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ovaass 1 for the production had been carefully crafted to keep ores 1 THE WITNESS: Right. No, I mean, I want to osas? 2 him out of it; in other words, te not produce the orsese 2 make -- I want to make clear that there was a lot orasso 3 October 2005 version. orse37 3 of information that I was relying on in filing

o1:4503 4 The other thing I -- I began to discover as I orvasao | 4 this pleading, and -- and, of course, the later o4505 5 started going through some flight logs, Dave Rogers, who | ot42 § pleading. So we are on the subject of flight

oasce 6 is one of I think about three pilots that -- that orgs = 6 logs.

o14s10 «7 Epstein regularly relied on to fly his -- you know, he oraese 7 Flight logs showed that the flight logs

o4st3 8 had very fancy -- to use the technical term ~~ jets. ores «8 Mr. Dershowitz had produced to Detective Recarey o:4s18 9 There were about -- there were about three pilots there. araeag 9 were incomplete and inaccurate. And so that led oras:20 10 One of them had some flight logs and that -- orass2 10 to concern on my part that Mr. Dershowitz had had o4s24 14 «that was Pilot Dave Rogers, if I'm recalling his name ores 11 an opportunity to sanitize the flight logs,

01452 12 correctly. And so later on in the litigation, the sex arses? 12 had -- had -- had provided incomplete production, o4530 13 abuse litigation against Epstein, flight logs were ovaror 13 you know, obviously, very important production eas 14 obtained from Dave Rogers, and it was possible to -- to oraro2 14 that the Palm Beach Police Department was looking 014537 15 compare -- I'm sorry. I don't mean to -- I want to make = | o1a70s 15 at.

ovas4o 16 sure I get -- you know, the question is: How much can I oraros 16 Then we got some additional flight logs from o14542 17 remember and I'm trying to make sure I get -- get it all orzo 17 Dave Rogers. And what those flight logs

orasee 18 in. oraz 18 showed -- first off, let's talk again about

or4sas 19 And so the flight logs were produced from orarta 19 the -- the production of those flight logs.

orasaa 20 Dave Rogers. And so Dave Rogers produced some flight oraz? 20 My recollection is that Dave Rogers's flight 014551 21 logs, and some of the flights that he produced logs for or4a7.21 21 logs were provided by Bruce Reinhart who was a oss 22 coincided with the logs that Mr. Dershowitz had provided | 01472 22 former Assistant U.S. Attorney who had been a145s9 23 to the Palm Beach Police Department, and there were orarze 23 inside the Southern District of Florida Office at o4s01 24 inconsistencies, And so that, again, aroused my orar20 24 a time when the Epstein case was the subject of oveos 25 suspicion that maybe Mr. Dershowitz when he had -- oraraz2 25 regular discussion in that office.

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oraeos 4 MR. SCOTT: I just got a call from a lawyer oraras 1 And then he had gone to work for some kind of orasog 2 on the screen. His -- his phone is not working, ora7as | 2 a -- a law firm or private operation that was oreo «3 Epstein's lawyer, Darren Indyke. orarag 3 located adjacent to Mr. Epstein's business. And oreo | 4 MR. SIMPSON: Why don't -- oraraa 4 so, now, Reinhart, who appeared to be being paid overs = 5 MR. SCAROLA: Do you want to take a break for orvazas | 8 by Mr. Epstein, and certainly was adjacent to onaerz 6 a second? oraras § & Mr. Epstein's business office, was producing ores «7 MR. SIMPSON: Well, why don't -- well, why avast 7 these flight logs. ose? 8 don't we Jet him finish his answer? orarse 8 So that, again, aroused suspicion that the oreta | 9 MR. SCAROLA: Let him finish the answer. ovarsa 9 flight logs that were being produced would have 014620 10 MR. SCOTT: Yeah, let's do that. You're o1a7s7 10 been sanitized or inaccurate. oras:20 14 right. orarsa 11 But even -- I mean, you know, I think the 0146.21 12 MR. SCAROLA: Although it may take a while. ovaso0 12 problem with -- you know, you can't sanitize ovse2 13 THE WITNESS: It -- it's, I mean, the orasioz 13 everything. That would be too suspicious. And oven, 14 question -- or:as04 14 so what -- what was -- was -- what was evident on oras21 15 MR. SCAROLA: Yeah. But let's -- oraaor 15 these flight logs was, for example, approximately ore2s 16 MR. SCOTT: I don't care. oraats 16 ten flights by Mr. Dershowitz with Tatiana has -- 01:05:25 17 MR. SCAROLA: Okay. Let's -- let's go ahead ovata 17 has been discussed; with Maxwell; with Jeffrey oe27 18 and finish. orasz1 18 Epstein. One of them had one female, which, ora627 19 MR. SCOTT: Let's go ahead and finish the oraa2s 19 again, in the context that I was looking at, orse-20 20 answer. We heard this much. or4a27 20 seemed to be a potential code word for aras2e 21 MR. SCAROLA: Good. Thank you. or4e28 21 underage -- underage girl. arasze 22 THE WITNESS: Okay. So there -- o1aa32 22 And so those flight logs showed, you know, ores 23 MR. SCOTT: I don't want to break him ona 01:48:35 23 again, close association and travel with -- o14632 24 roll. or4eaa 24 with -- with -- with Mr. Dershowitz, and oras33 25 MR, SCAROLA: Thanks. orasar 25 Mr. Epstein.

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