Re: N

It seems you don't even understand what I have written
about..... you have begun to see things with the
strangest of eyes.. appreciation was for natalie to
teach you to find girls,, did Natali say that I said
you were "Disgusting" .Repeating what
conversation??? don't you get it..3 times ,, 1 natalie
said that "you told her I said it would be nice if you
slept less ,, Oh really did she say that... NO 2 ,she
said, what you said was harsher so she was putting it
in her words, WEll what did she say? it would be
nicer if I slept less" ,,did she say THAT No .....
The fact is that I of course did not mention sleep..
as I said in my e-mail but you chose to ignore,, it
makes no sense.. ,as I said on the phone i don't want
to get into a "he said she said.. " For whatever
reason( unhappy)_ you have chosen to see the "bad in
people instead of the good// DAna, froshy , Natalie,
Jenn, ... You feel no compunction about telling me
what won't change.. ( your not liking me sleeping with
others, baby,,etc.) but seem to find it difficult to
tell me what will...wouldn'it have been nicer to tell
me what won't change is that I love you, instead of
what you don't like... IT would be more helpful , I
think, if you and I dealt with the facts and not what
natali or others say about you...What I find amazing
is the sentence "What I can't deal with is you tell
her personal things.." THe fact that I did't doesn't
seem to have registered, but it easier for you to
focus on your misconception than the issues that
divide us.... Try to examine the facts. ...What is it
that you want?? and what are you willing to do to get
it?...( please try not to tell me what you don't
want.). I don't know,, is not an adequate response for
over a year,,, I am willing to share the blame,..you
may want to ask yourself,, Why does Jeffrey not see
all that I have done?... He loves me,, but says he
sees no change,, Why?.. ,, but over the past three
m,onths I can point to.......

--- nadia marcinkova nadja2102@yahoo.com wrote:

It is interesting' how you see what happened last
night..
Nathalie is the good helpful girl repeating what
you told her about me and apparently making up you
said I also sleep too much to make the issues sound
worse. I am unappreciative for not seeing you both
only share these ï¿½thoughtsï¿½ about me because you
are
trying to help meï¿½ Imagine how I felt listening to
how ï¿½disgustingï¿½ you think I am from
NATHALIEï¿½S
mouth. You put Nathalie in a position of your
ï¿½accompliceï¿½ and I had to listen to it and smile
because she was only trying to help me. Just to be
clearï¿½I do not think her intentions were bad when
she was repeating the conversation to me. I
understand she may have thought it would be helpful
to tell me about it. I do not see how I changed my
version of the conversation 3 times. I did tell you
she was funny about finding girls. You canï¿½t say
some of her ideas were not disgusting but in a funny
way. Yes, she was too tired and after your
discussion she changed her mind about going out.. I
didnï¿½t say it was bad. I donï¿½t think
Nathalie did anything wrong yesterday,, except for
adding the sleeping comment which I didnï¿½t know at
the time.. I am not laying blame at you for any of
her actions. I wasnï¿½t complaining, I was just
telling you about the evening. What I cannot deal
with is the fact YOU tell her personal and hurtful
things about me..
I donï¿½t want to have these arguments with you
either. Youï¿½re right, it shouldnï¿½t be a
struggle..
This has become too heavy.. I love you and donï¿½t
know what to do.

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nadia marcinkova

not a chance did i say anything like that. give and
take ..contribution,, results.. not my concepts...
I'm afraid what you don't realize is that our "issues"
' as you put it, and I have previously told you, are
apparently as obvious to everyone ,as they are to
me.., "fast paced" .. is something I never even
thought of... so you should reconsider , how people
get this idea. ..P>S> yes you have TOLD me on the
phone and e-mails..AND?

--- nadia marcinkova nadja2102@yahoo.com wrote:

I do appreciate that Natalie agreed to teach me
how to find girls. It was a very friendly dinner, it
was funny and we were going to go out until you
heard about the sleeping comment. I donï¿½t even
care
if you said I sleep or not. I was disturbed by the
fact she knew about most of our issues. No, she did
not tell me : Jeffrey said you were disgusting,
Nadia.ï¿½ That is the word I would use to sum up how
Nathalie suggested you described me to her .
This discussion doesnï¿½t make sense; You know
what
you told herï¿½It doesnï¿½t matter what she told me.

Since you didnï¿½t mention sleeping to her, she
must
have made a mistake, or it was her strange
translation of something else. (She said she
translated what you said to make it sound nicer )
I can write some of the things as I remember
themï¿½

ï¿½It would be wonderful if you were more active,
it
would be nice if you did things, it would be
wonderful if you slept less, it is wonderful to be
productive, It is nice when people are in good mood,
relationships are about give and take, contribution
is a very nice thing, It is wonderful to contribute,
It is wonderful to see results . . and the
conclusion is; there are many people in Manhattan.
It is not for everyone, some people might be happier
in less,,, fast-paced,,, places. ï¿½
It really didnï¿½t sound like something she just
made up on her own .
PS: I have told you what would change in both
emails and on the phone.. I just came back after 3
weeks , you havenï¿½t even seen me yet and the same
issue is already starting againï¿½??

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