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jeffrey E. Sep 28, 2015 10:47 AM

in your ergo maps the arrows are one way, = does that take into account the feedback loop. or are you som=how embedding that function in the one way arrow?

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Misha Gromov Sep 30, 2015 3:38 PM

Many other "arrows" to come

The model is still far from the "ergo-reality"

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Misha Gromov Sep 30, 2015 8:18 PM

I try to represent mobjects as combinatorial extracts from incomin= signals partly by removing and partly by keeping track of redundancies

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Misha Gromov Sep 30, 2015 9:26 PM

I do not know the answer, but i think that the structure of the process =f removingredudences is about a half of what we learn

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jeffrey E. Sep 30, 2015 9:35 PM

i see mappings of the external signals into MOBJECTS=It; . mental objects. the objects are =ultidimensional. a mobject could consist of a sound patt=ern visual pattern smell ... location. and emotional variable=2E ). mobjects consist of cohenrent maps . (=a sense maker shape ). images for example are compared to our lands=ape and if they fall within some sort of distance , they are conside=ed part of the " reality set ". people who have extraordinar= ability can map mobjects onto real world are called artists. some m=p the mobject to images some to sounds.

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Misha Gromov Sep 30, 2015 10:07 PM

I am thinking not in terms of the brain but in terms of "operators= bulding meaning out of noisy signals.

Does Chomsky come to your place this weekend?

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jeffrey E. Oct 1, 2015 12:39 AM

sense , signal from noise. . focus, = lens, temporal component . electro chemical transmission .&nb=p; query, how does the vision system take electromagnet=c radiation, sensitivity to a very narrow band, . focus it,&nb=p; store? remember what is rigid etc. . then decide yes =his is a coherent image.

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jeffrey E. Oct 1, 2015 1:52 AM

culling yes . the unused not the redundant.&nb=p; biology is degenerate/ if train tracks are like=neurons. the brain sends tracks out in all directions the ones=that do not get used die. is that your redundant.

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Misha Gromov Oct 1, 2015 10:14 AM

this like throwing stones: who is the boss, gravity or inertia?

If we meet with Chomsly, which moment?

Somebody to meet me on weekend and I have to say when

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jeffrey E. Oct 1, 2015 10:22 AM

good , but those operators do not come blank. &=bsp; they are aware of gravity. they search for mother and nutrition=2E the system comes booted. heart rate. , blood pressure breat=ing. .

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jeffrey E. Oct 1, 2015 2:17 PM

im waiting for his response. the b=ss is pre progammed whoever they are, not a blank =late

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Misha Gromov Oct 1, 2015 2:26 PM
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jeffrey E.

i meant how you write an equation,

whet is the right-hand and what is left-hand side

for me inertia on the left and gravity on the right

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