From: Seth Lloyd < To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com> Cc: "Nowak, Martin" Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:40:56 +0000 I'm not sure about self awareness but self-referential math famously gives paradoxical result. This capacity for self reference is the basis for Godel's incompleteness theorem and Turing's halting problem (plus the free will results that I mentioned). Seth On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:58 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: my take is that many of the equations break down , into indeterminate form zero to to zero . etc. division by zero. etc. funn. it seems self aware math is also opaque. Forwarded messa e From: Seth Lloyd Date: Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 10:55 PM Subject: Re: To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com> That's a tough one! Too tired from DOD blather blather to take it on tonight though. Fun talking today. Seth On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 8:35 PM, jeffrey E. leevacation@gmail.com> wrote: Alice knows her own state ? No signal needed? On Sunday, October 23, 2016, Seth Lloyd c wrote: Dear Jeffrey, Number Seth Sitting here writing report for DOD. Would welcome interruption. On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 10:45 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote: number ? please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE EFTA00813672 Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation®gmail.com, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved EFTA00813673