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Re: Einstein on Science

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jeffrey E. Jul 13, 2016 5:40 AM

there are different levels as well as different languages of "description" and my guess is each like a genome is personal. that doesn't mean we can't agree on some levels. yes it's red, yes it weighs 10 pounds. yes there are balls in both basketball soccer and baseball.

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jeffrey E. Jul 13, 2016 5:59 AM

If you look at the you tube of steven j and sheldrake, gould points out that a carrot is as highly developed as a cow. so eating meat or carrots is the same :) how about trying to find points with science on which you can both agree. penicillin. cured syphilis. not herbs, meditation, energy work, etc. the person who discovered it was no more or less conscious than his neighbor. but it took scientific methods to develop and save so many lives. syphilis was around for thousands of years, surrounded by conscious beings. conscious without the language of science is also conscious, but not as useful for certain things.

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jeffrey E. Jul 13, 2016 6:22 AM
To
Deepak Chopra

instead i suggest " science cannot YET explain," . otherwise too much of a declaration

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jeffrey E. Jul 13, 2016 6:58 AM
To
Deepak Chopra

either ,or ,type questions are much too western. it is a leftover from school. can we separate the thing from its interactions or its environment. yes in language but not in reality

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jeffrey E. Jul 13, 2016 7:21 AM
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Deepak Chopra

with your remarkable ability to raise an audience. how can you best benefit them and yourself. lectures ok. ? week retreats ok, books ok. if you look at the new pokemon go ap. the first of many augmented reality games. I think an app for you that allows people to look at their phone and detect an aura about each other , would kill the market. after you return tonight look up the app and imagine . wow

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Deepak Chopra Jul 13, 2016 8:30 AM

It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. Albert Einstein

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Deepak Chopra Jul 13, 2016 8:51 AM

Yes sir! You said it when we first met Science is one language in consciousness There are other languages consciousness uses - art music poetry love delight pleasure joy and of course suffering as well Consciousness is life ♥♥

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Deepak Chopra Jul 13, 2016 9:18 AM
To
jeffrey E.

I will look up the video and I agree with every point you make
But we agree - I think- that scientism is misleading and can be dangerous.
Science cannot explain experience including the experience of doing science
Science cannot explain consciousness
Science is an activity in consciousness
Theories are conceived in consciousness
Experiments are designed in consciousness
Observations are made in consciousness
Consciousness is the ontological primitive not matter
Matter is the experience of sensations and sense perceptions in consciousness .
It does not exist as such !

Consciousness must be included in expanded science even though there is no equation for it

I'm off to lecture
Wishing you a joyful day
❤

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Deepak Chopra Jul 13, 2016 9:35 AM
To
jeffrey E.

Promissory note ?
If there is an ontological primitive what is it
Consciousness
Or
Matter - an experience in consciousness
That's the fundamental question re fundamental reality

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Deepak Chopra Jul 13, 2016 10:08 AM
To
jeffrey E.

Last part makes sense But we need to know - What is fundamental reality

Whatever we end up calling it There is no such thing as a thing There is an activity in a unified wholeness - whatever that is
Things are snapshots of perception (which we don't understand )

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Deepak Chopra Jul 13, 2016 10:27 AM
To
jeffrey E.

Don't see any attachment Please resend ! Will send you what I'm doing with VR !

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jeffrey E. Jul 13, 2016 2:30 PM
To
Deepak Chopra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pgX60AAIYo

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Deepak Chopra wrote:

Don't see any attachment Please resend ! Will send you what I'm doing with VR !

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