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█████████ Aug 11, 2016 12:00 AM

Thinking about it. Keep realizing tha= I'm not Hilbert, and linguistics isn't 20th century math. T=e exciting problems I can think of are either too far from current underst=nding, or too theory-internal for the general significance to be easily pe=ceived.

Meanwhile, ran across a nice definition of "powe=," thinking about an earlier letter that you may have forgotten. =AO From Hans Morgenthau: Power in the international context is "that =ntamed and barbaric force which finds its laws in nothing but its own stre=gth and its sole justifi cation in its own aggrandizement."

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█████████ Aug 11, 2016 12:00 AM

Great term. C=n I plagiarize it?

I guess one could say that a lion and a ga=elle have competing powers, but it somehow seems
misleading. All liv=ng systems? How about ██████ and I furnishing our apartment togethe= (I became an expert on
rugs)? Or █████ and I writing a book togeth=r?

Interestingly, I finished off the brisket and pretty much =he corned beef but am saving the pastrami. Great mustard and bread t=o. The only problem is that the dog goes berserk unless I give her I=ttle pieces. Must have Jewish genes.

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█████████ Aug 11, 2016 12:00 AM

Every act is is power in some small way. But the sen=e relevant to those who write about power -- Morgenthau, Russell, etc. -- =s coercive power. Like my telling my dog right now that I can't =lay with her.

How about putting an animal with a human auditor= and visual system in the same room as a human infant -- a chimp for examp=e. And see if it can learn speech or sign the way the infant does.=C2 Acquisition of speech and sign are remarkably similar. And we =now that even with huge training efforts, which the infant doesn't nee= at all, results for the chimp will be zero. But interestingly, the =acts as usual have no interest to the data-processing usage-based enthusia=ts.

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jeffrey E. Aug 11, 2016 8:50 AM

five questions in language. the challenge.=C2 . 50k in prizes. ?

use the inter=et to reach the brightest minds ? why not? <=iv>

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jeffrey E. Aug 11, 2016 8:48 PM

even if far it could act as a North Star . , power has many propertie= those might me some . Is the ability to care for many Power?=C2 Is the ability to find new medicines power .

How about a challenge that says put a thing in a room and see if can lea=n a

language .?

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jeffrey E. Aug 11, 2016 9:53 PM

enthusiasts

I will now credit you with the deriv=tion. Do a new term. - Dubes Data usage base=

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jeffrey E. Aug 12, 2016 12:14 AM

You had the power to move the furnitur= she had the power to tell you when and where :)

It'=s your term as I see it █████████ vs the dubes

Living systems need energy hence they FEED . Plants vegetabl=s all try to protect themselves . Skin poisons , etc. I believ= the best benefit to cost ratio relies on Deception And to kno= the mind of the predator or prey, language is the tool . It allows=a shared understanding of mental objects , mental states and mental action= . patient 81116 pos ng.pdf

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█████████ Aug 12, 2016 7:10 AM

Sexist. How do you know that she didn't move the furnit=re while I told her when and where.

Hobbes vs. Adam Smith. =AO Hobbes: life is a war. Smith: the fundamental human motive is sym=athy (including his term "invisible hand," invariably misunderst=od.

Reminds me of a quip of Quine's about origin of langu=ge: it was invented so that we wouldn't just hit each other.

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jeffrey E. Aug 12, 2016 1:25 PM
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I concede sexism. and she doe= open the door for you. so i stand corrected :)

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trying to guess the mind state of another is i belie=e part of cognitive development. sympathy makes it sound sweet. =AO unless you mean manipulation and exploitation of the weaker also =ualifes as "sympathy " I think that this desire to know th= state. gets carried away and people see mindstates in inanimate obj=cts . or pets. even a blind or deaf person attempts to h=ve a shared understanding to either protect themselves or FEED.

=div> I spoke yesterday to . who said you shared an inter=iew with him and Seed magazine. ( i was the money behind , it =ailed )

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