Re: CZM Meeting
I'm ok with following theier advice,, document why we
are modifying... r/o intake... talk to miles on
Monday,,I know nothing about it. fine on inspection
--- John Amerling jamerling@rrcaribbean.com wrote:
I SHOULD ADD A POSTCRIPT. IN MY MEETING WITH HODGE
HE WELCOMED THE PROSPECT
OF SELF INSPECTION OF CONSTRUCITON WORK. THE
PRACTICE IS MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT
IT WILL AVOID A LOT OF DELAY.Here is a summary of what happened today in meeting
with Mr. Oriel and Ms
Peterson;
- I showed them portions of our study of our report
concerning
existing conditions and future plans.- Ms Peterson suggested that:
a. we take the full buildout drawing, FB 1, and
flesh it out with
phase designations and a brief narrative and submit
it covered by a Minor
Application form;
b. the agency would accept this and then use it as a
baseline document
in connection with future reviews of all
applications
- They suggested that both the office and the pool
related expansions
be submitted as a modification to Permit#CZT-53-04L:
a. The modification would seek approval of both the
office and the pool
expansions
b. The modification would mention infrastructure
improvements which we
want to cover, such as trenching for utilities and
placement of pads and
structures to house the R/O expansion
c. The modification would mention the request to add
water to the salt
pond on the grounds that this was a land side, not a
marine issue
d. The cover letter would say that the current minor
application for
the office is being withdrawn; they swore up and
down that the would review
the modification right away and not set the whole
process back.
- Mr. Oriel continued to advocate using the base
permit for the dock
as the fulcrum for dealing with any changes we
needed to the barging areas,
stone in the area of the urchins, floating dock and
so on; he mentioned the
need to ask for a waiver of time or "temporary
removal" of these items from
the Corps stuff if this were to occur; I was
non-committal.- On the issue of dock lights we took out the
approved dock plans
which do have electrical details; since electrical
work of one sort or
another has already been approved, the agency would
be satisfied if we
simply sent a letter saying that we are modifying
those details to the
extent that we are putting in an emergency light
system, probably the
existing letter would suffice.- It appears that once this is done we could and
would come in with a
series of minor permit applications for the main
house, library and so on.- I also took the time to meet with Douglas Hodge
to go over the
building permit application process which we are
initiating for the various
buildings, which, as you know, will be on a separate
track; he is primed and
I want to get the office and pool documents into his
hands asap.- We did spend some time on the R/O in take issue:
a. When we were on the island yesterday, Mr. Oriel
mentioned that at
one time a new R/O intake line was requested on the
south east side of the
island;
b. Apparently that request was dropped and a line
running out or under
the dock was substituted;
c. What is the scope of the current request?
d. The current master plan does not contemplate a
new intake line; a
new well is contemplated; I would prefer figuring
out a well strategy and
getting away from intake approvals because we get
away from a lot of
bureaucracy in doing so.
- There is something in me that makes me nervous
about withdrawing the
office permit, but I have the impression that the
people we are dealing with
are being honest and they will complete reviews
promptly.- I am going to get some work done on the master
plan document and I
am going to target filing it next week; I should
like input from you both
about the content of this message.
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In 4 I don't understand the temporary removal..issue..
what was the attitude???
--- John Amerling jamerling@rrcaribbean.com wrote:
I SHOULD ADD A POSTCRIPT. IN MY MEETING WITH HODGE
HE WELCOMED THE PROSPECT
OF SELF INSPECTION OF CONSTRUCITON WORK. THE
PRACTICE IS MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT
IT WILL AVOID A LOT OF DELAY.Here is a summary of what happened today in meeting
with Mr. Oriel and Ms
Peterson;
- I showed them portions of our study of our report
concerning
existing conditions and future plans.- Ms Peterson suggested that:
a. we take the full buildout drawing, FB 1, and
flesh it out with
phase designations and a brief narrative and submit
it covered by a Minor
Application form;
b. the agency would accept this and then use it as a
baseline document
in connection with future reviews of all
applications
- They suggested that both the office and the pool
related expansions
be submitted as a modification to Permit#CZT-53-04L:
a. The modification would seek approval of both the
office and the pool
expansions
b. The modification would mention infrastructure
improvements which we
want to cover, such as trenching for utilities and
placement of pads and
structures to house the R/O expansion
c. The modification would mention the request to add
water to the salt
pond on the grounds that this was a land side, not a
marine issue
d. The cover letter would say that the current minor
application for
the office is being withdrawn; they swore up and
down that the would review
the modification right away and not set the whole
process back.
- Mr. Oriel continued to advocate using the base
permit for the dock
as the fulcrum for dealing with any changes we
needed to the barging areas,
stone in the area of the urchins, floating dock and
so on; he mentioned the
need to ask for a waiver of time or "temporary
removal" of these items from
the Corps stuff if this were to occur; I was
non-committal.- On the issue of dock lights we took out the
approved dock plans
which do have electrical details; since electrical
work of one sort or
another has already been approved, the agency would
be satisfied if we
simply sent a letter saying that we are modifying
those details to the
extent that we are putting in an emergency light
system, probably the
existing letter would suffice.- It appears that once this is done we could and
would come in with a
series of minor permit applications for the main
house, library and so on.- I also took the time to meet with Douglas Hodge
to go over the
building permit application process which we are
initiating for the various
buildings, which, as you know, will be on a separate
track; he is primed and
I want to get the office and pool documents into his
hands asap.- We did spend some time on the R/O in take issue:
a. When we were on the island yesterday, Mr. Oriel
mentioned that at
one time a new R/O intake line was requested on the
south east side of the
island;
b. Apparently that request was dropped and a line
running out or under
the dock was substituted;
c. What is the scope of the current request?
d. The current master plan does not contemplate a
new intake line; a
new well is contemplated; I would prefer figuring
out a well strategy and
getting away from intake approvals because we get
away from a lot of
bureaucracy in doing so.
- There is something in me that makes me nervous
about withdrawing the
office permit, but I have the impression that the
people we are dealing with
are being honest and they will complete reviews
promptly.- I am going to get some work done on the master
plan document and I
am going to target filing it next week; I should
like input from you both
about the content of this message.
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