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THE COURT: What's next?
MR. CASSELL: The motion on Kellen and Marcinkova, our
motion to get in adverse inferenc
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COURT: Yes.
MR. CASSELL: If I can be heard on that, your Honor.
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COURT: Excuse me. Let me go back to where we
were.
Those statements, the statements of the "victims," are
being offered for the truth, are they not?
MS. McCAWLEY: Your Honor, I do not believe they'r
being offered for the truth because what we're saying -- we're not saying whether or not what those victims said was necessarily true. We're saying was she aware that there were a
number -- and they take issue with the number. I don't see a
difference between 17 and 30. But was she aware that there
were a number of other individuals making reports at the time she said my client must have been lying about being abused as a minor. So whether or not those are true or not, the reports,
was she aware that there were a number of reports out there
from other little girls saying that they were also brought to
the massage room. And that goes to her state of mind at the
time she made that statement where she defames my client
internationally.
THE COURT: Yes. But aware of the reports. How could
she be aware of the reports? Aware of the girls and the
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