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Re: Hello--CONFIDENTIAL

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A H Aug 22, 2018 1:23 PM
To
Lawrence Krauss

Thanks for forwarding me the content=of the investigative report by ASU related to me and my participation, alo=g with Johnny, at Origins events. I am attaching what you sen= to me so that I may comment on it.: "Four Wi=nesses reported during the investigation that Respondent once made a comme=t in the presence of employees about the physical characteristics of Amber=Heard, an actress and female visitor at Origins Project event. Specificall=, during the Johnny Depp event on February 16, 2016, that Respondent, whil= getting everyone together to take a picture with Johnny Depp, said, =80 get your hot ass over here" when attempting to get Amber to j=in the picture. During this same event, two witnesses allege that Responde=t told Heard, "Your ass looks great." Employees also indic=te that he talked about how "hot she was". When asked if he ever commented on a female's =uttocks in front of employees, Respondent stated, "Whoa, not that =...l can't imagine doing that". Respondent stated, =E2 Generally, I would say that is not a good idea" but added =hat if someone asked his opinion about someone, he might respond. When ask=d if he ever made comments about Amber Heard's body, Respondent st=ted, "No. Amber Heard is an incredibly attractive woman, and every=ody understands that and everybody said it, and she is". Respondent =tated that he did not remember telling Heard that her "ass =9D looked good. He stated, "I don't remember saying it, bu= it's the kind of thing that a close friend would say to a close f=iend in the context of [asking for wardrobe advice], but I certainly don=E2 t remember it, but we were very, very close." Respondent s=ated that making such comments in the workplace would be outside of normal=conduct for him, but "if it would've happened, it would ha=e not been at the Origins offices. It would have been in the middle of an =vent when we were celebrating". Factual Determination: Four witnesses =eard Respondent make the statement. Although Respondent stated he did not =emember saying this, he did acknowledge that it is the kind of thing that = close friend would say. It is more likely than not that Respondent made t=e statements. "

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Lawrence Krauss Aug 22, 2018 1:54 PM
To
jeffrey E.

This is highly confidential of course, but it is good n=ws, and I will use it in the appeal doc, which I am HEAVILY revising today= I am also going to send you another support letter that is quite im=ortant in a minute.

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jeffrey E. Aug 22, 2018 2:13 PM
To
Lawrence Krauss

is there any -precedent in an appeal letter=to add letters of support? i think it is a legal appeal =ot an appeal to ones emotions . it is legal grounds or n=t. you can attack the credibility of witnesses but you h=ve been found to be not credible. and with a multi year behavi=r issue however did you break a rule??? =AO I dont think you should suggest a compromise in an appeal letter. =. you can make refernce to not wanting a long drawn out court battle. =AO a bit threatening, but not play your hand

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jeffrey E. Aug 22, 2018 2:30 PM
To
Lawrence Krauss

i t=ink the concilation commitee makes the decision. if you =an reopen then isnt it better to keep amber heard to yourself =ncase you lose than you can say new info?

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jeffrey E. Aug 22, 2018 2:35 PM
To
Lawrence Krauss

i thought the president can=only send you to conciliation , then you get to appeal again if that=doesnt work. . it is the concilation where a accom=dation for your disablity or severance can be made . I t=ought the appeal letter was technical. id like to appeal and h=re s why

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Lawrence Krauss Aug 22, 2018 5:15 PM
To
jeffrey E.

I agree with you regarding c=mpromise. This is an appeal letter to the president. It is to explai= to him with the proposed disciplinary action is not warranted. Lett=rs that were not solicited by the OEI but should have been seem fair game =n this regard.

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Lawrence Krauss Aug 22, 2018 5:24 PM
To
jeffrey E.

This is the only chance I get to have the president review this case..=C2 He needs to see that a large part of the substance of it is incorrec=. . Moreover, since complainants are allowed to have the case reopened as =any times as they wish after a determination is made if they claim to have=new evidence or disagree with its findings, a refusal to consider this evi=ence as part of my appeal is further grounds for discrimination.

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Lawrence Krauss Aug 22, 2018 5:31 PM
To
jeffrey E.

will think o= this.. I don't want to have to go to the next level if I ca= help it. financially and otherwise.

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Lawrence Krauss Aug 22, 2018 6:01 PM
To
jeffrey E.

The President will read the appeal letter, as far as I know, and can send to conciliation, who =ill read the appeal letter too I believe.. But I believe the President cou=d act on the appeal directly too.

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jeffrey E. Aug 22, 2018 11:08 PM
To
Lawrence Krauss

i think you might add that =C2 I implore you to test the credibility of the witnesses a=ainst me. of course I will be asking the conciliation commitee=to do the same . If need be I hope and assum= that should it become necessary to have a hearing that you will allow me =o take the depositoins of the follwing five people . aus=ralia lady . video lady . two former origns lady , and .=. / this will send amessage that you a=e not going awy

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