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Fwd: Laurel v Yanny Illusion" & Consonant classifications

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MARK TRAMO Jul 12, 2018 10:47 PM
To
John IversenPeter CarianiMarco Iacoboni

FYI-

  • re: Consonant categories of L vs Y and R vs. N - all or sonorants, voiced, and involve touching the tongue to the alveolar ridge or a little behind it. I have to admit being something of a Liberman fan : motor theory of speech perception.

  • I put together the outline below in advance of my call w/ Natl Geographic in a few mins


LAUREL vs YANNY

L vs Y confusion:

  • both L and Y are in the "sonorant" a.k.a. "resonant" class of consonants

  • both L and Y are voiced consonants

  • both L and Y POA involve putting the tongue against the back of the gums, though L is considered alveolar and Y "alveopalatal"

  • both Laterals like L and Semivowels like Y involve air escaping through small apertures

— in L the air escapes around the sides of the tongue, in Y the alveopalatal aperture is smaller than a vowel's but less restrictive than fricatives and stops.

R and N confusion:

  • both R and N are in the "sonorant" a.k.a. "resonant" class of consonants

  • both R and N are voiced consonants

  • both R and N have same POA = alveolar

  • both MOA retroflex R and MOA nasal N block airflow at the alveolar ridge but In R it comes out the mouth but in N it comes out the nose


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█████████ Jul 13, 2018 5:31 PM
To
Jefffrey Epstein

Begin forwarded message:

Begin forwarded message:

  • From: MARK TRAMO
  • Subject: Laurel v Yanny "illusion" & Consonant classifications
  • Date: July 12, 2018 at 6:47:57 PM EDT
  • To: John Iversen; Peter Cariani; Marco Iacoboni (additional parts/addresses redacted)

FYI-

  • re: Consonant categories of L vs Y and R vs. N - all or sonorants, voiced, and involve touching the tongue to the alveolar ridge or a little behind it. I have to admit being something of a Liberman fan : motor theory of speech perception.

  • I put together the outline below in advance of my call w/ Natl Geographic in a few mins


LAUREL vs YANNY

L vs Y confusion:

  • both L and Y are in the "sonorant" a.k.a. "resonant" class of consonants

  • both L and Y are voiced consonants

  • both L and Y POA involve putting the tongue against the back of the gums, though L is considered alveolar and Y "alveopalatal"

  • both Laterals like L and Semivowels like Y involve air escaping through small apertures

— in L the air escapes around the sides of the tongue, in Y the alveopalatal aperture is smaller than a vowel's but less restrictive than fricatives and stops.

R and N confusion:

  • both R and N are in the "sonorant" a.k.a. "resonant" class of consonants

  • both R and N are voiced consonants

  • both R and N have same POA = alveolar

  • both MOA retroflex R and MOA nasal N block airflow at the alveolar ridge but In R it comes out the mouth but in N it comes out the nose


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