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Hugs= Deepak:
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There are millions o= people, IN THE MAINSTREAM, who buy, for example, Greg Braden's books abou= cyclical universes. If they feel, accurately, that the universe is =n an irreversibly downward spiral, I don't think they'll be calmed or comforted by a concept claiming what your title claim=.
Can you find some wa= to say what you must while adding to it?
Much=love,
Suza=ne
"I" is not person a The is no such thing as a person. You are never the same person as a child infant teen ager older man/woman
"I" is the awareness in which the so called person arises and subsides as an intermittent stream of sensations images feelings and thoughts. These in turn arise in "I" are known in "I" and are made out of "I"."I" is infinite being (formless') having a finite experience as form. The form is an illusion as it is phenomena - an activity of the formless. All forms are phenomena. All phenomena arise and subside in every moment of now. The formless is the only reality. It is timeless being. You cannot hold on to a time bound phenomenon. It is not a "thing". Even the "you" that you call "I" is a time bound phenomenon.
Nothing to hold on to and no one doing the holding on = Freedom in Being = Yoga
Deepak Chopra
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Carlsbad, CA 92013
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This - below - appears to be so to this "I." Does any of 'this' make sense to any of 'you'?
Without both hydrogen and oxygen there would be no water--which makes transient life possible.
The zen chant we all know, form is formlessness, formlessness is form, can be experienced by humanity as whole.
Without formlessness form would not transform in space over time. Without form formlessness would be nothing at all.
These two ingredients constantly mixing together, perpetuate their characteristics. Formlessness uniting all as one, while forms attempt to perfect their capacity to be like formlessness-- indivisible, immortal, all knowing consciousness.
With your 1st 5 lines. I have problems with the rest of what you say here. I find it existentially despairing.
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- From: Sperry Andrews (partially redacted)
- Sent: Thu, Oct 6, 2016 2:36 pm
- Subject: Re: thought
- Signature visible: "Love, Suzanne"
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- contemplating math symbolically,
- when we divide 1 by an infinitely large number
we most closely approximate 0. - 1/infinity = 0,
- This "I" experiences being a singular unity that is continuously being divided by
infinite variations on a theme, - re-creating what "I" AM BEing as an awakeness that is receiving and reflecting
- some sense of all that ever was, is and will be, as no body going nowhere,
- unborn, deathless, immeasurable, indivisible, timeless consciousness.
Deepak, Sperry, This is PERFECT. Love, Suzanne
What makes mutual understanding "perfect"? I find, the challenge here on this list, and in life, appears precarious at times. Well, yes. Humans are not always stable, get easily frightened.
When we are, consciously aware of our non-verbal sensory/emotional experience - which reliably allows our verbal-analytic minds to integrate their abstract concepts with what is intimately being sensed and felt - we seem to agree. Yes, but (1) you describe an ideal ego-free state. (2) It seems to be this is not yet 1 goal for the whole group so we don't benefit from task unification as we did before the list mergings. Their makes it harder but also better. Otherwise, we go round and around in circles - as if caught up in a dictionary of terms with different meanings for each of us - often times becoming strident about what we wish to share more intelligently via mutual understanding. (3) That's the different, opposing agendas. I for one would love to see us aspire to paradigm change. In the absence of sharing non-verbally - in a fully embodied way - as one single Self/Self aware consciousness, we learn from suffering - to un-learn these habits. I can see practice achieving that with basic criteria met first. Sperry, you are an able mediator. Love Suzanne
I cannot in all honesty
I believe that the universe we experience is totally a human construct
Deepak Chopra
2013 Costa Del Mar Road
Carlsbad, CA 92013
New Book: Radicalbeauty.com
Every universe of every being is their own construct. Those with similar DNA agree most on the construct. The universe of a bacterium in a dish is much different than ours, which is close to that of our dog while the bacterium's is closer to a yeast. These are all valid universes changing with the DNA-encoded perception of each species.
DNA, bacteria, brain --anything humans have given names to are human constructs --the entire universe including what we call "God" is human construct. Reality is awareness and its excitations experienced as observer and observed - classification and description into form and phenomena are human constructs-products of language--linguistic, mathematical, scientific --useful but not fundamental
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