From: on behalf of Ben Goertzel < Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:15 PM To: Jeffrey Epstein Subject: Re: why not have the machine take iq tests Yeah, I have looked at this test before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsler Preschool and_Primary_Scale of Intelligence Note that the test items often involve vision and action, not just abstract puzzle solving... Making an OpenCog system do well on this test would be a great objective for a research project.... Or, even if that's not the explicit objective of the research, I would imagine that after some more development is done, it will be able to pass those tests automatically... If an Al system first deals with these preschool/primary IQ problems, and then moves on to the more advanced IQ problems -- THEN it will probably be able to deal with the more advanced IQ problems in a more human-like, AGI-ish way, rather than just solving them using very specialized techniques... -- Ben On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: > even iq tests for children. there are enough differnt types of tests > making the sytem robust > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote: » Hi, » That's certainly a natural question to ask... » I think one could engineer a system to do really well on current » written IQ tests, with a couple years' focused work by a small team... » IQ tests are hard for people, because people do them using the same » abilities they use to do other, more complex and useful tasks.... » But just as folks have engineered specialized systems for chess and » Jeopardy, one could engineer a special system for IQ tests... » For example, with rather modest effort, this group engineered a » system that does well on specific portions of the standard IQ test » http://www.kurzweilai.net/computer-programs-that-ace-iq-tests » I believe a similar approach could be taken to each of the other » portions of the IQ test.... Putting them together, one would then EFTA_R1_01730161 EFTA02565606 » have a high-IQ Al system -- without much capability to do anything » else... » The tests used to measure intelligence of preschoolers are a bit more » interesting to me, in the sense that they tend to involve intelligent » engagement in the world, which is harder to "fake" ... » The bottom line is, though, IQ tests are moderately effective for » humans because they are designed to exploit particular features of » the human mind. It's hard for humans to pass IQ questions without » being pretty generally intelligent, but the same wouldn't necessarily » be true for Al minds... » -- Ben » On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Jeffrey Epstein » <jeevacation@gmail.com> » wrote: >» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=229ehewjdUk »> » > -- » >» The information contained in this communication is confidential, >» may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside >» information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It >» is the property of Jeffrey Epstein Unauthorized use, disclosure or >» copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly >» prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this >» communication in error, please notify us immediately by return >» e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this >» communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. >» copyright -all rights reserved » » Ben Goertzel, PhD » http://goertzel.org » "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche > > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may > be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and > is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of > Jeffrey Epstein Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this 2 EFTA_R1_01730162 EFTA02565607 > communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be > unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to > jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this communication and all copies > thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-13"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>conversation-idgkey> <integer>245372</integer> <key>date-last-viewed</key> <integer>0</integer> <key>date-received</key> <integer>1360592123</integer> <key>flags</key> <integer>8590195713</integer> <key>gmail-label-ids</key> <array> <integer>6</integer> <integer>2</integer> </array> <key>remote-id</key> <string>27547S</string> </dict> </plist> 3 EFTA_R1_01730163 EFTA02565608