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ozaass 1 I've read it correctly. 025221 1 speak words. They both have the same physical ability ozaoss | 2 A. Okay. 028228 2 to speak the English language, yes.
osess 3 Q. “Epstein also sexually trafficked the ozs225 3 Q. And, in fact, before, at least three years
ozas9 4 then-minor Jane Doe" -- and that's Virginia Roberts, 28231 4 before December 30th, 2014, she had the ability to be
exsoe § correct? 025235 § quoted in an article, more than one article, in the
025002 § A. Yes. 025232 § Daily Mail in London about her experiences, correct?
ozso03 7 Q. -- "making her available for sex to ozszae 7 A. That's correct.
ozs00s 8 politically-connected and financially-powerful people. ozs243 8 Q. Andam I correct that as of December 30th,
028009 9 Epstein's purposes in lending Jane Doe, along with other ozs24aa 9 2014, you didn't know whether she was paid for that
ozs2s0 10 interview or not?
ozsas1 11 A. Iwasn't sure. That's right.
ozs283 12 Q. And after December 30th, 2014, the references 028258 13 to Prince Andrew and Professor Dershowitz generated 025303 14 international publicity; isn't that true?
o2so14 10 young girls, to such powerful people were to ingratiate
025020 11 himself with them for business, personal, political, and
oz5024 12 financial gain, as well as to obtain potential blackmail
028022 13 information.”
ozs0:30 14 Did I read that correctly?
ozs0:31 15 A. You did.
oso31 16 Q. What did you mean by “obtain potential
028035 17 blackmail information"?
ozsoze 18 A. Okay. Let me just double-check.
o2sos1 19 Once the criminal organization had put the
ozs307 15 A. Okay. Which -- yes, I mean, in a general
25311 16 sense, I could ask which allegations, but these
28313 17 allegations did generate publicity, certainly.
o2sat6 18 Q. Yes. The allegations in your joinder motion ovsate 19 that Prince Andrew and Professor Dershowitz had abused 025324 20 ~~ Virginia Roberts, then known as Jane Doe Number 3, 28328 24 generated a firestorm of publicity; did it not? 025330 22 A. It generated a lot of publicity, yes. orsaa2 23 Q. And within days of that, you were -- you were 02:83:33 24 participating in attempting to arrange an interview with 028338 25 ABC News; isn't that true?
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025045 20 bait out, so to speak, to various people, and they took
o2s049 24 the bait that -- you know, I'm -- I'm speaking
o2s040 22 colloquially here. These are -- these are young girls
025034 23 who are being sexually abused. Once the criminal
o2soss 24 organization had gotten people to sexually abuse
osose 25 these -- these young girls, at that point, they had ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400
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estot 1 information that they could use to blackmail those orsa39 1 A. That -- within days of -- the chronology is ozs02 2 people and -- and then get favors in exchange. o2zs343 2 important here: The allegations were filed in this
o2rsi0 | 3 And that's Epstein at the head of the o2s345 3 pleading on December 30th. Several days after that, estos 4 organization would be the one who would benefit most | oz24e 4 Mr. Dershowitz then took to the airwaves to denounce, os111 5 directly from the black -- the blackmail information. o2s353 § not only Brad and me, but -- but particularly of concern ozstir2 6 Q. And by “blackmail information,” do you mean costs 6& to me was Virginia Roberts, this victim of sex
osii7 7 that Mr, Epstein then had information that he could ass 7 trafficking.
028119 8 threaten to disclose if the other person didn't do what ozsaso 8 And, at that point, as one of -- as one of
025124 9 Epstein asked therm to do? oscar 9 her attorneys, I was looking for a way to respond to o2si2a 10 A. Precisely. aseos 10 that media assault on her by Mr. Dershowitz.
025126 141 Q. As of December 30th, 2014, if Miss Roberts ozsaoo 11 MR. SIMPSON: Move to strike as
025409 12 nonresponsive,
osso0 13 BY MR. SIMPSON:
orsats 14 Q. Did -- within 24 hours of this pleading being 025422 15 filed, there was publicity about the allegations against 028427 16 Prince Andrew and Mr. Dershowitz -- Professor
025431 17 Dershowitz; isn't that correct?
ost32 12 had access to publicity, she had exactly the same
ezst36 13 ability to blackmail people; isn't that true?
oasis 14 A. Absolutely not, A billionaire has far more
asia 15 resources than a victim of child sex abuse, particularly
o2s1as 16 one that has been forced into hiding in Australia to
ozsiaa 17 escape the criminal organization.
ozsis1 18 So for you to suggest that Virginia Roberts 02432 18 A. I don’t know the exact time frame, but
028434 19 that -- you know, roughly that time frame sounds about ozsa36 20 = right. o2se3e 21 Q. If Mr. -- if Professor Dershowitz had never
028152 19 had the same ability to blackmail somebody as Jeffrey
o2s156 20 Epstein is, I think, preposterous.
o2s200 21 Q. As of -- Miss -- Miss Roberts had the same 028203 22 ability as Jeffrey Epstein to reveal publicly the names 025212 23 of the people who she says sexually abused her, as did
028433 22 said anything, wouldn’t you expect that these
025442 23 allegations as to Prince Andrew, in particular, and
o2s217 24 Mr. Epstein; isn't that true? 28447 24 Professor Dershowitz would get substantial publicity?
o2sas0 25 A. There was -- there was -- ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS
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o2se19 25 A. You're talking about physical ability to
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