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jeffrey E. Jul 31, 2015 12:59 PM
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Noam Chomsky

I hope you have fun at the institute. I =m in santa fe. . you and i have discussed vi=ion and edges etc rigidity etc. auto focus on a ca=era looks for the most contrast . is there an equivalent . first step to intuit whether = sentence is legitimate ?

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Noam Chomsky Jul 31, 2015 1:21 PM

Marr's group, as you know, st=died edges, rigidity, etc. Those particular phenomena don't =eem relevant to language, except indirectly (as Marr and I in fact discussed often): th=re must be built-in systems that enter into language processing (including=determining grammatical status -- "legitimacy" =80 one property among many). That's what work on UG shoul= be about.

Noam

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jeffrey E. Jul 31, 2015 1:33 PM
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Noam Chomsky

what i have been calling my sense making module. .=C2 visual sense, is the image coherent. / ? =A0 why dont you ask your young friends what they think the cho=sky questions should be. I will provide the reward

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Noam Chomsky Jul 31, 2015 6:58 PM

There is a notion of coherence in bot= cases, but how to unify them, or whether it's possible, I don =80 t really see.

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Noam Chomsky Aug 1, 2015 12:54 AM

There is a view that language is esse=tially a processing system. The arguments against it seem to me very=power. I'll attach a recent paper about it, a contribu=ion to a volume of essays dedicated to Jerry Fodor and focusing on his concept=on of language as processing (input modules). His version is f=r more sophisticated than the signal processing approaches that were all t=e rage in the 1950s, drawing from the successes of wartime technology in signal analysis and Shannon's information=theory.

Noam

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jeffrey E. Aug 1, 2015 7:34 AM
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Noam Chomsky

can it be thought of as no more than signal processi=g. why not use the same technology that attempts to intercept commun=cations and decode the signals and apply it to language. =C2 normally one tries to process the signals. i wonder if they put it in reverse. and processed the language in an attempt =o find coherence.???

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jeffrey E. Aug 1, 2015 1:18 PM
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Noam Chomsky

" processing" -my use of sloppy language =AO, sorry, thanks for the great paper. =AO music and its" understanding" , might be a closer=representation to expressing a formalism that might help describe the even=s. it is not an either , or , it is a superpositio= of melody, prosody, harmony, within certain bounds that differentiate it =rom noise.

fyi, in the paper it says th= vision system is only input, .not sure that is corrrect. read=ng the eyes might have more to it than previously thought.

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