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rights of similarly situated victims" --
THE COURT: I'm familiar with it.
MR. CASSELL: Okay. Right. So that's Judge Marra's ruling. And you understand that was obviously on a technical
jJoinder issue. The joinder issue, whether that was a
good joinder motion or a bad motion, has nothing to do with
whether or not Ms. Giuffre was defamed.
THE COURT: How do you propose to handle the joinder motion evidentially?
MR. CASSELL: Right. We think the joinder motion
should simply come into evidence as the pleading to which
Ms. Giuffre -- I'm sorry -- Ms. Maxwell was responding.
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THE. COURT: Lock, stock, and barrel?
MR. CASSELL: So we are obviously waiting for guidance from your Honor. For example, if you say, look, Dershowitz,
let's just not get into that, that's --
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COURT: That didn't answer my question. Please.
MR. CASSELL: I apologize.
THE COURT: You talk about many trials, many arguments. You want to put in the entire motion? MR. CASSELL: Yes, unless your Honor -- I want to be
direct here.
Yes. However, if you say, look, Dershowitz isn't
coming into this case, there are some allegations about
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