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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH DIVISION 3 4 5 6 7 8 IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APPEARANCE: TESTIMONY OF / Grand Jury #07-103 (WPB) West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, February 6, 2007 ASSISTANT U. S. ATTORNEY FOREPERSON COURT REPORTER OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085291 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 PROCEEDINGS The sworn testimony of was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 701 clematis street, west Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on the 6th day of February, 2007. , Registered Merit Reporter and Notary Public was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. Thereupon, a witness of lawful age, having been first duly sworn by the foreperson, testified on her oath as follows: BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q , please state and spell your name for the record. A It is and I work for the FBI in Palm Beach County Q Can you spell your last name, please. A I'm sorry, it is Q And I know we have some people in the back having trouble hearing you. You said that you work for the FBI. Can you tell the Grand Jury what particular group you are employed with? A I am with the in OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085292 3 1 Palm Beach County, I work primarily crimes against 2 children, but have been an agent for the last 3 approximately 10 years. 4 Q Have you received specialized training in the 5 area of crimes against children? 6 A Yes, I have. 7 Q As part of your employment with the FBI have 8 you been involved in an investigation of Jeffrey 9 Epstein? 10 A Yes, I have. 11 Q And can you tell us who Jeffrey Epstein is? 12 A Jeffrey Epstein is an investment advisor who 13 has a part-time residence in the town of Palm Beach, he 14 has got multiple residences across the country to 15 include a ranch in New Mexico, an island in the virgin 16 Isles, and multiple aircrafts, two airplanes and a 17 helicopter to be exact, and -- 18 Q And where is his primary residence? 19 A His primary residence, he has an office in New 20 York, but his primary residence I believe is the island. 21 Q In the virgin Islands? 22 A Yes. 23 Q He also has a home in New York, correct? 24 A Yes. 25 Q HOW is it that you started investigating OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085293 4 1 Mr. Epstein? 2 A The Palm Beach Police Department in March of 3 2005 initiated an investigation on Mr. Epstein involving 4 multiple underage females that had visited Mr. Epstein's 5 residence and had performed sexual massages or massages 6 for Mr. Epstein of a sexual nature. 7 Mr. Epstein paid the underage females anywhere 8 from 200 to $400, that investigation was around an 8 to 9 10-month investigation, and at that point we became 10 involved in about July of 2006. 11 Q And once the case was presented to you by the 12 Palm Beach Police Department did the FBI open its own 13 investigation? 14 A Yes, yes, we initiated our investigation in 15 July of 2006, we took a look at focusing in on the 16 underage minors and in our investigation we interviewed 17 many of the girls that were underage and we did an 18 independent investigation issuing Grand Jury subpoenas 19 as well as administrative subpoenas getting different 20 documents of financial records, telephone analysis, 21 flight manifests, looking to see if Mr. Epstein engaged 22 in sexual activity with these females. 23 Q All right. And just so the Grand Jury is 24 clear, were some of the girls who went to Mr. Epstein's 25 house 18 or older? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085294 5 1 A Yes. 2 Q And then there were some that were under the 3 age of 18, correct? 4 A Yes. 5 Q And as part of the federal investigation did 6 you have to investigate what we call the interstate 7 nexus aspect of the case? 8 A Yes. 9 Q And can you explain to the Grand Jury what 10 that is? 11 A we looked at -- Mr. Epstein, as I mentioned 12 earlier, has two aircrafts, and we focused in on the 13 year 2004, 2005, he took approximately 60 trips to his 14 residence in Palm Beach, the majority of that time 15 focusing in on his assistant's cell phone, which his 16 assistant's name is , we took a look at her 17 cell phone records and the majority of the times that 18 Mr. Epstein would fly into Palm Beach Mrs. -- Ms. 19 would contact many of our underage victims either prior 20 to coming into Palm Beach, the day of, the day before, 21 even the day after, and certainly throughout the time 22 that Mr. Epstein was at his residence in Palm Beach. 23 Q And from the interviews of the girls that have 24 been conducted, what was the subject of those telephone 25 calls? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085295 6 1 2 3 4 A Can you restate the question? Q Sure. From the interviews of the girls that have been conducted, what was the subject matter of the telephone calls from ? 5 A would schedule the underage girls 6 to come and work, perform the massages for Mr. Epstein, 7 so she was responsible, she as well as another 8 assistant, , they were his personal 9 assistants who would set up appointments for Mr. Epstein 10 for the girls to come and perform their sexual massages. 11 Q All right. is also considered a 12 target of this investigation? 13 A Yes, she is. 14 Q And I will just I will spell 15 for the Grand Jury. The first name is 16 and the last name is spelled 17 and does Ms. have a new last 18 name? 19 A Yes, she does, she is married and her name is 20 21 Q Is ms. at least a subject of 22 this investigation, in other words, you are 23 investigating her activity? 24 A we are looking at that. 25 Q In addition to those two assistants, from the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085296 7 1 interviews of the girls, is there anyone else who is 2 associated with mr. Epstein who is thought to be 3 involved in this activity? 4 A has been referred to as his 5 companion, girl friend, personal assistant, she through 6 the testimony of the girls has engaged in sexual 7 activity with at least three of the underage minors. 8 Q And is so Ms. 9 is also at least a subject of the 10 investigation, correct? 11 A Yes, she is. 12 Q Now, as part of this investigation you 13 mentioned that subpoenas were issued on behalf of either 14 the old Grand Jury or this Grand Jury. 15 can you run through what subpoenas have been 16 issued and what documents have been received in response 17 to that? 18 A Sure. we issued a Grand Jury subpoena to 19 colonial Bank and we received financial records on 20 credit card accounts and individuals. 21 we subpoenaed washington mutual and they did a 22 search and were unable to locate records at this time. 23 we issued a Grand Jury subpoena for Capital One and 24 served that and that is still unresolved at this time as 25 far as them providing documents to us. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085297 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 We have subpoenaed Chase Credit Card and we have received documents from Chase. we have subpoenaed two businesses that Mr. Epstein has at least partial ownership or associated to, Hyperion Air, Inc. and JEGE, Inc., they were issued subpoenas and they have provided documentation to us. we have subpoenaed Mr. , who is a pilot of Mr. Epstein's, and we have received documentation from we have subpoenaed DTG 10 11 12 Operations, who is doing business as Dollar Rent-A-car, and we have received car rental agreements and financial records from that business. 13 we have subpoenaed Royal Palm Beach High 14 School and have received documentation regarding the 15 students' records. We have subpoenaed three or four of 16 the victims, being the first, and we have 17 received a bathing suit from 18 we issued a Grand Jury subpoena to 19 , we actually have issued three subpoenas, 20 and we are still working on resolving her Grand Jury 21 material as well as testimony. 22 We have issued a subpoena, we 23 have issued -- she also is one of our underage victims. 24 we've issued Reimer Employment Agency a Grand Jury 25 subpoena and we have received documentation, that is an OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085298 9 1 2 3 4 employment agency located on the island of Palm Beach. we have subpoenaed the Palm Beach Police Department for their evidence in this case and we have received that. By the way, that is the only thing that 5 I did not bring with me today, I brought everything 6 else, but it is rather a lot of evidence, so we will 7 probably be bringing that to you another time. 8 we have issued the Clerk of Courts of the 9 State of Florida for Grand Jury transcripts in the state 10 matter and we have received those. we have issued the 11 Good Samaritan Hospital for billing records and we have 12 received those. 13 We have issued a Grand Jury subpoena to the 14 Dalton School located in New York and at this time they 15 do not have the records we have requested or could not 16 locate those. 17 we have issued a Grand Jury subpoena to Extra 18 Touch Flowers located here in west Palm Beach and we 19 have received documentation from them. we issued a 20 Grand Jury subpoena to , another pilot for 21 Mr. Epstein, we have spoken with him. 22 we have issued a Grand Jury subpoena to 23 another one of Mr. Epstein's pilots, and we 24 have received documentation as well as spoken to him. 25 we have issued a Grand Jury subpoena to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085299 10 1 2 3 who is the property manager currently for Mr. Epstein at his Palm Beach residence, and we have received documentation as well as spoken to him, and we 4 have issued a Grand Jury subpoena to 5 6 and have received some documentation and are still awaiting a response. 7 Q Now, you mentioned that you didn't bring with 8 you the evidence that you received from the Palm Beach 9 Police Department, but did you bring with you all of the 10 other evidence that was received in response to the 11 subpoenas? 12 A I have. 13 Q And is that evidence in the two boxes that are 14 here in the front? 15 A Yes. 16 Q we will bring all of this back to you when we 17 present the indictment, but would anyone like to look at 18 any of the documentation today? 19 A GRAND JUROR: what does the documentation 20 constitute, basically, the subpoenas? 21 THE WITNESS: It is primarily business 22 records, flight manifests, stuff that came from him 23 traveling to and from Palm Beach, credit card 24 records, the businesses as far as the rental 25 agreement which involves some of the underage girls OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085300 11 1 with the rental cars, and flower shop, you know. 2 A GRAND JUROR: Will we have an opportunity 3 later to go through these if we need to? 4 Yes, we will bring them when 5 we present the indictment. Yes, ma'am. 6 A GRAND JUROR: If I should hold this for 7 later let me know, she mentioned the hospital 8 records were subpoenaed, could more information 9 about why they were subpoenaed be provided at this 10 11 12 13 BY time? answer that. the girls that was an underage -- that Q You can A One of 14 was underage at the time that is involved with 15 Mr. Epstein has had a baby and we were interested and 16 wondering if possibly he was the father of that baby, 17 which at this time we do not believe he was. 18 A GRAND JUROR: Thank you. 19 A question? 20 A GRAND JUROR: Did the flight manifest show 21 passengers on the plane? 22 THE WITNESS: Yes, they do. 23 A GRAND JUROR: Were any of the passengers the 24 underage girls that were a target of the 25 investigation? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085301 12 1 THE WITNESS: At this time we have not 2 associated any of these underage girls as being the 3 passengers. The flight manifests, sometimes the 4 pilot if they did not know who the passenger was 5 would put one passenger or one female, one male, 6 these were private planes and they, you know, may 7 not have felt like they can go up and ask, but we 8 don't have any evidence at this time to believe 9 that they were any of our victims. 10 Any follow-up? Any other 11 questions from the Grand Jury? Yes, ma'am. 12 A GRAND JUROR: The records that you 13 subpoenaed from the high school, what were they 14 used for or why were they instrumental in the 15 investigation? 16 THE WITNESS: Those are the girls' school 17 records and we are just looking at the girls' 18 records. 19 A GRAND JUROR: Absenteeism? 20 THE WITNESS: Just looking at some of their 21 grades and performances and how they did in school. 22 Ladies and gentlemen, before 23 we continue, the witness has mentioned a few names 24 of the minors and that is confidential information, 25 obviously everything that you hear within these OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085302 13 1 walls is confidential. 2 BY 3 Q Now, ! after -- in 4 addition to issuing the subpoenas, you mentioned that 5 one of the subpoenas was to the Palm Beach Police 6 Department. Did you review any of the evidence that 7 they collected? 8 A Yes. 9 Q And can you, for example, did the Palm Beach 10 Police Department interview any girls? 11 A Yes, they did, they interviewed several of the 12 girls, most of the girls, they took taped statements 13 from the girls either in the form of a tape-recorder or 14 through video. 15 Q And you have reviewed some of those 16 interviews, correct? 17 A Yes, we have. 18 Q And has the FBI performed any interviews? 19 A Yes, we have, we have performed interviews of 20 past and current employees of Mr. Epstein as well as 21 focusing in on the girls, the girls that were underage 22 at the time of the sexual activity, we wanted to 23 determine with these girls, again, the sexual activity 24 that took place with Mr. Epstein as well as how old they 25 were at the time, if they traveled with Mr. Epstein, any OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085303 14 1 gifts that they may have gotten, so we did reach out to 2 several of the underage minors and gathered more 3 information from them. 4 Q And through the FBI's investigation has the 5 FBI identified additional victims that perhaps the state 6 police officers did not know about? 7 A Yes, we are still trying to identify, get 8 first names of girls and going back and looking through 9 school yearbooks and attempting to try to locate friends 10 of friends, so we are still in the process, when you 11 interview one of the girls and you ask if any of their 12 friends went, they sometimes will give you other names, 13 so we are in the process of still uncovering victims and 14 reaching out and interviewing additional girls that we 15 believe possibly were underage at the time of this 16 sexual activity. 17 Q If I could ask you to step outside. 18 (The witness was excused from the Grand Jury 19 room.) 20 (Questions posed by the Grand Jury.) 21 (The witness was recalled to testify before 22 the Grand Jury.) 23 BY 24 Q one of the Grand 25 Jurors asked whether there was any evidence of force or OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085304 15 1 coercion. 2 A when talking to the girls they were told that 3 they may have to -- they were going there to perform a 4 massage, possibly model lingerie, they went there 5 sometimes on multiple occasions and they may start off 6 wearing their clothing and then he would instruct them 7 to remove their clothing, the girls either performed 8 these massages in the nude or keeping their underwear 9 on. 10 As they went back again and again on some of 11 the occasions the girls would take off more and more of 12 their clothing, so when they first started they may be 13 fully clothed and then when they came back he would 14 instruct them to remove more of their clothing, so as 15 far as coercion, they were paid $200 to $400 to perform 16 these massages. 17 They are not trained in performing massages, 18 they don't -- they are not masseuses, but yet if you ask 19 if they were coerced, they were paid quite a bit of 20 money for 30 to 45 minutes work. 21 Some of the girls, being that they were minors 22 going to his residence, got in over their heads and did 23 not always return or come back, some of our victims did 24 not come back after, you know, they did go down to their 25 thong underwear and Mr. Epstein did perform sexual acts OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085305 16 1 either by -- and I didn't get into that, but either by 2 stroking their vagina on the outside of their panties or 3 sometimes inside their panties as well as fondling them, 4 and the girls, many of our victims did not realize that 5 that was what was going to happen. 6 Q And was there one instance where Mr. Epstein 7 actually engaged in vaginal intercourse with a girl 8 against her will? 9 A Yes, he did, one of our victims who had been 10 going there over a lengthy period of time had told 11 Mr. Epstein on several occasions that he was not to do 12 that and he did turn her around, threw her on the 13 massage table and penetrated her. 14 Q A Grand Juror asked how old Mr. Epstein is. 15 A He was 45 at the time that we are looking at 16 him at that time period. 17 Q A Grand Juror asked if you know the proportion 18 of girls who were underage versus 18 or older. 19 A The majority of the girls that we are looking 20 at are victims, well, all of our victims that we are 21 looking at were under the age of 18. 22 As far as all of the girls that have been 23 interviewed, the majority definitely were under 18. To 24 give you a number, 1 would have to go and count, but I 25 would say in the state investigation there were over 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085306 17 1 girls identified and more than a majority would have 2 been under the age of 18. 3 Q A Grand Juror asked whether we have obtained 4 Mr. Epstein's DNA and whether there was any DNA testing 5 of the baby that you spoke of earlier. 6 A No, we have not. 7 Q A Grand Juror asked how Mr. Epstein would make 8 contact with the girls, was this done via computer or in 9 some other method? 10 A I am sorry, , his personal 11 assistant, would contact, or on some occasions 12 would also contact the girls via their cell 13 phone and we have message pads from the residents that 14 also indicate the girls calling the home in response to 15 some of those phone calls, so they would call, 16 would call, the majority of the calls were made 17 by to the girls arranging for these, you 18 know, can you come at this time, can you come at that 19 time. 20 Q And is the cellular telephone a facility of 21 interstate commerce? 22 A Yes, it is. 23 Q And then one of the Grand Jurors asked whether 24 the assistants knew that the girls were underage or 25 committed sex acts. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085307 18 1 2 3 4 5 Did anybody, have you interviewed anybody who affirmatively told you that they told their age or what was going on behind closed doors? A No, no, not at this time, not at this time. Q And what leads you to believe that she, for 6 example, knew or should have known what was 7 going on? 8 A There are so many girls that 9 contacted to give mr. Epstein massages that have no 10 training in massages, and that was aware 11 that girls were bringing other girls, you know, their 12 friends to do these massages. 13 was also making appointments for 14 legitimate massages for Mr. Epstein from legitimate 15 masseuses that would come and give him massages, so the 16 number of girls, their appearances at the time would 17 lead us to believe that had knowledge that 18 these girls were underage. 19 Q All right. Thank you very much. Those were 20 all the questions from the Grand Jury. 21 A GRAND JUROR: Actually, I have two more, 22 but. 23 Okay. 24 A GRAND JUROR: what was the actual age range 25 of these girls? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085308 19 1 THE WITNESS: 14 to I mean. 2 A GRAND JUROR: The other one was, how did Ms. 3 actually originally get these girls, how 4 were they brought in, I mean how were they, you 5 know, because you said she called them when he was 6 arriving, but how did these girls come into this in 7 the first place? 8 A GRAND JUROR: Could she speak louder? 9 , we 10 just had a request that you speak louder. 11 A GRAND JUROR: 14 and what? 12 THE WITNESS: Our victims were 14 to 17, but 13 we have girls that are 18, we have girls that are 14 20, we have girls that are in their early 20s, and 15 your question was? 16 A GRAND JUROR: How did she originally get 17 them in in the first place? 18 THE WITNESS: We are focusing in on 2004, 19 2005, we have some evidence to show that this 20 activity was taking place even earlier than that, 21 certainly to include 2003 if you look at the 22 message pads, but focusing in on 2004, 2005, the 23 chain started with one of our minors and from that 24 minor who goes to the house, Mr. Epstein tells 25 her -- sees that she is maybe not comfortable with OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085309 20 1 doing the massage the way he would like it and 2 tells her that she could bring other girls to do 3 the massages and she in fact if she brought another 4 girl she would be paid $200 for just bringing 5 another girl, so there starts the chain, and 6 Mr. Epstein would ask the girls or would ask 7 the girls for their phone numbers so each time, you 8 know, if one of the girls brought a girl and he 9 liked her he would ask for her phone number, ask 10 her to leave the phone number, or 11 would get the phone number and then that girl would 12 maybe bring, because if you brought somebody you 13 didn't have to do the massage, but you also got 14 paid for bringing a new person, so not only if you 15 did the massage would you get anywhere from 200 to 16 400, but if you brought a new female you would 17 receive 200 or $400. 18 A GRAND JUROR: Do you know how she solicited 19 that original minor? 20 THE WITNESS: I don't. well, I know that 21 minor was approached by two individuals and we have 22 interviewed one of those individuals who we can 23 connect back to Mr. Epstein four years, possibly, 24 prior to this, and stated that his job was actually 25 to drive some of the girls to the residence and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085310 21 1 that's pretty much where we start off. 2 3 Would the Grand Jury like to maintain the records 4 that we received in response to the subpoenas? 5 A GRAND JUROR: Maintain versus what? 6 A GRAND JUROR: What is our choice? 7 I don't know that there is. I 8 guess I could maintain them, but I don't believe we 9 have secure storage in here. 10 would you like 5, to 11 maintain custody? 12 A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 13 : You should have something to 14 swear her in as a custodian. 15 (The witness was sworn in as the custodian of 16 records.) 17 : Thank you, ladies and 18 gentlemen, I am the last person for today, so you 19 guys are free to go and we will see you probably in 20 a couple of weeks, we will be seeing a lot of you. 21 (The witness was excused from the Grand Jury 22 room.) 23 (The testimony of the witness concluded 24 before the Grand Jury.) 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085311 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I certify pages 2 through 21 are a true transcript of my shorthand notes of the testimony of )efore the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida on the 6th day of February, 2007. Notary Public Commission . Expires May 8, 2008 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085312 • UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR APPEARANCES: ESQUIRE Federal Grand Jury, 07-103 West Palm Beach, Florida February 27, 2007 Assistant United States Attorney Foreperson ORIGINAL EFTA00085313 1 The sworn testimony of Page 2 2 was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm 3 Beach Division, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, 4 State of Florida, on the 27th day of February, 2007. 5 Court Reporter, was authorized to 6 and did report the sworn testimony. 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 EFTA00085314 2 (The witness entered the grand jury Page 3 room.) 3 having been duly sworn by the grand jury foreperson, 4 was examined and testified on her oath as follows: 5 EXAMINATION 6 BY 7 Q Good morning, . Could 8 you restate and spell your name for the record. 9 A It's 10 11 Q Can you remind the grand jury who you are 12 employed by? 13 A The FBI. 14 Q I know that you testified here a few weeks ago. 15 Was there anything from that testimony that you wanted to 16 correct? 17 A I did. I was asked by one of you Mr. Epstein's 18 age, and I confused him with another individual in another 19 one of my cases. His birthdate is January 20, 1953. We 20 are looking at the time period of 2004 and 2005. So 21 Mr. Epstein would have been about 51 or 52-years-old, and 22 I believe I told you he was 45. So at the time we're 23 looking during this investigation, he is 51 or 52. 24 Q , how did this case first come 25 to the attention of the police? EFTA00085315 Page 4 1 A In March of 2005, our youngest 2 identified victim -- called the Palm Beach 3 police department and reported that she believed that her 4 had been molested by a male that resided in 5 the town of Palm Beach. 6 So today we are going to talk about 7 A Yes. 8 Q And we are using her initial to protect her 9 identity, correct? 10 A Yes. 11 Q Can you tell the grand jury date of 12 birth? 13 A birthday is 14 Q And you mentioned that the call came in ttom 15 in March of 2005, correct? 16 A Yes. 17 Q So how old was at that time? 18 A She was 14. 19 Q Where does live? 20 A lives in the Loxahatchee-Royal Palm Beach 21 area here in Palm Beach County. 22 At the time, in 2005, what school was she 23 attending? 24 A 25 Q What year was she in school? EFTA00085316 1 2 3 4 A She was a ninth-grader Q You mentioned that her Palm Beach police department. What department do in response to that there. Page 5 called the did the police call? 5 A They wanted to interview I believe it was 6 the next day they went out to where =Gas attending 7 8 9 school at that time, interviewed at of what took place. which I think was They d wanted to get her side 10 Q Because we'll be referring to this throughout, 11 12 what was the name of the detective who conducted that first interview? 13 A Detective 14 Q So in March of 2005, detective talked with 15 Was ever interviewed at any other times? 16 A Yes. She was interviewed -- they talked to her 17 again. She placed some controlled calls for them later 18 that month, we will talk about that later. As well as 19 she was interviewed about a year later in July of 2006. 20 Not interviewed, but she testified before the grand jury 21 for the State of Florida. So she was interviewed by 22 detective Pagan in March of 2005, and then about a year or 23 three or four months later, in July of 2006, she testified 24 before a grand jury with the State of Florida. 25 Q In preparation for your appearance today, did EFTA00085317 1 Page 6 you have a chance to interview 2 A Yes, I did. 3 Q And when was that? 4 A Last night. 5 Q Back in March of 2005, you mentioned that 6 detective met with on or more than one 7 occasion? 8 A Yes. 9 Q If you could give us sort of an overview of what 10 reported during these interviews, and then if there 11 are specific discrepancies or differences, we will return 12 to those later. 13 A All right. On February 5, 2005, it was a 14 Saturday, and was at house, She 15 was there with her boyfriend, And because these 16 are minors, we'll refer to them without using their last 17 names, so I'll use those initials. 18 They were at residence, and is 19 boyfriend, which is also cousin. So they 20 were all at house, and was on the phone with 21 an individual that prefers to as the assistant. 22 described the assistant as a tall blonde. 23 So throughout I'll refer to her as the blonde lady, if 24 that's okay. was unable to recall her name. So 25 is on the phone with the assistant for Jeffrey EFTA00085318 1 2 3 4 Epstein. describing the phone. So and overhear Page 7 on the phone to the lady on phone, and (describing when gets off the 5 both want to know why was being described to 6 this lady on the phone. Zach becomes upset when 7 asks if she would like to go to Palm Beach and give a 8 man a massage that she knows. agrees, and this 9 upsets'''. and an argument ensues wherell'Illand 10 11 go into the bathroom and they argue outside the presence of 12 Q Let me stop you there. Was supposed to be 13 paid for giving this massage? 14 A Yes. told that she would be paid 15 $200 or $300, I believe. 16 0 You mentioned that is boyfriend, and 17 Zach is also cousin, correct? 18 A Yes. 19 20 Q What was idea about why they were arguing? 21 A She has told us that she believed that must 22 have known what was doing for this man and the work 23 24 that did for Mr. Epstein, and that is why was so upset. 25 Q So knew that this wasn't just a regular EFTA00085319 Page 8 1 massage that was going to take place? 2 3 4 5 A decides to go. 6 Q Because she wanted to make the $200 or $300? 7 A Yes. 8 Q So tell us then what happened after that 9 meeting? 10 A The next day, February 6 -- they discussed that 11 12 phone records two calls that were placed. One was placed 13 to Kellin's cell phone, and the other was placed to 14 Jeffrey Epstein's residence the night of February 5. A Yes. Q So and have this argument. What does 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 decide to do? evening about going the next day. We do have on The next day is contacted a couple of times before arrives. Each time prior to being contacted by a call is placed by to Kellin's cell phone. Kellin, I should tell you, is Jeffrey's assistant. So on Sunday a call was placed to Kellin, and then shortly after that a call was made to That same series occurs again, but this timeillilliplaces a call to Mr. Epstein's residence, and then is called again. Eventually, comes to residence with EFTA00085320 another girl in the car, Page 9 So the two of them 2 arrive at residence, and they continue over to 3 Mr. Epstein's house. 4 Q is driving with and . Do you know how they were sitting? A You know, I'm not sure how they were sitting, 7 but I know that it was a pickup truck that drove, 8 and was the driver. I'm not sure exactly the 9 10 placement of the other two girls, but they were in the truck. 11 Q And ■ was able to describe how they travelled 12 to the island of Palm Beach? 13 A Yes. She gave directions -- you know, the best 14 that she could on how she was able to come to 15 Mr. Epstein's residence. 16 17 Once they arrived at the residence, what happened? 18 A I should have mentioned that either the night 19 before or the day of, there were some things that 20 tells One, she tells that she is to tell, if 21 asked, that she is 18-years-of-age, that she attends high 22 school, that she's in the 12th grade, and I believe it was 23 24 Wellington High School that she was to say that she went to. 25 Talking to last night, told us that EFTA00085321 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 once she arrived at the residence Page 10 tells her that she may possibly be asked to take her clothes off. She also tells her that she can stay in her bra, but she may be asked to take her clothes off. And told us last night that that's when she knew for the first time that she might have to possibly remove her clothes. At this point they proceed to enter the residence. =describes him as a security person. He approached and asked what they were doing there, and said they were there to see Mr. Epstein, or see Jeffrey. He allowed them entry into the kitchen area by the pool, and describes that area. So now and are all sitting in the kitchen. A short time goes by and Mr. Epstein, as well as the assistant, enter the kitchen. Q And I know that you mentioned that did not know the name of the lady who was there in the kitchen, correct? A Right. Q She just described her as a blonde, tall lady? A Yes. Q Was that day? A also interviewed about what happened She was interviewed by the Palm Beach police department. EFTA00085322 Page 11 1 Q Did identify the person who was on the 2 phone with her as 3 A Yes, she did. 4 Q So even though ■ doesn't know her name, 5 knew Hame? 6 A Yes. 7 Q So you mentioned that the three girls are in the 8 kitchen, along with Jeffrey and the person ■calls the 9 blonde lady? 10 A Yes. 11 Q What happened then? 12 A follows the blonde lady upstairs to 13 Mr. Epstein's bedroom. The blonde lady proceeds to take 14 out a massage table and set it up, prepare it. She also 15 takes out some lotions to be used during the massage. 16 told me last night that the blonde lady asked her to 17 remove her clothing, and then left the room and said that 18 Mr. Epstein would be in shortly. 19 Q what happened after she left the room? 20 A Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein does come into 21 the room and shakes s hand. told us last night 22 that Mr. Epstein told her to remove her clothing. He 23 leaves the room and comes back in just a towel, and he 24 tells her again to -- she is at that point -- when he 25 walked in the first time she had on her bra and her pants. EFTA00085323 Page 12 1 When he comes back in, he tells her that she needs to take 2 her pants off. So she took her pants off. So now she's 3 in her bra and underwear. 4 Q At some point did Sage tell any of the people who interviewed her what was running through her mind? 6 A She stated at one point that she was upstairs 7 with him, with the man, and that Maas downstairs. I 8 guess she says, "What coul do? She's downstairs, 9 I'm upstairs." So she did what she was asked to do. 10 Q So now you mention that Mr. Epstein is here 11 wearing just a towel, and has removed both her shirt 12 and her pants, is that correct? 13 A Yes. 14 Q Tell us what happens then? 15 A Mr. Epstein gets on the massage table lying on 16 his stomach and instructs how to do the massage. He 17 tells her to put some lotion on her hand and instructs her 18 on how to actually perform the massage. At one point 19 during the massage he tells ■ that she would be more 20 comfortable to get on top of him, so gets on top of 21 him and straddles Mr. Epstein's back. 22 The way describes it is Mr. Epstein is 23 laying on the table, he has a towel covering his bottom, 24 and she is straddling him with her bottom touching the 25 towel and some skin touching his lower back. She was kind EFTA00085324 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 13 of sitting -- it sounds like sitting on his rear end, but with part of her skin touching him -- the front of him, but he had a towel across his bottom. What happens as she is providing the massage to his back? A The massage goes on. She said the entire massage lasted anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes. At one point Mr. Epstein excuses himself for a few minutes, one or two minutes briefly. states that she can hear Mr. Epstein moaning or groaning, and states that she believes he was, in her words, 'wacking off' or masturbating. She didn't say masturbating, she said 'wacking off.' I am going to use that she believes he was masturbating. Then he returns. At this point he gets back on the table lying on his back and asks her to start massaging his chest. So she begins to massage his chest. Q Does he keep the towel on? A No, at this point the towel is removed. When he comes back and he gets back on the table, the towel is removed and she is massaging his chest. Q What does he do as she is massaging his chest? A He moves his hand up and down his penis. So he continued to masturbate on the table. He asked at some point during this time, if she would like to make an EFTA00085325 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 14 extra $100. He tells her that it would not involve doing a massage. agrees. He asked her if he could use a vibrator on her, and she does agree. describes it as a purple vibrator that was used said this goes on for about ten minutes. At some point during that massage the vibrator is not used anymore and takes place. describes him Q What did she say happened when Mr. Epstein digitally penetrated her? A The vibrator is used. At some point he does her. And these are her words. She looks at him kind of funny, and he sarcastically -- which is her word -- he sarcastically says, "What's the matter?" And she at that point just kind of looks away, and he continues on with the In the last three to four minutes of that, he begins to masturbate again. At the conclusion of the sexual activity, Mr. Epstein wipes his penis off with a towel. was asked if he ejaculated. She did not see him ejaculate, but saw him wipe his penis off with a towel. Q Was able to provide a physical description of Mr. Epstein? A Yes. EFTA00085326 1 2 3 4 Page Q Including of his penis? A Yes. was she also able to provide a description of her surroundings in that massage area? 5 A Yes. 6 Was that description accurate? A Yes. According to other testimony we have 8 gotten from other victims, yes. 9 10 Q And a search was performed on Mr. Epstein's house? 11 A Yes. The Palm Beach police department did 12 perform a search, and several of the items that were 13 described were found in the house. 14 15 Q After Mr. Epstein wiped himself off, what happened? 16 A He told that she was getting the extra 1.7 hundred dollars because he was allowed to use the vibrator 18 on her and The massage had been 19 concluded, the sexual activity had been concluded. He 20 gets up and leaves for a brief moment of time and comes 21 back with S300 and pays the $300. I believe he told 22 that she could see herself out. 23 Q Before we leave that room, when was either 24 being directed to the room or was inside that room where 25 the massage took place, was there anything in particular EFTA00085327 Page 16 1 that she noted seeing? 2 A She noted seeing several naked pictures of girls 3 in the room, a mural or pictures of naked girls either 4 exposing their breasts or completely naked. 5 Q While the massage was going on, did Mr. Epstein 6 talk to 7 A Yes, he did. 8 Q And did he talk about sexual conquests with 9 girls? 10 A Yes, he did. 11 Q Once Mr. Epstein has provided with the 12 $300, what did she do? 13 A She went back downstairs and she, and 14 leave the residence. In the car they ask how 15 much money she has made, and she tells them $300. 16 wants to see the money. She shows the money to and 17 asks what did she do. At that point tells her 18 that he fingered her, as well as used a vibrator. 19 Q When they left the house, where did they go? 20 A When they left the house, they were on their way 21 to a mall to go shopping with the money that they had 22 received from Mr. Epstein. had told the night 23 before that she needed some shoes and wanted to go to the 24 mall, and she was going to Mr. Epstein's to pick up some 25 money. That was another reason that she had for going to EFTA00085328 1 2 3 4 Page 17 Mr. Epstein's house that day, and that they were going to go shopping after she got her money, and that could make some money. Q During that ride, did realize that 5 received money from Mr. Epstein? 6 A Yes. At some point knows that 7 received $200, but is unsure that ever gave a 8 massage. So at that particular time did not know why 9 she had gotten the $200, because she didn't think that 10 had had time to give a massage. 11 Q In interview, did she explain what she 12 got the $200 for? 13 A told the Palm Beach police department in 14 her interview that she received her $200 for bringing 15 to the house. 16 Q You mentioned that there were these three 17 different time periods that was interviewed: Shortly 18 after the events, at the time of the state grand jury 19 proceedings, and when you met with her, correct? 20 A Yes. 21 Q And there were some discrepancies between the 22 different interviews. Can you explain some of those to 23 the grand jury. 24 A Before we go and get to that, I want to make 25 sure that -- when we discussed what was told in the EFTA00085329 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 car by that we learned from Page 18 interview with the Palm Beach police department. So I don't know if I said that, but I learned that interview that department and want to make sure you know that we first had bee Dy listening to the was conducted between the Palm Beach police , not from . When I talk later, I just want to make sure you realize that that had not initially come out in interview, but through the interview with So going back. I'm sorry, discrepancies? Q Yes. A I met with ■ last night to discuss some of the discrepancies when looking at what she had talked to detective about in March of 2005 and what she had testified to in the grand jury in July of 2006. Reading the testimony and listening to the tapes, or reading the transcript, there were a few discrepancies. One of the first ones we talked about was what had told her about going to Mr. Epstein's house. She tells detective that she was told about the massage, told about getting $200, but that she was not told that she would have to take her clothes off. She didn't know she would have to perform the massage naked. When I asked her last night that question, she told me that when she got to the house prior to going into EFTA00085330 1 Page 19 1 Mr. Epstein's residence, that did tell her that she 2 may be asked to take off her clothes. She also did state 3 that told her she could stay in her bra. 4 So I wanted you to know that there was a 5 discrepancy in what she originally had told detective 6 Pagan and what she told me last night. That would be one. 7 The second discrepancy I wanted to touch on with 8 her was going upstairs and taking off her clothing. When 9 she is in that room, she states to detective that 10 asked her to remove her clothing, and she took off 11 her shirt. Then Mr. Epstein came in the room, shook her 12 hand and told her to take off her clothes. He leaves, he 13 comes back in a towel. He tells her again. IIIII[ells 14 detective in a stern voice, *Mr. Epstein told me to 15 take off my pants.• Because she hadn't taken off her 16 pants from the first time that she met him. 17 In her testimony with the grand jury with the 18 state, she tells the grand jury that it was who 19 asked her to remove her clothing. So last night we went 20 over with her who told her to remove what. She had a very 21 hard time recalling exactly. She knew she had gotten down 22 to her bra and underwear. And then at some point, when 23 we're going through the sexual activity, she actually 24 tells me that her underwear was off when he was using the 25 vibrator and EFTA00085331 Page 20 1 2 we have in her testimony to the grand jury and her 3 statements made to detective And she really is 4 having a difficult time trying to remember who told her to 5 6 7 that it was Mr. Epstein who told her to take off her 8 pants. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 detective, when she gives her first statement. She tells 17 18 19 she doesn't get fully undressed. And when Jeffrey comes 20 back, he said, "Take your pants off."? 21 A Yes. And again, like I said, when we started 22 interviewing her and asking her about this, she did have a 23 24 25 her pants. take off her clothes and her pants. As we are walking through. the sexual activity, she does recall and states I guess I'll go to the third discrepancy. Is there anything I left off with that? Q Well, does she report that when the assistant leads -- or the blonde lady leads her upstairs, that the blonde lady also said, "Get undressed," but that didn't get fully undressed? A That's what she said in her statement to the us again last night that that's what she recalled. Q That the lady said first, "Get undressed," but Later in the interview, we tell her about what hard time. But when we were walking through the sexual activity, that's when she recalls who told her to take off EFTA00085332 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 21 And I'll tell you, when we talked about the sexual activity, and it comes out that she wasn't wearing her underwear when he was her and using the vibrator, she does not recall how they came off. She cannot remember removing her underwear. She doesn't remember if Mr. Epstein removed her underwear. She knows her underwear was off, but she cannot tell you exactly at what point her underwear was removed. Q Let's talk about the third discrepancy. A The third is the sexual activity, when she was originally interviewed by detective Pagan about the vibrator or being Pagan comes tell her at When detective and sees her again a few weeks later, she does that time that a vibrator was used on her. She also says that to the grand jury, she talks about the purple vibrator being used on her. Last night she told us about the purple vibrator being used on her. When we asked her about him her, and that had told the police department that she had beel told us last night that she by Mr. Epstein, but that she thought only her and knew about this and that she did not want her father to know that hE her. She didn't want anybody to know, but she especially didn't want her father to know, that that was her business. That EFTA00085333 Page 22 1 she did not know that had told anybody, she thought 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 us, afraid that he would be able to read in our reports 12 about this. 13 We explained to her that the FBI's reporting is 14 a little bit different than the way the state -- those are 15 it was only her and that knew. She was embarrassed and didn't want anybody to know that. A being Did she become visually upset? Yes, she began crying when we asked her about When she realized that we knew about that, she became very upset and concerned about her father. She mentioned that her father has read a lot 9 of the reports in the State of Florida, and has followed the state's case. She was concerned about even telling public records, and ours is part of our case file. 16 Q In addition to the fact that she had these 17 concerns about her father and she was embarrassed, in your 18 experience of interviewing victims of sexual abuse, is it 19 typical for them to not disclose all of the sexual 20 activity? 21 A Yes, it's very typical. And young girls, they 22 don't want to talk about it. This is just another case of 23 her not wanting to tell exactly what took place. 24 Q After that first visit to Mr. Epstein's house, 25 and the interviews with detectiveM did detective '-1•11111117, EFTA00085334 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 23 Pagan ask to make what are called controlled calls? A Yes. Q Can you explain to the grand jury what a controlled call is? A A controlled call is where we actually have a listening device, where we have an individual place a call to somebody and we are able to record the other person's voice and the conversation that takes place between the person that we're having make the call and the person that they are calling. Q Who did detective Pagan ask to call? A was asked to call on the phone. Q And did she do so? A Yes, she did. Q Can you tell the grand jury when the calls were? A I believe the first call was made towards the end of March, I believe it was March 30. at the concerned that father had found out somehow called where works. was and that they knew about it. And she refers to him as Jeffrey, but Mr. Epstein. told her that they did not know about Mr. Epstein. Later in the conversation tells her that Mr. Epstein would like her to come back and work for him, and that maybe she could work for him tomorrow. So EFTA00085335 1 2 3 4 they agreed that there would be a call between tomorrow, that will call tomorrow. Q Were there calls also made on March 31 A There were two calls made on March 31. Page 24 and of 2006? The 5 first one she doesn't connect to . The second call 6 that was made a short time later, answers the phone. 7 Again, there is a discussion about coming to work for 8 Mr. Epstein. tells -- one of the comments that 9 is made is, "The more you do, the more you make." is 10 asking her how much can I make. 11 Again, detective Pagan is there, and is 12 asking how much can I make. is telling 13 that she'll have to ask Mr. Epstein that, that she is 14 going to see Mr. Epstein tomorrow and that she'll.talk to 15 Mr. Epstein. There is conversation about and her 16 possibly coming to Mr. Epstein's house. There 17 is some discussion about her coming to work for 18 Mr. Epstein. 19 Q Just so it's clear, because there were a lot of 20 shes, is telling that is going to see 21 Epstein the following day? 22 A Yes. 23 And that is going to set up a schedule 24 with Mr. Epstein for and to work for him? 25 A Yes. EFTA00085336 Page 25 1 2 Q On April 1, the following day, did make calls to 3 A From the Palm Beach police department, they were 4 able to take voice mail messages left by on 5 6 phone stating that could come and work on Saturday around 11:00. 7 Q I think you mentioned this last time, but in 8 case you didn't, did the Palm Beach police department do 9 trash pulls at Mr. Epstein's house? 10 A Yes, they did. 11 Q Was there anything of value related to this 12 series of calls that were recovered? 13 A Yes. There was a trash pull done in the 14 15 beginning of April, and paper that on it had in the trash name, there was a piece of name, and I 16 believe it was 10:30 listed on the piece of paper. 17 Q It said with on Saturday at 10:30? 18 A Yes, it did. 19 Q In addition to the actual recordings of those zo 21 22 23 24 2s phone calls and voice mail messages, do you also have telephone records from both cell phone and cell phone that match up? A Yes. Q Just to go back to something that you mentioned. Who actually gave the $300 cash to at the day she was EFTA00085337 1 at Mr. Page 26 Epstein's house? 2 A Mr. Epstein. 3 Q You mentioned a girl named 4 A Yes. 5 Q Was also interviewed? 6 A Yes, she was. 7 Q Was she asked about going with to take 8 girls to Mr. Epstein's house? 9 10 11 12 13 A Yes. 0 Was she asked who the youngest-looking girl was? A Yes. What did she say? A She discussed looking young in her 14 interview with the Palm Beach police department. is Those are all of my questions 16 for you now. If you could please step outside, I'll 17 see if the grand jurors have any. 18 (Witness excused, and then returned.) 19 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 20 Q we have just a few questions. 21 One relates to the conversation between Mr. Epstein and 22 about his exploits with other girls. Did Mr. Epstein 23 say anything about the age of those girls? 24 A He said that -- in particular on one case he 25 talked about a young girl that he was in the back seat EFTA00085338 1 2 Page 27 with, and her parents were in the front seat. He told that they were having sex in the back seat -- were 3 doing sexual things in the back seat while he was carrying 4 on a conversation with the parents in the front seat. I 5 guess they were on their way home from a business party. 6 This was one of the stories that he had talked about. 7 Q But at no time did he provide any specific ages 8 about any of those girls? 9 A No. 10 Q What was age at the time she took 11 to Mr. Epstein's house? 12 A She was 18. 13 Q Did Mr. Epstein ask anything about her age? 14 A He did. He asked her how old she was, she said 15 she was 18. He asked her what grade she was in, she said 16 she was in the 12th grade. He asked her where she went to 17 school, and she said she went to 18 Q I know we will be doing a lot more discussion 19 about later. But could you tell us briefly how 20 ■ was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? 21 A was at the beach, and two individuals 22 approached her about making money and giving a massage to 23 Mr. Epstein. 24 Q How old was when she first went to 25 Mr. Epstein's house? EFTA00085339 Page 28 1 2 and starting at age 17. 3 4 5 (Witness excused, and then returned.) 6 By 7 8 evidence to suggest that Mr. Epstein knew that was 9 under the age of 18? 10 11 multiple girls that went to Mr. Epstein's house -- the way 12 that having seen last night, and now she's 16 -- this 13 was two years ago -- that age and behavior -- and 14 again, is that more circumstantial evidence? As far as 15 concrete evidence, no. But just by her appearance and her 16 mannerisms and how I observed her last night at age 16. 17 18 during her statement, correct? 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Through phone records, we have contact between Thank you. Q The question was, was there any particular A I would say through the interviews of the Q And that's consistent with what Serena said A Yes, it is. : Those are all the questions. Any other questions? JUROR: Did she look 18? THE WITNESS: Does look 18? Not in my opinion, sir. All right. Any other questions? Okay, thank you, very much. EFTA00085340 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 29 (Witness excused.) CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I CERTIFY pages 1 to 28 is a true transcript of my shorthand notes of the testimony of before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida, on the 27th day of February, 2007. Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 18th day of March, 2007. Court Reporter EFTA00085341 14 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA ORIGINAL RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR TESTIMONY OF SPECIAL AGENT Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, March 20, 2007 APPEARANCES: Assistant united States Attorney Foreperson OFFICIAL RPPORTTNG SERVICE, LLY EFTA00085342 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT II was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 20, 2007. Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085343 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. Q please state and EXAMINATION could you spell your name for the record? A Q It's It's Now Special Agent , last week or the girls, A last time that we met, we discussed correct? Yes. two Q Who visited Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. Q And those were and A Yes. Q girls? A Did you obtain photographs of those Yes, I did. OFFICIA prunopTiar er°1"CE, LLC EFTA00085344 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And do you know approximately when those photographs were taken? A They were taken during the same time period that we are investigating, '04 and '05. There may have been a few in '03, but it was within a year's time of six months within the activity that we are investigating. Q All right. Let me show you what has been marked as Grand Jury Exhibits 1 and 2, and can you tell us what Exhibit 1 is? A Exhibit 1 is and it's a photograph of her with her date of birth listed. Q And what is Exhibit 2? A A photograph of with her date of birth as well BY those to the Q Now the had described how to Mr. Epstein's A Yes. Q Did Epstein house? A Yes, she did. on it. And I will just pass grand jury. last time that we were had brought here, you home? bring other girls to the OFFICIAJ RVP(IPTTNn RPPVTCE, LLC EFTA00085345 1 Q And is one of those girls 2 A Yes. 3 Q And what is the date of birth of 4 S A She was born 6 Q And where did go to high 7 school? 8 A 9 10 11 A 12 13 school? 14 A Yes, she was. 15 Q Tell us a little bit about -- well, 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And is that the same school that went to? Yes. And was ever a student at that first of all, did the Palm Beach Police Department have a chance to interview A Yes, they did. Q And what about yourself? A And I did as well. Q Okay. Tell us, if you will, how started going to Mr. Epstein's house? A was the one who brought to Mr. Epstein's house. told that she may have to remove her clothing and that she could OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085346 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 makes $200 if she performed a massage for Mr. Epstein. She also was told by that he may try to touch you, but if you are uncomfortable, just tell him no, and she also said that if Epstein asked her age, she was to say she was 18. Q Now that information that you just relayed, who provided that information? A Q And what did A I'm sorry. provided in the interview to me that information. Q Did also admit that she brought to Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. Q When did this first occur? A This occurred in -- we believe the first time period was when was 16. Q And is there any telephone records that show communications between and A Q '04 when and Yes. And when and are those phone records? Those phone records show up in March of would be 16. OFFICIAL RFPORTTNfl SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085347 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Let me show what has been marked as Grand Jury Exhibit Number 3, and what is Exhibit 3? A This is a hoto raph of with her date of birth, Q Now you mentioned that in March of 2004 and April of 2004, there are these records of phone calls and did say how old she was when she first went to Mr. Epstein's house? A I'm sorry. Did say how old she was? Q Did she tell you or the police officers how old she was? A Yes. I'm sorry. I thought your question was did she tell Mr. Epstein. She told me that she was 16 when she went to Mr. Epstein's house. Q Okay. That is consistent with those phones calls? A Yes, it is. Q Okay. Now during her first visit with Mr. Epstein, what happened? A She went to Mr. Epstein's house. took her there. told her she didn't have her driver's license at that time, which she told OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085348 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 her she got her driver's license when she was 17. So drove her to Mr. Epstein's house. She provided Mr. Epstein with a few massages. She remained clothed both times that she gave him a massage. At this time, she kept her clothes on. I think one time she was wearing shorts and a T-shirt, maybe the second time she was wearing jeans and a T-shirt. That he constantly grabbed and pulled at her during the massage trying to draw her closer to him, but at that time, you know, there was no sexual activity other than the grabbing and pulling. There was no sexual activity that took place on those first couple of massages, and she remained clothed at that time. Q Now after those first few massages, was there a break in time before returns to the Epstein house? A told us that she and had had some kind of a fight or a disagreement, a breakup in their relationship, so there was a time period where she did not go back to Mr. Epstein's house. Q And when -- did there then come a time OFFICIAT RRPORTING SFRVT - E, LLC EFTA00085349 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 when she returned to the Epstein house? A Yes. We have phone activity between of '04. and beginning in December Q And of '04? how old was in December A She had turned 17 at that time. In fact, through the course of the phone records beginning in December of '04 to October of 2005, we have over 150 phone calls between and , Mr. Epstein's assistant. Q What did tell you about the activity that occurred when she started returning in late '04? A When she started giving Mr. Epstein massages after that break, the massages became much more sexual in nature. Mr. Epstein continued to push and there were many times when would perform massages completely nude. Several times, she would stay in her underwear with no bra on, but stated to me that many occasions she performed the massages to Mr. Epstein in the nude. In addition to being unclothed, was there other sexual activity? OFFICIAL REPORTING svIRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085350 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes, interview with discussing the that time. there was. during my she became very upset when sexual activity that took place at She stated that Mr. Epstein had digitally penetrated her. It began first by rubbing her on the outside of on more than one occasion actuallyl with and then He would request her to pinch his nipples. He rubbed her breasts as well. She stated that there was a vibrator that was used on as well, but that she described the vibrator as being a white vibrator with a gray head, and several of the other victims have said the same thing, described it similar to that. Q And just I forget, when you testified about also report having a vibrator used on her? A Yes. Q And, again, so the record is clear, when you are talking about these vibrators, they are the large back massager type vibrator? A We have had some girls just describe OFFICIAL PPPrIPTIMC - CE, LLC EFTA00085351 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 them as a vibrator. We have had some girls just describe them as a back massager and then we also had girls describe them as both, because of the size of it, I think some girls are more aware of what a vibrator would look like due to their ages. You know, I don't know that everybody knew exactly what a sexual vibrator looked like, but they all vibrated, and we have actually had that described, and described it as both, a vibrator slash massager, saying that it was, you know, large in nature. Q Okay. Now in addition to using that massager and was there other sexual activity? A Yes. Several times during the massages, Mr. Epstein would have straddle him while he laid on his stomach and then he would reach between her legs and masturbate and occasionally -- Q And this is when he was laying on his back not his stomach? A I'm sorry. Did I say that? Q You said on his stomach. A He is laying on his back. She's on top of him straddled, and he is reaching between her OFFICIAL REDORTINC SPRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085352 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 masturbating, and he has attempted to put his penis on never penetrating her, but that was what was described to us by Q Now when was first interviewed by the Palm Beach Police? A She was interviewed October 6th of 2005. Q And at that time, did she say when her last visit was to Mr. Epstein's house? A Yes, she said October 1st, 2005, was the last massage that she had given Mr. Epstein. Is there any other evidence that was recovered from Mr. Epstein's or his household items that would confirm that statement? A We have a message pad. During the search warrant, several of the message pads -- I don't know if we referred to them at this stage. We may not have. We recovered -- well, I shouldn't say we, the Palm Beach Police Department recovered several message pads. They were carbon copy message pads. So we have several of those books from their search warrant and in there, there is a message on October 1st confirming appointment for the massage as well as another 7 OFFICIAL EPORTING SFRV CE, LLC EFTA00085353 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 girl, Q And is there also evidence that and actually spoke on October 1st before that message? A We have cell phone calls between and was from as well as the message which to Jeffre the appointment for regarding -- confirming but we have a cell phone call I believe it was a little bit earlier from to )r maybe it was , but it is definitely between the two of them on that same day. Q All right. When to was interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department, did she describe all of the sexual activity? A No, she did about the vibrator or about the vibrator or Q And, again, not. She did not tell them the -- she didn't tell them you said that when you brought up -- did you sort of confront her with the idea that more had occurred? A I did, and she was very embarrassed about the vibrator. I asked her at one point if Mr. Epstein had given her any gifts and she got very red in the face and began to tear up and you OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085354 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 could see that she was very embarrassed. So we took a little bit of a break, but then she was able to say that Mr. Epstein had provided her as a birthday present a vibrator. So not only was there a vibrator back massager used on her, kind of but at this what got time -- and I think that's talking about the sexual activity that she was able to tell me that, and she was Epstein very, very embarrassed, but that Mr. had given her for her eighteenth birthday a vibrator. Q Now you mentioned that that happened on her eighteenth birthday? A Yes. Q And was she able to tell you whether Mr. Epstein knew it was her eighteenth birthday? A She stated that Mr. Epstein provided to her on her eighteenth birthday the vibrator and shortly well -- Q So before you had said that had instructed to tell everyone that she was 18; do you remember that? A Yes. Q But at some point, the people in the Epstein household learned that she hadn't turned OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085355 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 18 yet and her birthday was coming up? A Her birthday was coming up. Q And at some point, was a car provided Yes. In October of '05, asked Mr. Epstein is she could borrow one of his cars to go to Orlando and he stated that -- at first he said yes, and then he said he would get her a rental car. So contacted a few days later and said that a car had been rented for and that the house manager used the company credit card and picked up that car, and actually when the police interviewed her on October 6th, which was five or six days after the last massage, they were able to see that that Nissan Sentra that had been rented by Mr. Epstein, had that in her possession for at least through January 1st of 2006 and that car was rented by Mr. Epstein for at least that amount of time. describe how the massage appointments would be made? A Yes, she did. Q And how was that? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085356 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A She stated that , that , Jeffrey's assistant, would call her and set up appointments, and that sometimes she would call her on her cell phone from New York, from the Islands, and say that they were coming into town, was she available. She would also call while they were in town to see if she was available for massages, to give massages to Mr. Epstein, and stated that , who we have identified as , called her a few times as well to set appointments up. O And when those appointments were made how would reach A By phone. Q All right. And whether she was in town or out of town, she would call cell phone? A Yes. Q All right. Now was there any -- during the interview with the police department, did the police department ask about what she discussed with Jeffrey Epstein during the massages? A I would have to check the police reports OFFICIAL RPPORTINC cwwvlcE, LLC EFTA00085357 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to give specifics on that. Q All right. A My answer to your question is yes. Q Okay. And what did she say were some of the topics of discussion? A Mr. Epstein asked her questions about herself, asked her if she was a soccer player or that -- Jeffrey knew that she was a soccer player and asked questions about her college, about where she was going to school. is currently going to and she had advised Mr. Epstein that she would be attending college at Q So that was a -- but that was her future plan? A Yes. Q So in other words, did Mr. Epstein know that she was in high school at the time? A asked told the Palm care what Q Now did or to the Yes, he did. And the Palm Beach Police if Jeffrey knew her age and Beach Police Department, he didn't my age was. describe either to you police department how she would be paid for these massages? OFFICIAL Tflfli1T1TrOje , ^-fl - 7CE, LLC EFTA00085358 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 She stated she was paid $200 and that she received anywhere from two to $300. Q With every visit? A With each visit. Q Okay. Did she say who would provide her with that money? A She said that Jeffrey paid her at the end of the massage. Q All right. You mentioned the gift of the vibrator. Were there other gifts that were given to Yes. The time period is unclear, but the vibrator was given to her for her eighteenth birthday. There were three sets of bra and underwear, panties, Victoria Secret bra and underwear sets that were also given teas gifts from Mr. Epstein. Q Now I know that we talked earlier about the fact that is the person who brought to Mr. Epstein's house. 'Did bring anyone to Mr. Epstein's house? A brought a female m of and that was a friend of Q And let me show you what has been marked as Grand Jury Exhibit 4, and what is Grand Jury OFFICIAL PPPIIRTTNn SRRVIMF, LLC EFTA00085359 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Exhibit 4? A It's a photograph of date of birth of Q How old was her to Mr. Epstein's house? A 2005 and Q when with a took ook her there in the spring of was 18 at that time. Now can you tell us now went about bringing to the house? A told that she could make some money giving and together. a massage to Mr. Epstein and went to Mr. Epstein's house The first time that ent there, she did not go upstairs and give him a massage was working that day. But in talking to further, stated that she probably over the period of time between the spring of '05 and October of '05, performed around five to ten massages for Mr. Epstein. The first few of those he did not do anything as far as no masturbating, no sexual activity. She would just perform a massage. Q And did that change over time? A Yes, it did. She stated that she OFFICIAL RVPORTING gPRVICE, LLC EFTA00085360 20 1 performed two to three massages out of those five 2 or ten and in her underwear and bra only, and 3 that he would push her each time. 4 He would just push her to do more and on 5 the third -- I believe she stated the third or 6 fourth massage, he told her that she could make 7 more money if she removed her clothing, because 8 she stayed clothed during the first few massages, 9 and she was paid $200 for each of those massages. 10 On the third or fourth massage, Mr. 11 Epstein said that she could make more money if she 12 removed her clothing. So around the fourth or 13 fifth time, she did start taking off her clothing 14 down to her underwear and bra only. 15 Q And then what happened when she was at 16 that point of being unclothed? 17 A She would perform the massage. He 18 attempted to touch her, but she always would say 19 no. At one point, her bra does get undone by Mr. 20 Epstein, but she does keep it up. 21 Now that was the extent of his touching 22 At some point, did he begin masturbating 23 in front of her? 24 A Yes, he did. Not in the very beginning, 25 but throughout this he did. Now I should tell you OFFICIAL REPORTING SRRVTCF, LLC EFTA00085361 21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 stated to us that because she was kind of reserved or held back as he made advances towards her, she was able to see Mr. Epstein's penis and that he was masturbating, but that he never finished, that he never ejaculated. She did not feel that Mr. Epstein liked her very much. Q But just to sort of compare what said with what said, they both said that at the beginning they remained clothed? A Yes. Q And that Mr. Epstein progressively pushed and pushed and pushed for more sexual activity? A Yes. Q Now what was the period of time that went to Mr. Epstein's home? A March of -- I'm sorry, spring of '05 is when said that she went there and around, you know, the investigation is heating up with Palm Beach, so we know that in September of '05, there was a trash pull done, and in that trash pull there was a message and that was found and it stated -- it had phone number on it and it stated, for a good time call OFFICIAL RPPORTTNn SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085362 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And whose stationery was that? A It was on Jeffrey Epstein's stationery. Q And had Jeffrey Epstein been in a Palm Beach resident close to those dates? A Yes. Q Now is there evidence of telephone calls between and A Yes. Q And how many phone calls have you been able to identify? A At this time, there have been 14 phone calls. Q All right. And just to compare that to the number of phone calls with A With there was over 150 phone calls between and And that is sort of consistent with the of massages that did versus the of massages that did? It is consistent with especially the Q number number A activity that compared to the activity that provide. was providing Mr. Epstein would (Thereupon, knocking is heard at the Grand Jury door.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085363 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Let me just step out for one moment. exits the Grand Jury Room.) enters the Grand Jury Room.) Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to have to take a break now and we will be back either next week or the following week. Thank you very much. You are done for the day. (Witness was excused.) CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT ■ the Federal Grand taken before Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. A ANG OCCI, CSR #4869 Certified Co rt Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085364 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR COPY SPECIAL AGENT APPEARANCES: / TESTIMONY Ar Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, April 24, 2007 Assistant United States Attorney Foreperson OFFICIAL PFACIRTTNn CFPVT CE, LLC EFTA00085365 1 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT 2 was taken before the 3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, April 24, 6 2007. 7 Certified Court 8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 11 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn 12 testimony. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085366 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION Q Special Agent would you just remind the grand jurors who you are and who you work for? A My name is a special agent with the FBI and I work here in Palm Beach. Q Special Agent can you tell the grand jurors who will be appearing before them this afternoon? A One of our victims, who was a minor at the time that she met Mr. Epstein. And have you previously testified about OFFICIAL p7DrIPMTMr erPW CE, LLC Yes, I have. EFTA00085367 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Did you attempt to interview her? She's going to be coming in, and she is not a minor anymore, so what is her full name? A Her name is and I did attempt to interview and was interviewed by Palm Beach Police Department and because of the statements she provided to the police department, she felt as if she needed a lawyer. So when I attempted to interview her, we ended up going through her lawyer. Q And just so the grand jury has a little bit of background, the interview with the Palm Beach Police Department was quite some time ago? A Yes, it was, Q And when conversation with the pol forthcoming? A Yes, she was. Q Q interview with the police? A The police just let in the fall of '05. started that ce, she was very Fully cooperative? Yes. And what happened in the middle of that know that she could be charged because brought some of the girls to Mr. Epstein and the police -- she was OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085368 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 very cooperative, but the police at that point had to let could be 0 know that what she had done that she facing charges. And that wa•s after they had told her earlier that she didn't need an attorney present, correct? A Exactly. Okay. So this happens to her with the Palm Beach Police Department and did the Palm Beach Police actually present or propose charging Ms. A They did get a probable cause affidavit against Q And is that why Ms. and her attorney were concerned about her testimony here? A Yes. Q Now was a subpoena issued for Ms. on behalf of this grand jury? A Yes, it was. Q And before Ms. would comply with that, did she -- did her attorney request some sort of order? A Yes. Q And what did he ask for? A He asked for immunity for OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085369 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And let me show you the order, that is a sealed order in these grand jury proceedings. Now the immunity that has been provided for Ms. keeps her statements that are made here from being used against her? A Yes, it does. Q It doesn't -- if she commits perjury and she lies to the grand jury, can she still be charged? A Yes, she can. Q Okay. Could you read that? I know it is only two pages. A Sealed order, on application of the United States Attorneys for the Southern District of Florida and it appearing to the satisfaction of the court that has been called to testify and to provide other information before the United States District Court, the Southern District of Florida, including a grand jury impaneled therein. And number two, that in a judgment of the said United States Attorneys, has refused to testify and provide other information on the basis of her privilege against self incrimination. OFFICIAL REPORTINC; SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085370 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And that number three, in the judgment of the United States Attorneys, the testimony and other information from made necessary to the public interest. And number four, that the aforesaid application has been made with the approval of the Assistant Attorney General in charge of the criminal division of the Department of Justice or a duly designated acting Assistant Attorney General pursuant to the authority vested in him by Title 18, United States Code, Section 6003, and Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 0.175 and 0.132, small e. Now, therefore, it is ordered pursuant to Title 18, United States Code, Section 6002, give testimony and provide other information which she refuses to give or to provide on the basis of her privilege against self incrimination as to all matters about which she may be interrogated before said United States District Court including a grand jury impaneled therein as well as any subsequent proceeding or trial. However, no testimony or other information compelled under this order or any EFTA00085371 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 information directly or indirectly derived from such testimony or other information may be used against in any criminal case except a prosecution for perjury giving a false statement or otherwise failing to comply with this order. It is further ordered that this order shall be sealed in accordance with said Federal Regulations Criminal. BY Q Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure. A Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure, it's abbreviated, 6, little e, 6, except that a copy of this order shall be provided to counsel for the United States who may disclose the existence of the order to members of the grand jury, to the witness, to the counsel for the witness, and to law enforcement officers engaged in the investigation pending before the grand jury. Those persons may review the order, but may not retain a copy of the order nor may it disclose the existence of the order to any others. Done and ordered the 16th day of April 2007, at West Palm Beach, Florida. The United States District Judge Donald M. Middlebrook, AUSA. OFFICIAL RrPrIRTTNC: SW121/I B, LLC EFTA00085372 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q All right. So has a copy or has this document been shown to counsel for Ms. A Yes, it has. Q And to Ms. A Yes. Q And will Ms. be here this afternoon? A Yes, she will. Q Have you had a chance to sit with her? A Yes, we have. Q And she has been very forthcoming? A She's very cooperative. Q Okay. I don't have any further questions for the witness. Do you have any questions? All right. Seeing no questions, you are excused and I think that right now you are set to come back at 1 :15. How does 1 :30 sound? Is that all right? THE FOREPERSON: Fine. (Witness was excused.) OFFICIAL prnflpenTmr cc) " T CE, LLC EFTA00085373 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER , Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT taken before the Federal Grand Jury Woqt Palm Floarh Florida Certitled Codtt Reporter OFFICIAL RFPORTTNG RFIRVT E, LLC EFTA00085374 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR TESTIMONY OF COPY Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, April 24, 2007 APPEARANCES: Assistant United States Attorney roreperson OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085375 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, April 24, 2007. Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085376 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION Good afternoon, Ms. Could you state and spell your name for the record? A A address? A Florida parents A And where do you currently live? I live -- do you want me to give the Sure. kest Palm Beach, 33412. Okay. And you are living with your now? Yes. Were you served with a subpoena to appear before the grand jury today? A Yes. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085377 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And do you understand that an order was signed by a judge compelling you to appear and answer questions? A Yes. Q And that order states that what you tell the grand jury won't be used against unless you perjure yourself? A Yes. Q Do you understand that you are under oath, and if you don't tell the truth -- A I can go to jail, yes. Q Okay. Let's start with where you went to high school. A Royal Palm Beach High School. Q How old are you today? A Twenty-one. Q And what is your date of birth? A Q What year did you graduate from A Q And where are you currently working? A I currently am not working. Q But you are starting a new job? A Thursday. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085378 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Where will that be? A Fort Lauderdale, Coral Springs. Q What type of position will that be? A Waitressing. Q Have you worked since the time that you graduated from high school? A Uh-huh. Q Can you tell the grand jury what type of jobs you have had? A I worked at Q When you were in high school, where did you work? A Q And do you know Jeffrey Epstein? A Yes, I do. Q Can you tell the grand jury how you first came to meet Mr. Epstein? A I met Epstein through two acquaintances, and , and I met them at a beach resort. They made a proposition to me. Later then I picked them up and they gave me directions to the house and that's where I was formerly introduced OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085379 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to Mr. Epstein. Q Okay. And let me just go back over that a little bit. You mentioned that you had two acquaintances, and and you met them at a beach resort, correct? A Yes. Q And you said that they made a proposition to you. What was that exactly? A had asked me if I wanted to make money and she was working for this guy, Epstein, in Palm Beach. So I told her I was interested and she further went into detail about massaging him, that you would have to take off articles of clothing and there would be touching and fondling involved. Q How old were you when this happened? A About 16. Q And how old was A Same age. Q And how did you know A We went to middle school together. Q And she was in your same grade in high school? A Yeah. Q And you mentioned that had OFFICIAL RPPORTTNn SFPVTCE, LLC EFTA00085380 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 previously worked for Epstein or was currently working for Epstein? A Yes, that's right. Q So they explained this proposal to you and you said that you would be interested? A Yes. Q What happened next? A Within a couple of days to a week I picked them up and I went to his house to work for him and I was introduced to , who is his assistant. She took me upstairs to Epstein's bedroom and that's where the massage took place. I was naked and he tried fondling me and I wouldn't have it, so after the massage he gave me another proposition to bring girls to the house and for every girl that I brought I would make $200. Q All right. We'll go back over that a little more slowly. I know this is a lot of information. So let's go back to the proposition that and made to you. Did they say you would be paid for massaging Mr. Epstein? A Yes. And how much would you be paid? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085381 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A $200. Q Now you said that they had told you that you might have to take your clothing off? A They told me that I was expected to take my clothing off and that there would be fondling. Q Okay. And what -- did they explain what fondling meant? A Just that he'd be touching me. Q Okay. And so you agreed to do that and you went to Mr. Epstein's home? A Correct. Q And where was that located? A Palm Beach, Brillo Way. B-R-I-L-L-O? A Yes. Q And when you arrived at the home, you said that you were driving with and A That is correct. Q Tell us how you got into the house. A We went through a gate on the side of the house that led to the back and we just rang the doorbell and answered the door and we were standing in the kitchen and then brought me upstairs. Q Okay. Now did you have any -- did OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085382 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 tell you anything about what you would do when you got upstairs? A No, she never discussed that with me. Q Did she say anything to you about taking your clothes off? A No, she never discussed that with me. Q Okay. When you arrived upstairs, you said that you went into a bedroom? A That is correct. • Q What was in the bedroom? A It was a bedroom that had a door that led to then I want to say a bigger more than just a bathroom. It was a bigger room with like a pretty large size walk-in closet, a shower, a steam shower, and then two sinks on the right, and in the middle laid the massage table, and then to the left there was two couches. • And so the massage table was already set up when you arrived? A That is correct. Q Okay. And after led you up to the bedroom, what did she do? A She had left and that's when Epstein came in. Q Okay. And when Mr. Epstein came in, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085383 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 what was he wearing? A He was wearing a towel. Q Okay. And nothing else? A Nothing else. Q And what did he do? A He laid on the table and that's when the massage began and later on he -- when he got in, I took off my clothes and I was just wearing my bottoms, and he later tried to touch me and he grabbed my butt, and that's when I had a problem. I told him that I didn't feel comfortable. So later he took the towel off and he was laying on his back and he started to masturbate asking me to squeeze his nipples really hard to ejaculation and then after that everything was done. Q Okay. So when Mr. Epstein ejaculated then the massage or whatever was over? A Yes, it was. Q And once that happened, what did he do? A Just got up and dried himself off and then walked me downstairs. Q And you got dressed as well? A That's right. Q And when you got back downstairs, what OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085384 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 happened? A I went back into the kitchen and he pulled and aside and then we just 'l ift Of course, I got paid. Q Okay. And tell us where you got paid, who paid you, and how much you received? A Epstein paid me. I received 200, but I cannot recall if it was upstairs that he paid me or if he waited until I got back downstairs. Q Okay. And when he paid you the $200, was it in small bills, large bills? A Big bills, 100s. Q Okay. So two 100 dollar bills. And you said that he pulled -nd aside. Do you know what that was about? A He would never pay them in front of me. He always was funny about that. So I'm sure it was just paying them for bringing me. Q Okay. And you mentioned that you told Mr. Epstein that you were uncomfortable with him touching you? A That's correct. Q And what became of that? A Later on before I left he had addressed me to not massage him anymore, but asked me if I OFFICIAL RFPORTTNn RFRVT E, LLC EFTA00085385 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 could bring girls over and for every girl that I brought to the table he would pay me $200. Q Okay. So you weren't comfortable with him touching you, so you weren't going to do any more massages? A No. Q He wanted you to find other girls? A That's correct. Q And he wanted girls that would let him touch them? A Uh-huh. Q After that first massage, did you perform any other massages at his house? A Absolutely not.• Q Did you bring girls? A That's correct. Q Tell us how you started to bring girls to Mr. Epstein's house. A Just girls that I met in high school, acquaintances, people that I just said hi and bye to. A lot of them actually heard about it through a couple of girls that I brought and they were interested. Some of the girls asked me about_ it Just girls in school I'd talk to, just get on the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085386 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 subject. They had no problem with it. Q Okay. So when you found a girl that you thought would be interested, what exactly would you tell her? A I asked them if they were interested in making extra money and that I knew an older wealthier man in Palm Beach who liked to have massages and they would get paid $200 The more they did, the more they make, and I would explain to them in detail what was expected of them when they showed up at the house and I also told them that if they are under age just lie about it and tell him that you are 18 Q Let's talk first about what you said that you tell them what was expected of them. A Yes. Q First of all, why did you tell them that? A Because that's what I was told. Q By whom? A and Q Okay. And did Jeffrey Epstein ever address you about don't bring girls over here if they don't know what's going to happen? A Absolutely. OFFICIAL LLC EFTA00085387 14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. So all the girls were supposed to know that when they got there they would be undressing? A They would be undressing. There would be touching. There would be fondling. He was very big on that. He told me never to bring a girl over unless they knew what was expected. Q Okay. And did you also tell them that he would be masturbating? A I didn't really talk to them about that. I didn't know if he did it with everybody or it was just with me that he did that. Q But you told them that they all would have to be partially naked or fully naked? A Partially to fully naked and there would be touching and fondling. Q Okay. How many girls do you think you took to Mr. Epstein's house? A Seven, between seven to ten. Q Okay. And were there any -- in addition to this rule about the girls had to know what was expected, did Mr. Epstein have any other rules in terms of what the girls looked like or what he liked? A No. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085388 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. Were there girls that you brought that he didn't like? A There were a few girls he wasn't crazy about. He didn't really like. He didn't favor. for instance, 23, he thought she was kind of too old. Q Okay. So you brought a girl named who was 23 years old? A Yes. Q And you were told that she was too old? A Yes. Q Did you ever bring her back? A No. Q What about any other girls that he didn't like? A This other girl I went to high school with, she was maybe a year younger, and him and her got into an argument about money. I told her in detail what was expected and she, to me, was all for it and then when she got there, decided she didn't want to perform what was necessary. So they got into an argument about money and after that I never really brought her back. Q Okay. And did either Jeffrey Epstein OFFICIAL REPORTING' SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085389 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 or say anything to you about what happened with A He had made a comment just about -- I had asked -- he had asked me for someone to come over and work and when I suggested he kind of nodded, not really interested. He told me to find somebody else. So I assumed that meant he really didn't care for her. Q Okay. Now the -- you mentioned who was 23. What was the age range of the other girls that you brought to Mr. Epstein's home? A High school, 16 to 18. Q Were there any girls who were younger than that? A Yes. Q Who was that? A Q And how was she? A She was 14. Q Okay. Now you were interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department? A That's correct. Q And during that interview, you told them that there were two ways to make money with Jeffrey Epstein. Can you explain to the grand OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085390 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 jury what those two ways are? A The more you did is the more you make. Basically, the more clothes that come off, the more you let him touch you, the more you just let him have his way with you is the more that you would make, otherwise, you would be demoted down to bringing girls over and just making money that way. Q And that's what you were doing? A That's correct. Q Was bringing girls? A That's correct. Q If you could explain to the grand jury how you would go about making an appointment for girl to come and give a massage? A His assistant there would call me either before they got into town or while he was in town and either she would ask me for a particular girl, preferably one that he favored, or if I couldn't get a hold of that girl just bring somebody over to work. I would call the girl. She would okay it. I would call back, confirm it, set an appointment, and then the next couple of days we'd go. OFFICIAL RPPCIRTTNa cFRVT E, LLC EFTA00085391 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And was the person that you always made the appointment with? A Always. Q Do you remember ever talking to Jeffrey Epstein on the telephone? A Never. The only time I talked to him was physically in person at his house. Q Okay. was really the person that you had to -- A Deal with Q Okay. Now you mentioned that sometimes would request a specific girl? A That's correct. Q Did she give you any reason why he really liked this girl or just is this girl available? What would happen on those calls? A If it was a specific girl, she would call me and just ask: Can this girl work? She would never give me a reason. She would never go into detail. It was just: Can she work, yes or no? work? Q And was saying to you can she A I can't recall if those were her exact words. I can't remember if it was: Can she come OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085392 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 over and massage or can she work? I don't recall the exact words. Q Okay. And once you made those appointments then who would normally take you and the girls to the house? A I would. Q Okay. And you would drive? A I would drive. Q And were all -- was this always taking place at Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. On Brillo Way? A That's correct. Q When you spoke with on the telephone, did you -- were all of these conversations about setting up these appointments? A When I would talk to Q Yes. A Yes. It would be pure business whenever I talked to Q So you didn't have any sort of friendly relationship? A No friendly relationship, never socialized unless I was at the house. It wasn't like that at all. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085393 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. Now when you would bring a new girl over to the house, what would you do? A Walk up the same way towards the back of the house. They would let us in. I could sit in the kitchen with the girl. I would either wait for to come in or Jeffrey. Most of the time it was would bring the girl upstairs while I waited downstairs. After the massage, the girl would come downstairs. I would get paid and then we would leave. Q Tell us how you would get paid when you were the person who brought the girls. A What do you mean how I would get paid? Q Who would pay you? A Jeffrey Epstein would pull me aside whether it be in his, I guess, living room slash office. He would just make sure that when he paid me, it was just me and him, nobody else was around. Q And how much would you get paid for each girl? A $200. Q And again with the two 100 dollar bills? A Always 100 dollar bills. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085394 21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Did you ever see the girl who actually did the massages get paid? A No, I never saw them get paid. He never paid us in front of each other. Q Okay. Did the girls ever tell you that they did get paid or how much they got paid? A Most of the time. Q Okay. And how much money would each girl get paid? A It ranges. Q From? A It ranges from 200 to some got paid 300. Like I said, the more you do, the more you make. There were a couple of girls that got paid 300, 400, and then there were a couple of girls that got paid 200 maybe even 100. Q Now you mentioned that usually would take the girl upstairs? A That's correct. Q Were there ever instances where you took the girl upstairs? A Very rarely. I think it happened once or twice where was doing something or she would need me to go upstairs and set up. I would just go upstairs. I would show her where the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085395 22 '1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massage table was. I would set it up for them. I would show them where the towels were, put the towels on the massage table and then I would tell them Jeffrey would be in, in a minute and then I would walk back downstairs and wait in the kitchen. Q Okay. And when you were in these other instances where you led the girl upstairs, besides the massage table, did you ever see any other implements that were used during the massage? A I think there were maybe a few occasions where I would walk upstairs to show the girl or maybe it was even when I first massaged him, there was like a white massager on the table or a white vibrator. Q And can you describe that to the grand jury? A What it looked like? Q What it looked like, yes. A It was like a cylinder. It was really big. The head was bigger. It was white. I think the top of it was maybe like pink. It was big, that's all I remember. Q Okay. And did any of the girls ever tell you that that was used on them? OFFICIAL larnekomitan CODUTfln e., LLC EFTA00085396 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q names of confirm A Q Q Q A Q Yes. Okay. Now I'm going to run through the some girls that you brought just to with the grand jury that you brought them. Okay. That's correct. Correct. Correct. Yes. A Yes. Q And then there is another girl, A never, ever, ever worked for Jeffrey. She accompanied me to his house I think once or twice and waited in the kitchen with me, but she never worked for him. Q Okay. But she was somebody that you brought along with you? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085397 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A That is correct. Q On visits? A Yes. Q Okay. In addition to those girls that who I just named, you mentioned a woman, who is 23? A Uh-huh. Q Were there any other girls that you recall bringing to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A I cannot recall bringing anybody else. Q Okay. Now one of those girls that we mentioned was correct? A Yes. Q And you told the police that Jeffrey liked the best? A Yes. Q How old was A She was around the same age as me, maybe a grade lower than me. Q Okay. So she was under age? A Yes, correct. Q And all of those girls who names I read were under age when you brought them there? A Except for Q Okay. What did look like? OFFICIAL REPORTINfl SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085398 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A was Hispanic. She kind of looks Korean, but she's Hispanic, Hawaiian, maybe. She had a dark complexion. She had hair down to the middle of her back, long, highlights. Q Was she thin or heavy? A No. She was maybe -- she had a boxy type figure, maybe a little lighter than me. Q And how tall do you think she was? A About 5'S, 5'6. Q Okay. And you knew that Jeffrey liked because he would specifically request her? A There was a few occasions that he would specifically ask for her, correct. Q Okay. And you mentioned that some of the girls told you about the massager being used, correct? A Yes. Q Did some of girls tell you what happened inside of that bedroom? A A few of them did. Q Let's talk first about A Okay. Q Did she tell you what happened? A All that she really told me was that they got into a money fight. He had tried OFFICIAL pppripprmr qx-DvrcE, LLC EFTA00085399 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 fondling her. She wasn't having it, and then she only got paid $100 and she ripped off. Q Okay. What about felt like she was being , did she tell you about what happened? A Yes. Q What did she explain to you? A on the way home, had told me she got paid $300, and basically let him insert in her and use the massager on her. Q Okay. And she told you those things? A She told me those things. Q That he had her and had used the massager? A That's correct. Q Okay. And that was -- when did she tell you that? A Right when we got outside into the truck. Q As you were driving away? A That's correct. Q Do you remember which other girls told you about the massager being used? A I can't recall. I know there was another one that said something about the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085400 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 massager, but I wasn't really paying attention. Q Now when you first went and gave Mr. Epstein the massage, did he ask for your telephone number after you were finished? A No, did. Q did. And she took down your telephone number? A She took down my name and my telephone number. Q After that, how was all contact made with you? A Q Directly to you? A Directly toward me. Q Okay. So were there any more instances where she went either through-or to reach you? A Absolutely not. Q Okay. Now when you brought girls over was it the same thing where they would ask for the girl's name and number? A Yes. Q And when that happened, would they continue to go through you to set up appointments? A Most of time they went through me. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085401 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Actually 99.9 percent of the time they went through me. On a few occasions, the girls that they liked the best, for instance, after a while me and stopped contact with each other and Jeffrey just went strictly through her. Q Okay. And when an appointment was made directly with the girl, you wouldn't necessarily know about it? A I would not necessarily know about it. Q And when the appointment was made directly with the girl then you wouldn't get paid, correct? A Correct. Q Did you hear or do you know whether some girls that you brought, brought more girls? A Yeah, I'm sure of it. Q Okay. When did you first meet Was it that day that you went to give the massage? A That's correct. Q And how did you first meet her? A Just walking in the kitchen and waiting for somebody whether it be Epstein or came and introduced herself as learned that she was Epstein's assistant. and I OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085402 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22. 23 24 25 Q And you said that she was the one who took you upstairs on the first day? A That's correct. Q And we were talking earlier about how appointments would be made for you to bring additional girls, correct? A Yes. Q How far in advance would call you to make appointments? A It depends. Sometimes she would call me. a few days in advance. Jeffrey is going to be in town tomorrow or this weekend, have a couple of girls lined up or have a girl lined up. So it would be anywhere between a couple of days to a weekend. Q Okay. Did you ever talk with or did ever tell you anything about what Jeffrey liked to do with the girls? A Absolutely not. We never discussed that. Q Did you ever talk with her about a rumor that you had heard that a girl had intercourse with Jeffrey? A One day I was talking on the phone with Sarah and I addressed her with it, asking her OFFICIAL prDnI)PTWr evouTCE, LLC EFTA00085403 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 30 about a rumor I heard of a girl sleeping with Jeffrey, having intercourse, and making $1 ,000, and she denied it and said that he doesn't do that kind of thing, he just plays with them. Q Okay. So she said that he didn't have intercourse, he just liked to play with the girls? A That's correct. Q And when you spoke with the police, you said that Jeffrey liked to masturbate in front of the girls but not have sex? A That's correct. Q What led you to believe that? A He just did it. I just learned that Epstein just started masturbating in front of everybody. It was like the new thing for him, and it just started happening and more and more girls were making comments. Q So did know that he was masturbating in front of the girls? A Not that I know of. I didn't say anything and I don't think she had an idea. think she knew there was playing going on. don't think she knew of what sort. Q Okay. So she knew that something sexual was going on, but not necessarily what that OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085404 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 entailed? A Correct. Q Okay. Did Jeffrey or or anyone else who worked for Mr. Epstein ever ask you for proof of someone's age? A Never. Q Did they ever specifically instruct you that you shouldn't bring girls who were under age to the house? A Never. Q And when you spoke with the police department you said that at some point Jeffrey said the A Q but make A comment younger the better? That's correct. And even after that he never said sure that they are over 18? We never discussed age. He never about age except for that one about her being too old. He find under aged girls, but at the to you made a time never told me to go same time never said make sure they are over 18. It was never discussed. Q Okay. All right. I'm going to ask you to step outside for a minute and I will find out OFFICIAL Dfl i nPTTMO erOVTOE, LLC EFTA00085405 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 32 if the grand jury has questions. Thank you very much. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) I have to remind you that you are still under oath. There were just two follow-up questions. The first one is something that I think you spoke about earlier, but who first asked you to find other girls? A Who first asked me to first other girls? Q Yes. A That would be Epstein. Okay. So Jeffrey asked you himself, Jeffrey Epstein himself asked you? A Yes. okay. And then the other question was: Are you currently in contact with anyone who works for Mr. Epstein or himself? A I don't talk to any of the females that I once brought over there. I haven't been in contact with Epstein for years. He tried contacting me a few times. I haven't contacted him back. I refuse OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085406 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 33 to talk to him. I refuse to talk to any of the girls that were involved. However, I did live with one of the girls in Orlando for a couple months to a year. I haven't spoken to her in over a year either. Q Okay. So after -- and just so the grand jury has a sense here, we are talking about the 2004 to 2005 period is when you were bringing girls over? A That's correct. Q So since then -- A I don't -- to be honest with you, think it was more 2003, 2004. Q Okay. A My junior senior year. Q Okay. But anyhow it was a couple of years ago? A Several years ago. Q OkaY. Is there any follow up on either of those points? Yes, ma'am. A GRAND JUROR: Was it Jeffrey Epstein Qimself trying to contact you or THE WITNESS: I don't know if it was him directly. I know that his number showed up OFFICIAL ornnomtnr eroUTrE, LLC EFTA00085407 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on my house phone. I'm assuming because was there, I'm assuming that she is the one that has been trying to contact me in the past years. Epstein never talked directly me on the phone. to Any other follow up? Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you for coming. (Witness was excused.) CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Reporter and Notary Public, do , Certified Court certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. OFFICIAL trflfl,PTM1 °°°"Trr, LLC EFTA00085408 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH DIVISION COPY IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR SPECIAL AGENT APPEARANCES: Grand Jury #07-103 (WPB) West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, April 29, 2008 TESTIMONY OF ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY FOREPERSON OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085409 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, April 29, 2008. Reporter and Certified Court Notary Public, Official Reporting Service, Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, State of Florida, LLC, 524 South Andrews Florida, 33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAT Tfl""^"""T"^ ^n^nrnE, LLC EFTA00085410 a 1 2 3 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the 4 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 5 truth, so help you God? 6 THE WITNESS: I do. 7 THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 8 seated. 9 EXAMINATION 10 BY 1 1 Q Special Agent , do you have a 12 chart bearing the photographs of the victims with 13 their new and old Jane Doe Numbers? 14 A Yes, I do. 15 : Shall we pass it out to 16 the grand jury, please. 17 BY 18 Q We are going to start today with Jane 19 Doe Number 14. The Overt Acts related to Jane Doe 20 Number 14 begin on Page 22 of the proposed 21 indictment. 22 Special Agent , can you 23 remind the grand jury who is Jane Doe Number 14? 24 A Jane Doe Number 14 is a white female 25 named She was born in She OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085411 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 attende High School. Q And have you testified about her previously? A Yes, I have. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add regarding your earlier testimony? A No. Q Can you remind the grand jury of the period of time that Jane Doe Number 14 had contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A She went to Mr. Epstein's house during November 2004 through March 2005. Q And how old was she during that time frame? A Seventeen. Q Please summarize the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number 14 was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein. A Jane Doe Number 14 was asked by Mr. Epstein to pinch and rub his nipples. Mr. Epstein masturbated in Jane Doe Number 14's presence. Jane Doe Number 14 had a massager slash vibrator used on by Mr. Epstein. Mr. Epstein Jane Doe Number 14's He performed oral sex on OFFICIAL RP:PORTING SRRV CE, LLC EFTA00085412 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jane Doe Number 14. He also had sexual intercourse with Jane Doe Number 14. Q And can you just tell us briefly what Jeffrey Epstein's knowledge was of Jane Doe Number 14's age? A Jane Doe Number 14, during the times that she provided the massages, on one of those occasions she was asked her age and she told him that she was 18. On a later visit, they were talking about Jane Doe Number 14's upcoming birthday and Mr. Epstein inquired about her 18th birthday, and Jane Doe Number 14 acknowledged that that would be her upcoming birthday. Epstein actually called her on that and said: So you are not really 18 yet? And they both kind of laughed about it. And so he knew that Jane Doe Number 14 was having her upcoming birthday. Q Does your prior testimony and your testimony today cover the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 112 through 131? A Yes. A review of the phone calls indicate telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 14 as well as and OFFICIAL RFPORTTNR qFPVICE, LLC EFTA00085413 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jane Doe Number 14. A review of the carbon copy message pads recovered during the execution of the state search warrant revealed messages between Jane Doe Number 14 and Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach residence. I have one of those here and I will read it for the record, which is specifically Overt Act 126. It's a message for on January 26, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from It says, you know the number, in parentheses. And then it says, she is confirming for 5:30 p.m. And it was taken by one of Mr. Epstein's house managers. We also have the statement of Jane Doe Number 14, which as I summarized before the discussion of the age, and we also have supporting documentation to corroborate the statement such as petty cash receipts from one of the house managers where he is documented paying Jane Doe Number 14, as well as a Western Union transaction that occurred at Christmas where Mr. Epstein provided Jane Doe Number 14 with $200 as a Christmas present. Q All right. Referring to Count Eight, which is -- is the testimony that you summarized OFFICIAL REPORTTNa SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085414 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and procured Jane Doe Number 14 to engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18? A Yes. Q And referring to Count 19 is the evidence you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and used a facility in interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 14 to engage in prostitution and in a sexual activity for which a person can be charged with an offense? A Yes. Q How many telephone calls have you been able to document between John Doe Number 14 and A We have approximately 70 phone calls between and Jane Doe Number 14. Q And what about with A Approximately seven. Q And because this is a little bit different than some of the other charges in addition to alleging procurement to engage in prostitution as well as an allegation of procuring OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085415 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to engage in sexual activity for which a person can be charged with a criminal offense, what is that particular sexual activity that she and Jeffrey Epstein engaged in that also violates Florida state law? A Sexual intercourse. Q Now if you could turn to Jane Doe Number 15. Can you tell the grand jury who she is? A Jane Doe Number 15 is a white female named She was born She attended igh School. I have testified about her previously. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add regarding your previous testimony? A No. Q Please remind the grand jury during what period did Jane Doe Number 15 have contact with Jeffrey Epstein. A We have telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 15 starting on December of 2004 through October of 2005. We believe through statements that she went to Jeffrey Epstein's residence earlier than that. She stopped for a time period and then returned and that's when we have the phone calls OFFICIAL RFPnRTTNC: qFRVirF, LLC EFTA00085416 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 starting up. Q Now during this period of the phone calls, how old was Jane Doe Number 15? A She was 17. Q All right. Up until her birthday, correct? A Yes. Q Did the phone contact continue after she turned 18? A Yes. As I mentioned, the phone calls continued to October of 2005 and she turned 18 in June. Q Please summarize the sexual activity that she was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein. A Epstein requested Jane Doe Number 15 to pinch his nipples. Mr. Epstein would fondle and pinch Jane Doe Number 15's nipples. Mr. Epstein also engaged in masturbation in front of Jane Doe Number 15. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number 15's Epstein also 15's and Mr. Jane Doe Number Q Does your prior testimony and your testimony here today cover the evidence and the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085417 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 allegations in Overt Acts 132 to 148 and Overt Act 175? A Yes. A review of the phone records indicate telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 15 as well as and Jane Doe Number 15. We also have the review of the carbon copy message pads that were recovered in the state search warrant, in the execution of the state search warrant, which revealed the message from to Epstein, and I have that. Specifically Overt Act 175, and it's for Jeffrey Epstein. The date is October 1 , 2005, at 9:50 a.m. The message is from and the message reads, 7onfirmed at 11 :00 a.m. and at 4 p.m. And is it signed by one of Mr. Epstein's house managers. We also have reviewed the evidence which was obtained in a trash pull that was conducted at Mr. Epstein's residence by the Palm Beach Police Department in April of 2005 where a piece of paper was recovered in the trash, which is Overt Act 147. It reads, 10:30, Friday around 2:00. And then there's a 3 on OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085418 1 1 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 underneath it on Mr. Epstein's stationery. We have the statements from Jane Doe Number 15 as well as other witnesses. Q Now with respect to Mr. Epstein's knowledge of Jane Doe Number 15's age, have you testified about that previously? A Yes, I have. Q And let me hand you two transcripts. One is of your testimony on March 20, 2007, and the second is May 15, 2007. If you would just read those for the grand jury. A The first one from Tuesday, March 20, 2007, on page 17, starting on line 4. (Thereupon, the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT taken on Tuesday, March 20, 2007, before Grand Jury 07-103 was read into the record as follows:) Question. Okay. And what did she say were some of the topics of discussion? Answer. Mr. Epstein asked her questions about herself, asked her if she was a soccer player or that -- Jeffrey knew that she was a soccer player and asked questions about her college, about where she was going to school. is currently going to Lynn OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085419 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 University, and she had advised Mr. Epstein that she would be attending college at Lynn University. Question: So that was a -- but that was her future plan? Answer. Yes. Question. So in other words, did Mr. Epstein know the time? Answer. Beach Police asked her age and that she was in high school at Yes, he did. And the Palm if Jeffrey knew told the Palm Beach Police Department, he didn't care what my age was. (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript concluded.) THE WITNESS: Testimony from Tuesday, May 15, 2007, page 4, line 19. (Thereupon, the testimony of taken on Tuesday, May 15, 2007, before Grand Jury 07-103 was read into th' record as follows:) Question. And just briefly can you remind the grand jury, did Mr. Epstein her age? ever tell OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085420 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Answer. No, they did not ever discuss -- she did not tell him how old she was, but she did tell him where she planned on going to school and that she was in soccer. She stated that when it came to her age that Mr. Epstein didn't care As I mentioned earlier, and (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript was interrupted.) THE WITNESS: Which is old Jane Doe Number Four, and that is not in here. Starting at line 24 (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript continued.) Answer. She stated that when it came to her age that Mr. Epstein mentioned earlier, very good friends and ■ about and Mr. Epstein would ask when didn't care. As I were would talk about questions was providing massages, and as we will talk about when we talk about Jane Doe Number Four, which is she told Mr. Epstein that she was a junior in high school and that and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085421 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 her were in the same classes together and that they were very good friends. And told us that at one point had come to her because she had slipped about prom, and she was worried because Epstein was supposed to think she was 18 and she had talked about the prom, an said she never heard anything else about it and they never brought it up. Question. Because according to Mr. Epstein didn't care really how old the girls were? Answer. Exactly. Question. And she never mentioned he asked her for her age or asked for any form of identification to show whether she was or was not over 18? Answer. No. (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript concluded.) Q Referring to Count Number Nine is the evidence you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and procured Jane Doe Number 15 to engage OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085422 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under Q And if I could refer you to Count 20. Is the evidence you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 15 to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q How many telephone calls have you been able to document between Jane Doe Number 15 and A We have over 125 phone calls between and Jane Doe Number 15. Q And how many telephone calls between Jane Doe Number 15 and Ross? A Twenty-five approximately. Q Now if we could turn to Jane Doe Number 16 and could you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number 16 is? A Jane Doe Number 16 is a white female named She was born in and she attended High School. Q Have you testified about her before? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085423 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add regarding your earlier testimony? A No. Q Please remind the grand jury of the period of time during which Jane Doe Number 16 was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number 16, we have telephonic phone calls beginning February of 2005 through October of 2005. Q And how old was Jane Doe Number 16 during that period? A She was 17. Q Please summarize the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number 16 was involved with, with Jeffrey A Epstein. Jane Doe Number 16, Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number 16. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number 16's Mr. Epstein had Jane Doe Number 16 watch as Epstein engaged in , which Mr. and and buttocks in front sexual activity with Epstein also had r ondle each other breasts from Mr. Epstein. OFFICIAL ornnomTmn erour E, LLC EFTA00085424 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein had sexual intercourse with Jane Doe Number 16 for which Mr. Epstein offered and paid Jane Doe Number 16 more money which was 300 to $350. Q Did Jane Doe Number 16 recruit anyone to go to Jeffrey Epstein's home? A She did. Jane Doe Number 16 took a white female by the name of who was over the age of 18. She also brought Jane Doe Number 17. Q And before we get to that, can you remind the grand jury who recruited Jane Doe Number 16 to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A Jane Doe Number 16 -- if you can hold on one second -- was recruited by Jane Doe Number Nine. Q And the last time we were here, you testified about Jane Doe Number Nine? A Yes, I did. Q And you testified Overt Act Number 90, which was a payment that Jeffrey Epstein made to Jane Doe Number Nine for recruiting Jane Doe Number 16 to his home? A Yes. Q Now you mentioned that Jane Doe Number OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085425 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 16 also recruited someone who you referred to as Jane Doe Number 17. Can you tell the grand jury who that is? A Jane the name of she attended Q Have A No. Q Has she been interviewed? A Yes. Q During what period of time did Jane Doe Number 17 have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number 17 began her contact in February of 2005 and went to Mr. Epstein's house on two occasions. Q How old was she during that time frame? A Sixteen. Q And how did she meet Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number 16 brought Jane Doe Number 17 to Mr. Epstein's residence. They went, as I mentioned earlier, only twice did Jane Doe Number 17 go. Jane Doe Number 16 went much more than that. Doe Number 17 is a white female by She was born in and High School. you testified about her previously? But Jane Doe Number 17 was taken there twice by Jane Doe Number 16. Jane Doe Number 16 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085426 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and Jane Doe Number 17 performed a massage together wearing only their underwear. After a while during the massage, Mr. Epstein requested that Jane Doe Number 16 wait downstairs. Jane Doe Number 16 got dressed and left. Jane Doe Number 17 continued the massage. Mr. Epstein began to masturbate. Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number 17, $200. Jane Doe Number 17 stated that Jane Doe Number 16 had also received money for that day. Jane Doe Number 17 went back to Mr. Epstein's house approximately a month later. This time Mr. Epstein requested that Jane Doe Number 17 perform the massage completely nude. He used a vibrator on Jane Doe Number 17's vagina and masturbated until he ejaculated and then the massage was over. Q How much was Jane Doe Number 17 paid? A She was paid $200. Q And you mentioned that she was 16 during the time of these massages? A Yes. Q Did Jane Doe Number 17 recruit anyone to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A No. OFFICIAL PrDnoTTvr Q"/"ICE, LLC EFTA00085427 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Does your prior testimony and the testimony here today cover the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 90 and 149 through 181? A Yes. A review of the phone records indicate telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 16, which also includes multiple text messages from to Jane Doe Number 16. and Jane Doe Number 16 and also telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 16. Regarding Jane Doe Number 17, we have telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 16 and Jeffrey Epstein's residence and Jane Doe Number 16. Followed by telephonic contact between Jane Doe Number 16 and Jane Doe Number 17. Q Let me interrupt you just a second, Special Agent So in other words, because Jane Doe Number 16 is the person who brought Jane Doe Number 17 those two times where the records show contact from someone from Epstein's group to Jane Doe Number 16 immediately followed by a phone call to Jane Doe Number 17? A Yes. OFFICIAL PrPORTINC SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085428 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 21 Q Okay. Sorry. Please continue. A We also have carbon copy messages. message pad. It was recovered during the execution of a state search warrant which indicates contact between Jane Doe Number 16 and Epstein's employee. Specifically Overt Act 175 and Overt Act 178, and I will get those and read those. Overt Act 175 is what I read previously regarding Jane Doe Number 15, but I will read it again. It is for Jeffrey Epstein, dated October 1st, 2005, at 9:50 a.m. The message is from . The message says, confirmed at 1 1 a.m. and 4 p.m. It's signed by a house manager of Mr. Epstein's. Overt Act 178 is a message for Jeffrey Epstein, dated 10-2-2005. The time is 9:05 p.m. I'm sorry. Strike that. It's a message for Jeffrey Epstein, dated October 3rd, 2005, at 4:10 p.m. The message is for and the message is, will be a half hour late. It's signed by Mr. Epstein's house manager. Q Is it for or it's from OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085429 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 22 A It is taken by Mr. Epstein's house manager, . The "For" line is addressed to Jeffrey Epstein and then the "M" line says called and left that message for Jeffrey Epstein? A Calling Q Right. Referring to Count Ten, does the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and procured Jane Doe Number 16 to engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18? A Yes. The only other thing I'd like to say is that we did obtain through the trash pull that the Palm Beach Police Department conducted in April of 2005, there was a computer printout of messages for Mr. Epstein which showed us a message from which read, can work tomorrow at 4 p.m. This is listed as Overt Act 162, and then we also have the statements of both Jane Doe Numbers 16 and 17. Q Can you remind the grand jury about how Jeffrey Epstein knew Jane Doe Number 16's age and whether he did anything in recognition of her age? A Jane Doe Number 16 told Jeffrey Epstein OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085430 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 23 she was 17, and Mr. Epstein also provided Jane Doe Number 16 with Victoria Secret lingerie for her upcoming 18th birthday. Q All right. And if we could refer to Count 21 . Is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 16 to engage in prostitution and in sexual activity for which a person can be charged with an offense? Q And can you remind the grand jury what the sexual activity is that Mr. Epstein could be charged with under the state law? A Sexual intercourse. Q All right. And how many telephone calls have you been able to document between Jane Doe Number 16 and A We have 50 -- over 50 calls with and Jane Doe Number 16. We have approximately 25 calls with and Jane Doe Number 16. We have one call between and Jane Doe Number 16. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085431 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And with respect to there is also the actual sexual activity that she engaged in with Jane Doe Number 16? A Yes. Q Okay. And referring to Count Number 22, is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 17 to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q Now if we could turn to Jane Doe Number Seven. A GRAND JUROR: Jane Doe Number? MS. VILLAFANA: Seven. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Who is Jane Doe Number Seven? A Jane Doe Number Seven is a white female by the name of She was born in She attended High School. Q Have you testified about her before? A No. Q All right. So has she been interviewed? A Yes. OFFICIAL RFPORTINf qpRVICE, LLC EFTA00085432 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And during what period of time did Jane Doe Number Seven have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? During the months of June and July of Q How old was she at that time? A Sixteen. Q How did she meet Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number Seven was taken to Mr. Epstein's residence by a white female named and we have talked about in my previous testimony. at that time was 15 years old. and Jane Doe Number Seven arrived at Mr. Epstein's residence for the first time by taxi. The first time Jane Doe Number Seven was taken there, Epstein, and Jane Doe Number Seven went upstairs. Mr. Epstein took them from the kitchen upstairs to his master bedroom to where the bathroom was where the massages were performed. Both and Jane Doe Number Seven began massaging Mr. Epstein. At Mr. Epstein's direction, left the room after some time. Jane Doe Number Seven continued the massage. Jane Doe Number Seven was OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC 25 EFTA00085433 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 wearing only her underwear at this time. The massage turned sexual where at this point Mr. Epstein was touching Jane Doe Number Seven's )ut on the outside of her underwear. Mr. Epstein masturbated and then the massage was over. Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Seven, $200, and Mr. Epstein told Jane Doe Number Seven that if she told anybody what had occurred that bad things could happen to her. Jane Doe Number Seven went to Mr. Epstein's house approximately two or three more times after that. Q And how was contact made with Jane Doe Number Seven? A would telephone Jane Doe Number Seven. Q To set up appointments? A Yes. Q And can you summarize the sexual activity that she was involved in with Jeffrey Epstein? A Mr. Epstein instructed Jane Doe Number Seven to rub his chest and nipples. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number Seven. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC 26 EFTA00085434 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein told Jane Doe Number Seven to remove her bra and panties on one of the subsequent visits, and at that point, Mr. Epstein stroked Jane Doe Number Seven's vagina. Q Did Jane Doe Number Seven recruit anyone to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A Yes, she did. The name of the girl is and we have not fully identified her nor have we interviewed her. Q All right. Did recruit anyone else to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A Yes. Q And how do we refer to that person or the person wh n ndictment that was recruited by A As Jane Doe Number Eight. Q And just for the grand jury's purpose, when the initials are used in that indictment, who does that refer to? A Q Okay. Now turn to Jane Doe Number Eight. Can you tell the grand jury who she is? A Jane Doe Number Eight is a white female by the name of . She was born in She attended Palm Beach Central High OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085435 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 28 School. I have not previously testified about Q During what period of time did she have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A July 2004 through October of 2004. Q And how old was she during that time? A Seventeen. Q How did she meet Jeffrey Epstein? A Through . Jane Doe Number Eight was taken to Mr. Epstein's residence by who again was still 15 years old at the time. They traveled to Mr. Epstein's residence by taxi. During the massage, Jane Doe Number Eight was wearing a sports bra, a skirt, and thong underwear. The massage turned sexual. Mr. Epstein masturbated until he ejaculated. Prior to that, Mr. Epstein moved Jane Doe Number Eight's underwear to the side and rubbed her vagina. Approximately one week later, telephoned Jane Doe Number Eight and invited her to return. told Jane Doe Number Eight that Mr. Epstein would pay her if she brought a friend. Q How much was Jane Doe Number Eight paid? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085436 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ) A Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Eight two or $300. She could not recall exactly. Tatum was also paid $200 for bringing Jane Doe Number Eight, and Tatum also told Jane Doe Number Eight that if she brought someone she would be paid $200. Q Now you mentioned that there was telephone contact directly with Jane Doe Number Eight after that first visit. Approximately how many times did Jane Doe Number Eight go to Mr. Epstein's house? A Q was there Just that time. And in addition to stroking her any other specific sexual activity that she was involved with, with Mr. Epstein? A As I think I mentioned, he masturbated in the presence of Jane Doe Number Eight. Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number Eight's bottom and pulled Jane Doe Number Eight's underwear to the side and stroked her at that time. Q Now you said that Jeffrey Epstein told Jane Doe Number Eight that she would get paid if she brought other people. Did she bring anyone else? A No. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085437 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And is your testimony today the basis for the allegations in Overt Acts 46 through 65? A Yes. The only other thing I'd like to mention is that there are approximately nine calls between and Jane Doe Number Eight, and Jane Doe Number Eight stated that would continue to call her to try to get her to come. Q How did that phone contact end? A I would like to refer to my notes. Q Sure. A Jane Doe Number Eight told that she had moved out of the state to get to stop calling and that's how the phone contact ended. Q And could you just review Overt Act Number 59, which refers to a written telephone message? A Overt Act 59 refers to the message pads that were recovered during the execution of the state search warrant. Overt Act 59 is a message that is written out for Mr. Epstein, dated July 17, 2004, at 6:55. It looks like there is a mark through a.m. So I'm not sure if it's 6:55 a.m. I believe OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085438 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that would be 6:55 p.m, and they are marking a.m. out, but just for the record, it shows a mark through a.m. It says, There's a phone number there, The message is in a quote and it says, me and can come tomorrow any time or alone. And one of Mr. Epstein's employees had signed the bottom. Q And is a number that you have identified with A Yes, it is. Q If I can refer you to Counts 13 and 14. Is your testimony here today the basis for the allegation in Count 13 that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility or means of interstate commerce, that is, a telephone, to knowingly persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Seven to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q And is it also the basis for the allegation in Count 14 that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility or means of interstate commerce, that is, a telephone to knowingly persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Eight to engage in prostitution? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085439 32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q All right. A Would you like the approximate phone calls? Q Yes. A The approximate phone calls for Jane Doe Number Seven between Jane Doe Number Seven and are eight, and the approximate phone calls between and Jane Doe Number Eight is approximately nine. • All right. to cover for today. That is what we planned Hold on. Sorry. All right. I forgot one thing. Q With respect to the girls that you testified about today, 14 through 17, and seven and eight, is there any evidence related to any by any of those girls? Number 16. She has a with Jane Doe And also in regards to their I believe she was housed at the OFFICIAL EPOR-ING SFRV CE, LLC EFTA00085440 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We are still checking on that. Jane Doe Number Seven during her interview she told us that when she went to Mr. Epstein's house, she would take that we are aware of with Jane Doe Number Seven. Q And with respect to Jane Doe Number 16 was she able to tell you when she was in comparison to the time that she was spending with Mr. Epstein? A I know that when we interviewed Jane Doe Number 16, she told us that he was not aware of her problem. So I would like to go back and re-read that interview before I make that comment. Q Okay. But with respect to all of the girls, including the two that you just spoke about have you been able to independently corroborate their statements? A Yes, I have, and specifically with those two girls, Jane Doe Number 16, we have the telephone records. We have the message pads. We have the trash pulls. We have the statements from the other Jane Does. It's much the same with Jane Doe Number Seven through the statements of and other Jane Does, message pads, the telephone phone OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085441 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 records. We have been able to corroborate their statements. Q Okay. BY If I could ask you to step outside for a moment and I will find out if the grand jury has any more questions. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) Q Special one of the questions asked by a grand juror was whether any of the girls, any of the Jane Does listed in the indictment have been charged or will be charged either by the Federal Government or the State Attorney's Office for solicitation of prostitution? A No. Q Okay. Then there was also a question about your testimony regarding the threat that was placed on the Jane Doe that if anything happened to her -- or if she said anything something bad would happed to her. Do you have any other evidence related to threats made to any of the Jane Does? OFFICIAL RVP(IRmTNa cwPvtcE, LLC EFTA00085442 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A No. This specific Jane Doe, she was upset. She thought she was going there to model lingerie or perform a massage. When it turned into more than that, she was upset by that. I think she -- I believe she told us she wanted to report it and she was discouraged not only by nut by Mr. Epstein and he stated that to her on one occasion, and I believe I have more. I would have to go and read it if they would like to hear more about some of the other remarks that Mr. Epstein made to her. A GRAND JUROR: I would. THE WITNESS: Jane Doe Number Seven was told by Epstein that she was not to tell anyone what had happened during the massages. He told her that she could not tell anyone what happened at the house or bad things could happen. was very scared and felt nervous. She knew because of Epstein's money, he was powerful. Each time she went, she was reminded not to speak of what happened at the house and that she would be contacted again. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085443 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Stated she wanted to notify the police at what happened at the house. Stated she was scared of what could happen to her and her family if she notified the authorities. This was taken from my 302 as well as the Palm Beach Police report. BY Q Okay. A statement provided by Jane Doe Number Seven. When you referred in your testimony to that is Jane Doe Number Seven? A I'm sorry. Q That's okay. It is just so they know. Special Agent , are you aware of any general Federal child predator law? A A general? General in? Q Well, one of the grand juror asked whether he could be charged with being a child predator. Are you aware of any Federal law that covers that? A No. Q All right. Those were all of the questions for you. If you could step outside. There is a question for her? A GRAND JUROR: Yeah. I don't know if OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085444 37 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 it's for you or for her. I am just curious if he has been incarcerated or if he is still loose? THE WITNESS: He has not been incarcerated. : All right. THE WITNESS: Not in the federal system. BY Q Well, he is not in custody? A No, and he is not in custody in the state system. Yes. A GRAND JUROR: Well, I was wondering if there is a lot of underlying shame involved with, you know, that they felt like if people found out, you know, if he was using that on them too, you know, being in shame? THE WITNESS: Do you want me to answer? Okay. THE WITNESS: I don't think that Mr. Epstein used that approach. I think there has been a lot of shame when we have interviewed the girls as to what occurred, but I don't think Mr. Epstein's approach was to shame the girls. OFFICIAL RPPORTTNr SWPVICE, LLC EFTA00085445 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY Okay. Thank you. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) Q Special Agent we have three more questions. The first is: Do you have any evidence that this conduct is continuing? A No, not at this time, I don't have any evidence. Q I'm sorry? A I don't have any evidence. Q Okay. Do you have -- do you know whether Mr. Epstein or anyone else has been charged by the State of Florida in connection with his activities? A Yes, Mr. Eps.tein has been. Q What has he been charged with? A Solicitation of prostitution with three counts of solicitation of prostitution. Q And in the charges that have been brought against him is there any reference to the fact that these, quote, unquote, prostitutes were under the age of 18? A None whatsoever. OFFICIAL nrIMATMTWffl fl nn"-CE, LLC EFTA00085446 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And the last question was: Why haven't the minors been charged with solicitation of prostitution? Let me break that into two questions. Does the Federal Government prosecute minors as a rule? A Not usually. Q Then with respect to the state, do you know whether or why the minors haven't been charged? A No, I don't know. Q Okay. All right. MS. That's all. Thank you. (Witness was excused.) CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT 39 , taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. Certified Court Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085447 Page 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR APPEARANCES: , ESQUIRE Federal Grand Jury, 07-103 West Palm Beach, Florida May 8, 2007 Assistant United States Attorney Foreperson TESTIMONY OF EFTA00085448 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 2 The sworn testimony of was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. Court Reporter, was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. EFTA00085449 Page 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (The witness entered the grand jury room.) having been duly sworn by the grand jury foreperson, was examined and testified on her oath as follows: EXAMINATION BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Could you start by reminding us of your name and where you're employed. A I work for the FBI here in West Palm Beach on their Q And you are one of the case agents in Operation Leap Year? A Yes, I am. Q Did you recently participate in an interview of A Yes. Q Can you tell us date of birth? A was born o Q And you spoke with her recently? A Yes, we did. Q So she was 18 at the time of the interview? A Yes, I believe she was. Q Who is 1 ? A was identified by the Palm Beach db. EFTA00085450 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 4 Police Department as one of the girls who had frequented Mr. Epstein's house. Q How exactly did the Palm Beach Police Department determine that she was one of those girls? A When they did their search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence, some message pads were obtained at his residence, and they had several calls from a girl named and phone numbers. So they were able to track back those messages back to Q Did the Palm Beach Police Department try to interview Miss A They did. Q Did she agree to speak with them? A No. She stated that she loved Jeffrey Epstein, and that she would not say anything positive or negative about what occurred. Q After the FBI became involved in this investigation, did you try to interview Miss A We did, as well, with no such luck, as well. Q How long ago was it that you first made contact with Miss A It was back in November of '06. Q Did you try to serve her with a subpoena issued on behalf of this grand jury? A Yes, we did. EFTA00085451 1 2 3 Page Q What happened? A She refused service of the grand jury subpoena. But she was notified of when her appearance was expected 4 here, and a subpoena was left with her. 5 6 Q A After that, did she obtain an attorney? Yes, she did. 7 Q Who was that? A He's a well-known defense 9 attorney here in West Palm Beach. 10 Q Who paid for that attorney? 11 A Mr. Epstein is paying for attorney. 12 Q Now once Miss "secured the attorney, did 13 she agree to be interviewed? 14 A Yes, she did, after she was granted 6001 15 immunity. She requested immunity. 16 Q Did the justice department authorize that grant 17 of immunity? 18 A Yes, they did. 19 After that, did she agree to be interviewed? 20 A Yeah. It was only after she was given that 21 immunity that she would talk with us. 22 When did the interview take place? 23 A It took place at the end of April of this year, 24 so just a few weeks ago. 25 Q Who was present at that interview? 5 EFTA00085452 Page 6 1 A Myself; my partner, agent ; the AUSA, 2 ; her attorney, Jim Eisenberg, and his 3 investigator; as well as M 4 Q What did Miss tell you about Jeffrey 5 Epstein? 6 A She stated that she had met an individual by the 7 name of at a party who had asked her if she 8 wanted to make a few bucks by giving a man a massage. She 9 was told that Mr. Epstein preferred them to be topless, 10 and she agreed to go to his house to give him a massage. 11 Q How old did Miss tell you she was at that 12 time? 13 A She stated she was 16 when she first started 14 giving Mr. Epstein massages. 15 Q Based upon your review of the evidence, is that 16 correct? 17 A No. We have phone records where 18 (phonetic), Mr. Epstein's assistant, is contacting 19 on her cell phone, or using her cell phone to call 20 cell phone starting in April of 2004, which makes 21 15. 22 Q So she said that she was 16, but your evidence 23 shows that she was 15, and she said that she was told she 24 could make a few bucks giving a topless massage? 25 A Yes. EFTA00085453 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q what else did Miss tell you? Page 7 A That she went to Mr. Epstein's residence, that took her there the first time, that when she went upstairs she was paid $200 when she first got there by Sara Kellin. Then she goes upstairs, and Mr. Epstein comes in, he disrobes, puts on a towel, lays down on the massage table and she begins to massage him. She tells Epstein that she heard he likes topless massages, and he told her that he did. And she said, •Who wouldn't?• And she ended up taking off her top during the first massage. But is clear that Mr. Epstein did not at any point touch her during the massage. Q But does she admit that he touched himself? A Yes. On the second massage, Mr. Epstein asked her to leave her phone number with Her phone number was left there. On the second massage, she returned the very next day and gave him another massage. This time, Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of her. Q Did Miss admit that he masturbated on more than one occasion in her presence? A Yes, masturbated. And I think her term was that he •released,' meaning that he ejaculated. Q How long of a period of time did Miss tell you that she performed massages? A She wasn't able to give us a number of massages, EFTA00085454 1 2 giving him massages for a year. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 8 but just said that it was a lot, and that she had been Q You mentioned to the grand jury that Miss said that Mr. Epstein never touched her, correct? A Yes. Q And she was very adamant about that? A Yes, she was. Q Were there other things that she was adamant about in her interview with you? A Well, she talked about what she would tell the girls that -- and that she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18. I'm sorry, I take that back. She was told to say that she was 18, and she told us that she had a fake I.D. showing that she was 18. So she passed that information along to the other girls when she brought -- eventually she brought other girls to perform massages, and that was one of the things that she told -- she told us first that she brought 18- to 20-year old girls. And then she stated that if the girls lied, and they were underage, she told them that they needed to tell Epstein that they were 18. Q Have you been able to identify some of the girls that Miss brought to Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. Q Were any of those girls over 18? EFTA00085455 1 2 3 Page 9 A No, not that we found so far. Q Have any of the girls told investigators about what Mr. Epstein knew about their ages? 4 A I'm sorry, say that again. 5 Q Have any of the girls who came through 6 been interviewed about what Mr. Epstein knew about 7 their ages? 8 A We did interview them regarding that, and I'm 9 not sure if he asked them. They were all told to say they 10 were 18, but not on every occasion would Mr. Epstein 11 inquire about their age. 12 Q Do you want to check your records on that? 13 A Yes, could I do that? 14 Q YeS, please do. 15 A I can tell you that one of the girls that she 16 brought -- this girl told Mr. Epstein that she was in high 17 school, and actually told him her true age, which was 18 under 18. 19 Q So what told you about, that wasn't 20 really the case? 21 A No, that wasn't. Sorry. 22 Q That's all right, I just wanted to make sure 23 it's clear. 24 So Miss told you that she had been told 25 to say she was 18, and she also told you that she had a EFTA00085456 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 10 fake I.D.? A Yes. Q Did she ever say that Mr. Epstein either asked for her age or asked to see her I.D.? A No, the topic never came up. Q Did you also ask her about how appointments were made? A that Yes. She was very clear in the fact that would call her to arrange the appointments, but would call her once Jeffrey was in town. Q So she was adamant that the calls only happened when she was already here? A Yes. • Were you made aware that Epstein's counsel was informed that he was being investigated for traveling to engage in prostitution, which means that the appointments would have been made before the traveling? A Yes. Q Was there anything else, besides the issue of age and the issue of when the appointments were made, that sounded A about which girls he would like Once coached or that she was especially adamant about? No, I wouldn't say coached. I mean, we talked the preferences that Jeffrey discussed, as far as o bring. tarted giving massages to Epstein, EFTA00085457 1 2 3 4 5 Page 11 told us that he liked different faces, so he would to bring other girls. We asked her if he ever preferences of what he preferred, and her was that Epstein liked girls like her, which is blond and attractive. ask her gave any response thin and 6 Q And how old was she at the time? 7 A She was 15. 8 Q So thin, blonde, attractive and -- 9 A Young, girls like her. I guess we asked if she 10 ever made a mistake, or ever brought somebody that Mr. 11 Epstein didn't take to. She said that she had screwed up 12 and that she had brought a black girl to Mr. Epstein, and 13 that Epstein was not interested in black girls. But he 14 did pay her, and said that he wasn't a racist. He paid 15 her the $200 for her time, but did not want her to perform 16 a massage for him. 17 Q And he didn't allow that girl to perform a 18 massage? 19 A No. 20 Q Was there anything else that Miss talked 21 about in the interview that you want to share with the 22 grand jury? 23 A I did ask her at the end of the interview if she 24 was in love with Mr. Epstein. She looked into the camera 25 and said that she loved him like a friend. But then she EFTA00085458 1 1 2 3 4 Page 12 kind of looked into the camera and gave a wink and a smile and said, "But with your money, I'd marry you any time, Jeffrey." Q Did she also say that she considered him to be 5 an "awesome guy"? 6 A Several times she referred to him as an "awesome 7 guy". She said that the girls begged her to come and that 8 the girls didn't have a complaint, and the girls would 9 share with her everything that happened after the massage, 10 and that Jeffrey never touched any of the girls. But as I 11 informed you, we did interview some of the girls that she 12 took, and he has touched them. 13 Q In preparation for your testimony today, did you 14 also speak with someone who is considered to be an expert 15 in these cases? 16 A Yes. 17 Q And what is that person's name? 18 A 19 Q Has Mr. been qualified to testify as an 20 expert in federal and state courts in cases that involve 21 what he calls "compliant victims"? 22 A Yes. 23 Q What does he mean by the term "compliant 24 victims"? 25 A A compliant victim is when a victim is not —...nonesmomma. EFTA00085459 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 13 necessarily forced into the conduct that the offender wants them to engage into, that they actually consent to that kind of activity. Q So that would include minors who are subjected to sexual activity but weren't necessarily kidnapped or forced at gunpoint, or something like that? A Exactly. • Did he discuss with you the difficulties that exist when you interview those types of victims? A Yes. He stated that a compliant victim is often times embarrassed that they went along with the behavior. They are also likely to deny the behavior, especially when being interviewed by investigators, that they'll deny it or they'll minimize it. Sometimes it takes two, three or multiple interviews to get compliant victims to either trust their interviewer or realize that their interviewer is not going to be judgemental. Q In this case, have you found that to be the case with some of the interviews? A Yes, I have. Q In addition to being embarrassed, sometimes these victims feel guilty about the fact that they were involved in this type of activity? A Oh, yes. Q Does Mr. also have expertise in sexual EFTA00085460 Page 14 1 preference of offenders? 2 A Yes, he does. 3 Q Did he explain why an offender would select the 4 types of victims that are involved in this case, girls 5 between 14 and 17-years-old? 6 A This type of offender, the sexual preference he 7 has is for post-pubescent females that are physically 8 developed but not necessarily mentally matured. The girls 9 ranging in this age are sometimes inexperienced, they are 10 possibly naive, not as worldly. 11 An offender of this type could also maybe not 12 feel sexually adequate or feel competent dealing with his 13 own age group. So knowing that these girls are less 14 experienced, may focus on them as well. 15 Q In addition to their emotional immaturity, did 16 Mr. Lanning talk about whether or not younger girls are 17 easier to manipulate than grown women? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Did he talk to you about 'grooming•? 20 A Yeah. That's what an offender will use with a 21 compliant victim. He told us that grooming is a technique 22 where you gain the cooperation of those victims by 23 focusing on their interests and playing up to those 24 interests. It's a type of seduction, he called it. That 25 was his words for it. And we actually see this in this EFTA00085461 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 15 case. Q Can you give us an example of some of the types of grooming that Mr. Epstein used? A With one of the girls we're going to talk about today, it's very apparent interviewing her how Epstein groomed her. She only went to three or four massages at this time, that she's admitted to. We feel that due to her phone conversations, the multiple calls, that there may be more there. At this point she has stated to us that she has performed three or four massages for Mr. Epstein. What he did is when she first went there he played upon -- she was very shy, and he would play upon that shyness. He told her that she was pretty. He asked her to remove her clothing, and she would not. So he kind of kidded around with her shyness and complimented her, showed interest in her, talked about her boyfriend and different interests she had. At the end of that interview, because she did not take off her clothes, he tells her that if she's willing to do more, she will make more. He also tells her that he would pay her if she would bring other girls. As the massages increased, you can see that the next time she comes he plays again to that shyness, but he gets a little bit more -- I guess he sees that it's not working. This EFTA00085462 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Page 16 time she does comply and takes off her he asked her to disrobe on the second massage. She takes off her blouse, but she refuses to take off the bra after Mr. Epstein asked her to. So you can see that he tries through showing interest. And then he actually -- when he sees that this isn't working, he takes a more authoritative role with her in the last massage. She said that throughout all of these massages he was very nice, and then at the end he 10 was much more frustrated and irritated. She does get down 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 where every time they went back, he tried to push it one 20 step further and one step further? 21 A Yes. Several of the girls have said that he 22 would always push for more and more. 23 24 compliant child victim cannot legally consent to the 25 to her bra and panties on that one, he's just much more authoritative. So he started with the grooming process, tried to get her interest, tried to use that to get her to comply with removing her clothes. But as often happens, at the end of this, he took over and was much more forceful with his requests. Q Have other girls described that same situation Q Did Mr. Lanning explain why it is that a sexual conduct? EFTA00085463 1 Page 17 1 A Yeah. He stated that -- you know, we talked 2 about how the law protects children, and stated that we 3 hold adults accountable. When it comes to adolescents, 4 they go through normal tendencies that mature offenders 5 may try to take advantage of. But the law is in place for 6 that reason, to protect -- in the federal law, to protect 7 those individuals under the age of 18. 8 Q And that's because of the different maturity 9 levels of the -- 10 A The offender versus the victims, exactly. 11 Q Did you put together the photographs of the 12 defendants in this case? 13 A Yes, I did. 14 Q Are these photographs of the four human 1 5 defendants who are named in the proposed indictment? 16 A Yes. 17 Q With their names underneath them? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Agent, who is in the top left-hand corner? 20 A That's Jeffrey Epstein. 21 Q When was this photograph taken? 22 A Recently. There was an article that just came 23 out regarding Mr. Epstein and his connection, or his 24 personal relationship with Prince Andrew, and that was a 25 picture that was in that article. EFTA00085464 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 18 Who is in the top right-hand corner? A That's Q Again, this is a relatively recent photograph? A Yes, that's his personal assistant. • And the bottom left-hand corner? A Again, that is one of Mr. Epstein's personal assistants, that's Q Has Miss since gotten married? A Yes, her name now is Q And the bottom right-hand corner? A That is She is, again, a personal assistant to Mr. Epstein. There has been some talk that she is also romantically -- or I should say sexually involved with Mr. Epstein. Q How old are the defendants? A Jeffrey is in his mid-fifties, and the three girls are in their early twenties. Do you have a copy of the draft indictment in front of you? A Yes, I do. You mentioned when we were looking at the photographs that the three females work as personal assistants for Mr. Epstein, is that correct? A Yes. Q So he is their employer? EFTA00085465 Page 19 1 A Yes. 2 Q Are you familiar with the property located at 3 358 El Brillo Way in Palm Beach? 4 A That's Mr. Epstein residence. s Q And he owns that residence? 6 A Yes, he does. 7 Q Are you familiar with Defendant J.E.G.E., Inc.? 8 A Yes. J.E.G.E., Inc. is owned by Jeffrey 9 Epstein. He is the president, the owner, the sole 10 director. It's a business that is solely used for the 11 activities of one of Mr. Epstein's airplanes, which is his 12 Boeing 727. Its tail number is N908JE. 13 Q And you mentioned that he is the president and 14 the sole director. Is he also the sole shareholder? 15 A Yes, he is. 16 Q Are you familiar with Hyperion Air, Inc.? 17 A Yes. Hyperion Air, Inc. is also a business 18 owned by Mr. Epstein. He is also the president, the 19 director and the sole shareholder of that company as well. 20 That company solely does business with his other aircraft, 21 which is a Gulf Stream G-1159B. It bears a tail number 22 N909JE. 23 Q Is that a smaller aircraft than the Boeing? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Just to briefly remind the grand jury about EFTA00085466 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 20 where the evidence has been collected in this case, was the start of your investigation information that you received from the Palm Beach Police Department? A Yes, it was. Q And that included evidence seized during a search of Mr. Epstein's home at El Brillo Way? A Yes. Q Also controlled calls that the Palm Beach Police Department placed? A Yes. Q And interviews of girls and other people by the Palm Beach Police Department? A Yes, as well as trash pulls that the Palm Beach Police Department conducted on Mr. Epstein's residence. Q Then when the FBI became involved, the FBI did additional interviews of girls and of recruiters? A Yes. Q They obtained phone records? A Yes, we have. Q And records of payments? A Yes. Q Did this grand jury also subpoena travel records? A Yes. Q Including the flight manifests of the planes EFTA00085467 Page 21 1 owned by Hyperion and J.E.G.E.? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Did you also get corporate documents related to 4 those two planes? A Yes, we have. 6 Q Once you had obtained all of this information, 7 did the FBI analyze the data, specifically the call 8 information and the flight information to put together a 9 pattern of activity by the defendants? 10 A Yes, we did. 11 Q So you have a series of phone calls coming from 12 these three assistants who were on the board, the two 13 girls who have been identified through this investigation? 14 A Yes. is Q when you spoke with those girls, did any of them 16 tell you that they had developed some sort of a personal 17 relationship with the assistants so that they were just 18 chatting over the telephone? 19 A No, not at all. 20 Q All of them said what about the phone calls? 21 A Said that the phone calls were made to set up 22 appointments for Mr. Epstein. 23 Q And the girls referred to it as appointments to 24 work, is that right? 25 A Yes, they were appointments to work. There is EFTA00085468 1 2 3 one exception, probably next that week. Page 22 We're going to talk about her say on one or two occasions called her when she had gone out She did had 4 to California on a trip, I believe. But that is the only 5 time that that was ever mentioned. In fact, we asked, and 6 those phone calls were made for the purpose of setting up 7 appointments for Mr. Epstein. 8 Q Is the investigation continuing? 9 A Yes, it is. 10 11 Q Are you still trying to locate and interview more girls? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Let's turn to the specific evidence reporting 14 the overt acts and offenses relating to Jane Doe's 1 15 through 5. I know that every member of the grand jury has 16 17 a copy of the draft indictment before them, and also a chart. 18 Do you have a copy of that chart as well? 19 A I do. 20 Q Do you have photographs of the five girls that 21 we are going to talk about today? 22 A Yes. 23 Q And these are photographs of the people that we 24 are calling Jane Doe's 1 through 5? 25 A Yes. EFTA00085469 Page 23 1 Q And Jane Doe Number 1, you have previously 2 testified about her? 3 A Yes, I have, that's 4 Q Jane Doe Number 2? 5 A That is 6 Q Jane Doe Number 3? 7 A That is Q Jane Doe Number 4? 9 A Faith P. 10 Q And Jane Doe Number 5? 11 A That is 12 JUROR: The purpose of Epstein's business with 13 his planes, did he transport? 14 THE WITNESS: To travel around. 15 JUROR: So it wasn't like a business of 16 transporting other people? 17 THE WITNESS: He flew other guests, sometimes 18 unaccompanied, sometimes accompanied. 19 JUROR: and do you have 20 any evidence that they started young, like the rest 21 of the recruits? 22 THE WITNESS: We have evidence that they are his 23 personal assistants employed by him, not that it was 24 anything like what we were discussing. 25 JUROR: There was an allegation that was made EFTA00085470 Page 24 1 earlier, back in February, during one of these 2 discussions, about a specific act that was performed. 3 Can I ask about that? We were told back in February 4 that one of the girls when interviewed had alleged 5 rape, and I hadn't heard about that allegation 6 recently. 7 THE WITNESS: That's probably Jane Doe Number 6. 8 We're going to talk about her, that he forcibly put 9 her on the table and her. Yeah, she will 10 be coming up. We're going to do her probably next 11 week. She'll be the first one we'll talk about. 12 13 Q So turning to Jane Doe Number 1, You 14 testified about her earlier before this grand jury, 15 correct? 16 A Yes, I did. 17 Q And she also testified before this grand jury, 18 correct? 19 A Yes. 20 Q Can you remind us of her date of birth? 21 A She was born on 22 Q Could you briefly refresh the grand jury's 23 recollection of how she was recruited? 24 A She was approached on a beach by and 25 They approached her on a beach EFTA00085471 1 2 3 4 Page 25 and asked her if she wanted to perform massages for Mr. Epstein and make some money. Q From the review of the phone records that you have received, were you able to identify a telephone 5 number associated with 6 A Yes. 7 Q In fact, has been interviewed? 8 A Yes, he has. 9 Q And has he admitted to being a recruiter for Mr. 10 Epstein? 11 A Yes, recruiter and driver. 12 Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 2, 13 which appears on page five. That states, "On or about 14 March 12, 2004, defendants Jeffrey Epstein and 15 caused Jane Doe Number 1 to travel to 358 Brillo Way of 16 Palm Beach, Florida.• 17 Can you tell us what evidence you have regarding 18 that? 19 A We have reviewed phone records for and 20 Sara that indicate the calls took place, as well as phone 21 records for and and calls that took 22 place on or about those dates. We've also looked at a 23 flight manifest, and were able to show that Mr. Epstein 24 arrived the day before, on the 11th. We also have 25 statement where she describes the sexual activity that EFTA00085472 1 2 3 4 took place. Q On that date, March 12 of 2004, going to Mr. Epstein's house and performing massage? Page 26 described a sexual 5 A Yes, on or about that day. 6 0 On or about that date, what did state 7 about being paid? 8 A She was paid S200. 9 And that relates to Overt Act Number 3? 10 A Yes. 11 12 Q And she stated that Mr. Epstein is the person who gave her that? 13 A She told us that in her statement. 14 Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 95, 15 which is on page 17. On or about February 6, 2005, 16 Epstein had Jane Doe Number 1 to make one or more 17 telephone calls to Jane Doe Number 2. 18 First of all, who is Jane Doe Number 2? 19 A That would be ., our youngest victim. 20 21 0 Can you tell us what evidence you have related to that overt act? 22 A We have the girl's statements that calls were 23 made. we also reviewed the phone records that indicated 24 25 that there was belonging to telephonic contact between the numbers EFTA00085473 Page 27 Q And in the statement of both girls, did they describe that is the person who called looking for someone to come and work at Mr. Epstein's house? 6 0 Looking at Overt Act Number 96. On or about February 6, 2005, Epstein caused Jane Doe Number 1 to 8 transport Jane Doe Number 2 to 358 El Brillo way. 9 What is the evidence related to that? 10 A Again, the statements of support 11 that as further evidence, and also reviewing the phone 12 records they indicate that there was telephonic contact 13 between and 14 Q Overt Act Number 97, on or about February 6, 15 2005, Epstein made a payment of $300 to Jane Doe Number 2 16 and a payment of $200 to Jane Doe Number 1. 17 What was the evidence of that? 18 A Both stated in their statements 19 that =was paid $300, and was paid $200 for 20 bringin 21 Q Did explain why she was paid $300? 22 A Yes, she was paid $300 because she performed her 23 massage. Mr. Epstein digitally penetrated and used a 24 massager on 25 Q After this date, after February 6, 2005, was EFTA00085474 Page 28 1 $300 found in-'s purse when it was searched at her 2 school? 3 A Yes, it was, by a school administrator. 4 Q If you could look at Overt Act Number 117, which 5 is on page 19, and that states that on or about March 30, 6 2005, caused one or more calls to be made to a 7 telephone used by Jane Doe Number 1. 8 What evidence do you have related to that? A We reviewed the phone records of and 10 that indicate this. 11 Q And Overt Act 120, on or about March 31, 12 caused one or more calls to be made to a telephone used by 13 Jane Doe Number 1. 14 A Again, we reviewed the phone records that 15 indicated there was telephonic contact between the numbers 16 belonging to 17 Q Then we have Overt Act Number 122, which is also 18 March 31, that Epstein and caused Jane Doe Number 1 19 to make a call to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number 2. 20 What evidence do you have related to that? 21 A We have phone records that we have reviewed 22 belonging to . In this case, we also have a 23 voice mail that was provided to us by the Palm Beach 24 Police Department, a voice mail o' leaving a voice 25 mail message on phone. EFTA00085475 Page 29 1 Q And Overt Act Number 123 refers to April 1st. 2 What evidence do you have related to that? 3 A We have reviewed the phone records of and 4 that indicate telephonic contact was made on this 5 day. We also again have another recorded voice mail by 6 left on phone. 7 Q These later calls, the March-April calls, are 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 those the controlled calls that the Palm Beach Police Department was involved in? A There was controlled calls placed to cell phone and to place of work bye under the supervision of the Palm Beach Police Department. Q And the voice mail message that you referred to calling what information was in that voice mail message? A that she house on 10:30 or as asking for leaving to get back in touch, had set up an appointment for at Epstein's the following day, on that Saturday at around 11:00. Q In addition to the phone records, was there anything that the Palm Beach Police Department found that also confirmed that this appointment actually was made. A As i mentioned earlier, the Palm Beach Police Department was doing trash pulls on Mr. Epstein's residence. In there, there were two messages or notes in EFTA00085476 Page 30 1 there on Epstein's personalized stationary. On it it 2 said, "IIIIIIkith on Saturday at 10:30, and on 3 Saturday wit t 10:30." That's the exact message on 4 the two notes that were found in his trash when they 5 retrieved it on April 8. 6 If I could direct your attention to Count Number 7 Five, which appears on page 26. That is the charge of 8 enticement of a minor, referring to Jane Doe Number 1, and 9 Mr. Epstein and Missi are charged. 10 I know that you talked about the telephone 11 traffic. The calls between and did 12 13 they fall within period? that march 7 through March 11 time 14 A A review of their telephone records do indicate 15 that there were phone calls made during that time. 16 Q And Jane Doe Number 1 actually went to Mr. 17 Epstein's home? 18 19 A Yes, and performed a massage for him in the nude. 20 And she was paid for that? 21 A Yes, she was paid 5200. 22 Q And he masturbated in front of her, correct? 23 A Yes, he did. I would like to include that Sara 24 Kellin took upstairs for that massage, and she also 25 set up the massage table and arranged the oil and lotions EFTA00085477 1 2 3 4 for at that massage. just so it's clear, how old 17. Page 31 to do Q And also, that time? A She was was 5 Are there any questions about 6 either how that evidence was presented or about the 7 charges related to Jane Doe Number 1? Seeing no questions, we'll turn to Jane Doe Number 2. 9 sYl 10 0 You previously mentioned that that was 11 A Yes. 12 Q Let's turn to Count Number Six, which is on page 13 26, which is the enticement of If you could tell 14 the grand jury about the evidence related to that. 15 A date of birth is 16 Q So during this period of February 5, 2005 to the 17 6th, how old was she? 18 A She was 14. 19 Q Can you remind the grand jury about the evidence 20 related to the enticement of 21 A As we stated earlier, we talked about the 22 telephone calls. We have shown that the facility of 23 interstate commerce was used by the telephone calls made 24 by their cell phones. We examined specifically 25 Those calls were made to EFTA00085478 Page 32 1 set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein to have 2 his massages. 3 Pertaining to , during the massage that 4 occurred on those dates, February 6, in particular, I 5 think I have discussed with you before what occurred on 6 that, that he fingered -- and that was his term for 7 it -- and that he used a massager on her. 8 He did masturbate during that massage, and she 9 believed he ejaculated because he wiped off his penis with 10 a towel. She was paid $300, and we know that she was 14 11 at the time. 12 Q If we could turn to Count Number 43, which 13 appears on page 31. Count 43 is one of the travel counts. 14 If you could tell the grand jury, did a trip occur on 15 March 31, 2005? 16 A Yes, we have flight records that indicate a 17 flight occurred on that date. 18 Q What type of plane was used? 19 A I'm going to refer to the J.E.G.E., Incorporated 20 aircraft as just the Boeing 727. If we talk about the 21 Hyperion Air, Incorporated aircraft, which is the Gulf 22 Stream, I will just say the Gulf Stream. So on that date 23 he did travel on his Boeing 727, on 3-31. 24 Q And Mr. Epstein was aboard the plane on that 25 day? EFTA00085479 Page 33 1 A Yes, he was. 2 Q with respect to the March 31st trip, was there 3 evidence of him setting up the appointment with prior 4 to that trip? 5 A We do have telephonic contact between and 6 as well as on the day before 7 and the day of travel. 8 Q And even though that appointment was never kept, 9 that never went to that appointment, you have the 10 notes that were retrieved from the garbage that showed 11 that Mr. Epstein was expecting IIIIII[o show up for that 12 appointment? 13 A Yes. 14 Q Anything else with respect to that particular 15 count? 16 A We also have the controlled calls and the voice 17 mails. 18 Q Turning to Count Number 60, which appears on 19 page 34, that is the attempted enticement of 20 during the period of March 30 to April 1. 21 Again, at that point, was how old? 22 A She was 14. 23 Q And we had talked about the telephone calls that 24 were used. One of the things that is relevant to this 25 particular count was that in addition to the fact that EFTA00085480 Page 34 1 was 14, did you interview a girl who went with 2 when she went to Mr. Epstein's house back in 3 February? 4 A Yes, we did, that would be 5 Q And ! was interviewed? 6 A Yes, she was interviewed by the Palm Beach 7 Police Department. 8 Q What did say about appearance? 9 10 A came. That she was the youngest looking girl that 11 Q When you talked with did talk about 12 girls that Mr. Epstein liked in particular? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And was 3. one of those girls? 15 A Yes, she was one of his preferences. lso 16 17 told us younger, that Mr. Epstein said to her on one occasion, •The the better.• 18 Q And there was never any attempt to get 19 I.D. or to confirm her actual age? 20 A No. 21 Q As we discussed before, ever actually went 22 to that point, right, so that is just an attempt? 23 A Yes. 24 Are there any questions from the 25 grand jury? Seeing no questions, we'll see you next EFTA00085481 Page 35 1 week. Thank you. 2 (Witness excused.) 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 10 I CERTIFY pages 1 to 35 is a true transcript of 11 my shorthand notes of the testimony of 12 before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm 13 Beach, Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. 14 Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 23rd day 15 of May, 2007. 16 17 18 19 20 Court Reporter 21 22 23 24 25 ONaleffICRIERININ EFTA00085482 Page 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR Federal Grand Jury, 07-103 West Palm Beach, Florida May 8, 2007 APPEARANCES: ESQUIRE Assistant United States Attorney Foreperson TESTIMONY OF EFTA00085483 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of Page 2 was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on the 8th day of may, 2007. Court Reporter, was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. EFTA00085484 1 2 3 4 (The witness having been duly was examined entered the grand jury Page 3 room.) foreperson, as follows: sworn by the grand jury and testified on his oath 5 EXAMINATION 6 BY 7 Q Special Agent could you state and 8 spell your name for the record. 9 A 10 Q By whom are you employed? 11 A I'm employed by the FBI. 12 Q What is your position with the FBI? 13 A I'm a special agent, and have been so for four 14 years. 15 Q Are you one of the agents assigned to the 16 investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 17 A Yes, I am. 18 Q Were subpoenas caused to be issued on behalf of 19 this grand jury in connection with that investigation? 20 A Yes. 21 Q And have documents been received in response to 22 those? 23 A Yes. 24 Q What additional subpoenas have been issued, and 25 what have you received in response? EFTA00085485 Page 4 1 A Additional subpoenas that have been issued 2 include OLY-28 to Colonial Bank, along with OLY-29, which 3 was issued to Palm Beach National Bank & Trust Company. 4 That was served on March 5, 2007. It should be known that 5 Palm Beach National Bank & Trust Company is now operated 6 by Colonial Bank, which we learned in the issuance 7 process. We did receive documents back from Colonial 8 Bank, which covered both subpoenas, on April 25, 2007. 9 Q And those sought information relating to bank 10 accounts belonging to Mr. Epstein? 11 A That is correct. 12 Q What else? 13 A Also served OLY-30 to Western Union Financial 14 Services seeking documents and records related to Jeffrey 15 Epstein. It was served on February 26, 2007, and we 16 received items back from Western Union on two separate 17 dates, and two packages, the first on April 9, 2007, and 18 the second on April 11, 2007. 19 Q And those sought records of wire transfers from 20 Mr. Epstein to girls whom have been identified for this 21 investigation? 22 A Yes. 23 Q What else? 24 A We also served OLY-31 to Western Union Financial 25 Services. It was served on February 26, 2007, and they EFTA00085486 Page 5 1 returned information which we received on May 3, 2007. 2 Q The same type of information? 3 A Yes, the same type of information, seeking wire 4 transfer information from Jeffrey Epstein to victims. 5 We also served OLY-32 to J.P. Morgan Chase Bank. 6 After serving that one on February 26, 2007, they informed 7 us by letter that they are known as Chase, not J.P. Morgan 8 Chase. So we had to reissue another subpoena, which was 9 taken care of on March 22, '07. 10 we also issued OLY-40 on Chase Bank as well on 11 12 April 4, 2007. We received records on April 13, 2007 and April 19, 2007 to cover all three subpoenas that were 13 served. 14 Q And those sought information related to bank 15 accounts and credit cards related to the defendants? 16 A Yes. Additionally, we served OLY-33 on Dr. 17 Thomas Rofranno (phonetic), who's a chiropractic doctor. 18 We were seeking records related to Jeffrey Epstein as a 19 patient. The subpoena was served on March 6, 2007, and 20 Thomas Rofranno provided materials on March 16, 2007. 21 Also we have OLY-36, which was served on the 22 Palm Beach County Health Department. It was served on 23 March 5, 2007, seeking birth certificates of our victims 24 that we were researching. We received the records from 25 the Palm Beach County Health Department on April 16, 2007. EFTA00085487 1 2 3 Page 6 We also served two subpoenas on the Adult Video Warehouse. The first one was OLY-41, which was served -- both of these were served on April 24, 2007, and they were 4 seeking any transactions that had occurred on behalf of 5 Mr. Epstein or those individuals that were working for him 6 or with him. We received items back on the OLY-41 7 subpoena on April 30, 2007. 8 The second subpoena served on Adult Video 9 Warehouse was OLY-34. Again, it was served on April 24, 10 2007, and the Adult Video Warehouse complied and provided 11 us materials on April 30, 2007. 12 That concludes all of the items that we have 13 14 received to date for the outstanding subpoenas that were issued. 15 Q Are the documents that you refer to in that box 16 that's on the desk? 17 A Yes, they are. 18 : Does anyone want to review those 19 documents? At this time, no one is requesting that 20 they want to review the documents today. 21 Would you please swear in the witness to 22 maintain those documents. 23 (Witness sworn in as custodian of the 24 records.) 25 (Witness excused.) EFTA00085488 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 Page 7 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I CERTIFY pages 1 to 6 is a true transcript of my shorthand notes of the testimony of before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 28th day of May, 2007. Court Reporter EFTA00085489 1 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH 3 4 5 6 7 8 IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 9 10 11 12 / Grand Jury #07-103 (TUES-WPB) West Palm Beach, Florida 13 Tuesday, May 15, 2007 14 15 TESTIMONY 16 OF 17 18 19 20 21 APPEARANCE: 22 ASSISTANT U. S. ATTORNEY 23 FOREPERSON P 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085490 2 1 PROCEEDINGS 2 _ _ - 3 The sworn testimony of was taken 4 before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 5 701 Clematis Street, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, 6 State of Florida, on the 15th day of May, 2007. 7 , Registered Merit Reporter and Notary 8 Public was authorized to and did report the sworn 9 testimony. 10 Thereupon, 11 12 a witness of lawful age, having been first duly sworn by 13 the foreperson, testified on her oath as follows: 14 BY 15 Q Good morning, Special Agent. Could you state 16 and spell your name for the record. 17 A Special Agent 18 19 Q And with whom do you work? 20 A The FBI here in west Palm Beach. 21 Q And are you here today on the continuing 22 investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 23 A Yes, I am. 24 Q And you are one of the case agents on this 25 investigation, correct? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085491 3 1 A Yes, I am. 2 Q The last time you were here we were discussing 3 the evidence supporting various overt acts and charges 4 related to Jane Does number 1 and 2? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Today we are going to start with Jane Doe 7 number 3. Can you tell the Grand Jury who that is and 8 summarize briefly your previous testimony about her. 9 A Jane Doe number 3 is Vanessailland she first 10 started, we have first phone contact with 11 starting in December of 2004, would have been 16 12 or 17 at that time, let me do the math real quick, she 13 would have been 16 -- sorry, I am sorry, she would have 14 been at that time 17, let's get it right, so she started 15 phone contact, started calling her in 16 September of 2004. 17 From testimony we know that went there 18 earlier, much earlier. which was Jane Doe 19 number 4 you will hear about next, they were good 20 friends and they both went in the spring of '04, prior 21 to 17th birthday, so did start giving 22 Mr. Epstein massages when she was 16, she performed a 23 few massages for Mr. Epstein and then took kind of a 24 little bit of a break. 25 The sexual activity that occurred with OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085492 4 1 Mr. Epstein when was under the age of 18 2 included , the use of a vibrator on 3 grabbing and fondling of her breasts and her 4 buttock, she was given gifts by Mr. Epstein, she was 5 given a vibrator, she was given Victoria Secret 6 underwear, she was also given a car that Mr. Epstein 7 rented for her for a number of months, she was paid S200 8 by Mr. Epstein and was the one that primarily 9 called to set up appointments and as you can see 10 that began in December of '04. 11 was also one of Mr. Epstein's 12 favorites, according to several of the other girls. 13 Q Just so the Grand Jury has an idea, how does 14 that translate into the number of phone calls between 15 and that you were able to calculate? 16 A called her, I guess calls between 17 the two of them ranged around 125 phone calls from 18 December 6th, 2004 until October, 2005. 19 Q And just briefly can you remind the Grand Jury 20 did_ever tell Mr. Epstein her age? 21 A No, they did not ever discuss, she did not 22 tell him how old she was, but she did tell him where she 23 planned on going to school and that she was in soccer. 24 She stated that when it came to her age that 25 Mr. Epstein didn't care. As I mentioned earlier, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085493 5 1 and were very good friends and would talk 2 about and Mr. Epstein would ask questions about 3 when was providing massages and as we will 4 talk about when we talk about Jane Doe number 4, which 5 is she told mr. Epstein that she was a junior in 6 high school and that and her were in the same 7 classes together and that they were very good friends 8 and told us that at one point had come to 9 her because she had slipped about prom and she was 10 worried because Epstein was supposed to think she was 18 11 and she had talked about the prom and said she 12 never heard anything else about it and they never 13 brought it up. 14 Q Because, according to Mr. Epstein 15 didn't care really how old the girls were? 16 A Exactly. 17 Q And she never mentioned he asked her for her 18 age or asked for any form of identification to show 19 whether she was or was not over 18? 20 A No. 21 Q Now, if you could turn to the proposed 22 indictment and if 1 could ask you to look at overt act 23 number 59. 24 A we had a little knock at the door. Do you 25 want me to get it? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085494 1 2 3 4 Q A number 4, Yes. (Thereupon, there was a brief pause.) I will let you see a picture of Jane Doe who we were talking about earlier, and 5 this is Is there anyplace you want to put it 6 right down here in front? 7 Q And just so the record is clear, those are the 8 photographs that we showed to the Grand Jury last week? 9 A Yes, it is. 10 Q So if you could turn to overt act number 59 11 which appears on page 12, and if you could explain to 12 the Grand Jury the evidence we have related to that 13 phone call or phone calls on December 6th, 2004. 14 A On December 6th, 2004 a review of the phone 15 records indicate that there was telephonic phone contact 16 between the numbers belonging to and 17 as well as we have evidence with 18 statements of the phone calls being made to 19 her by 20 Q And overt act number 60? 21 A A review of the phone records indicate 22 telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to 23 and on December 12, 2004. 24 Q And overt act number 64? 25 A A review of the phone records indicate OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085495 7 1 telephonic contact between numbers belonging to 2 and on December 14th, 2004. 3 Q And just so that it is clear to the Grand 4 Jury, when the overt acts says that defendant 5 made one or more telephone calls, that means that the 6 call is originating from phone, is that 7 correct? 8 A Yes, it does. 9 Q And if you could turn to overt act number 71. 10 A on December 20th a review of the phone records 11 indicate that there was telephonic contact between 12 and 13 Q And overt act number 79? 14 A on January 6th, 2005 a review of phone records 15 indicate there was telephone contact between numbers 16 belonging to and 17 Q And number 83? 18 A on January 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 19 records indicate telephonic contact between numbers 20 belonging to and 21 Q And with respect to the other overt acts 22 related to the phone calls which would be 94, 100, 102, 23 104, 112, 118, 125, 129 and 132 is the evidence the 24 same? 25 A Yes, on or about each of those dates a review OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085496 8 1 of the phone records indicated telephonic contact 2 between the numbers belonging to and 3 as well as-statements. 4 Q Now, if 1 could direct your attention to Count 5 number 7 which appears on page 26 of the draft 6 indictment, that is a charge of indictment of a minor 7 during the period of December 6th, 2004 through June 2nd 8 of 2005, could you summarize for the Grand Jury the 9 evidence related to that count. 10 A on or about these dates the facility of 11 interstate commerce, the telephone, specifically 12 and , were utilized to set up 13 appointments, massage appointments for Epstein. 14 During the massages and on more than one 15 occasion Epstein , he 16 used a massager directly on and Epstein 17 directed IIIIIIIIF o straddle him while he masturbated 18 and rubbed his penis between her legs, he would 19 masturbate, he would reach through her legs as she was 20 straddling him, there was no penetration of his penis in 21 , though. 22 He touched breasts, he would 23 masturbate. He pai n multiple occasions $200. 24 Both and Jeffrey Epstein have escorted 25 upstairs for these massages and Mr. Epstein gave OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085497 9 1 a vibrator, victoria secret bra and panty sets 2 and he also rented her a car for several months. 3 Q And just so that it is clear, you mentioned he 4 paid her on several occasions, he paid her every time 5 she performed these lewd acts, correct? 6 A Yes, $200. 7 Q And is listed as a defendant with 8 respect to Jane Doe number 3 as well, and can you 9 explain to the Grand Jury a little bit more about who 10 is and why she is charged in this count? 11 A is one of Mr. Epstein's personal 12 assistants as well and she made appointments for him for 13 these massages. 14 we have contact between phone 15 and phone, she contacted approximately 16 25 times. 17 Q And that's why she is also charged with 18 someone who is either an aider or abetter or a 19 coconspirator with respect to this? 20 A ves. 21 Q okay. If I could direct your attention to 22 Count number 32 which appears on page 30, count number 23 32. 24 A I got 32. 25 Q what is the evidence related to? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085498 10 1 A I am sorry, I didn't hear you ask me the 2 question, I thought you said refer to it. 3 The evidence is we have flight records that 4 indicate on December 13th, 2004 Epstein traveled to Palm 5 Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephonic 6 contact between and the day 7 before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 8 conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and as we 9 described earlier in Count 7. 10 Q And just to refresh the recollection of the 11 Grand Jury, the Gulfstream aircraft is the one owned by 12 Hyperion? 13 A Air, Inc. 14 Q And when you said that there was telephone 15 contact, you recall that in overt act number 60 that we 16 discussed phone calls on December 12th, correct? 17 A we did. 18 Q Okay. If I could direct you to Count number 19 35 and if you could tell the Grand Jury about the 20 evidence according to that count. 21 A Again, we have flight records that indicate 22 that on January 6th, 2005 Epstein traveled to Palm Beach 23 County on the Gulfstream again, there was telephonic 24 contact between and the day before, 25 the day of that travel, we also talked about the sexual OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085499 11 1 conduct between Jeffrey and between Epstein and 2 3 Q And can you tell us again what aircraft they 4 flew on on January 6th? 5 A That was the Gulfstream which was owned by 6 Hyperion Air, Inc. 7 Q Okay. If I could direct you to Count 36 and 8 again if you could summarize that evidence. 9 A we have flight records that indicate that on 10 January 14th, 2005 Epstein, and traveled to 11 Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727 that Mr. Epstein 12 owns, there was telephonic contact between 13 and the day before, the day of that 14 travel, as well as we have the sexual conduct between 15 Jeffrey Epstein and as we described 16 earlier, and I will tell you that is -- 17 , Mr. Epstein's personal assistant, and is 18 we talked about just a few minutes ago, 19 Mr. Epstein, another of Mr. Epstein's personal 20 assistants. 21 Q And if I could direct your attention to Count 22 37 and ask you to summarize the evidence related to that 23 count. 24 A we have flight records that indicate that on 25 February 3rd, 2005 M . Epstein and traveled OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085500 12 1 to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, there was 2 telephonic contact between and 3 he day before or the day of travel and we have 4 the sexual conduct between Epstein and 5 Q And if I could direct your attention to Count 6 number 38. 7 A In Count number 38 we have flight records that 8 indicate on February 10th, 2005 Mr. Epstein, 9 and traveled to 10 Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephone 11 contact between and the day 12 before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 13 conduct between Mr. Epstein and 14 Q Now, I am sorry, on Count number 38, which 15 airline were they on? 16 A They were on the Gulfstream. 17 Q Can I ask you to double-check that? There is 18 an inconsistency between the chart and the indictment or 19 we can save that for a later date. 20 A It is right here. 21 Q 1 will mark that we need to check on Count 22 number 38. 23 A I have the flight manifest with me if you want 24 me to check, I don't know if you want me to do that now. 25 Q Yes, if you don't mind. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085501 13 1 (Thereupon, there was a brief pause.) 2 A In Count 38, flight records indicate on 3 February 10th, 2005 that Mr. Epstein, 4 and were in fact on the 5 Boeing 727. 6 Q So the draft indictment contains the correct 7 information? 8 A Yes, it does. 9 Q What company owns the Boeing 727? 10 A JEGE, Inc., Incorporated. 11 Q And if I could take you to Count number 39. 12 A Evidence shows through flight records that on 13 February 21st, 2005 Epstein, , 14 and traveled to Palm Beach County on 15 the Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between 16 and the day before or the day 17 of travel, there was also the sexual conduct between 18 Epstein and IME 19 Q And if I could take you to Count number 40, 20 please. 21 A we have flight records that indicate on 22 February 24th, 2005 Epstein, 23 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 24 727, there was telephonic contact between 25 and the day before, the day of travel, and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085502 14 1 there was sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 2 as we described earlier in Count 7. 3 Q And if you could do Count 42. 4 A we have evidence that shows flight records, 5 that flight records indicate that on March 18th, 2005 6 Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, 7 there was telephonic contact between and 8 the day of or the day before travel, we 9 have the sexual conduct between Mr. Epstein and 10 Q And just referring to that count, 11 is named, although she was not on the flight that day, 12 is that correct? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And you said that she made the telephone calls 15 with correct? 16 A Yes, and we also do have -- we have 17 interviewed Mr. Epstein's pilots and one of the pilots 18 indicated that was the one that arranged all of 19 Mr. Epstein's travel arrangements and so she is 20 responsible for making his arrangements to travel to 21 Palm Beach as well as call the girls for the 22 appointments. 23 Q If I could take you to Count number 43, 24 please. 25 A Flight records indicate that on March 31st, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085503 15 1 2005 Mr. Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the 2 Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between 3 and the day before or the day of travel, 4 we also have the sexual conduct between Epstein as 5 Vanessa described earlier in Count 7. 6 Q Again, in Count 44, what is the evidence 7 related to that? 8 A Flight records indicate that on April 8th, 9 2005 Epstein and traveled to Palm Beach 10 County on the Gulfstream and there was telephonic 11 contact between and zylus on the 12 day before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 13 conduct between Mr. Epstein and 14 Q And if you could go through 45, 46 and 47. 15 A Count 45 we have flight records that indicate 16 on April 27th, 2005 Epstein and traveled to 17 Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there is telephone 18 contact between and the day 19 before or the day of travel and we have the sexual 20 conduct between Jeffrey and . 21 In Count 46 we have flight records that 22 indicate that on may 6th, 2005 Epstein, and 23 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 24 Gulfstream. 25 we have also telephonic contact between OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085504 16 1 and either the day before or the 2 day of travel and we have the sexual conduct between 3 Epstein and , and in Count 47 on may 19th, 2005 4 we have flight records that indicate Epstein, 5 and traveled to Palm Beach County on 6 the Gulfstream and we have telephone contact between 7 and the day before or the day 8 of travel. 9 we also have the sexual conduct between 10 Epstein and as described in the earlier 11 count, count 7. 12 Q Now, if I could direct your attention to count 13 number 51 which appears on page 33, that is the sex 14 trafficking of a minor involving Jane Doe number 3, and 15 could you briefly summarize that, the evidence related 16 to that. 17 A As we discussed earlier in count 7, I told you 18 uys about the sexual conduct between Epstein and 19 the monies that were paid to by 20 Mr. Epstein, the hone activit we discussed between 21 and it began in December, 22 and we also have phone calls beginning in January from 23 to at that time was 17 24 years of age, and we also have statements from 25 and regarding Mr. Epstein's knowledge of their OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085505 17 1 ages. 2 Q And with respect to the affect on interstate 3 commerce related to that count we have both the 4 telephone calls, correct? 5 A Yes. 6 Q As well as Mr. Epstein actually traveling in 7 interstate commerce to engage in this activity, correct? 8 A Yes, we do. 9 Q Is there anything else that you would like to 10 mention about Jane Doe number 3? 11 A Not at this time, no. 12 Q If I could direct you to lane Doe number 4 and 13 if you could summarize for the Grand Jury the 14 information related to Jane Doe number 4's activities. 15 A Jane Doe number 4 is 16 wanted their birth dates, her birth date is 17 she was 16 years old and attended 18 High School. 19 we first have contact through phone calls from 20 21 indicates and shows that was clearly 16 years of 22 age when she started going to Mr. Epstein's and 23 performing massa es for Mr. Epstein. 24 ur Jane Doe number 1, was the one 25 who recruited she basically told that she tom on April 25th, 2004 which , I think you OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085506 • 18 1 could make $200, she needed to dress cute, he might try 2 to touch you, but if you feel uncomfortable just let him 3 know and he will stop, and the first massage that 4 did he repeatedly told , and I mentioned this to 5 you in the last Grand Jury session, she was very shy and 6 he would repeatedly tell her not to be so shy, that she 7 didn't have to be so shy. 8 Epstein asked her to remove her clothing and 9 she told him no, and throughout the massage he would 10 11 12 13 14 15 repeatedly grab at masturbate through clothes, she would that. upon leaving told that if her, this pull the he grabbed her butt, he did first massage and pulled her away and she was paid $200 for first massage Mr. Epstein was willing to do more she 16 would get paid more. He also informed that if she 17 would bring her pretty friends he would also pay her for 18 bringing her pretty friends. He told that 19 would get her phone number. 20 says that she performed three to four 21 massages for Mr. Epstein. we have with 22 approximately a hundred phone calls between 23 and 24 when i interviewed she became very upset 25 when we got to the sexual massages that she did for OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085507 19 1 Mr. Epstein. At this point, this is as much as we know 2 at this point of what occurred with Mr. Epstein and 3 4 She did three to four massages and those last 5 massages they became more sexual in nature, he asked her 6 again to remove her clothing, this time she took her 7 shirt off, he asked her to take her bra off, she said 8 no. 9 He again would touch her breasts, he would 10 touch her butt, he did continue to masturbate, this time 11 she believes he ejaculated. He continued to compliment 12 her, tell her she had a nice body and that she was 13 pretty. 14 says that he was very nice and engaged 15 her in conversation, asked her, you know, if she had a 16 boyfriend. In the last massage she discusses with me, 17 and this massage Mr. Epstein told her to stop being shy 18 and asked her to take her clothes off and said 19 that she had a boyfriend and she didn't feel comfortable 20 taking her clothes off and he told her you should know 21 what to expect by now when you come here, and he jerked 22 on her pants as to like jerk them down, so she did on 23 this last massage get down to her bra and underwear. 24 She describes his tone at this time being 25 frustrated and irritated, she stayed in her bra and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085508 20 1 underwear, but during the massage he grabbed her bra and 2 pulled it down and fondled her breasts, he had 3 instructed her to pinch his chest, his nipples while she 4 was massaging his chest, he tried to grab her all over, 5 he knew that she was upset with this massage. 6 At one point mr. Epstein asked her if she had 7 sex with her boyfriend, informs him that she is 8 still a virgin and he responds what, you don't like sex? 9 And that's pretty much the way that last massage went. 10 Q NOW, Special Agent IIIIIIIIIIII just to 11 interrupt you, you mentioned that Jane Doe number 4 12 became very upset as you were asking her about the 13 massages, correct? 14 A yes. 15 Q And when she was describing this incident with 16 him grabbing at her breast and trying to pull her pants 17 down and instructing her to remove her pants, correct? 18 A yes. 19 Q you had talked last week about the expert that 20 you had spoken with about interviewing victims of these 21 types of offenses? 22 A Right. 23 Q And you had told us about how a victim may be 24 reticent at first to tell the entire story until a 25 rapport is built? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085509 21 1 A Right. 2 Q Can you tell the Grand Jury your impressions 3 of your interview with 4 A She became so visibly upset, and a lot of the 5 girls are embarrassed of what took place, but when she 6 talked about the last massage and him grabbing her 7 breasts and fondling her breasts she was in tears and we 8 stopped the massage and we calmed her down, trying to go 9 back there was just too difficult, I could not get her 10 back to discussing anything further that had taken 11 place. 12 I have since then -- I have since talked to 13 again and I feel there is more there, but I just 14 don't think she is ready to disclose what took place. 15 Q So based upon the more than 60 telephone calls 16 as well as -- 17 A Approximately a hundred. 18 Q -- 100 telephone calls and your conversations 19 with you think there is probably more than four 20 massages that happened? 21 A ves, I do. 22 Q was there anything else that you wanted to 23 discuss with the Grand Jury? 24 A Just, as I stated in the beginning of those 25 massages, they engaged in conversation and throughout OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085510 22 1 that conversation, you know, she did inform Mr. Epstein 2 that she was a junior in high school and again she is 3 one of the girls that talks about being Mr. 4 Epstein's favorite, so because Mr. Epstein knew they 5 were friends they would engage in conversation about 6 IIIIIIII, and would mention they were in the same 7 classes at school and they would discuss the friendship 8 they had between the two girls with Mr. Epstein and 1 9 think that's it. 10 Q All right. If we could turn to the 11 post-indictment to overt act number 4 which appears on 12 page number S. 13 Did you obtain telephone records for Jane Doe 14 number 4? 15 A Yes. 16 Q And did you compare those with the phone 17 records of and others? 18 A Yes, I did. 19 Q And can you tell us with respect to overt act 20 number 4 what evidence you have related to that? 21 A A review of the phone records indicate that 22 there was telephonic contact between the numbers 23 belonging to and as well as 24 statements that would call her to make 25 appointments. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085511 23 1 Q And if we could go through overt acts 6, 8, 9 2 and 11, all of which appear on page 6. 3 A A review of the phone records on May 3rd, 4 2004, may 14th, 2004, may 20th, 2004 and June 3rd, 2004, 5 a review of those phone records indicate that there was 6 telephonic contact between numbers belonging to 7 and as well as statements. 8 Q If I could take you to overt acts 14, 15 and 9 19 which appear on page 7. 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A A review of the phone records on June 11th, 2004, June 20th, 2004 and July 10th, 2004, they indicate that there is telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to and Q And if I could ask you to turn to page 8 and if you could address overt acts 24 and 25. A A review of the phone records on July 18th, 2004 and July 22nd, 2004, a review of and hone records indicate there is telephonic contact belonging to both of them as well as tatements that would arrange appointments with her. Q If I could take you to page 9 of the draft proposed indictment and ask about overt acts 29 and 30. A A review of the phone records indicate there is telephonic contact on July 22nd, 2004 and August 4th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085512 24 1 2 3 4 5 2004 between numbers as well as If I could indictment belonging to and statements. you to page 10 of the draft you about overt acts 37 and Q proposed 43. take and ask 6 A A review of phone records indicate telephonic 7 contact on August 25th, 2004 and October 3rd, 2004 8 between numbers belonging to and 9 10 Q And if you could turn to page 11 of the draft 11 proposed indictment and if you would address overt acts 12 47 and 48. 13 A A review of the phone records indicate 14 telephonic contact on October 30th, 2004 and November 15 4th, 2004 between numbers belonging to and 16 Fayth P, as well statements. 17 Q Okay. And if you could go to page 14 of the 18 draft proposed indictment and address overt act number 19 77. 20 A A review of phone records indicate that on 21 January 4th, 200 elephonic contact between 22 and as well as 23 statements. 24 Q I'm sorry. If you could turn to page 16 of 25 the draft proposed indictment and address overt act OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085513 25 1 number 87. 2 A A review of the phone records indicate that on 3 January 22, 2005 there is telephonic phone contact 4 between numbers belonging to and and 5 I believe I said on January 22nd, 2005. 6 Q Okay. And if you could go to page 17 and 7 address overt act number 101. 8 A On February 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 9 records indicate that there was telephonic contact on 10 that day between numbers belonging to and 11 as well as statements. 12 Q If you could turn to pages 18 and 19 and if 13 you would address overt acts 106, 114 and 116. 14 A A review of the phone records indicate that 15 there is telephonic contact between and 16 on February 24th, 2005 as well as 17 statements. 18 Q Overt act number 114 says on March 18th, 2005 19 defendant prepared a written message to defendant 20 Epstein regarding Jane Doe number 4, could you tell the 21 Grand Jury what the evidence is related to that? 22 A we have a review of the message pads that were 23 recovered during the search warrant that the State 24 served that showed that wrote a message to 25 Epstein regarding and that was done on March 18th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085514 26 1 2005. 2 3 said? 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 reads is it okay if 11 a question mark. 12 13 14 15 16 and 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Do you happen to remember what the message A I have those with me. Q would you mind getting them out? A Do you want to mark it? Q If you could just read it to the Grand Jury. A It is a message written by for Jeffrey on 3/18/2005, it looks like 4:21 p.m., and the message will come at 5:00 and there is Q And if I could direct you to overt act number 116, what the evidence is related to that. A A review of the phone records on march 29th, 2005 indicate that there is telephonic contact between as well as her -- statements. Q And if I could take you to overt act number 127 which is on page 20. A A review of phone records on April 11th, 2005 indicate that there is telephonic phone contact between the numbers belonging to and as well as statements. Q Now, if you could go to Count number 8, which alleges that between April 25th, 2004 and June 29th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085515 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 set up, 8 have 9 massage 10 well as 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2005 Jeffrey Epstein, enticed Jane Doe number 4 to engage in sexual activity or prostitution. A On or about these dates we have a facility of interstate commerce, specifically the telephones, and which were utilized to arrange massage appointments for Epstein, we taking upstairs to set up the table, she would set the massage table up as set up the lotions and the oils, we have during those massages Epstein would grab and pull closer to him as he masturbated, he repeatedly would ask her to remove her clothing, wearing her bra and underwear, Epstein would pull down her bra and grabbed at her breast, he attempted to touch he at one point but she stopped him, he masturbated, she believes that he ejaculated, he paid her 5200, he told her that he would pay her to bring her pretty friends and would pay her more if she would do more. Q And just so that this is clear to the Grand Jury, June 29th of 2005 is the day before Jane Doe number 4 turned 18, is that correct? A Yes. Q so was there activity that continued past her 18th birthday? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085516 28 1 2 3 4 A Yes. Q If I could direct you to Count number 17, which appears on page 28, and tell us about the evidence related to that. 5 6 A we have evidence through flight records indicate on May 21st, 2004 that Epstein and that 7 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 8 Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between and 9 the day before or the day of travel and we 10 11 have the sexual conduct between Epstein and described earlier in Count 8. as we 12 Q And if you could go through Counts 18 and 19. 13 A we have flight records that indicate on June 14 4th, 2004 Epstein and traveled to Palm 15 Beach County on the Gulfstream, we have telephone 16 contact between and the day before, 17 the day of travel , we have sexual conduct between 18 Mr. Epstein and as discussed earlier. 19 We have also Count 19 on June 20th, 2004 we 20 have flight records that indicate that Epstein and 21 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 22 727. 23 we have the telephone contacts between 24 and the day before, the day of travel, we 25 also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085517 29 1 2 3 as we described earlier in Count 8. Q Could you do the same for Counts 22 and 23, please. 4 A Count 22 we have flight records that indicate 5 on July 22nd, 2004 Epstein, 6 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 7 727, we have the telephonic phone contact between 8 and the day before or the day of travel, we 9 also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 10 as we described earlier, and Count 23 we have 11 flight records that indicate on August 6th, 2004 Epstein 12 and traveled to Palm Beach County on the 13 Boeing 727, we have telephonic contact between 14 and I two days prior to Epstein and 15 traveling to Palm Beach County, we have sexual 16 conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and as we 17 described earlier. 18 Q And if you could do the same for Count number 19 28, please. 20 A Count number 28 we have flight records that 21 indicate on November 5th, 2004 Epstein, 22 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 23 Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between 24 and the day before or the day of travel, 25 we have the sexual conduct between Epstein and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085518 30 1 Q And if I could direct you to Count number 35, 2 you testified previously about the people who were 3 aboard the plane. 4 was there also telephone contact on January 5 6th -- excuse me, shortly before the flight on January 6 6th, 2005 between and this Jane Doe? 7 A Yes, two days before. 8 Q And if you look at Count number 40, again, you 9 had previously told us about who was on board the plane. 10 Can you tell us whether there was also telephone contact 11 shortly before that? 12 A There was telephone contact the day of or the 13 day before. 14 Q All right. Between who and who? 15 A Between and . 16 Q Okay. And if you could look at Count 43, you 17 also had testified previously about who was aboard the 18 plane on that day. 19 was there also telephone contact between Jane 20 Doe number 4 -- excuse me, Jane Doe number 4 and 21 ? 22 A Yes, two days before. 23 Q And if I could direct you to Count number 52, 24 which is the sex trafficking offense, and if you could 25 summarize again for the Grand Jury the evidence related OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085519 31 1 to that. 2 A we discussed in Count 8 the sexual conduct 3 that occurred between and Epstein during the 4 massages that took place, we talked about the money that S was paid to her by Mr. Epstein and the offer of more 6 money if she would do more as well as if she would bring 7 her friends. 8 Through statements we have also that 9 has paid her in the past for bringing a 10 friend, we have the phone activity between 11 and which started in April, 2004, we know 12 was 16 at the time, we also have phone activity between 13 and beginning in the spring of 2005 14 when would be 17, with the statements of and 15 the knowledge that Mr. Epstein knew their age, 16 and we have gone through that regarding informing 17 M . Epstein that she was a junior in high school , that 18 she was classmates with and then 19 statements that was concerned because she was 20 discussing prom with Mr. Epstein, and both girls at that 21 time of the phone calls were under the age of 18. 22 Q Just again so it is clear for the Grand Jury, 23 neither ever specifically said hey, 24 Jeffrey, I am 17, but they provided information that 25 should have caused him to try to figure out whether in OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085520 32 1 fact they were adults? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Any questions about Jane Doe number 4 before 4 we turn to Jane Doe number 5? YeS, ma'am. 5 A GRAND JUROR: I have to say something here, 6 if it is a stupid question forgive me if it is, 7 from what I heard, maybe I heard wrong, there were 8 three to four massages that Jane Doe, or 9 said that she had and you enumerated quite 10 a few sexual contact. 11 How do you know about this, do you have 12 records, how do you know they were sexual contact? 13 THE WITNESS: Through interviewing 14 A GRAND JUROR: She said she only had three to 15 four massages. 16 A GRAND JUROR: Her question is more like 17 there is 20 phone calls. 18 A GRAND JUROR: There is tons of them. 19 THE WITNESS: Exactly, that is what we were 20 discussing earlier when we discussed that there is 21 more than what is willing to admit at this 22 time. 23 A GRAND JUROR: I got it. So she said she 24 only had three to four. 25 A GRAND JUROR: There is a hundred phone OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085521 33 1 calls. 2 A GRAND JUROR: You said you found out through 3 ■, I am a little bit confused about that. 4 THE WITNESS: Through interviewing M r she 5 stated that she had three or four massages from 6 Mr. Epstein. 7 BY 8 Q Special Agent the sexual activity 9 that you described that went through, that is what 10 she said happened during those three to four massages, 11 correct? 12 A Right. 13 Q Does that answer your question? 14 A GRAND JUROR: Not really. How do we know 15 like about all these 25, 30? 16 A GRAND JUROR: There is more dates that match 17 up with the amount of massages. 18 A GRAND JUROR: There were a hundred phone 19 calls. 20 A GRAND JUROR: Are we supposed to assume a 21 phone call was made each time they had sexual 22 contact? 23 THE WITNESS: No. There are lots of phone 24 calls made arranging appointments between the 25 girls, that doesn't mean that every phone call that OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085522 34 1 was made was a trip over to Mr. Epstein's house to 2 perform a massage. 3 Yes, ma'am. 4 A GRAND JUROR: Couldn't they put anything in 5 this indictment about stalking her, are there any 6 rules against stalking children? 7 : I will address -- that is a 8 legal question that I will address when the Special 9 Agent is outside of the Grand Jury. Any other 10 factual questions related? 11 A GRAND JUROR: I don't have a question 12 relating to Jane Doe number 4, it was a question I 13 asked last week, what does Mr. Epstein do for work, 14 how does he make his money? I asked that late, 15 late in the game last week. 16 MS. VILLAFANA: Okay, i guess we can just 17 address that now. 18 BY 19 Q what is Mr. Epstein's state of profession? 20 A He is an investor. 21 Q And he manages portfolios valued at about a 22 billion or more? 23 A Yes. 24 Q who is his best known client? 25 A The owner of the Limited and Victoria Secret. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085523 35 1 2 3 4 Q And you mentioned that as gifts Mr. Epstein tended to give victoria Secrets panties and bra sets? A Yes. Q Does that answer the question? 5 A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 6 Yes, ma'am. 7 A GRAND JUROR: Count 28 I thought I heard 8 that -- I thought I heard the detective say that it 9 was the Gulfstream rather than the Boeing 727 on 10 flight records, just for your info. 11 Count number 28, let's go back 12 there. 13 B1 14 Q Could you restate for the Grand Jury which 15 company owns the Gulfstream? 16 A The Gulfstream is owned by Hyperion Air, Inc. 17 Q And the Boeing is owned by whom? 18 A JEGE, Inc. 19 Q Any other questions before we go on to Jane 20 Doe number 5? we have four minutes. 21 special Agent why don't I ask you 22 to step outside so I can answer that question for the 23 Grand Jury and address some issues. 24 (The witness was excused from the Grand Jury 25 room.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085524 36 1 (Questions posed by the Grand Jury.) 2 (The testimony of the witness was concluded 3 before the Grand Jury.) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085525 37 1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 2 3 4 5 I certify pages 2 through 36 are a true transcript of my 6 shorthand notes of the testimony of 7 efore the Federal Grand Jury, west Palm 8 Beach, Florida on the 15th day of Tuesday, 2007. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Commission Expires may 8, 2008 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085526 1 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH 3 4 5 6 7 8 IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 9 10 / 11 Grand Jury #07-103 (TUES-WPB) 12 West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, May 15, 2007 13 14 15 TESTIMONY 16 OF 17 18 19 20 21 APPEARANCE: 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085527 2 1 PROCEEDINGS 2 - - - 3 The sworn testimony of was taken 4 before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 5 701 Clematis Street, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, 6 State of Florida, on the 15th day of May, 2007. 7 , Registered Merit Reporter and Notary 8 Public was authorized to and did report the sworn 9 testimony. 10 Thereupon, 11 12 a witness of lawful age, having been first duly sworn by 13 the foreperson, testified on her oath as follows: 14 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 15 Q Good morning, Special Agent. Could you state 16 and spell your name for the record. 17 A Special Agent 18 19 Q And with whom do you work? 20 A The FBI here in west Palm Beach. 21 Q And are you here today on the continuing 22 investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 23 A Yes, I am. 24 Q And you are one of the case agents on this 25 investigation, correct? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085528 3 1 A Yes, I am. 2 Q The last time you were here we were discussing 3 the evidence supporting various overt acts and charges 4 related to Jane Does number 1 and 2? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Today we are going to start with 7 number 3. Can you tell the Grand Jury who 8 briefly your previous testimony about 9 summarize A Jane Doe number 3 is Jane Doe that is and her. and she first 10 11 started, we have first phone contact starting in December of 2004, with would have been 16 12 or 17 at that time, let me do the math real quick, she 13 would have been 16 -- sorry, I am sorry, she would have 14 been at that time 17, let's get it right, so she started 15 phone contact, started calling her in 16 September of 2004. 17 From testimony we know that went there 18 earlier, much earlier. which was Jane Doe 19 number 4 you will hear about next, they were good 20 friends and they both went in the spring of '04, prior 21 to 17th birthday, so did start giving 22 Mr. Epstein massages when she was 16, she performed a 23 few massages for Mr. Epstein and then took kind of a 24 little bit of a break. 25 The sexual activity that occurred with OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085529 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein when included was under the age of 18 the use of a vibrator on grabbing and fondling of her breasts and her buttock, she was given gifts by Mr. Epstein, she was given a vibrator, she was given Victoria secret underwear, she was also given a car that Mr. Epstein rented for her for a number of months, she was paid S200 by Mr. Epstein and was the one that primarily called■ that began favorites, to set up appointments and as you can see in December of '04. was also one of Mr. Epstein's according to several of the other girls. Q Just so the Grand Jury has an idea, how does that translate into the number of phone calls between and that you were able to calculate? A called her, I guess calls between the two of them ranged around 125 phone calls from December did tell 6th, 2004 until October, 2005. Q And just briefly can you remind the Grand Jury Hier tell Mr. Epstein her age? A No, they did not ever discuss, she did not him how old she was, but she did tell him where she planned on going to school and that she was in soccer. She stated that when it came to her age that Mr. Epstein didn't care. A5 I mentioned earlier, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085530 5 1 and were very good friends and would talk 2 about and Mr. Epstein would ask questions about 3 when was providing massages and as we will 4 talk about when we talk about Jane Doe number 4, which 5 is she told Mr. Epstein that she was a junior in 6 high school and that and her were in the same 7 classes together and that they were very good friends 8 and told us that at one point had come to 9 her because she had slipped about prom and she was 10 worried because Epstein was supposed to think she was 18 11 and she had talked about the prom an said she 12 never heard anything else about it and they never 13 brought it up. 14 Q Because, according to , Mr. Epstein 15 didn't care really how old the girls were? 16 A Exactly. 17 Q And she never mentioned he asked her for her 18 age or asked for any form of identification to show 19 whether she was or was not over 18? 20 A NO. 21 Q Now, if you could turn to the proposed 22 indictment and if I could ask you to look at overt act 23 number 59. 24 A we had a little knock at the door Do you 25 want me to get it? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085531 6 1 2 3 4 5 Q A number this is 4, Yes. (Thereupon, I will there was a brief pause.) let you see a picture of Jane Doe who we were talking about earlier, and Is there anyplace you want to put it 6 right down here in front? 7 Q And just so the record is clear, those are the 8 photographs that we showed to the Grand Jury last week? 9 A Yes, it is. 10 Q So if you could turn to overt act number 59 11 which appears on page 12, and if you could explain to 12 the Grand Jury the evidence we have related to that 13 phone call or phone calls on December 6th, 2004. 14 A On December 6th, 2004 a review of the phone 15 records indicate that there was telephonic phone contact 16 between the numbers belonging to and 17 as well as we have evidence with 18 statements of the phone calls being made to 19 her by 20 Q And overt act number 60? 21 A A review of the phone records indicate 22 telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to 23 and on December 12, 2004. 24 Q And overt act number 64? 25 A A review of the phone records indicate OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085532 7 1 2 3 4 telephonic and Q Jury, when contact between numbers belonging to on December 14th, 2004. it is clear to the Grand says that defendant And just so that the overt acts 5 made one or more telephone calls, that means that the 6 7 call is originating from correct? phone, is that 8 A Yes, it does. 9 Q And if you could turn to overt act number 71. 10 A On December 20th a review of the phone records 11 12 indicate that there was telephonic contact between and 13 Q And overt act number 797 14 A on January 6th, 2005 a review of phone records 15 indicate there was telephone contact between numbers 16 belonging to and 17 Q And number 83? 18 A on January 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 19 records indicate telephonic contact between numbers 20 belonging to and 21 Q And with respect to the other overt acts 22 related to the phone calls which would be 94, 100, 102, 23 24 104, 112, 118, 125, 129 and 132 is the evidence the same? 25 A Yes, on or about each of those dates a review OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085533 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 of the phone records indicated telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to and as well as statements. Q Now, if I could direct your attention to count number 7 which appears on page 26 of the draft indictment, that is a charge of indictment of a minor during the period of December 6th, 2004 through June 2nd of 2005, could you summarize for the Grand Jury the evidence related to that count. 10 11 12 A interstate and on or about these commerce, the dates the facility of telephone, specifically were utilized to set up 13 appointments, massage appointments for Epstein. 14 During the massages and on more than one 15 occasion Epstein , he 16 used a massager directly on he and Epstein 17 directed to straddle him while he masturbated 18 and rubbed his penis between her legs, he would 19 masturbate, he would reach through her legs as she was 20 straddling him, there was no penetration of his penis in 21 though. 22 He touched breasts, he would 23 masturbate. He pai' on multiple occasions $200. 24 Both and Jeffrey Epstein have escorted 25 upstairs for these massages and Mr. Epstein gave OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085534 9 1 2 3 4 vibrator, Victoria Secret bra and panty sets rented her a car for several months. And just so that it is clear, you mentioned he on several occasions, he paid her every time and he also Q paid her 5 she performed these lewd acts, correct? 6 A ves, 5200. 7 Q And is listed as a defendant with 8 respect to Jane Doe number 3 as well, and can you 9 explain to the Grand Jury a little bit more about who 10 is and why she is charged in this count? 11 A is one of Mr. Epstein's personal 12 assistants as well and she made appointments for him for 13 these massages. 14 we have contact between phone 15 and phone, she contacted approximately 16 25 times. 17 Q And that's why she is also charged with 18 someone who is either an aider or abetter or a 19 coconspirator with respect to this? 20 A ves. 21 Q okay. If I could direct your attention to 22 Count number 32 which appears on page 30, Count number 23 32. 24 A I got 32. 25 Q what is the evidence related to? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085535 10 1 A I am sorry, I didn't hear you ask me the 2 question, I thought you said refer to it. 3 The evidence is we have flight records that 4 indicate on December 13th, 2004 Epstein traveled to Palm 5 Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephonic 6 contact between and the day 7 before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 8 conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and as we 9 described earlier in Count 7. 10 Q And just to refresh the recollection of the 11 Grand Jury, the Gulfstream aircraft is the one owned by 12 Hyperion? 13 A Air, Inc. 14 Q And when you said that there was telephone 15 contact, you recall that in overt act number 60 that we 16 discussed phone calls on December 12th, correct? 17 A we did. 18 Q Okay. If I could direct you to Count number 19 35 and if you could tell the Grand Jury about the 20 evidence according to that count. 21 A Again, we have flight records that indicate 22 that on January 6th, 2005 Epstein traveled to Palm Beach 23 County on the Gulfstream again, there was telephonic 24 contact between and the day before, 25 the day of that travel, we also talked about the sexual OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085536 11 1 2 conduct between Jeffrey and between Epstein and 3 Q And can you tell us again what aircraft they 4 flew on on January 6th? 5 A That was the Gulfstream which was owned by 6 Hyperion Air, Inc. 7 Q Okay. If I could direct you to Count 36 and 8 again if you could summarize that evidence. 9 A we have flight records that indicate that on 10 January 14th, 2005 Epstein, and traveled to 11 Palm Beach county on the Boeing 727 that Mr. Epstein 12 owns, there was telephonic contact between 13 one the day before, the day of that 14 travel, as well as we have the sexual conduct between 15 Jeffrey Epstein and as we described 16 earlier, and I will tell you that is -- 17 , Mr. Epstein's personal assistant, and is 18 we talked about just a few minutes ago, 19 Mr. Epstein, another of Mr. Epstein's personal 20 assistants. 21 Q And if I could direct your attention to Count 22 37 and ask you to summarize the evidence related to that 23 count. 24 A we have flight records that indicate that on 25 February 3rd, 2005 Mr. Epstein and traveled OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085537 12 1 to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, there was 2 telephonic contact between and 3 the day before or the day of travel and we have 4 the sexual conduct between Epstein and 5 Q And if 1 could direct your attention to Count 6 number 38. 7 A In Count number 38 we have flight records that 8 indicate on February 10th, 2005 Mr. Epstein, 9 and traveled to 10 Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there was telephone 11 contact between and the day 12 before or the day of travel, we also have the sexual 13 conduct between Mr. Epstein and 14 Q Now, I am sorry, on Count number 38, which 15 airline were they on? 16 A They were on the Gulfstream. 17 Q Can 1 ask you to double-check that? There is 18 an inconsistency between the chart and the indictment or 19 we can save that for a later date. 20 A It is right here. 21 Q 1 will mark that we need to check on Count 22 number 38. 23 A I have the flight manifest with me if you want 24 me to check, I don't know if you want me to do that now. 25 Q Yes, if you don't mind. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085538 13 1 2 3 4 A February (Thereupon, there In Count 38, 10th, 2005 that and was a flight records Mr. Epstein, brief pause.) indicate on were in fact on the 5 Boeing 727. 6 Q So the draft indictment contains the correct 7 information? 8 A Yes, it does. 9 Q what company owns the Boeing 727? 10 A JEGE, Inc., Incorporated. 11 Q And if I could take you to Count number 39. 12 A Evidence shows through flight records that on 13 February 21st, 2005 Epstein, 14 and traveled to Palm Beach County on 15 the Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between 16 and the day before or the day 17 of travel, there was also the sexual conduct between 18 Epstein an 19 Q And if I could take you to Count number 40, 20 please. 21 A we have flight records that indicate on 22 February 24th, 2005 Epstein, 23 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 24 727, there was telephonic contact between 25 and the day before, the day of travel, and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085539 14 1 there was sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and as we described earlier in count 7. And if you could do Count 42. we have evidence that shows flight records, 2 3 Q 4 A 5 that flight records indicate that on March 18th, 2005 6 Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 727, 7 there was telephonic contact between and 8 the day of or the day before travel , we 9 have the sexual conduct between Mr. Epstein and 10 Q And just referring to that count, 11 is named, although she was not on the flight that day, 12 is that correct? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And you said that she made the telephone calls 15 with correct? 16 A Yes, and we also do have -- we have 17 interviewed Mr. Epstein's pilots and one of the pilots 18 indicated that was the one that arranged all of 19 Mr. Epstein's travel arrangements and so she is 20 responsible for making his arrangements to travel to 21 Palm Beach as well as call the girls for the 22 appointments. 23 Q If I could take you to count number 43, 24 please. 25 A Flight records indicate that on March 31st, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085540 15 1 2005 Mr. Epstein traveled to Palm Beach County on the 2 Boeing 727, there was telephonic contact between 3 and the day before or the day of travel , 4 we also have the sexual conduct between Epstein as 5 described earlier in Count 7. 6 Q Again, in Count 44, what is the evidence 7 related to that? 8 A Flight records indicate that on April 8th, 9 2005 Epstein and traveled to Palm Beach 10 11 12 County on the Gulfstream and there contact between and day before or the day of travel, was telephonic on the we also have the sexual 13 conduct between Mr. Epstein and . 14 Q And if you could go through 45, 46 and 47. 15 A Count 45 we have flight records that indicate 16 on April 27th, 2005 Epstein and traveled to 17 Palm Beach County on the Gulfstream, there is telephone 18 contact between and the day 19 before or the day of travel and we have the sexual 20 conduct between Jeffrey and 21 In Count 46 we have flight records that 22 indicate that on may 6th, 2005 Epstein, and 23 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 24 Gulfstream. 25 we have also telephonic contact between OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085541 16 1 2 3 4 and day of travel Epstein and we have flight either the day before or the the sexual conduct between in Count 47 on May 19th, 2005 indicate Epstein, and we have and records that 5 and traveled to Palm Beach County on 6 the Gulfstream and we have telephone contact between 7 and the day before or the day 8 of travel. 9 we also have the sexual conduct between 10 11 12 13 Epstein and as described in the earlier count, Count 7. Q Now, if I could direct your attention to Count number 51 which appears on page 33, that is the sex 14 trafficking of a minor involving Jane Doe number 3, and 15 could you briefly summarize that, the evidence related 16 to that. 17 A As we discussed earlier in Count 7, I told you 18 guys about the sexual conduct between Epstein and 19 the monies that were paid to by 20 21 Mr. Epstein, the phone activity we discussed between and , it began in December, 22 23 and we also have phone calls beginning in January from to at that time was 17 24 years of age, and we also have statements from 25 and regarding Mr. Epstein's knowledge of their OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085542 17 1 ages. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And with respect to the affect on interstate commerce related to that count we have both the telephone calls, correct? A Yes. Q AS well as Mr. Epstein actually traveling in interstate commerce to engage in this activity, correct? A Yes, we do. Q Is there anything else that you would like to mention about Jane Doe number 3? A Not at this time, no. Q If I could direct you to Jane Doe number 4 and if you could summarize for the Grand Jury the information related to Jane Doe number 4's activities. A Jane Doe number 4 is I think you wanted their birth dates, her birth date is she was 16 years old and attended High School. We first have contact through phone calls from to on April 25th, 2004 which indicates and shows that was clearly 16 years of age when she started going to Mr. Epstein's and performing massages for Mr. Epstein. our Jane Doe number 1, was the one who recruited she basically told that she OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085543 18 1 could make S200, she needed to dress cute, he might try 2 to touch you, but if you feel uncomfortable just let him 3 know and he will stop, and the first massage that 4 did he repeatedly told ■, and I mentioned this to 5 you in the last Grand Jury session, she was very shy and 6 he would repeatedly tell her not to be so shy, that she 7 didn't have to be so shy. 8 Epstein asked her to remove her clothing and 9 she told him no, and throughout the massage he would 10 repeatedly grab at her, he grabbed her butt, he did 11 masturbate through this first massage and pulled her 12 13 clothes, she would pull away and she was paid $200 for that 14 upon leaving the first massage Mr. Epstein 15 told that if was willing to do more she 16 would get paid more. He also informed that if she 17 would bring her pretty friends he would also pay her for 18 bringing her pretty friends. He told that 19 would get her phone number. 20 says that she performed three to four 21 massages for Mr. Epstein. We have with 22 23 approximately and a hundred phone calls between 24 When I interviewed she became very upset 25 when we got to the sexual massages that she did for OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085544 19 1 Mr. Epstein. At this point, this is as much as we know 2 at this point of what occurred with Mr. Epstein and 3 4 She did three to four massages and those last massages they became more sexual in nature, he asked her 6 again to remove her clothing, this time she took her 7 shirt off, he asked her to take her bra off, she said 8 no. 9 He again would touch her breasts, he would 10 touch her butt, he did continue to masturbate, this time 11 she believes he ejaculated. He continued to compliment 12 her, tell her she had a nice body and that she was 13 pretty. 14 says that he was very nice and engaged 15 her in conversation, asked her, you know, if she had a 16 boyfriend. In the last massage she discusses with me, 17 and this massage Mr. Epstein told her to stop being shy 18 and asked her to take her clothes off and said 19 that she had a boyfriend and she didn't feel comfortable 20 taking her clothes off and he told her you should know 21 what to expect by now when you come here, and he jerked 22 on her pants as to like jerk them down, so she did on 23 this last massage get down to her bra and underwear 24 She describes his tone at this time being 25 frustrated and irritated, she stayed in her bra and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085545 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 sex with her boyfriend, 8 9 10 11 12 13 massages, correct? 14 A Yes. 15 16 17 down and 18 A 19 Q 20 21 22 23 24 25 rapport is built? underwear, but during the massage he grabbed her bra and pulled it down and fondled her breasts, he had instructed her to pinch his chest, his nipples while she was massaging his chest, he tried to grab her all over, he knew that she was upset with this massage. At one point Mr. Epstein asked her if she had informs him that she is still a virgin and he responds what, you don't like sex? And that's pretty much the way that last massage went. Q Now, Special Agent just to interrupt you, you mentioned that Jane Doe number 4 became very upset as you were asking her about the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE Q And when she was describing this incident with him grabbing at her breast and trying to pull her pants instructing her to remove her pants, correct? Yes. You had talked last week about the expert that you had spoken with about interviewing victims of these types of offenses? A Right. Q And you had told us about how a victim may be reticent at first to tell the entire story until a EFTA00085546 21 1 A Right. 2 Q Can you tell the Grand Jury your impressions 3 of your interview with ? 4 A She became so visibly upset, and a lot of the 5 girls are embarrassed of what took place, but when she 6 talked about the last massage and him grabbing her 7 breasts and fondling her breasts she was in tears and we 8 stopped the massage and we calmed her down, trying to go 9 back there was just too difficult, I could not get her 10 11 12 back to discussing anything further that had taken place. 1 have since then -- 1 have since talked to 13 again and I feel there is more there, but I just 14 don't think she is ready to disclose what took place. 15 Q so based upon the more than 60 telephone calls 16 as well as -- 17 A Approximately a hundred. 18 Q -- 100 telephone calls and your conversations 19 with you think there is probably more than four 20 massages that happened? 21 A Yes, 1 do. 22 Q was there anything else that you wanted to 23 discuss with the Grand Jury? 24 A Just, as I stated in the beginning of those 25 massages, they engaged in conversation and throughout OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085547 22 1 2 that conversation, you know, she that she was a junior in high school did inform mr. Epstein and again she is 3 one of the girls that talks about being mr. 4 Epstein's favorite, so because Mr. Epstein knew they 5 were friends they would engage in conversation about 6 and 'would mention they were in the same 7 classes at school and they would discuss the friendship 8 they had between the two girls with Mr. Epstein and I 9 think that's it. 10 11 12 Q All right. If we could turn to the post-indictment to overt act number 4 which appears on page number 5. 13 Did you obtain telephone records for Jane Doe 14 number 4? 15 A Yes 16 Q And did you compare those with the phone 17 records of and others? 18 A Yes, I did. 19 Q And can you tell us with respect to overt act 20 number 4 what evidence you have related to that? 21 A A review of the phone records indicate that 22 there was telephonic contact between the numbers 23 belonging to and as well as s 24 statements that would call her to make 25 appointments. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085548 23 1 Q And if we could go through overt acts 6, 8, 9 2 and 11, all of which appear on page 6. 3 A A review of the phone records on may 3rd, 4 2004, may 14th, 2004, may 20th, 2004 and June 3rd, 2004, 5 a review of those phone records indicate that there was 6 telephonic contact between numbers belonging to 7 and as well as statements. 8 Q If 1 could take you to overt acts 14, 15 and 9 19 which appear on page 7. 10 A A review of the phone records on June 11th, 11 2004, June 20th, 2004 and July 10th, 2004, they indicate 12 that there is telephonic contact between the numbers 13 belonging to and 14 Q And if I could ask you to turn to page 8 and 15 if you could address overt acts 24 and 25. 16 A A review of the phone records on July 18th, 17 2004 and July 22nd, 2004, a review of and 18 phone records indicate there is 19 telephonic contact belonging to both of them as well as 20 statements that would arrange 21 appointments with her. 22 Q If I could take you to page 9 of the draft 23 proposed indictment and ask about overt acts 29 and 30. 24 A A review of the phone records indicate there 25 is telephonic contact on July 22nd, 2004 and August 4th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085549 24 1 tween numbers belonging to and 2 as well as statements. 3 Q If I could take you to page 10 of the draft 4 proposed indictment and ask you about overt acts 37 and 5 43. 6 A A review of phone records indicate telephonic 7 contact on August 25th, 2004 and October 3rd, 2004 8 between numbers belonging to and 9 10 11 Q And if you could turn to page 11 of the draft proposed indictment and if you would address overt acts 12 47 and 48. 13 A A review of the phone records indicate 14 telephonic contact on October 30th, 2004 and November 15 4th, 2004 between numbers belonging to and 16 as well statements. 17 Q okay. And if you could go to page 14 of the 18 draft proposed indictment and address overt act number 19 77. 20 A A review of phone records indicate that on 21 22 23 January 4th, 2005 and statements. there was telephonic contact as well as between 24 Q I'm sorry. If you could turn to page 16 of 25 the draft proposed indictment and address overt act OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085550 25 1 number 87. 2 A A review of the phone records indicate that on 3 January 22, 2005 there is telephonic phone contact 4 between numbers belonging to and and 5 I believe I said on January 22nd, 2005. 6 Q Okay. And if you could go to page 17 and 7 address overt act number 101. 8 A On February 14th, 2005 a review of the phone 9 records indicate that there was telephonic contact on 10 between numbers belonging to and 11 as well as statements. 12 Q If you could turn to pages 18 and 19 and if 13 you would address overt acts 106, 114 and 116. 14 A A review of the phone records indicate that 15 there is telephonic contact between and 16 on February 24th, 2005 as well as 17 statements. 18 Q Overt act number 114 says on march 18th, 2005 19 defendant prepared a written message to defendant 20 Epstein regarding Jane Doe number 4, could you tell the 21 Grand Jury what the evidence is related to that? 22 A we have a review of the message pads that were 23 recovered during the search warrant that the State 24 served that showed that wrote a message to 25 Epstein regarding and that was done on March 18th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085551 26 1 2005. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Q Do you happen to remember what the message said? A I have those with me. Q would you mind getting them out? A Do you want to mark it? Q If you could just read it to the Grand Jury. A It is a message written by for Jeffrey on 3/18/2005, it looks like 4:21 p.m., and the message 10 11 reads is it okay if will come at 5:00 and there is a question mark. 12 Q And if 1 could direct you to overt act number 13 116, what the evidence is related to that. 14 A A review of the phone records on March 29th, 15 2005 indicate that there is telephonic contact between 16 17 and statements. as well as her -- 18 Q And if 1 could take you to overt act number 19 127 which is on page 20. 20 A A review of phone records on April 11th, 2005 21 indicate that there is telephonic phone contact between 22 the numbers belonging to and as well 23 as .tatements. 24 Q Now, if you could go to Count number 8, which 25 alleges that between April 25th, 2004 and June 29th, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085552 27 1 2 3 4 2005 Jeffrey Epstein, Jane Doe number prostitution. A On or enticed or facility of 4 to engage in sexual activity about these dates we have a S interstate commerce, specifically the telephones, 6 and which were utilized to 7 8 set up, arrange have massage appointments for Epstein, we taking upstairs to set up the 9 massage table, she would set the massage table up as 10 well as set up the lotions and the oils, we have during 11 those massages Epstein would grab and pull closer 12 to him as he masturbated, he repeatedly would ask her to 13 remove her clothing, wearing her bra and underwear, 14 Epstein would pull down her bra and grabbed at her 15 16 breast, he attempted but she stopped to touch heft him, he masturbated, she believes one point that 17 he ejaculated, he paid her $200, he told her that he 18 would pay her to bring her pretty friends and would pay 19 her more if she would do more. 20 Q And just so that this is clear to the Grand 21 22 Jury, June 29th of 2005 is the day before Jane Doe number 4 turned 18, is that correct? 23 A Yes. 24 Q So was there activity that continued past her 25 18th birthday? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085553 28 1 A Yes. 2 Q If 1 could direct you to Count number 17, 3 which appears on page 28, and tell us about the evidence 4 related to that. 5 A we have evidence through flight records that 6 indicate on may 21st, 2004 that Epstein and 7 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 8 Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between and 9 the day before or the day of travel and we 10 have the sexual conduct between Epstein and as we 11 described earlier in Count 8. 12 Q And if you could go through Counts 18 and 19. 13 A we have flight records that indicate on June 14 4th, 2004 Epstein and traveled to Palm 15 Beach County on the Gulfstream, we have telephone 16 contact between and the day before, 17 the day of travel, we have sexual conduct between 18 Mr. Epstein and as discussed earlier. 19 we have also Count 19 on June 20th, 2004 we 20 have flight records that indicate that Epstein and 21 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 22 727. 23 we have the telephone contacts between 24 and the day before, the day of travel, we 25 also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085554 29 1 as we described earlier in Count 8. 2 Q Could you do the same for Counts 22 and 23, 3 please. 4 A Count 22 we have flight records that indicate 5 on July 22nd, 2004 Epstein, 6 traveled to Palm Beach County on the Boeing 7 727, we have the telephonic phone contact between 8 and the day before or the day of travel, we 9 also have the sexual conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and 10 as we described earlier, and Count 23 we have 11 flight records that indicate on August 6th, 2004 Epstein 12 and traveled to Palm Beach County on the 13 Boeing 727, we have telephonic contact between 14 and two days prior to Epstein and 15 traveling to Palm Beach County, we have sexual 16 conduct between Jeffrey Epstein and as we 17 described earlier. 18 Q And if you could do the same for Count number 19 28, please. 20 A Count number 28 we have flight records that 21 indicate on November 5th, 2004 Epstein, 22 traveled to Palm Beach County on the 23 Gulfstream, we have telephonic contact between 24 and the day before or the day of travel, 25 we have the sexual conduct between Epstein and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085555 30 1 Q And if I could direct you to Count number 35, 2 you testified previously about the people who were 3 aboard the plane. 4 was there also telephone contact on January 5 6th -- excuse me, shortly before the flight on January 6 6th, 2005 between and this Jane Doe? 7 A Yes, two days before. 8 Q And if you look at Count number 40, again, you 9 had previously told us about who was on board the plane. 10 Can you tell us whether there was also telephone contact 11 shortly before that? 12 A There was telephone contact the day of or the 13 day before. 14 Q All right. Between who and who? 15 A Between and 16 Q Okay. And if you could look at Count 43, you 17 also had testified previously about who was aboard the 18 plane on that day. 19 was there also telephone contact between Jane 20 Doe number 4 -- excuse me, Jane Doe number 4 and 21 ? 22 A Yes, two days before. 23 Q And if I could direct you to Count number 52, 24 which is the sex trafficking offense, and if you could 25 summarize again for the Grand Jury the evidence related OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085556 31 1 2 to that. A we discussed in Count 8 the sexual conduct 3 that occurred between and Epstein during the 4 massages that took place, we talked about the money that 5 was paid to her by Mr. Epstein and the offer of more 6 money if she would do more as well as if she would bring 7 her friends. 8 Through statements we have also that 9 has paid her in the past for bringing a 10 friend, we have the phone activity between 11 and which started in April, 2004, we know 12 was 16 at the time, we also have phone activity between 13 and beginning in the spring of 2005 14 when would be 17, with the statements of and 15 , the knowledge that Mr. Epstein knew their age, 16 and we have gone through that regarding informing 17 Mr. Epstein that she was a junior in high school, that 18 she was classmates withl , and then 19 statements that was concerned because she was 20 discussing prom with Mr. Epstein, and both girls at that 21 time of the phone calls were under the age of 18. 22 Q Just again so it is clear for the Grand Jury, 23 neither nor ever specifically said hey, 24 Jeffrey, I am 17, but they provided information that 25 should have caused him to try to figure out whether in OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085557 32 1 fact they were adults? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Any questions about Jane Doe number 4 before 4 we turn to Jane Doe number 5? Yes, ma'am. 5 A GRAND JUROR: I have to say something here, 6 if it is a stupid question forgive me if it is, 7 from what I heard, maybe I heard wrong, there were 8 three to four massages that Jane Doe, or 9 said that she had and you enumerated quite 10 a few sexual contact. 11 How do you know about this, do you have 12 records, how do you know they were sexual contact? 13 THE WITNESS: Through interviewing 14 A GRAND JUROR: She said she only had three to 15 four massages. 16 A GRAND JUROR: Her question is more like 17 there is 20 phone calls. 18 A GRAND JUROR: There is tons of them. 19 THE WITNESS: Exactly, that is what we were 20 discussing earlier when we discussed that there is 21 more than what is willing to admit at this 22 time. 23 A GRAND JUROR: I got it. So she said she 24 only had three to four. 25 A GRAND JUROR: There is a hundred phone OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085558 33 1 calls. 2 A GRAND JUROR: You said you found out through 3 I am a little bit confused about that. 4 THE WITNESS: Through interviewing she 5 stated that she had three or four massages from 6 Mr. Epstein. 7 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 8 Q Special Agent the sexual activity 9 that you described that went through, that is what 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 she said happened during those three to four massages, correct? A Right. Q Does that answer your question? A GRAND JUROR: Not really. How do we know like about all these 25, 30? A GRAND JUROR: There is more dates that match up with the amount of massages. A GRAND JUROR: There were a hundred phone calls. A GRAND JUROR: Are we supposed to assume a phone call was made each time they had sexual contact? THE WITNESS: No. There are lots of phone calls made arranging appointments between the girls, that doesn't mean that every phone call that OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085559 34 1 was made was a trip over to Mr. Epstein's house to 2 perform a massage. 3 MS. VILLAFANA: Yes, ma'am. 4 A GRAND JUROR: Couldn't they put anything in 5 this indictment about stalking her, are there any 6 rules against stalking children? 7 MS. VILLAFANA: I will address -- that is a 8 legal question that I will address when the Special 9 Agent is outside of the Grand Jury. Any other 10 factual questions related? 11 A GRAND JUROR: I don't have a question 12 relating to Jane Doe number 4, it was a question I 13 asked last week, what does Mr. Epstein do for work, 14 how does he make his money? I asked that late, 15 late in the game last week. 16 MS. VILLAFANA: Okay, I guess we can just 17 address that now. 18 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 19 Q What is Mr. Epstein's state of profession? 20 A He is an investor. 21 Q And he manages portfolios valued at about a 22 billion or more? 23 A Yes. 24 Q who is his best known client? 25 A The owner of the Limited and Victoria Secret. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085560 35 1 2 3 4 Q And you mentioned that as gifts mr. Epstein tended to give Victoria Secrets panties and bra sets? A Yes. Q Does that answer the question? 5 A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 6 MS. VILLAFANA: Yes, ma'am. 7 A GRAND JUROR: Count 28 I thought I heard 8 that -- I thought I heard the detective say that it 9 was the Gulfstream rather than the Boeing 727 on 10 flight records, just for your info. 11 MS. VILLAFANA: Count number 28, let's go back 12 there. 13 BY • 14 Q could you restate for the Grand Jury which 15 company owns the Gulfstream? 16 A The Gulfstream is owned by Hyperion Air, Inc. 17 Q And the Boeing is owned by whom? 18 A JEGE, Inc. 19 Q Any other questions before we go on to Jane 20 Doe number 5? we have four minutes. 21 Special Agent why don't I ask you 22 to step outside so I can answer that question for the 23 Grand Jury and address some issues. 24 (The witness was excused from the Grand Jury 25 room.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085561 36 1 (Questions posed by the Grand Jury.) 2 (The testimony of the witness was concluded 3 before the Grand Jury.) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085562 37 1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 2 3 4 5 I certify pages 2 through 36 are a true transcript of my 6 shorthand notes of the testimony of 7 before the Federal Grand )ury, west Palm 8 Beach, Florida on the 15th day of Tuesday, 2007. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Commission Notary Public Expires May 8, 2008 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085563 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA ORIGINAL RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR TESTIMONY OF SPECIAL AGENT Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, May 22, 2007 APPEARANCES: Assistant Unite States Attorney Foreperson r OFFICIAL vPrtroTTnin qFPV CE, LLC EFTA00085564 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, May 22, 2007. Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085565 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION Q Good afternoon, Special Agent. A Good afternoon. Q Could you remind the grand jury ut your name and with whom you are employed? A It's I'm a special agent with the FBI here in West Palm Beach and I work violent crimes. Are you the case agent on Operation Leap Year? A Yes, I am. Q Okay. Before we get back to our review of the draft proposed indictment, I know that a question was raised regarding whether the grand jury transcripts are being made available to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085566 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 counsel for the defense, are they? A No. Q And is Mr. Epstein considered a high flight risk by the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's Office? A Yes, he is. Q So is the status of the investigation in terms of when an indictment might be returned considered highly confidential? A Yes. Q And are there any personal relationships between any members of the U.S. Attorney's Office and counsel for Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Q And is that one of the reasons why we have decided to use, In Re: Abbott, when referring to this case? A Yes. Q Okay. Now we had left off just prior to the beginning of the discussion of Jane Doe Number Five. Could you tell the grand jury a little bit about Jane Doe Number Five? A Jane Doe Number Five is ▪ Her date of birth is We have phone activity that began with when she was 1 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085567 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 years old beginning in November of 2004, going through to almost April, I guess, to the end of March 2005. We have contact, between and telephone with contact approximately 70 phone calls in that time period as well as approximately seven phone calls with regarding the setting up of appointments to provide massages to Mr. Epstein. Q Now did explain how she was first introduced to Mr. Epstein? A Yes, she did. that approached there. High School . was the one also attends as well as our other the Jane Does up told her that she would need to wear something sexy, that she would be providing Mr. Epstein with a massage and that she would receive $200, and if she was asked she should tell Mr. Epstein that she was 18. On the first massage that went to Mr. Epstein's house, she removed her shirt at his request and she performed the massage. She was paid $300 for that massage. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085568 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 During that massage, she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18 years of age. He asked her age. They also discussed many things that was interested in. They talked about his ranch. They talked about horses. They actually also talked about cars. At one point later on, Mr. Epstei:. let's her drive a brand new Lexus, test drive a brand new Lexus. So those were some of her interests and Mr. Epstein talked to her about that. told us that the massages became more sexual in nature and she stated that she did more than ten massages, but that she couldn't quite put a number on how many massages she provided to Mr. Epstein, but it was definitely more than ten. She was not when she was interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department, she did tell them that it was more around five or six massages. She stated that she minimized to the detectives when they came to interview her. They came to her house and her dad way due home any time and what was foremost on her mind was my dad is going to be here any minute OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085569 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 She cooperated. She told them what had happened, but she minimized it more in an effort that she just wanted them to leave before her parents got home. At this point, her parents were not aware of what took place. As the massages became more sexual in nature, she describes that the first sexual massage -- he always instructed her on what to do, and on the first massage he had asked her to remove her clothing. She was down to her underwear at this point. He asked her to straddle him while he laid face up and continued to massage his chest and pinch his nipples and rub his chest. He at that point reached through her legs and masturbated. On another occasion, she was completely nude and she did several of the massages in the nude for Mr. Epstein. In this particular massage, she stated that Mr. Epstein licked his hand and went down and stroked and actually penetrated her She pulled away and he said that he wanted to touch her and that he also wanted to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085570 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 taste her. He stopped at that time, but then before the massage was over, he her again. He had used a back massager on her on at least two occasions. She did not like that and she told him that and he responded something to the effect: What are you scared to have pleasure? And she told him she didn't like it. On the second to the last massage that gave Mr. Epstein, she was giving him a massage and he took her into the bedroom and asked her to get fully unclothed. He actually took a phone call and told her that she should get undressed and lay on the bed completely naked. He just wanted to'look at her. He took his phone call. After the phone call was over, he ended up as well as performing oral sex on She said that she felt very dirty after that massage or after that time and she had decided that the next massage would be her last massage, that she did not want to go back. During the last massage she gave, she kept looking at the clock. Mr. Epstein commented OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085571 9 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and noticed that she was looking at the clock and she made reference to that her boyfriend was waiting and Mr. Epstein said that, you know, she was ruining his massage and that if she didn't want to be here she Should leave. She told him at this time this would be her last massage. She was paid anywhere from $300 to $600 during the time that she worked for Mr. Epstein. It was who took her upstairs that first time or took her upstairs and set up the massage table. She was given some gifts by Mr. Epstein as well. She received bra and pantie sets from him, Victoria Secret bra and pantie sets. She also received a book of poetry from Mr. Epstein. She was Western Unioned a wire of $200 as a Christmas bonus to from Mr. Epstein. Q How did get to and from Mr. Epstein's home? A She had a vehicle that she would drive if she didn't ride with one of the other girls. If she was grounded and could not get to Mr. Epstein's house, he would send a car for her. There was a local taxi service and she stated that on several occasions it was a Lincoln OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085572 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Town Car that was sent and there was an individual by the name of that she got to know pretty well on the drives to and from Mr. Epstein's house, but that even when she didn't have transportation on those particular times, that a car was house. Q sent for her to bring her to Mr. Epstein's Is there anything else that you wanted to tell the grand jury about A That's it. Q All right. If I could direct you to the proposed draft indictment, draft proposed indictment, and ask you to look at the Overt Art that involve Jane Doe Number Five and Specifically Overt Acts 53, 58, 61 , 65, 69, 74, 81 , 91 , 98, 107, and 111 . Can you explain to the grand jury what the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? A We have reviewed phone records that indicates that there was telephonic contact between and on those dates as well as statements that was arranging the appointments. Q All right. And if I can refer you to Overt Act Number 72, which states on or about OFFICIAL RFPC1RTTNI1 SPRVTrE, LEC EFTA00085573 1 1 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 December 23, 2004, Defendant Epstein caused a Western Union wire transfer order to be sent to Jane Doe Number Five. What evidence do you have to support that? A We have have the Western received Q issued [statements and we also Union receipt showing that she that amount of money. And those were in response to a subpoena on behalf of this grand jury? A Yes. Q If I could direct you to Overt Act Number 82 involving What is the basis for that Overt Act? A Again, a review of the phone records from and telephone indicate that they had contact at that time. Q And Overt Act Number 88 states that on or about January 26, 2005, Defendant reviewed a telephone message from Jane Doe Number Five. What is the basis for that allegation? A We have reviewed the message pads that were recovered during the execution of the state search warrant and recovered a message that left for confirming an appointment OFFICIAL RFPCIRTTNr SFRVTCE , LLC EFTA00085574 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that I have a copy of that if you want me to read that to you. Q Sure. A It's a message for dated January 26th, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from and it says, in parentheses, you know the number, and it says she is confirming 5:30 p.m. Q All right. And then with respect to Overt Acts Numbers 108 and 115 related to Ms. , what is the evidence supporting those Overt Acts? A Again, a review of the phone records of and We show that there was telephonic contact on those dates. Q And then if I could refer you to substantive offense Count Number Nine, which is the enticement charge. Can you just remind the grand jury of the evidence supporting that allegation? A On or about those dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone between , and Those telephones were used to set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. As we OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVI E, LLC EFTA00085575 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 discussed earlier during the massage the sexual activity that took place, the straddling of him by where he began to masturbate between his -- between her legs, excuse me, while she continued to massage him and rub his nipples, him asking her to become completely nude. He her, as we talked about. He used a back massager on her on at least two occasions, and he had sexual intercourse with Felicia as well as performed ora] sex on He paid anywhere from $300 to $600. He provided her with gifts, a poetry book, Victoria Secret underwear. It was who had set up the room with the massage table and set out the oils. And then, of course, we did discuss the private car that was sent to her when she wasn't available to drive herself. He did pay a -- I didn't mention this earlier -- he paid a truck payment for her when she was short on money. So that was another thing that Mr. Epstein provided to and she was 17 during all of this activity. Q All right. And if I could refer you to OFFICIAL PPD(IDTThIn crpvtrs, LLC EFTA00085576 14 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Count Number 53, which is the sex trafficking offense. Is the information that you just summarized the same information that supports that count? A Yes. The only thing I wanted to tell you regarding her age, she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18 on the first visit. A couple of visit:. later they discussed her birthday. They were talking about her birthday and her plans for her birthday and Mr. Epstein asked her -- said something to the effect like: You are going to be 18? And she said yes. And he said: So you are not 18? She laughed and said no and they kind of laughed and they continued on with the massage. So Mr. Epstein was aware through that conversation that had not yet turned 18. Q All right. Are there any questions regarding before we continue? All right. Let's turn now to Jane Doe Number Six. THE WITNESS: Did we do the count, the traveling count? No, we are not going to OFFICIAL CE, LLC EFTA00085577 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY do those today. THE WITNESS: Okay. Q And if you could tell us Jane Doe Number Six's first name and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Six is . She also attended High School and her date of birth is Q How did Jane Doe Number Six come to be introduced to Mr. Epstein? A also contacted -- or told about providing massages to Mr. Epstein. She told -- which I'm going to refer to her as That's what she goes by, but her name is That he wanted cute girls to give him massages and that he would pay $200. We had have contact starting with in July of 2000 between and that phone contact continues until September 2005. Between this time period, we have over 200 -- approximately 225 calls between and brought Du r n first massage, over there and was paid $200 by Mr. Epstein. She left. performed the first OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085578 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massage topless. He asked her to take her skirt and her shirt off. She said no at first and later in the massage, the way puts it, is that he talked her into it and she removed her shirt, which she was not wearing a bra at the time. Mr. Epstein fondled her breasts. He asked her to remove her panties and she said no. He masturbated and as soon as he ejaculated, the massage was over. She was paid $200 for that. She, at that point, she did start working for Epstein on a regular basis. She indicated that she had been there hundreds of times over this time period. She told us -- and I'm going to read a quote to you that she said to me or said to not to me but to law enforcement -- she said -- and this is referring to after the first time that she went there. She said I first told him that I had a problem with it, what happened the first time, but $200 for 45 minutes that was a lot for a 16-year-old girl making six bucks an hour. Now that was a statement she made to law enforcement. Going through her phone records and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085579 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 during her interview with law enforcement, she goes back and forth on whether she is 16 or 17. It's now over a year since she started working -- a year and a half since she started working for Mr. Epstein and going back and trying to retrace her age, she did say that, but we believe at that time she was 17 due to the phone contact. So we are not sure when that first massage started, but the phone contact with began in July of '04 when she would have• been 17. Q And just to be clear, during that interview with law enforcement, did have access to her phone records? A No. Q And the interviewing officer also didn't have access to those records, correct? A No. Q So she was just saying she couldn't remember if she was 16 or 17 at the time? A Right. As I said, she became kind of a regular. He increased her pay to $300 to $400 as long as he could touch her. She stated that the massages OFFICIAL RF.PORTTNC SRRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085580 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 would progress over time and at first she would not take off her panties, then she did. She performed the massages naked. He would rub He also He performed oral sex on He would masturbate while rubbing himself on breasts. Later in the times that was performing the massages, he requested that she become sexually involved with Mr. Epstein asked and that if she to perform oral sex on refused and Mr. Epstein told her was to perform oral sex on for five minutes, he would give her another $200. So she did. and engaged in sexual activity less than five times. Mr. Epstein would also partake in that sexual activity as well. On one occasion with all three of them, as we had mentioned earlier in a grand jury session, the massage was over and was standing up near the massage table and Mr. Epstein bent her face down and held her head and I think she described it as that he went OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085581 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 four or five times with his penis and she had a rule with Mr. Epstein that at first was that he would not ever penetrate her with any object, anything. And when he first her on the first time, she, you know, asked him why he was doing that. He said: Oh, I thought we had done this before. And later he continues to her. On this occasion, she said: What are you doing? And he said that he just wanted to see this. Q So at the time that that occurred, she still had a rule with him, but the rule was that he would not penetrate her vagina with his penis? A Right. And Mr. Epstein gave -- we'll talk about several gifts. One of the gifts that Mr. Epstein gave was a 2005 Dodge Neon. It only had seven miles on it. believes that that car was bought for her. We have reason to believe it was most likely rented and we are determining that right now, but he gave her this. It only had seven miles and she gave OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085582 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that back to him before she got out of high school. And she said, and this is her quote: It got too sticky for me. He wanted more than I was willing to give. She stated that Epstein requested her to have sex with him multiple times and also wanted him to -- wanted her to perform oral sex on him and she refused to do that, and Mr. Epstein knew that that was not going to happen. And, again, that's one of the reasons why she ended up giving back the car because it just was getting a little bit, as she referred to, sticky for her. After that occasion, where he did penetrate her vagina, he paid her $1 ,000 after that. Some of the gifts that she received other than the car, she describes that as Victoria Secret underwear and a bra and pantie set she received. She received Christmas bonuses, movie tickets, VIP show tickets. She went to the David Copperfield show. She met with him. She went to the after party. She received a Louis Vuitton bag. was in a play at her high school OFFICIAL REPORTTNn SERVTrF, LLC EFTA00085583 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and Mr. Epstein sent her a dozen roses -- or two dozen roses, I believe, to her high school, had them delivered to her high school while she was performing at this play. He also for her 18th birthday, he flew her to New York for her 18th birthday, and she was flown up there on her birthday and that was done because Mr. Epstein didn't want to have to deal with the parental consent needed to fly somebody under the age of 18 to New York. So on her 18th birthday with his funding, she flew to New York. She received show tickets to the Phantom of the Opera. Epstein was not present in New York at this time. He was called away and was not there. So she does have friends in New York and she stayed with those friends and attended the show that Mr. Epstein had purchased those tickets for. The other thing about is she said that she would get paid every time she would go over there and she said she feels like she went over there hundreds of times. She said that sometimes he would just have her naked watching TV or reading a book. He would sometimes just ask her to lay with him OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085584 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 naked. She was still always paid and he would invite her over for breakfast. He would invite her to dinner and sometimes just to use the pool, but that she was always paid for coming over there. Q Let me ask about a couple of other things. You mentioned the specific conversation about she could only fly up on her 18th birthday so that he wouldn't have to get parental consent for her flight? A Yes. Q And you mentioned the delivery of the roses to the high school. In addition to those, were other events that occurred that should have led Mr. Epstein or probably did lead Mr. Epstein to know that she was under the age of 18? A Yes. One of the things that told me is that she believed she stayed with him so long because she believed that he was going to help her get into New York University, NYU. She provided him on multiple occasions paperwork. One being her transcript. Trying to, you know, do what she could to keep her grades up, do what she could in the hopes that Mr. Epstein with his influence residing in New York was going OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085585 23 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to be able to get her into NYU. That again is one of the reasons why she stayed because she felt that if she held on for so long hoping that this dream would come true. She is currently attending and doing very well. Q Do we have any other documentation of receiving payments from someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? A We have manager for Mr. Epstein his petty cash receipts that he paid out of Q Now was lineup? A Yes, she was. It was a house and we were able to get and in there is a payment his funds to ■ =. ever shown any photo Q And was she able to identify any of the defendants? A She identified Q And was that the photo array that was shown to her? A Yes, it was. Q was are counsel for the defendants aware of Epstein? allegations against Mr. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085586 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q And have they attempted to discredit her? A Yes. Q And is one of the bases for their attempt to discredit her the fact that she didn't appear before the State Grand Jury? A Yes. Q Are you aware of whether or not was ever subpoenaed to appear before the State Grand Jury? A There was a subpoena issued to her. I'm not sure if she received that. Either she received it the day before or she didn't receive it she at is all up and in I would need to check mind you. my notes and So she was either served the day before that grand jury convened or she never received it and I would need to check with probably the detective for sure on that. Q Okay. Let's talk about the allegations related to Jane Doe Number Six in the proposed indictment. If I could refer you to Overt Acts Numbers 21 , 26, 34, 38, 49, 51, 52, 55, 62, 68, and 73. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085587 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 If you could tell the grand jury what the evidence is that supports those allegations? A Review of those phone records on those dates indicate that there was telephonic contact between and as well as statements that she was called by prior to and while Mr. Epstein was in town. Q All right. And if I could refer you to Overt Act Number 57, which states on or about December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a written message to Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. Could you tell the grand jury about that? A We have reviewed message pads that, again, were obtained in the execution of a state search warrant that indicates that left a message for Mr. Epstein regarding and Britnay, who is Jane Doe Number Seven, and I have that here. If I can read it to you? Q Sure. A For Jeffrey, dated 12-4-2004. The time is 2:55 p.m. It's from would like to work at 4 p.m. if possible. In parentheses, is scheduled for 5:00 today. The movie is at OFFICIAI, REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085588 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 7:30. Q Okay. And if I could refer you to Count Number Ten, and if you could summarize for the grand jury -- first, if you could refer to the dates contained in that count, on July 15th, 2004, until December 29th, 2004, what was the significance of those dates? A This would be the time period that ■ is still under the age of 18. Q That she was receiving phone calls from someone who worked for Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Q Okay. And then if you could just summarize the remainder of the evidence according to that count? A Okay. On or about those dates a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, specifically and telephones were utilized to set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein. During the massages, Epstein breasts. Epstein used the back and vibrator directly on performed oral sex on fondled massager vagina. Epstein and Epstein penetrated Alex's with his penis. OFFICIAI DVDADMTMC C_VOULPF , LLC EFTA00085589 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein introduced into the sexual activity with and engaged in sexual activity while Epstein watched and masturbated. Epstein on and when for five minutes. asked to perform oral sex she refused he offered her $200 complied. There were different sex toys used on including a strap-on dildo that used. Epstein paid $200 up to $1 ,000 depending on the sexual activity that took place. had taken upstairs. She set up for the massage. Epstein paid for a trip to New York for her 18th birthday, gave her Phantom of the Opera tickets. He rented or provided a car to He delivered roses to her high school, gave her a Louis Vuitton bag, gave her a Victoria Secret bra and pantie set. He also provided her with a bathing sun on a return trip he had to Brazil. He told her that he was going to help her get into New York University. She believed that was the case. She provided him with her high school transcript and she was 17 at the time. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085590 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And with respect to Count Number 54, is that the same evidence that supports that count? A Yes, it does. Q Okay. Before we go on, I know that you mentioned with respect to both Jane Doe Number Five and Jane Doe Number Six that they were introduced to Mr. Epstein by Is another Jane Doe who will be discussed at a later time? A Yes. MS. VILLAFANA: Any questions about Jane Doe Number Six? Yes. A GRAND JUROR: I don't know if I'm allowed to ask this, and you don't have to answer it, but how did the parents -- do they ask where she got the car and a Louis Vuitton purse? I mean, how do they not know anything like a car? BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Did you have you interviewed parents? A No. MS. VILLAFANA: Yes. A GRAND JUROR: My question is that OFFICIAL PRPORTTrin cFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085591 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 noticed you are skipping all the travel. Is that something that you are going to discuss? MS. VILLAFANA: In the future. As I mentioned before, there's -- that question is pending and I want to get a definitive answer before we go through that. A GRAND JUROR: I must have missed that. A GRAND JUROR: I don't see a Count 54 on this. A GRAND JUROR: Because it is on the next page. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you. THE WITNESS: Just to answer a question. The Palm Beach Police Department -- did tell the Palm Beach Police Department that her mother believed that she worked there, and I would need to go back and check, but I believe that she worked there as a -- I want to say like an assistant or answered the phones or something like that. And at one point, her mother thought there might have been more going on and actually did end going over there for a time period, but then she did resume later. OFFICIAL ”nnnm-rmn enn"ICE, LLC EFTA00085592 30 1 A GRAND JUROR: Okay. 2 MS. VILLAFANA: Any other questions? 3 Okay. 4 BY MS. VILLAFANA: 5 Q And we will turn to Jane Doe Number 6 Seven. Could you tell the grand jury the first 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 name of Jane Doe Number Seven and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Seven is and her date of birth is Q How did come to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A worked illip Jane Doe Number Six told through working at at the mall, and that the mall, and or that she coulc make extra money by providing a massage to Mr. Epstein. naked for this massage, she didn't told her that she may have to be but if she didn't want to have to. We have the contact, the telephonic contact between and beginning in July 2004 and through November of 2005. There is approximately 100 calls between and and there is around OFFICIAL RFPoRTTNe SFRVTrE, LLC EFTA00085593 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 1 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 seven calls, approximately seven calls to in between and and approximately eight calls between and stated that she went about 15 times to Mr. Epstein's house. is the first Jane Doe we have talked about that goes to High School and does not attend High School. On first massage, took upstairs for the first massage and set up the room. Epstein instructed to leave the room. During the massage, Epstein asked to remove her clothing. She removed only her shirt. she described converse with 8 different life issues such as where described Epstein as being him as a respective guy, who would her. She said that they discussed wanted to attend college in the future. He also gave her advice. She didn't have the best credit, so he gave her advice on her credit. He also gives her advice on dealing with her parents. She performed this massage and she was paid $200 for the massage. told us that as the massages OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085594 32 1 2 3 4 • I continued, they more sexual. further with By would Epstein then progress would try massage, and to go further become and the third had 5 completely removed all of her clothing. She was 6 completely nude at Mr. Epstein's respect. Epstein 7 would fondle breasts. 8 He rubbed hei He did not 9 penetrate did not digitally penetrate her, but 10 did stroke and rub on the outside. She 11 would tell him no on occasions and she would also 12 take his hand and remove his hand from places that 13 she did not want him to touch. 14 Mr. Epstein did use a massager directly 15 on while he continued to 16 masturbate during these massages. On at least two 17 occasions, Mr. Epstein -- at Mr. Epstein's 18 direction, assisted in giving the 19 massage. 20 And on -- the first time tells 21 us that was setting up the room and she 22 remained in the room and started to undress. 23 was surprised. 24 She was never asked or told this was 25 going to happen. This is just kind of the way it OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085595 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 went. and both massage Mr. Epstein. and Epstein began performing sexual acts in front of Epstein used a massager on 's in front of as well as they both performed oral sex in front of on each other. also touched breasts. She touched her -- touched I She took I hand and placed it on and pulled it back, pulled It away. did use the massager directly on Some of the gifts that received, she did receive also a bathing suit, which we have from Mr. Epstein's Brazilian trip. She received four tickets for her 18th birthday. Mr. Epstein gave her David Copperfield tickets, and on two occasions Mr. Epstein and , they wired money t In June of 2005, on senior trip, her senior graduation trip, they went to She ran out of money and they sent her -- wired her, Western Unioned her $350, and then she took a trip in July of '05 to San Diego, California, and she also received $200 by OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085596 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Western Union. Q All right. Anything you want to ask before we go to the Overt Acts? No. All right. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q If I could refer you first to Overt Act Number 23, which says on July 16th, 2004, Defendant caused Jane Doe Number Six to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Seven. Could you explain what the evidence is supporting that? A Yes. A review of phone records from phone and indicated they had telephonic contact at that time. Q And that was following a telephone contact between and Jane Doe Number Six? A Yes, it was. Q All right. And is that consistent with what Jane Doe Number Seven told you about how she was recruited to go to Mr. Epstein's house? A Yes. Q Now with respect to Overt Acts 27, 32, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085597 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 39, 41 , 44, 45, 66, 75, 85, 89, and 90, what the evidence related to those Overt Acts? A Can we skip 89? Q Oh, yes. Let's skip 89. A A review of the phone records indicate that there was telephonic contact between and on those specific dates as wP1 1 as the statements of that Sarah would call her in advance or call her while Mr. Epstein was in town. Q All right. And those records show that the phone calls originated with telephone? A Yes. Q Now if I could direct you to Overt Act Number 57, which says on December 4, 2004, Defendant provided a written message to Defendant Epstein regarding Jane Doe Number Six and Jane Doe Number Seven. Is that the phone message that you mentioned earlier today? A Yes, it is. Q Now we skipped Overt Act Number 89, and can you tell the grand jury what the evidence is related to Overt Act Number 89? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085598 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 arrange massage appointments During the massages, Epstein asked remove her clothing. Starting with was completely nude and A That would be a review of the phone records from phone records from telephonic contact Q From Ms. A Yes. Q And then as well as a review of the on that day. to that there was telephone? Overt Act Number 92, can you tell us what the evidence is related to that? A That is on that day a review of their phone records of phone records and indicates that there was telephonic contact between the two of them on that date. Q Now if I could refer you to Count Number 11 , and if you could summarize for the grand jury what the evidence is related to that count? A On or about these dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, between , and These phones were utilized to set up and for Mr. Epstein. the third massage, Epstein touched to OFFICIAL RPORTTNn SFRVTCF, LLC EFTA00085599 37 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 breasts. He stroked her vagina. He used a back massager on He masturbated during the massages. On at least two occasions Epstein involved into the sexual activity. stroked and used the massager on also placed hand on her which pulled back. Epstein paid $200 on each these occasions. Epstein also provided her with a bathing suit, four tickets to see David Copperfield on her 18th birthday, provided those tickets for her 18th birthday. Epstein and Western Unioned on at least two occasions and Epstein provided with advice dealing with her bad credit, with her parents, and her plans for going to college, and was 17 when all this activity took place. Q Okay. So the dates that appear in Count 11 run through the day before correct? her 18th birthday, A Yes, they do. Q Now with respect to Count Number 55, is OFFICIAL RFPORTINC RFRVICP, LLC EFTA00085600 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that the same evidence that relates to the sex trafficking charge? A Yes. Q Okay. And the date ranges between up until she turns 18? A Yes, it is. Q All right. BY : Any questions about Jane Doe Number Seven? All right. We'll go on to Jane Doe Number Eight. Q And if you could tell the grand jury Jane Doe's first name and her date of birth? A Jane Doe Number Eight is was born She attended High School and she had been to Mr. Epstein's house approximately 15 times. Q And who first introduced tc Epstein? A Jane Doe Number Six. Q And tell us how A told $200 if she provided that contact began. that she could make Mr. Epstein with a massage. She She told her that she would have to take off her clothes, but that she could keep her underwear on. 0FFICIAI DPDCIDTTMC col:burr^ n, LLC EFTA00085601 39 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on the first massage, we have -- I guess I should tell you, we have phone contact between and starting February 25, 2005, and that phone contact continues through October of 2005. We have over 50 calls between and calls between first massage, and we have approximately 25 and On that brought and set up the massage table. left the room. Shortly after that, Mr. Epstein entered wearing only a towel. massaged Mr. Epstein's leg and back. Mr. Epstein masturdated during this massage. I should tell you that told us that -- told law enforcement, that he has the girls take off their clothes, and in this massage she did remove her clothing down to her underwear. She kept her underwear on. He would touch her breasts and he would also grab her buttock while he was masturbating. The massages became more sexual. Mr. Epstein used a massager on over her panties, old us that on one or two occasions she was completely nude and he did use the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085602 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massager directly on On one of the times that she was completely nude, Mr. Epstein had cracked back before and she -- Epstein told lay down and that he was going to crack er •ack like he had done before. When she laid down, Mr. Epstein performed sexual intercourse on stated of She that he did pull out and ejaculated outside He gave her an extra 100, $150. had made $200 up to this point, so it would be 300, $350 that Mr. Epstein paid her. On another occasion, was brought into the massage. nd Mr. Epstein engaged in sexual acts while ould continue to massage Mr. Epstein. Epstein did ask and to kiss and he watched as they touched each other. I guess, touched -- I should say touched breasts and continued to touch Mr. Epstein as well as this all went on. As provided to as well as a digital camera. far as the gifts that Mr. Epstein he gave her a photography book told us that actually gave her the camera, but it was per OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085603 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein's instructions. She was 17 at the time all this activity Q Epstein's A She told And what did knowledge of She told Mr. occurred. say about Mr. her age? Epstein how old she was. him that she was 17. Q Now was interviewed shortly after the activity ended, correct? A Yes. Q Do you remember the approximate date when Mr. Epstein left Palm Beach County and has returned only for court appearances? A I believe it was October 6th. It was the beginning of October was the last time we have him -- or when he left the area. Q And shortly A Q explain was interviewed by the police after that time? Yes, she was interviewed on November 8. And during that interview, did she when the last time was when she had seen Mr. Epstein? A She had said shortly before her birthday. Q And she said it was actually the first week in October? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085604 42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Now was before A later called to appear the State Grand Jury? Yes. Q And during that testimony, did she did she confuse the last day that she saw Mr. Epstein? A Yes. She stated -- and this was done believe in July of '06, so this would have been over a year and some months. She did state that the last time she saw Mr. Epstein was the day before her birthday and that is when the sexual intercourse took place. Q Okay. So she thought it was the day before her birthday, but based on her earlier statement and the records that we have, we know it was a few days before her birthday? A Q Okay. Let's -- actually, before we go to the Overt Acts, do you mind if I ask the agent a question outside? I think I caught another error. Excuse us for a moment. and the witness exit the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085605 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Grand Jury Room.) ( and the witness enter the Grand Jury Room.) MS. VILLAFANA: There is a discrepancy in Overt Act Number 138. The chart that I provided to you says -- has the name as the relevant defendant and in the indictment it says So we are trying to confirm who the right caller was. A GRAND JUROR: Can I ask a question? Sure. A GRAND JUROR: You had said that he had not been in Florida? Uh-huh. A GRAND JUROR: How do they know that he has not come into Florida? Okay. We can address that without the agent. A GRAND JUROR: Could I ask a question? Sure. A GRAND JUROR: Is there any way that he might have been filming this? Does anybody know about it, I mean, you know? Dkay. We will answer those after we finish going through these OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085606 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY items. A GRAND JUROR: I knew there was a reason you were hauling all those records back and forth. A GRAND JUROR: After the case is over, how long do you actually have to keep all that? This is all on the record. A GRAND JUROR: Yeah. It's curiosity. Okay. All right. Q So from your review of the phone records, Special Agent Overt Act Number 138 relates to A Yes. Okay. All right. Now let's run through Overt Acts 110, 128, 133, 136, 138, 139, 141 , 142, 145, 152, 154, and 156. Could you let the grand jury know what_ the evidence is supporting those Overt Acts? A A review of the phone records indicate on those dates there was telephonic contact between the and as well as statements that called her OFFICIAL CE, LLC EFTA00085607 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and in advance as to when Mr. Epstein was in town to set up appointments. Q And if you could look at Overt Acts 124, 146, and 149. A A review of phone records between and indicates there was telephonic phone contact on those dates. Q Phone calls originating with ending with A Yes. Q And Overt Act Number 147? A Overt Act 147, a review of the phone records indicate that there was telephonic contact between and on that date as well. Q And then Overt Act Number 150, says that on September 8, 2005, Defendant received a telephone call from Jane Doe Number Eight, and what is the evidence related to that? A The evidence on that date is that a review of those phone records indicates that contacted Q So with respect to that one, the phone call originated with with as opposed to being OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085608 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. Now if you could turn to Count Number 12 and summarize for the grand jury the evidence supporting that charge of the enticement of a minor? A On or about these dates, a facility of interstate commerce was used, specifically the telephone, specifically , and phones were u tilized to set and arrange massages, massage appointments for Mr. Epstein. During the massages, Epstein would ask to remove her clothing. She would perform the massages either in her underwear or completely nude. Epstein masturbated while these massages. Epstein used a massager on vagina with her panties on and with them off. Epstein had intercourse with He ejaculated outside On one occasion, Epstein brought into the sexual activity, introduced into the sexual activity. They performed sex acts on each other, that being and Jeffrey Epstein, in front of OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 performed EFTA00085609 47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and she continued to massage Mr. Epstein. At Mr. Epstein's request, and did kiss as well as touched LedbLS. Epstein paid 200 to 300 to $350 to nd that depended on the sexual activity. Epstein gav photography as well as a digital camera provided to her by and of age. as well as bra and underwear sets, told Mr. Epstein that she was 17 years Q All right. And is that the same evidence with respect to Count Number 56? A Yes, it is. Before we go to those other two questions that were posed, are there any questions that relates to Jane Doe Number Eight? Yes, sir. A GRAND JUROR: Is there any explanation from any of the girls about the number of calls versus the number of times they say they went there? more time. I'm sorry. Say it one OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085610 48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY A GRAND JUROR: The number of times they went to visit versus the number of phone calls. There seems to be a big difference. THE WITNESS: Yes. There's a lot of phone calls and we have phone calls showing up prior to his arrival and during his arrival and some of the phone calls are lengthy and some of them are, you know, seconds. So either maybe they didn't get through. We are looking at a cell phone bill and getting those totals from looking at the cell phone bill and the calls just vary in time length and, you know, the only explanation I guess, you know, would be -- and that's just me giving you my opinion -- is that, you know, either they didn't reach each other, so they would continue to call back and forth. There was a lot of calls between these teenage girls or these adolescent girls as well as the phone activity between and and with the girls. Q All right. And also Special Agent , I know that you testified about this OFFICIAL prpnopTmr CrOVIrE, LLC EFTA00085611 49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 earlier in terms of the tendency of victims of this type of offense to minimize the number of visits, for example, minimize the conduct that they engaged in? A That is true as well. Q So it is possible that the girls went more than five times or ten times? A Yes. I mean, it's difficult to try to get them to tell you an exact number and that's why we have approximated, and, again, they have minimized either with local law enforcement and now when we go back either through time or just being able to -- you know, the approach, they have been able to tell us a little more of what took place. Again, stated she went hundreds of times. Can we put her down to a number? Two hundred and twenty-five phone calls. You know, we just know that she went a lot of times. You can look at the phone activity of seeing the phone calls that are made prior to his arrival and during his arrival to try to gage when they were there. All right. Any other questions related to Jane Doe Number Eight? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085612 50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY Okay. Q Then we have two questions that were raised earlier. One of which was whether there is any evidence to suggest that Mr. Epstein filmed any of these encounters? A We don't have any evidence at this time. Some of girls were asked that question but there's no evidence to show that he did or indicate that he did. Q All right. And then the second one was we had talked earlier about Mr. Epstein leaving Florida and not returning. What evidence do you have regarding where Mr. Epstein has been since October of 2005? A He has -- and I may have misspoke if I said he has not ever come back. He has come back because of the state charges he has faced. He has had to come into Palm Beach County for that. We do not believe that he has been here other than that since the investigation broke in October of '05, other than having to appear before the state charges. We know where Mr. Epstein resides and we have a partner, ICE, Immigration and Customs OFFICIAL PFronPTTNn CFRIFTCF , LLC EFTA00085613 51 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Enforcement, who can -- is helping us monitor his plane activity, and, although, we were not privy to all of his domestic flights when he comes in and out of the country, we are alerted to that. Q And you mentioned earlier that you interviewed A Yes. , correct? Q Who currently serves in what position of Mr. Epstein? A He is currently the house manager for Mr. Epstein and maintains the property over in Palm Beach. Q And what did he tell you about Mr. Epstein? A He also said that Mr. Epstein has not been back. Q Okay. : Any other questions? All right. You guys get a break next. All right. We will see you -- I will be out of town next week and I will probably see you the week after that. (Witness was excused.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085614 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGEN taken before certitiea our Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085615 W 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, vs. Plaintiff, IN, Defendants. SPECIAL AGENT APPEARANCES: TESTIMONY COPY Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, March 18, 2008 bib Ldill VIIlleU OL. tes Attorney Foreperson / OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085616 V 1 imony of SPECIAL AGENT 2 as taken before the 3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 18, 6 2008. 7 Certified Court 8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 11 33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn 12 testimony. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085617 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? THE WITNESS: I do. THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be seated. EXAMINATION Q Good afternoon, Special Agent Would you just remind the grand jury of your name and for whom you work? A I am in West Palm Beach. My official name is and I work for the FBI here Q All right. And you are still one of the case agents on Operation Leap Year? A Yes, I am. Q Have additional subpoenas been issued on behalf of this grand jury regarding Leap Year? A Yes, they have. Q And have documents been received in response to those subpoenas? A Yes, they have. OFFICIA. RPIDC1RTTNC; SFRVT E, LLC EFTA00085618 • 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q What subpoenas were issued and what items were received? A The items that are received are in this box for your review at a later time, but starting with the first subpoena that we had received documents back for would be from American Express. The subpoena was issued and we received credit card account information. Q Okay. A Do you want me just to -- Q You can just go through them. A A subpoena was issued to J. Epstein Virgin Island Foundation, Inc., J. Epstein and Company, Epstein Interests, Financial Trust Company, Inc., and we received documents on all three of those except for -- all four of those except for Jeffrey Epstein and Company -- J. Epstein and Company, which we received a letter of no response. The next subpoena was issued to the Palm Beach County School Board and we received transcript request forms. The next grand jury subpoena was issued to , Airport Executive, Town Car Services. We received a verbal that there were no records from Mr. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085619 • 5 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We issued a grand jury subpoena to the custodian of records for Majestic Theater, which we received ticketing records for. We issued a grand jury subpoena or you issued a grand jury subpoena for the custodian of records at the Broward Center for the Performing Arts and we received ticketing records. We issued a subpoena for the custodian of records for the Kravis Center for the Performing Arts and received a letter of no records response. We issued a subpoena for the custodian of records for Live Nation Theatrical Broadway Across America. Again, received a response letter of no records. We issued another subpoena for the custodian of records from Live Nation Theatrical Broadway Across America and that we did receive some ticketing records. We issued a subpoena to Bear Sterns and Company, Inc., and we received personnel files and account information. We issued a grand jury subpoena for Wolf Camera and we received transaction records. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085620 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We have issued a grand jury subpoena to Amazon.com and received order records. We issued a grand jury subpoena to Federal Express and received shipping records, and all that is contained in this box. Q All right. BY And at the end of our preservation, you will be welcome to look through any of those records and we also will bring them to the next session. A GRAND JUROR: I have a question. Yes. A GRAND JUROR: We subpoenaed information from theaters. I heard you say ticketing information or records from a few of them. Did we subpoena that information to establish location of the defendant or I guess he's not a defendant yet? THE WITNESS: Just as corroborating evidence of testimony provided by the girls. Their statements provided to us. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. A: Q Okay. Special Agent each OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085621 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 member of the grand jury has before them a copy of a chart. Do you also have a copy of this chart entitled Revised Indictment Summary Chart (by victim)? A Yes. Q And then you also provided to everyone a list of Jane Does with photographs? A Yes, I did. Q Okay. Can you just explain to the grand jury how -- which Jane Does we are going to be talking about today? A We are going to talk about Jane Does One through Six and Nine and Ten, and what you have here is a Jane Doe list of One through 19. We will be going through the first Six and Nine and Ten. As you can see, if you look at these two columns you'll see in the indictment we have before you is going to have the new Jane Doe numbers and the column to the right of that shows you what their Jane Doe number used to be. So Jane Does Nine and Ten, when we spoke about those two before, and we will go through that a little bit later, we referred to those as Jane Does Six and Seven. From here on out, we OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085622 8 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 will refer to them as Jane Does Nine and Ten: A GRAND JUROR: I have a question about Jane Doe Number One, and pointed this out. The date of birth is The range of activity dates is 1988 to 2003? THE WITNESS: That's a typo. That should be Thank you for catching that. A GRAND JUROR: I was about ready to have a problem here. I was having a real problem. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. A GRAND JUROR: I was about to take the law into my own hands. THE WITNESS: Let there be noted on the summary chart, there is a typo correction for Jane Doe Number One. The range of activity for her is 1998 to 2003. This chart is a chart that we put together because I have testified in the past as well as you may have heard other testimony regarding some of the Jane Does, and we are going to be talking about them today and in a later session. OFFICIAL PWIDIIPTTMC CPPIITCE, LLC EFTA00085623 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We want we provided this to you sort of as an aid so that you can go back and access the grand jury transcripts and go to the date that the testimony was provided. If you look at the last column where it says, Grand Jury Transcript Pages, on this form it will tell you the date of the grand jury, who provided that testimony, and the page number where you can find testimony related to those specific Overt Acts and substantive counts. So the two columns next to that -- let's just take Jane Doe Number Two and run through that real quick. Jane Doe Number Two, we have not testified about before. So that is her number and will always remain her number. Her date of birth is The range of activity and that reflects the range of activity that we have her connected to Mr. Epstein and his assistants. The next two columns are the Overt Acts and the associated substantive counts. The Overt Acts support those substantive counts and again the last column you would at that point go to my testimony on May 8th, 2007, OFFICIAL ERVICE, LLC EFTA00085624 • 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and look on the transcript on Pages Six and Seven, and that would be my testimony for the Overt Acts, the supporting evidence and testimony for Overt Acts One through 18. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q But, Special Agent just so that it is clear, when you testified back in May, you weren't testifying specifically about Jane Doe Number Two, but her name came up in -- with respect to one of the other Jane Does? A Exactly. Q Okay. So any information related to those Jane Does would be in the transcript pages? A Yes. Does that make sense to everyone how we have organized that? BY 1 Q Now Special Agent , if you could look at the proposed indictment, and I'm looking at the Background section of the indictment specifically Paragraphs One through Nine, which deal with Mr. Epstein's background and who he employed. Have you testified about that material OFFICIAL RFPOR- ING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085625 • • 1 1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 in the past? A Yes, I have. Q And let me just direct you to Overt Two, which is at the top of Page Two. There is a reference to L.G., and I don't believe we have talked about L.G. before. Can you tell the grand jury who that is? is nd she is a personal assistant or an assistant for Mr. Epstein in his New York office. Q All right. And just for the court reporter, is is that correct? A Yes, it is. Q Then Paragraph Three talks about three individuals, , and Can you tell the grand jury who those persons are? is Q And if you look at the summary chart on the second page, there are columns for and Do you see those at the bottom of Page Two? A Yes, I see them. Q And those refer to and where you have testified about OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085626 • • 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 them before or where testified about them? A Yes. Q I know that you was who have testified about Mr. Epstein's residence here in Palm Beach, but if you could look at Paragraph Five of that introductory section, which is on Page Two. Are you -- can you provide the grand jury with the location of Mr. Epstein's New York residence? A Mr. Epstein currently has a property located at 9 East 71st Street, New York, New York. Q If I could direct you to Page Five of the proposed indictment in Paragraphs 18 through 25 of the introductory section. Can you tell the grand jury about where the various victims in this case attended high school? A I can. Starting with Paragraph 18. Would you like me to just run through them? Q Sure. A Jane Doe Number Four attended) High School and High School. Jane Doe Number Five attended igh School. Jane Doe Numbers Six, Eight, and 12, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085627 • 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 attended High School. I should state that all of these high schools are located in Jane Doe Number Seven attended High School in Jane Doe Numbers Nine, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 attended High School in Jane Doe Number Ten attended High School in Jane Doe Number 1 1 attended the school located in area; Jane Doe Number 13 attended High School in and the Jane Does attended these high schools during some point of the contact with Mr. Epstein. Q Now Special Agent I know that not each and everyone of the Jane Does is listed in this. Did some of the Jane Does leave school before they began their relationship with Mr. Epstein? A Yes, they did. Q Now everyone was handed a copy of a document entitled, Merged Flight Manifests. If I OFFICIAL REPORTIN( SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085628 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 could ask you to take a look at that, and in the proposed indictment if you could turn to Page 32. Special Agent I'm going to ask you about ()vent Acts 191 through 225. Can you tell the grand jury what the basis is for the allegations set forth in 191 through 225? A We received through the issuance of a grand jury subpoena the flight manifest from Mr. Epstein's pilot and that is our evidence to show the travel that Mr. Epstein did, which is displayed in Overt Acts 191 through 225. Q And the chart that is entitled Merged Flight Manifests, what does that include? A This chart will show the grand jury that in January 2004 through -- basically, Mr. Epstein's travel in '04 and '05 on his two personal aircrafts, which would be the Boeing 727 and the Gul£stream. If you look at this chart, the first column is the date of departure, the date that he left, and you'll see airport codes in the next column that tells you the airport that he left and what time he left would be the next time, the departure time. It will tell you what airport he was OFFICIAL PPORTTNC, SPRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085629 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 arriving in and what time he arrived at that airport, and the last would be the actual aircraft itself, which aircraft he was traveling on, and just to remind the grand jury, Hyperion is the Gulfstream and JEGE is the Boeing 727. Q And who created this chart, the Merged Flight Manifests Chart? A The FBI. Q And where did they gather this information from? A We subpoenaed or the grand jury issued a subpoena to the pilot and pilots of Mr. Epstein and through counsel the pilots gave us a copy of the flight manifest for those two years and I have here a set of the flight manifests that were provided to us by the grand jury subpoena and have marked each of the Overt Acts from 191 to 225 So that if any time the grand jury would like to come and look at the actual manifest the pilots gave us, you'll be able to see the data that this form was taken from. Q Okay. Thank you. Before I go on, does anyone have any questions about those Overt Acts and where this information came from? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085630 • 1 2 3 4 16 Yes, sir. A GRAND JUROR: Is there something that ties in these travel itineraries to the actual fact that there was a meeting or 6 something planned? I mean, where does that tie together? Traveling is not against the 7 law. 8 Right. The way that we 9 had the indictment organized before was an 10 attempt to do this in chronological order, 1 1 which seems to be more confusing rather than 12 less confusing. 13 So when you look at the -- when you hear 14 the testimony from Special Agent 15 and when you look at the Overt Acts related 16 to the victims and when he went to see them, 17 you'll see that the dates of travel relate to 18 the dates of his meeting with the victims. 19 Does that make sense? 20 A GRAND JUROR: Yes. 21 BY 22 Q Is there anything else, Special Agent 23 that I should add to that? 24 A No. It will become clear once we 25 testify about the travel count. OFFICIAL mrn^nT7"^ nrnflYnE, LLC EFTA00085631 • 17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY A GRAND JUROR: Can I just ask which airport is ISM? THE WITNESS: You know, I can in the next session, I would be happy to bring the airport codes. A GRAND JUROR: Okay. THE WITNESS: Obviously, we focused in on his times when he traveled into the Palm Beach County area and that would be PBIA or PBI, but I can certainly provide all the airport codes at our next session. Q All right. Now throughout the Overt Acts portion where there are discussions of various Jane Does, there will be mentioned a telephone call. So, for example, if you look at Page Ten, Paragraph 17, it says on or about April 23rd, 2004, Defendant placed a telephone call to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Two. Do you see that? A Yes. Q And Special Agent what is the evidence that we have related to the telephone calls that are mentioned in the Overt Acts? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085632 • • 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A We have issued administrative subpoenas to telecommunication companies for cell phone records for Mr. Epstein's assistants as well as many of the Jane Does. These specific Overt Acts are reflected in those telephone records and we have also prepared for the grand jury -- I brought with me today, and I will bring with me next time, all of the telephone records for -- that we have received via administrative subpoenas. Today I brought the ones pertaining to the Overt Acts and what we have done is we have taken those cell phone records and we have marked for the grand jury all the Overt Acts that are listed in the indictment. You'll note when you go to that page, there will be a little mark by the telephone call that we are specifically talking about in the Overt Acts. Q And can you just remind the grand jury what information will be on those records? A It will be telephonic contact between or , telephonic contact between his assistants and the Jane Does. OFFICIAL 7PORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085633 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q was called the call? It will show the telephone number that and the dates and time and length of A Yes, it will. Q All right. Any questions before we start talking about the sexual activity between the defendant and the victims? Okay. No questions. BY Q Let's talk first about Jane Does One and Two. They are grouped together in Overt Acts One through 18. Who is Jane Doe Number One? A Jane Doe Number One is a white female. Her name is She was born in and she lived in the Palm Beach County area during the time that she had contact with Mr. Epstein. Q Has she been interviewed? A Statements have been provided to the FBI by Jane Doe Number One. Q In addition to her statements, who else has provided information regarding Jane Doe Number One? A Jane Doe Number Two and Jane Doe Number OFFICIAL RPPC)RmTMC qFPVTCE, LLC EFTA00085634 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 One's boyfriend at the time she had contact with Mr. Epstein, which is Q Who is referred to as in the indictment? A Yes. Q During what period of time, did Jane Doe Number One have contact with Mr. Epstein? A Jane Doe Number One met Mr. Epstein when she was 15. So that would be in the last half of 1998 until 2003 that we are aware of. Q How did she meet Jeffrey Epstein? A She met Mr. Epstein at age 15 and according to her boyfriend when she was 20, Mr. Epstein sent her to Thailand for massage therapy school. So she -- the time frame that she was with Mr. Epstein was from the age of 15 until we are aware of is age 20. never saw Jane Doe Number One again after she went to Thailand. She would contact him by telephone, but she never returned back. She never came back that he is aware of. So the time frame tiCat we had Jane Doe Number One with Mr. Epstein is from age 15 to 20. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085635 21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I'm sorry, the question you asked me was: How did they meet? They met by a friend of Mr. Epstein's. Jane Doe Number One was working at and a friend of Mr. Epstein's, Ghislaine Maxwell. Would you like the spelling? THE REPORTER: Yes, please. THE WITNESS: G-H-I-S-L-A-I-N-E, Maxwell, who was a friend of Mr. Epstein, met Jane Doe Number One at Mar-a-Lago and Jane Doe Number One soon after began working and providing massages for Mr. Epstein. BY 0 What sexual activity was Jane Doe Number One involved in with Jeffrey Epstein? A Through the statements provided by Jane Doe Number Two, when Jane Doe Number Two was 14 years of age, she saw Jane Doe Number One naked and engaged in what she believed to be sexual intercourse with Mr. Epstein. Q Now did Jane Doe Number One recruit any one else to go to Jeffrey Epstein's home? A At this time, the only Jane Doe that we are aware of is Jane Doe Number Two or the only individual we are aware of is Jane Doe Number Two. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085636 22 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. So let's talk about Jane Doe Number Two. Who is she? named A Jane Doe Number Two is She was born in a white female She lived in Palm Beach County, Florida, at the time she had contact with Mr. Epstein. Q And how has she been interviewed? A Yes. Q During -- how old was she during the time frame that Jane Doe Number Two was involved with Mr. Epstein? A She was 14 at the time that she first met Mr. Epstein. Q And she was involved with him until she was 17? A We have in or about the beginning of 2001 , which would make her 14 up until 2004. Q And how did she come to meet Mr. Epstein? A Jane Doe Number One brought Jane Doe Number Two to Mr. Epstein's residence for the first time. Mr. Epstein was introduced to Jane Doe Number Two by Jane Doe Number One. There was a massage that took place with the two of them and then Jane Doe Number One OFFICIAL RFPORml - Nr SFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085637 • 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 engaged in sexual activity that I mentioned earlier where Jane Doe Number Two informed us that she sat on the couch and observed what she believed the two of them to engage in sexual intercourse. Q And at the time, Jane Doe Number One was 17 and Jane Doe Number Two was 14? A Yes. • All right. A And I'm not sure if that was actually the first or second visit that she went. So it was either the first visit or the second that the sexual activity that I described took place. They may have gone there the first time and just performed a massage for Mr. Epstein, but on the second occasion the sexual activity that I described took place. Jane Doe Number Two stated that, you know, the three years that we discussed from 2001 to 2004, she provided Mr. Epstein with over, in that three-year period, over 100 massages and all but three of the massages were sexually in nature. Q How much was she paid for performing sexual massages for Epstein? A She was paid between 200 and $400. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE LLC EFTA00085638 EFTA00085639 2 •E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A would schedule Jane Doe Number Two and sometimes would be out of town and be in New York and scheduled her to come and work, but guess she was Number Q primary role was to schedule or the one that would schedule Jane Doe Two to come and perform the massages. Did ever actually lead Jane Doe Number Two upstairs up to the bedroom? A Yes. After Jane Doe Number One took Jane Doe Number Two, Jane Doe Number Two started going by herself. The first time that Jane Doe Number Two arrived at Mr. Epstein's by herself, took Jane Doe Number Two from the kitchen and took her upstairs for the massage that was to be performed for Mr. Epstein. Q Now you mentioned the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number two observed between Jane Doe Number One and Mr. Epstein. Was there ever any other females involved in the sexual activity? A Yes. Mr. Epstein introduced an unidentified female who performed oral sex on Jane Doe Number One -- I'm sorry, on Jane Doe Number Two while Mr. Epstein had sexual intercourse with the unidentified female. Q Now you mentioned that at some point, OFFICIAL REPORTING ERVICE, LLC EFTA00085640 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein asked Jane Doe Number Two to start bringing girls; is that correct? A Yes. Q And did he describe what exactly he wants, the type of person that he wanted her to bring? Did she report that he asked her if she had any younger friends that would be interested in performing massages? A Yes. He asked her -- can I just have a moment? Q Of course, yes. A I'm sorry. Jane Doe Number Two, Mr. Epstein asked her if she had any friends that would be interested in performing these massages and then he also inquired if she had any younger friends that would -- that she could bring to him and then he offered to pay her $100 for each person that she brought. Q In addition to the sexual activity with Mr. Epstein, did ever involve Jane Doe Number Two in any specific activity? A Yes. contacted Jane Doe Number Two by telephone and asked her to come to Mr. Epstein's residence that Mr. Epstein wanted to take pictures of Jane Doe Number Two. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085641 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 paid Jane Doe Number Two $500 to take naked photographs of Jane Doe Number Two at Mr. Epstein's residence in and around the house and pool area at the request of Mr. Epstein. Q And approximately how old or how old does Jane Doe Number Two believe she was at the time? A Jane Doe Number Two informed us that she was 16 years old when took the photographs of her naked. Q What did Jane Doe Number Two say about whether Jeffrey Epstein knew her true age? A Jane Doe Number Two was informed by Jane Doe Number One to say if asked her age that she was -- she should respond that she was 17. When they went -- and went to Mr. Epstein's residence and were upstairs performing massages, Mr. Epstein asked Jane Doe Number Two her age. She responded four --. And then he said, so you're 14? And Mr. Epstein informed Jane Doe Number Two that they would just keep that between them. Q So in other words, he knew that she was 14 when she started seeing him? A Yes. She did not remember to say 17 and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085642 28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 just naturally came out four --. And then he finished that statement for her, so you're 14? And then stated that they would keep that between them. Q Now is the -- can you summarize -- does your testimony cover the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts One through 18? A Yes, it does. Q And if I could ask you to refer to Count Two, which appears on Page 38. Is the evidence that you have just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and procured Jane Doe Number Two to engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18? A Yes. Q So is there anything else that you wanted to mention with respect to either Jane Doe Numbers One or Two? A The only other thing I didn't bring up was the gifts that Mr. Epstein provided to Jane Doe Number Two and Mr. Epstein would provide her with lingerie. He gave her tickets to a concert, a local concert. He would also send her via FedEx packages to her residence, and in one of those OFFICIAL PrprIPTIMr c rnuTrE, LLC EFTA00085643 29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 packages Jane Doe Number Two informed us that there was a Massage for Dummies book that she received by FedEx from Mr. Epstein. And the grand jury should know that we have received records from FedEx which corroborate Mr. Epstein's address and packages going to Jane Doe Number Two's residence. Q And those records relate to Mr. Epstein's personal Federal Express account? A Yes. A GRAND JUROR: Jane Doe Number Two, do we know how old she was when Mr. Epstein asked her to bring younger friends? Was she already in his eyes up there and he wanted them younger? THE WITNESS: When Jane Doe Number Two was 16, about midway through her 16th year, and at that point she did not provide Mr. Epstein with anymore massages. So I know she went away for a time period and when she came back, you know, she and did not want to do massages anymore. So at that point, she may have brought her friends as well as prior to that. OFFICIAL PPDAPTTNC crpvirE, LLC EFTA00085644 30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY Q Do you know exactly when she started bringing other girls? A I don't know that I want to say that it was before or after. We just know that she was asked by Mr. Epstein to bring other females and he would pay $100. The only other thing we haven't talked about is we have message pads that were recovered in the execution of the state search warrant on Mr. Epstein's residence, and I think the grand jury has seen copies of some of those message pads. We do have a message pad for Jane Doe Number Two that gives you an example of -- and I can pull that out and read that to the grand jury, if you would like? Q Sure. A This particular message pad is basically -- it's a carbon copy message that again was recovered during the execution of the state search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence and this shows that this was dated on March 11 , 2003. It's from with her phone number and it's marked that she telephoned and it's OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085645 31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 marked, please call, and it was signed by one of Mr. Epstein's employees. So again the date that the contact here is March 1 1 , 2003. Q And Jane Doe Number Two was still under the age of 18 at that time? A Yes, she was. Q Okay. Now if we could turn to Jane Doe Number Three and who is she? A Jane Doe Number Three is a white female named She was born and she lived in the Palm Beach County area. Q Has she been interviewed? A Yes. Q And during what period of time did Jane Doe Number Three have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A Beginning in or around 2003 to up 2005. Q And how old was she during that time frame? A She was 15 when she first met Mr. Epstein. Q And how did she meet him? A Jane Doe Number Two brought Jane Doe Number Three to Mr. Epstein's house. They traveled by taxi there. Jane Doe Number Two took OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085646 32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jane Doe Number Three upstairs to meet Mr. Epstein. They provided Mr. Epstein a massage in their underwear. Mr. Epstein asked Jane Doe Number Two to leave and Jane Doe Number Three finished the massage. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number Three on that first occasion, and Jane Doe Number Three, after the massage, she was paid $200 and she left the residence. Q All right. A On other occasions after that, would be the one to contact Jane Doe Number Three to come to the residence to provide massages for Mr. Epstein. Q And you have phone records showing calls from Three's A phone? Yes, I do. phone to Jane Doe Number Q In addition to that, the masturbation during that massage, was there other sexual activity that occurred between the two of them? A Yes, there was. Mr. Epstein requested that Jane Doe Number Three rub his chest and nipples while he masturbated. He also used a OFFICIAJ REPORTTNn SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085647 33 1 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Three's He touched Jane Doe Number Three's He also instructed Jane Doe Number Three to straddle an unidentified female and fondle the unidentified female as he used she believed it was a vibrator or a massaging device on the unidentified female's Q And on each of those occasions was she paid? A Yes, she was. Q And did she tell you about the range of of money that she would receive for each visit? A She received $200 for the time period when she would provide Mr. Epstein during the massages. Q Did Jane Doe Number Three recruit anyone to go Mr. Epstein's house? A Yes. Q And did she tell you anything about what Epstein's requests were in terms of who she should bring? A Yes. Mr. Epstein asked her to bring other females. Jane Doe Number Three stated that Mr. Epstein's preferences were short little white OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085648 34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 girls. Jane Doe Number Three brought girls ages 15 to 25 years of age. Q Were there girls whom Jane Doe Number Three brought to Mr. Epstein's home whom he did not like? A Yes. Mr. Epstein informed Jane Doe Number Three that he didn't want girls with tattoos, older girls, or black girls. He also expressed frustration with Jane Doe Number Three when she didn't have new females for him. Q And how would he express that frustration? A He hung up on her. He telephoned her. He also would telephone her. and Mr. Epstein would call Jane Doe Number Three and on this particular occasion when she didn't have a female for him, he hung up. Q Now if we could go back to the girls whom Mr. Epstein didn't like. You said older girls, girls with tattoos, and black girls. When Jane Doe Number Three brought those girls to his home, did he allow them to massage him? A No. Q So those girls were just sent away? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085649 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A They were, but they were paid for coming. Q Now if I could just refer you to Overt Acts 29 and 31 , which are on Page 12. There is a reference to two written telephone messages and could you just remind the grand jury of where that information comes from? A I actually have copies. Overt Acts 29 and 31 are message pads or carbon copy messages that were found at Mr. Epstein's residence when the Town of Palm Beach Police Department executed a state search warrant on his residence. The first one, Overt Act 29, is a message dated November 8, 2004. It was taken at 1 :15 p.m. The message is for Mr. Epstein from Cortney with her cell phone number and in quotations it says, I have a female for him. At the bottom is an employee of Mr. Epstein, the house manager, Overt Act 31 is a message for Mr. Epstein dated January 29, 2005. It looks like the time was 4:10 p.m. It is from with her phone number on it and in quotations, I have a female for him. Again, initialed by Mr. Epstein's house manager, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085650 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Now does your testimony today summarize the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 19 through 31? A Yes. Q And if I could just refer you to Count 12, which appears on Pages 40 and 41 of the proposed indictment. Is this the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegations that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Three to engage in prostitution and in sexual activity for which a person can be charged with a criminal offense? A Yes. Q Was Jane Doe Number Three under the age of 16 during part of her interactions with Mr. Epstein? A Yes, she was. Q And under Florida law, could Mr. Epstein have been charged with lewd and lascivious molestation, lewd and lascivious conduct, and lewd and lascivious exhibition based upon his touching of Jane Doe Number Three's breasts, genitals, his solicitation of Jane Doe Number Three in a lewd and lascivious act and his masturbation and OFFICIAL PranPTTmn grpurry , LLC EFTA00085651 4 37 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 exposure of his genitals to her? A Yes. Q All right. Let's turn to Jane Does Four, Five, and Six, please, and could you tell the grand jury who Four, Five and Six are? A Jane Doe Four, Number Four is a white female named She was born in She attended both High School High School in Palm Beach County. Jane Doe Number Five is a white female named . She was born in She attended High School in Palm Beach County, Florida. Jane Doe Number Six is a white female named She was born in and she' attended High School in Palm Beach County, Florida. Q Have the three Jane Does Four, Five, and Six been interviewed? A Yes. Q And during what period of time did they have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A In or around the first half of 2004 possibly going into the summer months is when we OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085652 4 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Four's underwear was pulled aside by Mr. Epstein and he stroked her - Q And she was paid following that massage as well? A Yes, she was. Q Who led Jane Does Four and Five up to the bedroom during that first massage? A Jane Does Four and Five went upstairs. They were taken upstairs by And what evidence is there regarding Jeffrey Epstein's knowledge of Jane Doe Number Four's true age? A Jane Doe Number Four told Mr. Epstein how old she was. Q In respond to his question about her age? A Yes. I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein asked her age and she informed Mr. Epstein of her true age at the time. Q Now during -- you mentioned that the first massage that the two of them were together, Jane Does Four and Five, and did Mr. Epstein masturbate in front of them at that time? A Yes, he did, and I should say that Mr. Epstein requested them to remove their clothing OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085653 4 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 during that massage as well. Q Okay. And did he ever instruct Jane Doe Number Four to play with his nipples? A Yes. Q You said that Jane Doe Number Four returned after that first massage, correct? A Yes. Q How was she contacted to set up those later massages? A Jane Doe Number Four was contacted by Q Via telephone? A Via telephone, yes. Q Did Jane Doe Number Four bring anyone else to Jeffrey Epstein's home? A Jane Doe Number Four brought Jane Doe Number Six. Jane Doe Number Four and Jane Doe Number Six performed the massage together and then Jane Doe Number Four was asked to leave. At that point, the sexual activity that was performed on Jane Doe Number Six by Mr. Epstein was the digital penetration of Jane Doe Number Six' as well as the use of a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Six's vagina. He did masturbate. OFFICIAL. RPPORTTNG SFIRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085654 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 He did pay Jane Doe Number Six $200 for that massage, and Jane Doe Number Six did not return again after that massage. Q Did Mr. Epstein ask anything related to Jane Doe in terms of her age or something that would indicate her age? A He asked them where they went to high school. Q And did she respond? A Yes, she told him she went t Q Does your testimony cover the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 32 through 45? A Yes. Q And if I could refer you to Count Three, which is on Page 39, is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that 19 Jeffrey Epstein and procured Jane Doe 20 Number Four to engage in commercial sex acts 21 knowing that she was under 18? 22 A Yes. 23 Q So in other words, Jeffrey Epstein knew 24 her age before he asked her that the second time? 25 I A Yes. OFFICIAL APPOPTTNC SFRVTrE, LLC EFTA00085655 42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And referring to Count 13, which is on Page 41 and 42, is this evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegations that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Four to engage in prostitution? A Yes. We have the testimony of Jane Doe Numbers Four, Five, and Six as well as others and we also have telephonic contact between Jane Doe Number Five by just shortly before her 18th birthday. Q All right. If I could refer you to Jane Does Number Nine and Ten at this point. The Overt Acts related to them start on Page 17. Let's start with Jane Doe Number Nine. Can you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number Nine is? A Jane Doe Number Nine is a white female named She was born in and she attended High School. Q And have you testified about her previously? A Yes. Q Is there anything that you want to OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085656 43 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 either clarify or add regarding your earlier testimony? A There is one thing that I'd like to add that I didn't testify to earlier about an incident that occurred in November, specifically, November 28, 2004. Jane Doe Number Nine was 17 years of age and we have a police document in the Town of Palm Beach that shows that Jane Doe Number One mean, Jane Doe Number Nine was provided with an envelope filled with money that Mr. Epstein had arranged for one of his employees to give Jane Doe Number Nine. The reason the Palm Beach Police Department were called in is the employee didn't recognize Jane Doe Number Nine's car, which was parked in the driveway. So he contacted the police. Once the police came out though, Mr. Epstein's employee went and retrieved an envelope and it had money in it. The employee told the police that Jane Doe Number Nine was a massage therapist and continued with the officer stating off the record that Mr. Epstein had many young girls that come over for that. OFFICIAL Dr1^1,TTVfl eronT^E, LLC EFTA00085657 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And that related to Overt Act Number 80 on Page 18? A Yes, it does. Q Okay. And can you just remind the grand jury during what period of time Jane Doe Number Nine had contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number Nine had contract between July 2004 and September of 2005, during that time period. And how old was she during that time frame? A She was 17 up until her birthday, which is the end of December of 2004, but continued to have contact with Mr. Epstein after she was 18. Q And can you summarize the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number Nine was involved in with Mr. Epstein? A Yes. Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number Nine's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number Nine. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Nine's He Jane Doe Number Nine. He performed oral sex on Jane Doe Number Nine. Mr. Epstein his penis OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085658 • 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 into the of Jane Doe Number Nine. Jane Doe Number Nine watched per Mr. Epstein's request as Mr. Epstein engaged in oral sex and sexual intercourse with Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Nine to perform oral sex on When Jane Doe Number Nine didn't want to do that, Mr. Epstein offered her an additional $200 if Jane Doe Number Nine would perform oral sex on for five minutes, which Jane Doe Number Nine did. Q And how much was Jane Doe Number Nine paid? A Jane Doe Number Nine was paid -- on the first visit we have that she was paid $200. She was paid anywhere from $300 to $1 ,000. Q And what did that depend on? A The sexual activity. $300 to $600 was the sexual activity. The one time we have noted that she was given $1 ,000 was when he of her. Q And you mentioned that Jane Doe Number Nine was still seeing Mr. Epstein after she turned 18. What evidence do you have that corroborates her statements that these activities that we are OFFICIAL PFPC)RTTNG cFRVIrE, LLC EFTA00085659 46 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 talking about occurred before she was 18? A we have phone records. We have message pads. We have obtained documents that are from Majestic Theater and from Jet Blue that indicate that Mr. Epstein purchased a ticket for Jane Doe Number Nine for her 18th birthday. She actually flew to New York on her 18th birthday. Mr. Epstein thought it would be better for her to travel when she turned 18. So she traveled to New York and Mr. Epstein purchased tickets -- or paid for her to see the Phantom of the Opera, which was being performed at the Majestic Theater. Q Now when you say Mr. Epstein, who was actually making the calls? A I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein's assistant, Q Okay. Let's talk about Jane Doe Number Ten as well because they are related. Can you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number Ten is? Jane Doe Number Ten is a white female and she was born in She attended High School, and I talked about her prior. Q You have talked about her previously? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085660 47 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add related to that testimony? A No, nothing. Q And can you remind the grand jury during what period of time Jane Doe Number Ten was involved with Mr. Epstein? A She went to Mr. Epstein's residence in July of 2004 to November 2005. We have her still in contact with Mr. Epstein. Q And how old was she during that time frame? A She was 17. Up until she turned 18. Q And how is Jane Doe Number Ten related to Jane Doe Number Nine in connection with these events? A Jane Doe Number Nine brought Jane Doe Number Ten to Mr. Epstein's residence. Q Now if I could refer you to Overt Act Number 67, and it says on or about July 16, 2004, Defendant caused Jane Doe Number Nine to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Ten. Do you see that? OFFICIAL REPORTING SFRVIC , LLC EFTA00085661 48 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Can you tell us in addition to the testimony from Jane Doe Number Nine what the telephone records show? A An examination of Jane Doe Number Nine's cell phone records show that she contacted Jane Doe Number Ten, and if you examine records you will see that there was contact between Jane Doe Number Nine and Q On the same day? A On the same day. Q All right. What was the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number Ten was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein? A I'm sorry. One second. I just want to look at this. Okay. I'm sorry. What was your question? Q What was the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number Ten was involved in with Mr. Epstein? A Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number Ten's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number Ten. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Ten's and he also touched Jane Doe Number Ten's OFFICIAL RPPORTTNGI SFRVTCE, LLC EFTA00085662 • 49 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q How much did Jane Doe Number Ten receive? A Jane Doe Number Ten was paid $200. Q And she went to Mr. Epstein's home more than once? A Yes. Q Can you give the grand jury an idea of how many phone calls there were between and Jane Doe Number Nine A Yes. There were approximately 225 phone calls. Q And they are in the documents and records that you have? A Yes. Q And what about Jane Doe Number Ten? A There were over 100 phones calls between and Jane Doe Number Ten, and there were also phone calls between Jane Doe Number Ten and and those were approximately eight calls between Jane Doe Number Ten and with only one being prior to her 18th birthday. There were also approximately seven calls with with all but one after her 18th birthday. That one was actually on her OFFICIAL REPORTING SERV CE, LLC EFTA00085663 50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 18th birthday. Q And those calls that you are referring to relate only to the cellular telephone records that you have, correct? A Yes. Q So if there were calls from Jeffrey Epstein's phone numbers to or from that number that couldn't necessarily be captured? A No. Q Okay. Now if I could just ask you to look at Count Four. Does your testimony today and your prior testimony summarize the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and procured Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in commercial sex acts knowing she was under 18? A Yes. Q And in Count 15 is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q And also the offense charges using a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085664 51 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in sexual activity for which the person can be charged with a criminal offense. With respect to Jane Doe Number Nine, what is this offense that Mr. Epstein could have been charged with, with respect to that activity with her? A The sexual intercourse . Epstein penetrated Jane Doe Number Nine' with his penis. Q And then with respect to Jane Doe Number Ten, Count Five charges that Jeffrey Epstein and procured Jane Doe Number Ten to engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18. How do you summarize for us the evidence supporting that? A Yes. The only thing I'd like to add to that is we also do have message pads that were obtained through the Town of Palm Beach with the execution of the search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence as well as trash pulls that the Town of Palm Beach conducted in the spring of '05, 2005, and one of those trash pulls I believe -- is it Overt Act 81? Q Yes, 81 . OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085665 52 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A The trash pull -- found in the trash pull conducted by the Town of Palm Beach was Jeffrey Epstein's letterhead and on it handwritten that says 10:30, and then on Friday around 2:00, and then there's a underneath it. 2005. This was obtained on April 1 st, And then the message pad that I referred to -- I'm sorry, the trash pull was Overt Act 147. The Overt Act was 81 , and that message pad is that message is from Jeffrey Epstein dated December 4, 2004. The time is 2:55 p.m. The message is from and it's written, would like to work at 4:00 p.m. if possible, and then in parenthesis, is scheduled for 5:00 today. At the bottom it says, the movie is at 7:30. Q And you said that was written by Defendant and it's addressed to Jeffrey Epstein? A Yes. THE FOREPERSON: We need a break. Okay. Should we take ten minutes? THE FOREPERSON: Is this a good time? OFFICIAL nrne"7"7"Mn c'r°"TCE, LLC EFTA00085666 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 This is fine. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Thereupon, a short break was taken.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) We are back on the record. Is there a quorum? THE FOREPERSON: Yes. BY L: Q We were just finishing up with Jane Doe Number Ten. Special Agent you summarized a lot of evidence relating to Jane Doe Number Ten. Is the evidence that you summarized also the basis for the allegation in Count 16 that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Ten to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q Okay. I just want to review with you, Special Agent that you did, in fact, previously testify about background information regarding the defendants in this indictment? A Yes. Q And that was in one of your earlier OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085667 54 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 transcripts? A Yes. Q Okay. I also wanted to ask you about the victims who we have discussed today. We have discussed eight victims, Jane Does One through Six and Nine and Ten. Are you aware of whether any of those victims have used illicit drugs or have had mental health issues? A Yes. Q And can you summarize that for the grand jury? A Jane Doe Number -- we'll start with Jane Doe Number Two. After the contact or during the contact, but after she had met Mr. Epstein, Jane Doe Number Two between ages 15 and 17. I guess what I am trying to say is that she first had contact with Mr. Epstein when she was 14 years of age. So when I interviewed Jane Doe Number Two, she informed me that started between the ages 15 to 17. She had a OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085668 55 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Her mother had Doe Number Two told me that helped her Jane Q Meaning you can be A Yes. health issues? Q I did. And did you ask me about mental A And she had also been i Jane Doe Number Two revealed to us that when she was very young, and has suffered from that ever since. Q Any other Jane Does? A Yes. Jane Doe Number Three also has a OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085669 56 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 She dropped out of school at an early age. Jane Doe Number Three expressed that she just wanted to feel numb. She stayed with a lot of -- she did not stay at home a lot after age 15 due to the fact that Q Okay. A And then the last Jane Doe that we talked about would have been Jane Doe Number Nine, and we do have information that she has Q With respect to those Jane Does, did you go about getting independent corroboration for their statements so that you weren't relying exclusive on what they told you about Mr. Epstein? A Yes. We talked about that today. Specifically, with Jane Doe Number Two, we have her statement, but along with that statement we have telephone records. Those telephone records indicate telephonic contact with We have the OFFICIAL REPORT:NG SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085670 57 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 message pads recovered during the search warrant, recovered during the execution of the state search warrant that indicates the contact here. We have statements from other Jane Does and witnesses that corroborate. We also have received the FedEx records indicating packages were sent to Jane Doe Number Two from Mr. Epstein. When you look at Jane Doe Number Three, the same thing, we have telephone records that indicate telephonic contact. We have message pads recovered in the state search warrant, execution of the state search warrant. Then we have the statements of other Jane Does, and in regards to Jane Doe Number Nine, again, we have the telephone records which indicate telephonic contact with We have the message pads. In addition to that, we have the message pads that were recovered by the state search warrant and they also found her high school transcript. It was found at Mr. Epstein's residence. We have statements from other Jane Does, and then we also have the records for her from the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085671 58 1 Jet Blue, you know, showing the travel on her 2 birthday. Majestic Theater showing that she 3 attended the theater. 4 We have -- after her 18th birthday, she 5 was involved in a play where Mr. Epstein had his 6 assistant deliver flowers to the high school. She 7 was 18 at the time, but we do have records showing 8 the purchase of those flowers and a note with 9 instructions for the house manager on what to do 10 and how to pick up the flowers and deliver them, 11 as well as rental car records. 12 Q So we are not relying exclusively on 13 their statements? 14 A No. 15 Q Okay. Now I know that there has been 16 some coverage in the press of civil lawsuits that 17 were filed against Mr. Epstein. Are your aware of 18 the press coverage? 19 A Yes. 20 21 22 23 A Yes. 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085672 59 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY A No. A No. If I could ask you to step outside. I want to find out if the grand jurors have any questions for you. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) Q Special Agent question was about , the first Are there other victims of whom you are aware of or are not on the Jane Doe One through 19 list? A Yes. Q Okay. Now there was a question about Jane Doe Number One. You testified that she had left to go to Thailand and her boyfriend, her former boyfriend, hadn't had contact with her in a long while. Have other people had contact with her more recently? A Yes. OFFICIA" LLC EFTA00085673 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 • 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 60 Q Including people from the FBI? A Yes. Q So there is no -- she's not in any harm or danger? A No, and I didn't mean to imply. There is also a question of a $3,000 phone bill that Jane Doe Number One said that she would take care of when she got back. She never returned. Her stuff that was in their apartment, the dog, she never came back, and I think there was some concern on his part, but we know where Jane Doe Number One is. Q Just so the grand jury knows. Where is she living now? Q There also was a question about Jane Doe Number Two. You testified that Not that we are aware of. Those were all the questions. Any follow up on those three questions? Okay. One of the things I wanted to just OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085674 • 61 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 discuss with the grand jury is our next presentation and I had asked you to bring all of the items that were procured under the grand jury subpoena. Can you tell the grand jury about some particularly bulky items that you are hoping they will forgo? A We have from the execution of the state search warrant by the Town of Palm Beach, they have three massage tables or one chiropractic table and two massage tables that are rather large, that if you would like to see them, we can bring two of the ones that were located upstairs. So what I'd like to do is we are going to step outside to leave you with some time to review the transcripts of the earlier testimony. Before you leave, if you could decide • whether or not you want us to bring those large massage tables up from the Miami lock up for you to see or if Special Agent description is sufficient. A GRAND JUROR: Just bring a picture. A GRAND JUROR: How about a picture? A GRAND JUROR: Would that be OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00085675 62 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 sufficient? We can do that. We will step outside and if that is what you decide, that is what we will do, and so what I'm going to do now is step outside. I have 13 -- I don't know why I picked 13, but we have 13 copies all of the previous transcripts. Please take your time reviewing them, and just let us know when you are finished and then we will collect all of the paperwork that we submitted to you and the transcripts and we will bring them the next time as well. Any questions before I go? We'll just be outside. Please feel free to call on us. Before we step outside, we also have left here the materials that were returned today as well as the phone records of the flight manifest if you want to take a look at those. (1 the witness, and the court reporter exit the Grand Jury Room.) the witness, and the court reporter enter the Grand Jury Room.) We are back on the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085676 • 6J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 record. I understand that there was a question regarding two of the CDs that were in one of the files. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Special Agent could you just tell the grand jury what those are in response to? A These are in response to the subpoena that was issued to the custodian of records of Bear Sterns and it's basically account statements for Mr. Epstein. Q Okay. And when we come back next time, are you planning on bringing computer equipment that will allow the grand jury to open the CDs that we have? A Yes. We will have a cassette tape for audio tapes. We will have a DVD player. We will have a computer. We will have a TV with a VCR. We will have all kinds of audio videos and electronic equipment for you guys to be able to look at any of this as well as you will see in all the grand jury material that we have collected things that you may be interested in viewing on these visual aids or these audio visual. Q Okay. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085677 • 1 64 Any other questions? 2 A GRAND JUROR: Are we going to get 3 pictures of this table thing instead of 4 bringing them in? 5 A GRAND JUROR: We don't really care. A 6 picture is sufficient. 7 Okay. We will have 8 pictures of the massage tables. Any other 9 questions? Are you all finished for today? 10 A GRAND JUROR: I don't know. Are we? 11 A GRAND JUROR: Yeah, we are. 12 You are finished with 13 me. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. 14 THE WITNESS: Excuse me. Audio visual 15 aids will be provided in the next grand jury 16 session. 17 (Witness was excused.) 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL PriDnP-Tmr qwPuTCE, LLC EFTA00085678 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER , Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. Certified Court Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085679 • 38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 first have them having contact, I believe, they have contact with Mr. Epstein. Q And how old were they during that time frame in early 2004? A Both Jane Doe Numbers Four and Five would have been 17 at that time, and Jane Doe Number Six would have been 16. Q What sexually activity did Jane Does Four and Five engage in with Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Numbers Four and Five took a taxi to Mr. Epstein's house and went upstairs and provided Mr. Epstein a massage. Jane Doe Numbers Four and Five, the sexual contact that took place was or conduct was that Mr. Epstein masturbated in the presence of both Jane Doe Number Four and Jane Doe Number Five. He also instructed Jane Doe Number Four to play with his nipples and rub his chest. Both Jane Doe Numbers Four and Five were paid $200 for this. On a later massage, Jane Doe Number Four had additional sexual activity with Mr. Epstein and Mr. Epstein had instructed or requested Jane Doe Number Four to take off her clothing and wear her underwear, which she complied. During that massage, Jane Doe Number OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085680