanda graduated last
19 year or (inaudible) and Jen Reyes I'm not sure. Might have
20 graduated last year. (Inaudible.)
21 Q Okay. So they won't have as much contact as the
22 other group. (Inaudible).
23 A (Inaudible.)
24 Q My office is warm. The bull pen out there is luke
25 warm. Yeah, and it's a twenty-year building so nothing
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1 really circulates as it should. (Inaudible) in the car. If
2 there's anybody that (inaudible). Vanessa we're not going
3 to talk to.
4 MALE SPEAKER 2: (Inaudible.)
5 THE WITNESS: (Inaudible) call her open your
6 mouth (inaudible).
7 BY MALE SPEAKER:
8 Q We will absolutely tell them that that they would
9 be expecting an investigation.
10 A The only one that's going to open her mouth is
11 probably Serina. The only one who won't say anything would
12 be Vanessa.
13 Q Are these girls, you know, are they embarrassed
14 about what they've done? Would they rather nobody know if
15 it possible or are they out there flaunting it?
16 A They don't care. These girls don't care. For the
17 most part they don't care.
18 Q Okay.
19 A Otherwise they wouldn't do it.
20 Q I tend to agree but that doesn't mean (inaudible)
21 get in on the action or (inaudible) in general?
22 A (Inaudible.)
23 Q (Inaudible) that (inaudible) call dispatch. A
24 couple of females, get some addresses after we're done with
25 Jen I think (inaudible) talking about next? (Inaudible) oh,
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2 A Well, I don't know (inaudible).
3 Q We should probably try her since she would be
4 leaving. You want to try -- Faith is of to college.
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 A -- in charge of the cars, the swimming pool, the
4 grounds and so I was basically, you know, the only one in
5 charge when they were away too.
6 Q Okay. He's not here much though.
7 A No. He has several houses.
8 Q Right. Did you stay on property?
9 A Yes, I did.
10 Q Okay. In the guest house section?
11 A Yes. Guest house.
12 Q Okay. Which is the house --
13 A Exactly.
14 Q -- just next to the kitchen door.
15 A Exactly.
16 Q Right?
17 A Yes.
18 Q Right outside.
19 A Next to the kitchen.
20 Q Okay. During your time of employment there, what
21 was your relationship with Mr. Epstein like?
22 A Well, he mostly wanted to be alone unless
23 important matter so sometimes I will have to call New York
24 to his secretary to call his personal assistant so I could
25 talk to him because we're not supposed to go to the second
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1 floor when he was there most of the time.
2 Q All right. So if he was in residence and he was
3 in his room in the master bedroom --
4 A Yes.
5 Q -- and you needed to speak to him, you couldn't?
6 A No, I couldn't knock. That was requested for all
7 of us. For, you know, there were four people at the time
8 helping me and running the compound.
9 Q Who were the four people that were helping you?
10 A (inaudible) who is the housekeeper I think is
11 still with him and then (inaudible) guy with me and Jerome.
12 Q Uh-huh.
13 A And those are full time. And then we have the
14 swimming pool lady used to come three or four times a week.
15 Q Okay.
16 A And the gardener. His name is (inaudible) I
17 forget his name. A guy who you lives in Wellington.
18 Q Okay.
19 A He would be most of the days but when he left they
20 weren't supposed to be there, you know.
21 Q Okay. So who would you call in New York to get a
22 hold of --
23 A Leslie.
24 Q Leslie?
25 A Yes.
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1 Q That's his secretary?
2 A That's his secretary.
3 Q In New York?
4 A Yes. 264 Madison Avenue is the address.
5 Q Okay. And then she would call his assistant?
6 A I guess that was Sarah. She still is. That's his
7 personal assistant.
8 Q Okay. Describe Sarah for me, if you can.
9 A Sarah is a very young, beautiful. I think she was
10 born in North Carolina.
11 Q Uh-huh.
12 A Very spirited, beautiful girl inside and out.
13 Q Okay. How old would you say she is?
14 A Sarah I think 24, 23, something like that.
15 Q Okay. All right. And then she would in turn tell
16 Mr. Epstein that you need to see him?
17 A Yes, exactly. We weren't supposed to bother him
18 unless was a real -- he will get not angry but I mean he
19 wouldn't like any of us going upstairs and when we notice he
20 will go away then we will go upstairs and fix the room, you
21 know, make sure we clean everything up.
22 Q Okay. If he had guests come over and they went
23 upstairs, after he left his room would you go upstairs and
24 tidy up or --
25 A Well, I will greet them and I will be sure who are
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1 them and they usually give me a list of the people who will
2 go and I will make them feel comfortable in the kitchen,
3 offer them a drink, and he can sometimes he will give me
4 orders to send people upstairs.
5 Q Okay. So they would go upstairs. First of all,
6 who would give you a list of people who were coming?
7 A Sarah.
8 Q Sarah.?
9 A She would say at that time so and so is coming.
10 Q And then you'll make them comfortable in the
11 kitchen and either he would come down or Sarah would come
12 down?
13 A Yes. And at that time I will go to the staff
14 house or another part of the house and he will take over,
15 you know, the cabana or the swimming pool.
16 Q Okay. When the guests would leave and Mr. Epstein
17 would come down stairs, would you go upstairs to clean or
18 tidy up?
19 A No. Not with him there in the bedroom.
20 Q No. What I'm saying he would come downstairs.
21 A Yeah. Sometimes (inaudible). Sometimes we need
22 to be there but not be heard so we run upstairs and pick up
23 the towels and clear the beds and bathroom and everything
24 because we have a manual that everything has to be tidy in a
25 certain way so that's our routine.
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1 Q Okay. When he was in residence, would there be
2 certain girls coming by to go see him for massages?
3 A Yes. Most every day.
4 Q Every day?
5 A Yes.
6 Q When he would be in residence?
7 A One in the morning, one in the afternoon give
8 massage.
9 Q Twice a day.
10 A Yes.
11 Q Okay. Okay. Describe these girls to me.
12 A He will have prior to me coming to the house he
13 will for some reasons he will pick out from a long list I
14 guess a lot of people that like to do work (inaudible).
15 They will give massage sometimes to him and his companion
16 and they were nice in the sense of you know I remember one
17 there was (inaudible) that live here in Palm Beach Gardens I
18 guess. She was very nice. I mean usually the people there,
19 you know, general nice people.
20 Q Okay. Did they appear young to you?
21 A Yes. They were young. You know, (inaudible) all
22 of them. Twenty-eight or something like that.
23 Q Anybody younger than 18?
24 A You had to say that, sir. You know there were a
25 lot of girls that were very, very young but you know for me
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1 to say they were minors, you know, you know, I never see
2 their driver's license. They look very young.
3 Q Do you recall any of the names of the girls?
4 A I have to -- see I have some notes that I have a
5 manual because I used to call in once in a while and I don't
6 recall right at this moment but I know who they are and some
7 live in town.
8 Q In Palm Beach or --
9 A Some are west Wellington or one was in high school
10 in Royal Palm Beach High School I think it's called.
11 Q Okay. Do you remember that girl's name?
12 A I rent a car to her but I don't -- to be honest
13 with you I don't remember exactly. I have --
14 Q You rented a car for her?
15 A Yeah, he ask me to rent a car for her.
16 Q Do you know what kind of car it was?
17 A It was a Dodge Neon.
18 Q A Dodge Neon. Color?
19 A I think it was a blue Neon from Dollar Rent-a-Car.
20 Q From Dollar?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A It was my driver's license that I use so...
24 Q Did you add that person as an additional driver or
25 --
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1 A Yeah.
2 Q So that person was an additional driver?
3 A Yes. Exactly.
4 Q Okay. Was this at the direction of Mr. Epstein
5 or --
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. And Mr. Epstein --
8 A Whatever I do I have to be (inaudible).
9 Q Right. Okay. How long ago was it? Do you
10 remember?
11 A This was I think January of 2005 or February
12 because I had to go back then because it was the rental
13 company they call me because the rental was expiring so I
14 need to go to rent for another month so she rent for another
15 two weeks.
16 Q Okay. Do you remember this girl's name?
17 A I know but I mean I probably have to sit down.
18 There's so many. But I can't keep everything in my head.
19 Q How many girls would you say came over, different
20 girls?
21 A With him (inaudible) easily four or five.
22 Q No, while he was in residence come over and give a
23 massage.
24 A Sometimes as many as 15 but exact because sometime
25 I was away, I was supposed to only bar tend and staff house
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1 and even the chef came to the staff house and we were
2 supposed to be there because, you know, they go to the
3 swimming pool, you know, (inaudible) to go and say, you
4 know, if he call me I would go in but (inaudible) and like
5 that.
6 Q Okay. So they would go out to the pool?
7 A Yeah. Well this is the thing that we used to
8 sneak because once they leave it's like we are behind the
9 scenes and necessarily people, you know.
10 Q Okay. Who was the chef then?
11 A David. David what is his last name? He came from
12 New York with him.
13 Q He flies in with him?
14 A Yes.
15 Q Okay. All right. Okay. When they would come
16 over to do a massage, you say it was twice a day when he was
17 in town. One in the morning, one in the afternoon?
18 A Yes.
19 Q When he would leave the room, would you go
20 upstairs and straighten up?
21 A Yes.
22 Q Did he have his massage table?
23 A Yes. He had several massage tables. We would put
24 them away, we pick up the towels, the small towels, the
25 massage oils and, you know.
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1 Q Okay. Was there anything else that you would have
2 to pick up in the room?
3 A Everything that was on the floor. You know, but
4 what include that while cleaning the room sometimes we used
5 to find items that we were supposed to label where we find
6 them and everything else but when (inaudible) came to town
7 he wanted those items to be returned but sometimes he was
8 getting upset because (inaudible). So it was kind of a
9 catch 22. We used to keep them in the laundry room for a
10 while but nobody claim them.
11 Q When you cleaned the room, was there other things
12 that you would pick up aside from the massage stuff? Was
13 there any like sex toys?
14 A No, sir. They was only in one place. I never
15 find them on the floor.
16 Q Okay. Would you have to pick those things up when
17 he was done?
18 A No, I never saw one on the floor. They were only
19 one place and I never see them out of the --
20 Q Okay. And he, you know, vibrators, massagers?
21 A Well, he had a lot of vibrators for his body.
22 They were laying all over the floor. We pick up those, put
23 them in the recharger and there was procedure to put
24 everything in its place and you know, dry set of towels, and
25 that was a heavy job I have to say because there was a lot
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2 Q The departure from his employment, was that a good
3 thing?
4 A I was burned out, sir. I was burned out because I
5 was hired to have staff and work under a staff and he had me
6 breakfast at 6:30 in the morning. Sometimes he'd call me to
7 fix him a meal at 10:00 p.m. or so and the next day
8 3:00 o'clock early and I'm a married man so my wife was in
9 Miami I was looking for a day job and so that's the thing
10 after six months I was beginning to feel burn out. But I
11 think I served him well, with loyalty, discretion. You know
12 we have to sign a confidential agreement.
13 Q There was an agreement?
14 A Yes, sir. I would say to come here because I know
15 you're the law but we signed that and I don't know if we
16 have any repercussions from talking about this but I know
17 you are the badge so...
18 Q Well, also you're under subpoena so were you
19 contacted by anybody from the house after we spoke or before
20 we spoke?
21 A I called him and I was telling him -- I was very
22 curious and I know what I'm getting into but I was starting
23 to tell him there's some investigation and he told me well
24 you know, what do you know. And I said well, the head of my
25 security department is going to contact you. So I get this
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1 gentleman by the name of Bill Riley (phonetic). He contact
2 me and we spend a good two hours going through the hotel.
3 Q Okay.
4 A And we spoke this morning too but that was my
5 direct link to him. And when I was subpoenaed for today I
6 tried to contact him but he never received it. He was
7 outside by there. Told us not to talk to anybody. This is
8 all the communication I had with him.
9 Q You spoke with Mr. Riley again today?
10 A Yes. Yes. I told him that I was closed and where
11 was the building and that's what I ask him and he said fine,
12 so call me when you're done. That was it.
13 Q What is it that he wants you to know? What is it
14 he wants --
15 A He said he wanted to provide me an attorney and
16 then my wife told me you don't need an attorney.
17 Q Right.
18 A Because you haven't done anything wrong so that's
19 the reason, you know, I never been in this situation before
20 so I (inaudible) because you not hide anything.
21 Q Okay. What is it that Mr. Riley wanted to know
22 from you?
23 A Why I don't want an attorney. I say I don't have
24 nothing to hide, you know, so I'm going to be honest. I
25 didn't -- what I did, you know, I'm a working man. I work
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1 for another old man millionaire in Fort Lauderdale and you
2 can check my background and everything. I don't want to
3 think that my job that I'm doing something that was illegal
4 or something like that.
5 Q Okay. You know you're not compelled to speak with
6 Mr. Riley if he's a private investigator. You don't have to
7 speak to him if you don't want to. You know? And what we
8 discuss here I hope that would stay between us. It's an
9 ongoing investigation. Mr. Riley wants to know what I'm
10 doing, I'll give you my card. He can call me. Okay?
11 A Okay.
12 Q When you spoke with him you said you spoke to him
13 two hours at the hotel. What is it that he wanted to know
14 from you?
15 A Well he took notes on a pad like that and he said
16 how long I was employed. He probably knew what I did over
17 there but he asked me you know some questions like you ask
18 me about people who went there and what was my routine and
19 so he said what do I think and I say I don't know. Then
20 again he didn't ask me for names but, you know, he took a
21 lot of notes.
22 Q Okay.
23 A We spend a good two hours there.
24 Q When you would go upstairs to clean the bedroom
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2 A In front of his bed there's a dresser that he open
3 and he had videos and toys.
4 Q Okay. In your opinion do you feel that there was
5 more than just a massage going on in the room?
6 A We all did. We all did. But it was kept under
7 such tight because he would close his shutter. No lights in
8 his room on the second floor. No natural light. And when
9 he left we opened that and let the whole thing air out but
10 he was always (inaudible) needed to be closed.
11 Q How did you get employed with Mr. Epstein? How
12 did you know about him?
13 A I had two friends. I was born in Bolivia, South
14 America, and I have two friends of mine who were working for
15 the Leon Black in New York and he said looked like he had a
16 couple of Philipinos that they stole from him in the past
17 and so he was looking for a very, you know, people like me
18 he can rely because we used to keep a lot of cash in the
19 house. There were guns. But I was the only one opening and
20 closing the safe because he (inaudible) 10,000 from the safe
21 (inaudible) open. And you know that was another thing but
22 he never lost -- I never lost a penny but I was in charge of
23 anyone going and open the safe (inaudible) and so I was
24 referred by the Leon Black recommendation.
25 Q Okay. Is there any relation to the Black out of
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2 A He owns a company called Apollo. He has a
3 compound (inaudible). That's where he open.
4 Q Okay.
5 A That's how I came on board.
6 Q This Maxwell, is that his --
7 A He's (inaudible) for 14 years but they're not
8 married so sometimes he will have to go to another bedroom
9 (inaudible) another.
10 Q Right.
11 A -- their relationship.
12 Q Like when there was a massage or some girl was
13 over?
14 A Yeah. And she will take a second place and
15 somehow (inaudible) and I have to say that talking from my
16 heart they make a beautiful couple. We try to say happy
17 merry Christmas but they always have (inaudible).
18 Q What, when you said he would become upset when
19 things were moved, what kind of things were moved?
20 A Lingerie. Intimate apparel from the girls.
21 Q Stuff that the girls would leave there?
22 A Yes. Under the bed or you know because we have to
23 clean. We have to turn everything we found. (Inaudible)
24 because the rooms they have colors so the yellow room or the
25 white room, or the (inaudible) room and so (inaudible).
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1 Q So these are like either panties or --
2 A Yes. Exactly.
3 Q -- bras, that type of thing?
4 A Most of the time because they're small.
5 Q But who wanted to hold on to them?
6 A It was in the manual, sir. I don't know.
7 Somebody wrote a manual.
8 Q Who did you turn it in to?
9 A We put it in the laundry room but sometimes they
10 were so busy and they stay there for a week but we mention
11 that we found something but we knew that that was going to
12 upset her so sometimes we don't mention that but they were
13 there. If he ask what do you find, go over there.
14 Q But you would turn it to Ms. Maxwell or --
15 A Ms. Maxwell. No. No. He didn't want to see
16 those things.
17 Q Okay. Was there ever any men masseuses that came
18 to give him massages?
19 A No, sir. No. I never see it. No.
20 Q Okay. Have you -- did Mr. Riley or Mr. Epstein
21 promise you anything or offer you any gifts in exchange not
22 to speak to me?
23 A No, sir. No.
24 Q Have they offered you anything?
25 A No.
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1 Q Okay. All right. And during your six months, you
2 felt approximately 15 girls, how many times would you say
3 you saw them?
4 A (Inaudible) because when I greet them because I
5 was supposed to answer the phone and the door so I saw them.
6 It's mind boggling because there's so many names you have to
7 remember and the rotation so they traveled with him and some
8 they come back. Sometimes, you know, I have to -- he will
9 tell me Alfredo you should go to Worth Avenue. Carry my
10 checkbook and buy them stuff on Worth Avenue for them or I
11 rent a plane for two hours make him happy.
12 Q And they would go on trips?
13 A They would go on trips, yes. He owns an island in
14 St. Thomas. He owns a house in France. The biggest house
15 in Manhattan and in Mexico and Palm Beach.
16 Q Okay. Did any of these girls ever fly with him to
17 New York or anywhere else?
18 A Oh, yes. Yes. All the time.
19 Q Okay. Was it the girl that you rented a car for?
20 A She went to New York I think or the island. But
21 I'm not sure but yeah.
22 Q Okay. Any other girl that you can think of might
23 have gone on trips with him?
24 A Well, all of them did. You know, they can
25 actually -- (inaudible) talk to the chief pilot. He would
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1 Call me from the plane (inaudible) waiting at Jet Aviation
2 (inaudible) there next to (inaudible) so we arrange -- we
3 were going to one Mercedes he would drive himself with three
4 girls and I would (inaudible) because usually I was supposed
5 to follow him if he will go someplace and I would follow
6 with the rest of the girls and the baggage in the other car
7 and sometimes I would help the Jet Aviation guy (inaudible)
8 Palm Beach but I didn't know how many were coming because
9 that was another thing I needed to prepare the meals, have
10 flowers in the house so you never know because sometimes
11 when the chef wouldn't come I need to double chef like
12 butler.
13 Q You were man of many hats.
14 A Exactly. I was the driver, security, and I have
15 to say I went to the Palm Beach Police Department one time
16 because I was by myself and he will give cash gifts to
17 girls. I came back from Publix and I found an old car in
18 the driveway and sometimes we used to keep the gate open
19 because they have the sensor not to bother so we leave it
20 open so I found this car and I was walking inside saying
21 hello, hello. I found this girl, very young, with an older
22 boyfriend (inaudible). And then he got upset why I went to
23 the police department but I went for security because
24 (inaudible) I was supposed to be carrying $2,000 in my
25 pocket to tip taxi drivers, girls and everything else so
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1 they look at me like an ATM machine basically.
2 Q How much would you give them when they would come
3 by for a tip?
4 A 400, 500, 600, a thousand. Sarah would tell me
5 the amount.
6 Q Would Mr. Epstein pay them personally for the
7 massage or would you pay them for the massage?
8 A I will pay them.
9 Q You would pay them?
10 A Yes. Per Sarah.
11 Q Per Sarah?
12 A I didn't have any cash on the weekend so they told
13 me get into the safe and get but that was my petty cash
14 because we were supposed to have all the money (inaudible).
15 Q Okay.
16 A So when he told me that, when he left he said pay
17 this girl and (inaudible) and that's something that upset
18 with me because I went to the police because they were not
19 masseuses. They were something else.
20 Q Okay. Did you feel that they were masseuses?
21 A No. Some they were and some they weren't.
22 Q Okay. Out of the 15 people that you saw during
23 your six months, how many of those would you say were not
24 masseuses?
25 A The majority.
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2 A The majority.
3 Q Did you ever see any money exchange for massages?
4 A No. He will tell me get some money but then I
5 will get out of the house and (inaudible) on the floor with
6 no money.
7 Q Okay. So in essence Mr. Epstein or his assistant
8 would then pay them because you would leave the house,
9 right?
10 A Exactly. That's exactly true.
11 Q Okay. So you were given the cash but he would
12 actually be the one to pay them?
13 A I would pay some of them because he was shopping
14 or doing something and say give this to Susan or 300, 500,
15 600, and so I make envelopes. But my girls at the time I
16 give them the cash and he would never touch the money most
17 of the time.
18 I have to say this, I don't know, I went to high
19 school, sir, taking flowers to the girls. But I feel I have
20 two daughters myself and at that time (inaudible) know what
21 (inaudible) I have a friend who work on Worth Avenue and she
22 says that's where my daughter goes so I took expensive roses
23 but then I realize she was probably very young. And she was
24 in the house.
25 Q And she provided him (inaudible)?
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2 him. Most of the time they (inaudible) next to the master
3 bedroom and they will sometimes I would go and knock on the
4 door and nobody would answer. Then I find two young girls
5 naked in thongs or something like they were on the table. I
6 get out of the house and I tell everybody don't go up there
7 until he left too (inaudible).
8 Q So you've taken flowers. Have you taken anything
9 else to the high school? Which high school was that?
10 A Royal Palm Beach.
11 Q Royal Palm Beach High School?
12 A Yeah.
13 Q Do you remember who the flowers were for?
14 A I do remember but I don't have the name with me
15 right now. It was like end of the year they make like a
16 play.
17 Q Uh-huh.
18 A You know and they were supposed to say this is
19 from Jeffrey and congratulations and leave. You know? But
20 (inaudible) who I am because it's a black Mercedes, this and
21 that, so that was one instance that I feel awkward because I
22 can identify. I have two girls.
23 Q And he knew that this girl was going to Royal Palm
24 Beach High School?
25 A I don't think he did. I don't know that he know
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1 that but I was given that (inaudible) by Sarah to buy some
2 flowers from this place on Clematis (inaudible) flowers, the
3 place to buy the flowers. So I went over there but you
4 know.
5 Q Did you deliver anything else to the school other
6 than the flowers?
7 A No. That was the only time I went there.
8 Q His assistant's name was Sarah obviously. He has
9 another friend slash assistant by the name of Nadia.
10 A Yeah.
11 Q Does that ring a bell to you?
12 A Oh, yeah.
13 Q What is she to him?
14 A (Inaudible) the girlfriend of (inaudible) is
15 different because it's like he will do special things with
16 her, travel only with her, (inaudible) very, very young. So
17 by the time when I finish my employment, that was the
18 girlfriend that took the place of all the others.
19 Q So she would have obviously she would sleep in his
20 room and everything?
21 A Well sometimes she will because we pick up his
22 bathrobe in her --
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1 Q Did you ever see Nadia with any other masseuses?
2 A No, because when the massage was going on
3 everything was on the second floor. I never see them. No.
4 Q Okay. You have this stuff written down in a book?
5 You said a manual?
6 A Yes.
7 Q Okay. Is it possible that you can provide me with
8 that book?
9 A Yes, sir.
10 Q Do you have it with you now or down in Miami?
11 A I have it in my house.
12 Q Okay. I would definitely would like to take a
13 look at that book.
14 A I have to say this.
15 Q This will help me.
16 A I had a hint that (inaudible) about that. I have
17 to say also that these friend of mine that work in
18 (inaudible) is a long-time friend of mine and (inaudible)
19 also I delivered the flowers, he said do not say anything
20 because they can take action against you and I want to put
21 this on the record because, you know, they're so powerful
22 that they can make my job disappear or make something go
23 wrong. So I'm beginning to be on the afraid -- I'm a grown
24 up man but, you know, you are afraid because we are all
25 little people to them and that's (inaudible) so I just want
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2 hope this doesn't come back.
3 Q First of all let me just alleviate your fears, you
4 are not a suspect, I am not looking at to put any charges on
5 you whatsoever. At this point you're just a witness to me
6 and that's why I just wanted to speak to you. Okay? You're
7 not a suspect. You're not in any trouble. Okay?
8 As far as Mrs. Epstein being powerful, he's just a
9 man. He puts on his pants just like you and me. Okay? The
10 fact that his checkbook is a little fatter than ours, that's
11 how it goes but that doesn't mean he's above the law. Okay?
12 And that's the extent of it. He is not a brain surgeon as
13 he's told people. He's a money man and that's it. He takes
14 money and invests money and he makes money doing it. That's
15 it. That's the extent of it. That's the extent of his
16 power. All right? So you shouldn't fear him. That's
17 basically it. He's just a man just like you and me.
18 A Yeah. I hope he doesn't take actions against me
19 because you know I can lose a main -- I have a book, sir,
20 that he used to give to (inaudible) and there are certain
21 people (inaudible). But anyway in this book is the masseuse
22 that he preferred (inaudible) contact these people.
23 Q That is something I would be very interested in.
24 I'm going to give you my card. I left one on your door when
25 I went down there.
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1 A Yes, I saw that. My wife got scared thinking
2 something happened.
3 Q Right. And I tried to explain to your wife and I
4 told her the same thing you're not in any trouble
5 whatsoever. I did want to talk to you.
6 Do you feel that you had to call the investigator?
7 Did they tell you you had to call the investigator?
8 A He told me please call back but you know now that
9 we've spoken I have all these fears that I thought I knew --
10 I didn't know. I wasn't sure exactly of the investigation
11 so I don't think I have to call him back.
12 Q You don't have to call him. You're under no
13 obligation to call him. Okay? You don't have to speak to
14 them. If they come knocking on your door you can just say
15 look, I don't want to speak to you, get off my property and
16 call me if you'd like. Call me and I'll tell him hey, he
17 doesn't want to speak to you. That's it. I don't want you
18 to feel that you have to call him. Obviously what we
19 discussed stays between us. I'd like to take a look at that
20 book. I'd be willing to drive down to Miami, take a look at
21 it and give it right back to you.
22 A I used to keep the receipt from this rental
23 company but you know it's a long time I coul throw it away
24 but I'm pretty sure I have it.
25 Q Right.
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1 A And also my signature on the checks from Lantana
2 Airport, the plane and the store that I went to.
3 Q What other stores did you go to? I mean were they
4 with you when you went to the stores?
5 A Usually he will drive around because he will stay
6 in the car. He's a person that doesn't like to be seen so
7 he will send somebody what does he like then tell Alfredo to
8 buy it for you. (Inaudible.)
9 Q Okay. Did you have to buy them negligees or under
10 garments?
11 A No. Sarah would buy something like that.
12 Q Sarah is the one that would always buy stuff like
13 that? Okay. Jewelry?
14 A No. I (inaudible) something like that.
15 (Inaudible.)
16 Q The girl you bought the flowers for, was it the
17 same girl that you rented the car for?
18 A Yes.
19 Q All right. You have my card. You know what? I'm
20 going to give you my cell phone as well. Okay? It's on
21 24/7. It's on 24 hours a day. You can call me any time you
22 want.
23 MALE SPEAKER: At this time I'll conclude
24 your statement. The time by my watch is, hold on,
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1 (Thereupon, the following interview was had:)
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3 BY MALE SPEAKER:
4 Q What I'd like you to do is raise your right hand.
5 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and
6 nothing but the truth so help you God?
7 A Yes.
8 Q Okay. State your name for the record.
9 A My name is Yolanda Lopez.
10 Q Yolanda, how old are you?
11 A I'm 17.
12 Q Okay. Are you currently in school?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Where are you in school?
15 A Royal Palm Beach High.
16 Q Royal Palm Beach High?
17 A Uh-huh.
18 Q And how are your grades?
19 A Pretty good except for one class.
20 Q Okay. Okay. So you understand what I'm asking
21 you and what we're discussing here, correct?
22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. You're 17 years old right now.
24 A Correct.
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1 some information pertaining to a case that I'm investigating
2 to a gentleman you may know as Jeff or Jeffrey.
3 A Okay.
4 Q Okay? What I'd like you to do in your own words
5 is tell me how you came in contact for the first time with
6 Jeffrey.
7 A Okay. I used to be friends with pretty much
8 (inaudible) with Haley Robinson and very good friends with
9 Jen and Haley came up to me, approached me one day and asked
10 me if I would -- there was a job where I would massage this
11 guy Jeffrey and that's all I would have to do and I would
12 get $200 for giving him a massage.
13 Q Okay.
14 A And I was like sure. There's no strings attached.
15 She said no. I'm like okay, sure. So she called Jeff and I
16 guess the head lady who's like a personal assistant with
17 him.
18 Q Okay.
19 A And she set up an appointment for me and her to go
20 and we went over to his house one day and Haley brought me
21 up to the room, set up a massage table, (inaudible) light,
22 put on a little bit of music, set up the bed for me and just
23 told me to be comfortable and Jeffrey would come upstairs.
24 So I waited in the room, and Jeffrey came up into the room,
25 introduced himself to me, and he went out of the room and
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1 put on a towel and he laid on the bed, he told me to put on
2 this lotion and I gave him a massage. He told me where to
3 massage him. His back and his legs and hamstrings, his
4 lower back, his upper back and right in that area. So I
5 started giving him a massage and then he flipped over and
6 told me to do the front of his legs and his pec area and his
7 upper shoulders. And to do that and he asked me to get a
8 little bit more comfortable. And I asked him what do you
9 mean. He said lift off your shirt, pull down your pants.
10 And I was already wearing like a crop tank top and I'm like
11 no, I'm comfortable. And he was like okay, that's fine.
12 And then he started to move his hands down off the bed and
13 he started to touch me. He (inaudible) my legs and on my
14 butt and then he tried to go underneath my shirt and touch
15 my boob area and I was like I'm not comfortable with that.
16 And he was like oh, come on. I'm like no. I'll finish your
17 massage but that's it. And he would rub his nipples. He
18 would be like like oh, yeah. He started to rub his nipples
19 and then started to jerk off and that was (inaudible).
20 Q Okay. Haley approached you for a massage just so
21 I can get this straight, okay? She called a woman named
22 Sarah?
23 A Right.
24 Q That's the personal assistant to --
25 A Jeffrey.
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1 Q -- Jeffrey. Okay. Haley brought you up to the
2 room?
3 A Yeah.
4 Q She set up the room for you?
5 A Correct.
6 Q Jeff came into the room, introduced himself, went
7 to another room and changed?
8 A Right. Because upstairs is his bedroom.
9 Q Okay.
10 A And he left to go into his bedroom to change.
11 Q Okay.
12 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
13 Q Did he tell you his last name?
14 A No. He would never tell me his last name. He
15 would never tell me what he did for a living. He would
16 never give me personal information except for his name was
17 Jeffrey.
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19 Q Okay. He told you to get comfortable.
20 A Right.
21 Q Okay. What were you wearing?
22 A I was wearing a crop tank top that comes a little
23 bit above my naval and I wore a bra and pair of (inaudible).
24 Q Okay. So you did not remove any clothing?
25 A No.
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1 Q As you were massaging Jeff in the leg area, did he
2 remove his towel?
3 A He started to move the towel lower and lower and
4 then eventually he --
5 Q Had it off. He had taken it off.
6 Okay. At what point had he started to masturbate?
7 A After he started to rub his nipples and I was
8 giving him a massage on his shoulders he started to remove
9 the towel completely and that's when he started to
10 masturbate or do whatever he did.
11 Q Okay. Do you know what the meaning of masturbate
12 is?
13 A Yeah. To ejaculate.
14 Q Okay. Did you see his penis?
15 A Yes.
16 Q Okay.
17 A He made that visible too.
18 Q Okay. At what point did he reach out to try to
19 touch you?
20 A While he before he started to rub his nipples he
21 goes I'm going to touch you the way that I like to be
22 touched and I was like I don't feel comfortable that way.
23 I'm fine. I'll continue to give you a massage. I don't
24 want -- I'm very uncomfortable. Because Haley before she
25 told me if I felt uncomfortable just tell him and he'd back
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1 off. So I told him that I was uncomfortable like after he
2 started touching me and he started ejaculating after that.
3 Q Okay. He touched your buttocks?
4 A Yes.
5 Q Did he touch your vagina area?
6 A I would not let him. No.
7 Q Okay. And you mentioned your breast area.
8 A Right.
9 Q Did he try to touch your buttocks under the shorts
10 or --
11 A At first it was just outside my pants and then he
12 tried to -- I had a belt on with my jeans so he tried to go
13 inside from behind but he could not and I was like I'm not
14 comfortable.
15 Q Okay. He put his hands under your shirt?
16 A Right.
17 Q Okay. And you had a bra on, correct?
18 A Correct.
19 Q Okay. Did he go under the bra or over the bra?
20 A He didn't have enough time. I told him not to do
21 that. I was uncomfortable.
22 Q So you stopped him before he actually touched your
23 breast?
24 A Right.
25 Q Okay. And he started to begin to masturbate at
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2 A Yes.
3 Q Okay. Did he ejaculate?
4 A Yeah. He did. He did everything.
5 Q He finished?
6 A He finished, yeah.
7 Q That was the first time you went?
8 A Yeah.
9 Q How much did you receive?
10 A I received $200.
11 Q Okay. Was that the only time you went?
12 A I've been there a total of three times.
13 Q Okay. What happened the --
14 A The second time I went there with Haley, Vanessa
15 and this girl Jen.
16 Q Uh-huh.
17 A And me and Haley were downstairs. The staff made
18 us dinner or lunch. It was like late afternoon. We sat
19 there and I guess Jen and Jeffrey went upstairs to do
20 whatever they did and we just waited downstairs with the
21 staff and like he had supermodels there and we were talking
22 to them. They showed us around the house, they showed us
23 the car, they showed us the pool area. We were just --
24 Q So you were waiting for Jen?
25 A Right.
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1 Q Did you know if Haley took any money?
2 A Haley received money every time she brings someone
3 there. That I know for a fact. (Inaudible.)
4 Q Okay. Did she receive money for the first time
5 you went?
6 A Yeah.
7 Q The second time you went did you receive any
8 money?
9 A Nothing.
10 Q Did Haley receive money for taking Jen?
11 A Yeah.
12 Q Okay.
13 A I was just there because Jen's my best friend and
14 she felt more comfortable if I was there. She didn't really
15 know Haley and (inaudible) through Vanessa they were.
16 Q Okay. What about the third time?
17 A The third time it was me, Vanessa and Michelle.
18 Q Michelle?
19 A Lacotta.
20 Q Can you spell that?
21 A L-A-C-A or C-O-T-T-A.
22 Q And Haley you said?
23 A Yeah.
24 Q Okay. Tell us what happened then.
25 A Michelle works with -- Haley got Michelle
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2 Michelle went with us and Haley went upstairs again but this
3 time Sarah was with her. Michelle and Haley went upstairs
4 and set the bed up for Michelle and we went downstairs. We
5 were waiting and we were just talking to Sarah. We were
6 talking Haley in the other room (inaudible) and magazines.
7 There was like a whole bunch of nude pictures all over the
8 house.
9 Q Okay. The third time you went you didn't do
10 anything?
11 A No. I only did it once.
12 Q Did you receive any money for recruiting Michelle?
13 A Yeah. I received a hundred dollars.
14 Q You did. You were given a hundred dollars?
15 A Uh-huh.
16 Q Do you have Michelle's phone number?
17 A I don't speak to her anymore. I could get it if
18 you want me to get it for you.
19 Q No, I'll find it.
20 The third time you went you saw Sarah and Haley
21 take Michelle to the room?
22 A Correct.
23 Q Okay. Did Haley come back down?
24 A Yes. Jeffrey doesn't allow anybody else inside
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2 A You and him.
3 Q Okay. And you received a hundred dollars to bring
4 Michelle?
5 A Yeah.
6 Q Okay. Real quick, just want to go over on the
7 second or third time, you never went upstairs?
8 A No.
9 Q You waited downstairs.
10 The first time that you went up there --
11 A Correct.
12 Q -- did he ever touch you?
13 A Yes.
14 Q Aside from --
15 A Oh, no.
16 Q -- what you told me? Did he ever touch your
17 vagina area?
18 A No.
19 Q The breast area aside from what you told me?
20 A No.
21 Q Didn't go under the bra?
22 A No.
23 Q Did he ever pull you in close to him?
24 A Yes. He had done that. He would wrap your arms
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2 Q Okay. Can you describe him a little bit to me?
3 A He was very --
4 MS. SICILIANO: It's hard to describe him.
5 THE WITNESS: Yeah. Very --
6 MS. SICILIANO: I would say he's (inaudible).
7 DETECTIVE DAWSON: Let her --
8 MS. SICILIANO: I've seen him.
9 DETECTIVE DAWSON: I know but we'll get
10 (inaudible).
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12 THE WITNESS: He was -- he's just a fricking
13 pervert. I don't know what the hell he is. He's
14 a weirdo. He has pictures of his family naked,
15 children naked, some others naked, models naked.
16 He always has girls there constantly. He's
17 basically a sugar daddy. My perception is he
18 looks like a sugar daddy. He has gray hair. He
19 works out so he's in good physical condition. He
20 has hair on his chest and his back. He's probably
21 about maybe six foot one. (Inaudible) way sort
22 of. He would never discuss what he does for a
23 living. From Haley and everybody else like my
24 friends who talked to him he said that he's a
25 scientist. He invented things. He's done stocks.
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2 so he keeps to himself after he's done.
3 (Inaudible.) He does whatever he does and then he
4 (inaudible) the money for you.
5 BY MALE SPEAKER:
6 Q Did he have the money out for you prior to or when
7 you were -- when the massage was done?
8 A When the massage was done.
9 Q On your way out?
10 A Right.
11 Q Okay. When he finished, did he use the towel to
12 clean himself or --
13 A He got up in the room there's two showers.
14 There's like a steam room and then there's a shower so as
15 soon as he got -- as soon as he's done he got up and went
16 into the shower/steam room or whatever.
17 Q Do you know the difference between circumcised and
18 not circumcised?
19 A Yes. He was circumcised?
20 Q He is?
21 A Yes.
22 Q What is your definition?
23 A Where the foreskin hasn't been cut off and where
24 covers the actual head of the penis. Where you are
25 circumcised the head is sewn. You don't have to pull back
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2 Q Okay. So he is or he is not?
3 A He is circumcised.
4 Q He is circumcised.
5 At the conclusion of the massage and you went to
6 the other room, you have the money, what happened after
7 that?
8 A I grabbed the money and I left to go with
9 (inaudible). They asked me what's wrong and I was like
10 nothing, let's just go. And I felt like a disgrace. I felt
11 really dirty. I felt bad about myself as a human. I was
12 only 16 years old at the time and I felt like, you know, the
13 whole time I was there I was like I'm really nervous, I
14 repeated that to Haley. She said don't worry, he's not
15 going to do anything, there's no strings attached, so I said
16 let's just get out of here. Let's go. Let's leave. And we
17 left.
18 Q Did he ask for your age?
19 A No.
20 Q No.
21 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON:
22 Q When was this? Do you remember?
23 A It was like probably around September/November
24 because my boyfriend (inaudible).
25 MALE SPEAKER: Okay.
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2 Q (Inaudible)?
3 A Oh, yeah.
4 BY MALE SPEAKER:
5 Q Did Haley ever explain to you on your way over
6 there what was expected from you?
7 A No. Never told me. She said that all I had to do
8 was just give a massage. I didn't have to do anything. No
9 strings attached. That's all I had to do and I would
10 receive $200 for giving give him a massage.
11 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to get
12 naked?
13 A No.
14 Q Did she explain to you that you might have to
15 remove some clothing?
16 A She told me he would ask me to get comfortable.
17 That's it.
18 Q Okay. And what did you think she meant when she
19 said comfortable?
20 A I did think, you know, I would have to remove
21 articles of clothing but to feel comfortable with him with
22 have a conversation with him, keep talking to him so I
23 wouldn't be so nervous, and he'd get to know me and like me
24 because if he doesn't like you he doesn't pay you.
25 Q Okay. Did you ever use any sex toys? Did he have
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2 A No.
3 Q Have you had any contact with Sarah, Haley, or
4 anyone from the house?
5 A No. I don't talk to Haley. Me and Haley don't
6 like each other.
7 MS. SICILIANO: (Inaudible.)
8 THE WITNESS: I only talk to them like
9 whenever I see her out and about like downtown I
10 say what's up. That's it. But I never -- I've
11 only met Sarah once. I've never actually had a
12 full-blown conversation with Sarah. I only know
13 about Sarah and what she does. How she lives
14 there and how she's the personal assistant for him
15 and how she gets to call Haley or whoever else is
16 like the main girl to get girls.
17 BY MALE SPEAKER:
18 Q Okay. Everything you've told me has been true and
19 correct to the best of your knowledge?
20 A Correct.
21 Q Just for the record, in the room we're located at
22 108 Gibraltar (phonetic) Street, Royal Palm Beach. Present
23 in the room is myself ID number 7915 Detective (inaudible)
24 with the Palm Beach Police Department Detective Michael
25 Dawson, Palm Beach Police Department, Yolanda Lopez and
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2 For the record, Jennifer, can you spell your last
3 name?
4 MS. SICILIANO: S-I-C-I-L-I-A-N-O.
5 BY MALE SPEAKER:
6 Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to
7 add to this?
8 THE WITNESS: That's it.
9 MALE SPEAKER: Okay. At this time I'm going
10 to go ahead and conclude this tape. The time by
11 my watch is 2:35.
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Taped Interview Esposito, Felicia.txt 15 KB
Taped Interview Figueroa, Serina.txt 11 KB
Taped Interview Murphy, Lauren.txt 14 KB
Taped Interview Pentek, Faith.txt 13 KB
Taped Interview Robson, Haley.txt 15 KB
Taped Interview Rodriguez, Alfredo.txt 34 KB
Taped Inteview Lopez, Yolanda.txt 19 KB