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MS. McCAWLEY: Do you want me to address that, your

Honor? I mean, it's our evidence that we're trying to get in. Or do you want me to wait?

THE COURT: Well, you don't know. The defense doesn't

know. MR. PAGLIUCA: There is no way. There is no way to

present these documents, your Honor.

THE COURT: Yes. Okay. All right. Because there's

no DOJ witness listed.

MR. PAGLIUCA: There is no record custodian at all for

these documents. Detective Recarey in his deposition -- and

you have this, the relevant answers to these questions -- acknowledged that they don't have any of this evidence. And so

that's going to be, you know -- you have seen, in multiple

filings from the plaintiffs, they attach excerpted documents

containing what they say are phone messages secured from the

trash pulls. So that would be an example of evidence for which

there is no record custodian. Frankly, I don't know who the source of any of that information is. This is yet another

piece of information that has appeared, I'm presuming through

Mr. Edwards getting it somehow, you know, in relation to some

other case and then it appears in discovery in this case. And

what it looks like is, you know, a number of, you know, what

they say are photocopies of message pads from Epstein's trash.

But there is no person who will say, this particular piece of

SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300

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