013522 1 what I'll refer to as the blank-check immunity
013533 2 provision.
or3saa 3 There was a provision in the nonprosecution 013533 4 agreement that said, this agreement will prevent federal o3s4o 5 prosecution for international and interstate sex
o13543 6 trafficking, not only of Jeffrey Epstein, and not only ossss 7 of the four women who were identified, but -- and this ossaa «8 = is. a direct quote: Any other potential co-conspirator, 013553 9 close quote.
oss 10 And so that was unusual because what it -- o3ss7 11. whatit seemed to be doing was that somehow this
a13658 12 agreement was quite out of the normal and had been o13600 13 designed to extend immunity to other people that might o136.03 14 have been associated with Epstein.
orze0s 15 And I knew that that category included the o13600 16 people that were involved in negotiating this highly o13611 17 unusual provision included Mr. Dershowitz, who had been oe 18 heavily involved, not only in the drafting of the
or3618 19 agreement, but had also been involved remarkably in 013622 20 attacking the credibility of these girls and saying
o13e25 21 things like, you know, it was -- Epstein wasn't
013628 22 targeting minor girls, which just struck -- you know, I 013633 23 was -- 1 don't want to use a technical term,
013623 24 gob-smocked, that a defense attorney with an obligation or3e:37 25 ~=to tell the truth was making a factual representation
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o3ea2 1 that Jeffrey Epstein was not targeting minor girls, when orse4a4 2 the Palm Beach Police Department had collected, you oe 3 know, 23 of them that had all given essentially
ov3zeso 4 interlocking stories about how they had all gone over to oiz654 5 this house, you know, the mansion, to give a massage and ovzes7 6 when they had gotten there, they had been sexually
ovsess «47 abused.
orsess 8 So the kingpin wouldn't talk. The next
o3701 9 echelon of the trafficking organization wouldn't talk. 013703 10 So the next step was to say, okay, let's see if we can or3706 11 find somebody, you know, lower level in there, you know, osros 12 a household employee or something like that; maybe they or3710 13 - will have some information about, you know, what this ov3712 14 criminal organization is doing.
ors71a 15 Now, let's -- let's understand, you know,
013716 16 given the pervasiveness of the -- of the criminal
ors719 17 «= oaactivity, I -- I wasn't convinced that they were going 013721 18 to be able to get in there and start saying exactly what 013724 19 was going on because they might well be exposing
013728 20 «= themselves to criminal -- you know, criminal
or3720 24 culpability.
ors730 22 But I -- I was able to read a sworn
01:37:32 23 deposition from Juan Alessi, and Juan Alessi -~ I
013737 24 think -- I don't know. Maybe just to speed things up 013738 25 today, I won't go through all the things that are --
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that are said there, but Alessi puts Mr. Dershowitz at
the nest of this international sex trafficking organization. Let's see. I think he said four or five times a year, two or three -- you know, two or three days when he goes there,
And let's be clear, I know Mr. Dershowitz had said at some points like, I'm an attorney, and that's my client and so forth. And Alessi said, no, but this was
notin a -- in a lawyer/client capacity; this is in a
friend capacity.
And so now we have Alessi putting him there
at the same time when young girls were there. And one
of the -- the -- the things that I picked up, so is
Alessi -- you know, is he able te figure out who these
girls are?
A photograph of Virginia Roberts is shown to
Juan Alessi in the deposition, and he I.D.s the
photograph as, you know, V.R., so he -- he had, you
know, put two and two together.
So now I've got V.R. coming to the house at a
time when Mr, Dershowitz is also in the house, and
apparently spending, you know, two to three nights there
and doing this four or five times a year.
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88 after the time period of Virginia Roberts, but it's part of the common scheme or plan that we've been discussing here.
And so in 2005, Alfredo Rodriguez says, yeah, again, Mr. Dershowitz is there at a time when these massages are going on. When you start to look at Alessi and Rodriguez's statements in context where they're -- they're saying he's there at the same time the massages are occurring, and with the West Palm Beach Police Department reports showing that massages are of a sexual nature, again, it started to put two and two together.
One of the things that was particularly important about Rodriguez's situation was that Rodriguez had an access to what's been called the little black book, or I think he referred to it as the holy grail.
This was Jeffrey Epstein's, you know, telephone book where he had telephone numbers in it.
And so Rodriguez had that and, you know, I guess thought that this would be worth a lot of money because it would -- you know, it would identify all of the people that have been sexually abused by -- by Jeffrey Epstein. And so he tried to sellit. The FBI busted him for that.
And when the FBI busted him, now he's got this book. And so the book went to Alessi, and
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