IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA CASE NO.: 502009CA040800XXXXMBAG JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Plaintiff, vs. SCOTT ROTHSTEIN, individually, BRADLEY J. EDWARDS, individually, and L.M., individually, Defendants. TRANSCRIPT OF HEARING PROCEEDINGS VOLUME II (Pages 29 - 34) DATE TAKEN: TIME: September 8:47 a.m. 28, 2011 PLACE: Palm Beach County Courthouse 205 North Dixie Highway West Palm Beach, Florida BEFORE: DAVID CROW, Circuit Judge This cause came on to be heard at the time and place aforesaid, when and where the following proceedings were stenographically reported by: Christine Phipps, RPR, FPR, CLR Realtime Systems Administrator www.phi are orting.com snippy 7<eportinr EFTA01081016 APPEARANCES: On behalf of Plaintiff: FOWLER, WHITE, BURNETT, P.A. West Palm Beach, Florida 33401-6170 BY: JOSEPH L. ACKERMAN, JR., ESQ. BY: CHRISTOPHER E. KNIGHT, ESQ. On behalf of Bradley Edwards: SEARCY, DENNEY, SCAROLA BARNHART & SHIPLEY, P.A. West Palm Beach, Florida 33402-3626 BY: JACK SCAROLA, ESQ. www.phippsreporting.com (888)811-3408 Pfiiiips• EFTA01081017 31 1 Thereupon, 2 the following proceedings continued at 8:47 a.m.: 3 * * * * * * * k * 4 THE COURT: I'm just giving you divisional 5 requests in conjunction with the process, 6 malicious prosecution is the counterclaim that 7 was filed at the time where there were claims 8 in the main complaint that are no longer 9 existing and, in fact, deal with those claims, 10 you understand what I'm talking about, you had 11 all kinds of -- 12 MR. SCAROLA: RICO, civil remedies for 13 criminal conduct. 14 THE COURT: Which have all been no longer 15 a part of the complaint, and I need you-all to 16 talk about does that -- how that affects the 17 claim of the defendant here against the 18 plaintiff. You understand what I'm getting at? 19 MR. SCAROLA: I will tell your Honor that 2C we will be filing a motion for leave to amend 21 to assert malicious prosecution of those now 22 dismissed and disposed of claims. 23 THE COURT: Perhaps you-all ought to wait 24 for punitive damages to get your motion filed 25 and there's an amendment. That was the next www.phi are orting.com P//ii/.p/id: '1\c/'0i-lift EFTA01081018 32 1 thing I was thinking about. 2 MR. SCAROLA: That was our plan. 3 MR. ACKERMAN: Thank you, your Honor. I 4 didn't hear the beginning, but I'll read the 5 transcript, and as you know, when we first came 6 into the case and took over the complaint and 7 said we will be amending it on the facts we 8 have, and we will respond to your question. 9 THE COURT: I want to get the pleadings 10 set before we start doing substantive motions 11 in regard to those pleadings. 12 MR. ACKERMAN: And we're ready. 13 THE COURT: I think Mr. Scarola, if you're 14 going to do that, let's do that first before we 15 set the motion for punitive damages. 16 MR. SCAROLA: May I understand from that 17 comment that I have the court's leave to amend? 18 THE COURT: Is there an objection? 19 MR. KNIGHT: No, but I thought I heard you 20 say the opposite, you want punitive damages 21 heard first. 22 THE COURT: No, now I know he's amending, 23 I think it would be appropriate to have the 24 amended complaint, and we know the claims 25 before we determine whether punitives is www.phi are orting.com Th4vpa 4parlitir EFTA01081019 33 1 applicable to either/or all of those claims. 2 MR. ACKERMAN: Your Honor -- 3 MR. SCAROLA: We'll get that done very 4 promptly. 5 MR. ACKERMAN: Since I don't know what's 6 in the amended complaint, if there's malicious 7 prosecution, that should come at the end, not 8 the beginning. 9 THE COURT: That's a different question. 10 The question is whether he can amend, not 11 whether or not -- 12 MR. KNIGHT: Thank you, Judge. 13 THE COURT: You want to send me an order, 14 that's fine, I'll grant it, okay. Thank you. 15 (Thereupon, the proceedings concluded at 16 8:54 a.m.) 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 www.phi are orting.com Tfiip19(s- Ike:porting.— EFTA01081020 34 COURT CERTIFICATE STATE OF FLORIDA COUNTY OF PALM BEACH I, CHRISTINE PHIPPS, Registered Professional Reporter, certify that I was authorized to and did stenographically report the foregoing proceedings and that the transcript is a true and complete record of my stenographic notes. Dated this 29th day of September, 2011. 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