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Jeffrey E. Oct 25, 2015 3:55 PM
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Noam Chomsky

thank you for hosting me last night I could not pass up the opportunity to see you both, but thought it prudent not to strain Valeria's time.. ( good juice) My thinking is as follows. I suggest that artificial intelligence and common sense are the computational models. but computation does not need language. It appears along the inverse function ie questions ? what if? then you need a language that has infinite possible configurations. . even a dog knows what happens if i throw the ball, only human thought asks what if , no gravity, what if, ball filled with helium etc. I think it is Al to the the power of minus 1. so if chemical feedback loops , began to anticipate their reactions to many previously unsearched configurations.

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Noam Chomsky Oct 25, 2015 10:12 PM
To
Jeffrey E.

We were very pleased that you could stop by — on your way to Senegal! That's impressive. Valeria enjoyed it very much as well, and it seemed to have a good effect. She was a lot better today. We even went out for a walk for the first time.

Don't entirely follow what you say below. About Al, the field has two parts. One is basically engineering: let's construct a driverless car, a robot that can clean the house, etc. The other is basically science: let's try to discover how the human mind works, adopting a standard procedure of constructing models, and since we're thinking of the mind as basically a computational system, computational models. Normal science.

I have never seen any difference between the kind of work that I do — and Bob, and quite a few others — and the second kind of AI, which has pretty much withered on the vine as resources are poured into the first kind — which is doubtless of considerable importance, as engineering generally is.

So it's not really clear to me what is at stake.

Noam

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jeffrey E. Oct 26, 2015 8:18 AM
To
Noam Chomsky

the issue of modeling requires mathematics before engineering or at least along side it. i spent the day with gromov yesterday, He s come around on a great many issues and you guys see many things alike. I hope to brign him to cambridge. and you danny hills. berwick , martin he and I can spend some time together. III bring the deli.

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Noam Chomsky Oct 28, 2015 6:49 PM
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effre E.

Could be a fascinating discussion. Some time between your trips to Africa and elsewhere? When's a possible time. Will check with Bob too.

Noam

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