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firm about this -- being on an airplane with anybody who I believed could be the subject of Jeffrey Epstein or anyone else's improper sexual activities.

MR. SCAROLA: Allright. Let's mark the transcript that we've been referring to as Exhibit Number |, please. That's the transcript of the television interviews that we'll be discussing.

(Thereupon, marked as Plaintiff Exhibit 1)

MR. SCOTT: This is actually 2, right? We had one yesterday, an article from the British newspaper?

MR. SCAROLA: No. It was not marked as an exhibit. This is the first exhibit that's been marked.

MR. SCOTT: No, I know that, but I thought we were going to mark that one. Maybe I was -- lL asked for that. Okay.

It was an answer and counterclaim about the allegation shown to the witness.

MR. SCAROLA: And Exhibit Number 2 will be the transcript from yesterday's proceedings that I have just referenced.

(Thereupon, marked as Plaintiff

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A. I don’t remember that I flew with her or not. I may have. But I don't recall necessarily. But I did meet -- I remember meeting a woman named Tatiana. This does not look like Tatiana, like the woman I met.

Q. Okay. So that's a -- that's a different Tatiana?

A. No, I don't know.

MR. SCOTT: Objection, form,

argumentative.

A. [have no idea. I do not recognize this woman. She's not familiar to me at all.

I can tell you this: Without any doubt, | never met anybody dressed like this on any airplane or in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein or in any context --

BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Did she have -- A. -- Telated to this case. Q. -- more clothes on or less clothes on when you met her? MR. SCOTT: Objection, form. He said he never met her. Misrepresent -- BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. When you met the woman that you're

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Exhibit 2.) MR. SCOTT: You don't have a copy of that, do you, of the transcript? MR. SCAROLA: No. Got sent to you. I assume you have it. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. I'm going to hand you what we'll now mark as Exhibit Number 3. (Thereupon, marked as Plaintiff Exhibit 3.) MR. SCOTT: There's no question. MR. SWEDER: Yes. BY MR. SCAROLA: Q. Do you recognize that young woman, Mr. Dershowitz? . No. . Never saw her? . Not that I know of. . Never flew on an private airplane with

. Not that I know of. . Do you recognize the name Tatiana? I do recall that Jeffrey Epstein had a friend named Tatiana. Q. That you flew with?

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referencing, did she have more clothes on or less clothes on than that woman?

A. Every woman that I met in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein was properly dressed, usually in suits and dresses and -- and appropriately covered up. I never met any women in the context of Jeffrey Epstein who were dressed anything like this.

Q. Would you agree that that is a young woman in that photograph?

A. [have no idea what her age is.

Q. So you don't know whether she was underage or overage or a young woman or not a young woman?

A. [don't --

MR. SCOTT: Objection, form.

A. -- know this woman, so I have no idea how old a woman in a picture is. She could be -- she could be 30. She could be 25. I have no idea.

BY MR. SCAROLA:

Q. Or she could be 15 or 16?

A. I don't think so.

Q. But you don't know?

A. This doesn't -- well, 1 don't know how old you are. This does not strike me --

Q. Old enough to know that —

MR. SCOTT: You're cutting --

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