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Jeffrey E. Aug 7, 2016 3:22 AM

david, if you can do the name to photo test. in a 25 picture test. it could be an interesting begining, I suggst you take twenty women all availbel on google or facebook and try.

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Gino Yu Aug 7, 2016 8:36 AM

It would also be interesting to see what would happen if we had david reading Paul reading David.

What they do appears to be physiological and consistent with the embodied knowing vs. conceptual knowing (thought can presence) and not being able to do both at the same time (eye contact). Jay gunkelman also has a theory.

Lots of interesting experiments possible when you have many readers and an underlying theoretical basis.

Gino

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jeffrey E. Aug 7, 2016 8:40 AM

why dont we just put david to his own claim. 25 photos. 25 names. randomize and see how he does. without that first test I have no further interest.

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Gino Yu Aug 7, 2016 1:20 PM
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Happy to oblige. Your wish is my command.

As I mentioned, we have a theoretical foundation which may help in the experimental design.

Ideally, the 25 photos and names should come from one source with a person who has a relationship with the people. David's understanding of the people when he reads them would be tracing the relationship between the asking person and the person asked. I would think that the link was emotionally based (otherwise why are they asking something) which, by my framework, is a binding between a symbol and physiological processes from some experience in space and time. The stronger the symbolic meaning (emotional attachment), the greater the connection. The pictures should be within a period (recent) perhaps? The result would also give insight into how language works (also binding of symbol to somatic). Any other thoughts?

As he's read one of your girls (Karyna?), perhaps we could task her to get 25 pictures of her friends and people that she knows.

What do you think? Maybe we can have Paul try as well?

Whatever the costs to set up, you can take it out of the 100K (just leave 60K for the conference events that I'd like to run). I'm also happy to fly out to NYC to witness the experiment.

gino

PS. Incidentally, I forgot to tell you that I am hosting TSC next year in Shanghai (http://www.consciousness.arizona.edu) and worked with a mainland group to acquire the conference. Would like to bring Stuart Hameroff to see you (if you haven't seen him before) http://www.quantumconsciousness.org. With him, I can get Sir Roger Penrose as well if you want to go all in on quantum.

PPS. With another budget allocation, I am happy to work with you on interesting questions and bringing the best people together to discuss them (the budget would cover travel and accommodations). Happy to serve as your science pimp. After spending the day with you, I value your approach and insights as much as your funding. http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/06/488861223/cockroach-milk-yes-you-read-that-right. I feel that a lot of great things could come from our collaboration.

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