Re: Sensory Apparatus / Language
Dear Don
Would you say that the sensory apparatus and brain - eyes ears other senses are species specific icons (symbols) for modes of knowing and experience - seeing hearing thinking feeling imagining etc. Also it seems to me that humans by giving names to modes of knowing and experience (perception) have created the universe as a human construct. Everything from a quark to a boson to a galaxy is a name or description bestowed by humans to a mode of knowing or experience in awareness. This holds true for what we call a body mind genes other animals and species.
Taxonomy is symbol making for knowing and experience. Do we know anything about the origin of symbolic language including mathematics?
What does evolution say? The entire universe is our construct - a species of consciousness - what you call a conscious agent.
Love,
Deepak Chopra MD
Dear Deepak,
Yes, I would say that the sensory appar=tus and brain are species-specific icons. My entire body is just an icon. =hen I move my hand and grab something, even that movement is just an icon.=l don't know what I am really doing in objective reality—I only know my ow= actions under the limits of the descriptions available within my int=rface. Genes, animals, species, and even spacetime itself are just icons.
The evolutionary arguments against true=C24terceptions do not hold against true logic and math, since we do=need to reason about fitness payoffs—two bites of an apple gi=e roughly twice the payoff as one bite, for instance. There are no selection pressures to be geniuses at math and =ogic, and few of us are. But we need to have enough competence to get the =ayoffs we need.
I wouldn't say that t=e spacetime universe is itself a conscious agent, but that it is the =ormat of the interface of human conscious agents.
I am working on a mathematical theory=C24,of how conscious agents evolve languages to better understand ea=h other. It seems that they can get more information about each other with=ut violating the second law of thermodynamics, if they hillclimb mutual information. Fun research=ahead on this one!
Love,
Don
Agree
Thanks
However the space time universe is a human construct - linguistically =peaking - language used by humans to describe knowing and experience / per=eptions in awareness ?
Deepak Chopra MD
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Yes, I agree that the spacetime universe is a human construct. It is n=t the fundamental reality. Physicists are now recognizing this. They say, =E24N,Spacetime is doomed," meaning it is not the fundamental re=lity that they had hoped it would be. They don't know what is the fundamental reality, and are searching for it. But they d=n't want to take seriously the idea that consciousness might be th= fundamental reality. I saw this first hand when I participated in the FQX= conference in Banff last summer, where physicists and cosmologists met to grapple with the fundamental nature of =eality. Chalmers was there too, and spoke about consciousness.
Thanks Donald !
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you are the same as a liver cell . a com=lex system aware of its surrounding and takes actions in response to=its enviromnet and internal state. after taking measurements. =C24k . the liver cell is aware. it might al=o fool itself into thinking it is conscious. . . ssee yo= soon