Re: FW: Science FOO

great

--- Lesley Groff lesley@nysgllc.com wrote:

Lesley Groff
Executive Assistant to Jeffrey Epstein

From: Linda Stone [mailto:linda@lindastone.net]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 10:58 AM
To: Lesley Groff
Subject: Fwd: Science FOO

here you go....

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From: Linda Stone <linda@lindastone.net> 
Date: June 25, 2006 10:18:01 AM PDT 
To: littlestjeff@yahoo.com 
Subject: Science FOO 

F, 
I just asked if you could be on the invitation list
for this
event that O'Reilly and Nature Magazine are putting
together called
ScienceFOO (Science Friends of O'Reilly). Hosted at
the Googleplex in
Mountain View, Aug. 11-13. I'll only be able to go
Aug. 11, and briefly
on Aug. 12. Have been contributing a bit on the
planning side.
Mix of scientists and, you can see, from the email
below, some
interesting themes for conversation are starting to
emerge. This is a
not a typical conference... It's totally
self-organizing. Interesting
people are invited, they post on a wiki and email
about what they are
interested in discussing, this is reviewed when
people arrive and
spontaneous conversations and presentations
emerge.... Super fun.
O'Reilly has done a few interesting FOO's over the
years in the tech.
and web 2.0 spaces.
As soon as Kelly and I figure out when she wants me
in LA, will
circle back with you re: Santa Fe/Stanley visit
dates. Would love to see
you and catch up, especially now that I'm feeling
great.
xoxox 
Linda 



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	From: Tim O'Reilly <tim@oreilly.com> 
	Date: June 25, 2006 9:23:53 AM PDT 
	To: scifoo@googlegroups.com 
	Cc: John Brockman <brockman@edge.org>, George
Dyson
gdyson@gmail.com, Steve Jurvetson sj@dfj.com,
Stewart Brand
sb@gbn.org, phillip torrone pt@oreilly.com,
Kevin Kelly kk@kk.org
Subject: Wiki, and talks I want
Reply-To: scifoo@googlegroups.com
	When we've done the wiki for foo camp, one of the
best
sections has
always been "Talks I want" -- requests for what
one
might want to
hear from other invited speakers.
	The wiki isn't up yet, but I thought I'd send out
a few
ideas to
prime the pump, because (as it has done with me),
the
exercise may
also suggest a few other people to invite. I'll
add to
the wiki when
it's up:
	Open Peer Review and Open Science Publishing 

	* I'd love to hear from Nature about what led them
to
their recent
experiments in open peer review (perceived
inequities
and backroom
politics in normal peer review? competition from
open
journals? a
general awareness of open source trends?) as well
as any
early
lessons learned. (It would be interesting to hear
about
the same
thing from PLOS -- have we invited Harold Varmus,
Michael Eisen and
Patrick Brown? Are any of them coming?)
	* For that matter, I'd love a frank session on
what's
wrong with peer
review, and what can be done to make it better.
Peer
review is one
of the most important parts of the scientific
process,
and in theory
helps to get us to the truth, yet, as the old
usenet sig
notes, "The
difference between theory and practice is always
greater
in practice
than it is in theory."
	* For a contrarian view on "open science", it
might be
interesting to
invite someone from Chemical Abstracts. I talked
to
their publishing
director recently, and they have very much the
same
attitude towards
this movement as the music industry had towards
Napster.
It might
make for an interesting conversation :-) I have
his card
at the
office...
	* It occurred to me that we ought to invite Jimmy
Wales
of Wikipedia
(jwales@bomis.com), and one or more thoughtful
people on
open source,
like Brian Behlendorf of Apache
(brian@collab.net),
Mitchell Baker of
Mozilla (mitchell@mozilla.org), Mitch Kapor of the
Open
Source
Application Foundation (mitch@osafoundation.org),
and
Danese Cooper
(danese.cooper@intel.com). Given that one of the
goals
of FOO Camps
is to introduce people who could be useful to each
other, some more
cross-fertilization between the open science
community
and the open
source community that they are learning from might
be a
very useful
aspect of the meeting. Maybe even a few more open
source
leading
lights would be an interesting addition to the
mix.
Larry Wall?
(larry@wall.org) One of the goals of a FOO Camp is
to
introduce
people who ought to know each other, but don't.
	(In general, that leads me to say that I'd love to
have
the people on

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