From: jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 5:10 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Re: we agree, that is why i try to stay away from the wo=d infinity in broad usem infinity is really on a math co=cept. On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Noam Chomsky /a» <mailto wrote: Apes can gesture "I'm=hungry," but their symbolic systems differ radically from human la=guage in just about every significant respect. There are very broad uses of language= but I think they're more confusing than helpful. There is a=biological system: human language. The English word "languag=" (which, incidentally, doesn't translate easily, even to closely re=ated languages) covers a lot more than that, just as "move =9D or "energy" in English cover a lot more than what scien=ists mean by the term. Seems to me a good idea to follow scientific =ractice and avoid the broad uses, except in informal discourse. From: jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.comj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 11:55 AM To: Noam Chomsky < mailto > Subject: Re: gesturing im hungry, ? does that n=ed a language first with your broad definition? On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Noam Chomsky >= wrote: Don't see how it would work.=C2 We can't tell stories until language is already available. There are, of course, speculations ab=ut how language might have developed very slowly, first with short sentences, then longer ones, etc. One could interweave specula=ions about story telling into these. Problem with these tales is the=usual one with speculation — one can imagine 1 million possibiliti=s. Dick Lewontin's important paper on evolution of cognition is again relevant. And there is a more formidable probl=m: the leap to unboundedness is saltational, by definition, so nothing is =ained by the speculations, a fact that many of those engaged in these effo=ts seem not to have grasped. EFTA_R1_01591047 EFTA02477220 From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:jeevacation@gmail.comj Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 11:25 AM To: Noam Chomsky > Subject: how does story telling fit in to the origin of langu=ge. ? internal stories? overlay on mus=c . alarms? how important are stories ? please no=e The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> , and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved please no=e The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com> , and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved 2 EFTA_R1_01591048 EFTA02477221 please =ote The information contained in this communication is confiden=ial, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside informati=n, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the propert= of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communica=ion or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If =ou have received this communication in error, please notify us immediat=ly by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com <mailto:jeevacation@gmail=com> , and destroy this comm=nication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -=11 rights reserved 3 EFTA_R1_01591049 EFTA02477222